F4F | Laurie Ditto and Her Bogus Trips to Heaven

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Welcome to another installment of Fighting for the Faith. My name is Chris Roseborough. I am your servant in Jesus Christ.

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This is the channel that compares what people are saying in the name of God to the Word of God. So have you ever heard anybody say something to the effect of, well, we have to know what's going on in heaven in order to fulfill the

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Lord's prayer on earth as it is in heaven. And therefore that means we need to listen to people who are claiming to go to heaven.

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Yeah, this is a false doctrine extraordinaire. One of the highlights, if you would, or lowlights, you know, one of the highlight lowlights of the false doctrine and apostasy within the new apostolic reformation, case in point, let me whirl up the desktop.

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We're going to head over to the YouTube channel for Destiny Image. Destiny Image is like one of the major publishing houses in the new apostolic reformation.

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And they have a video up by a gal by the name of Lori Ditto, Ditto? And she shares a journey from heaven.

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And we're going to note that on this music stand right there, that ain't a

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Bible that's on there. It seems like, well, she's, well, shilling for her books, selling her stuff.

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And let's listen in as she explains to us about recent trips that she's taken to heaven.

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And we're going to test this against the word of God. And as a bonus, you're going to get a teaching from 1

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Corinthians chapters 11 and 12 regarding the so -called super apostles.

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Have you ever heard of them? And in the process of hearing about the super apostles and how

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Paul shows them to be the wolves that they are, he's also going to describe an actual experience he had going to heaven.

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And what Paul says in scripture that contradicts this lady's claims, which makes it clear that what she's saying, if she had truly been to heaven, she wouldn't be allowed to tell.

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You'll get the idea. So let's listen to Lori Ditto from Destiny Image.

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And by the way, if this doesn't prove to you, throw all of your Destiny Image books away. They are leading you astray.

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Then I don't know what does, but let's, let's take a look. Let me tell you something about heaven. So I've been to heaven multiple times.

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No you haven't. That does not make me special. No, this is a humble break, right?

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It only makes me responsible. Yeah. Okay. And God, when he brings me to heaven, he wants me to learn something from heaven to bring back.

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Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. But if we don't know what's happening in heaven, how can we implement that here?

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Utter nonsense. Utter nonsense. Okay. A complete twisting of Christ's prayer that he taught us to pray.

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Our father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name, thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

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So what is God's will for us? Our repentance and our obedience. Our trust in Christ for the forgiveness of our sins, bearing fruit and keeping with repentance.

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And so I would just point this out. It is the year 2021 and we are rapidly approaching, you know, the 2000 year anniversary of Christ's death on the cross and resurrection and ascension.

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Now, we don't know the exact date, but it's kind of in the general 2030s that we should expect to see that.

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But that being the case, the church has done perfectly well for two millennia having no clue what's going on in heaven, except for the tiny little bit in scripture that's written for us.

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So your claim that, oh, well, God, how are we supposed to implement what's in heaven? Unless well, you know,

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Laurie Ditto ascends to heaven and brings us back the secret knowledge that we can't find in our

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Bible. This is absurd. And we're kind of way off course right now. Yeah, I would agree.

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You are way, way off course with this teaching. So we really need to bring heaven and the ways of heaven back to earth.

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Then repent of your sin, your idolatry, your false doctrine, your false visions, your false prophecies.

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Start there. So I'd like to tell you about a day that I got there. I call this the parade.

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Really? You do? No, no, we got a side angle here. No, that doesn't look like a Bible to me. So I got there.

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They were having a parade and everybody knew me and everyone's going to know you when you get there. Sometimes you want to go where everybody knows your name.

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We're all related in heaven. Of course. And you know what tribe you came from. So when

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I got there, all the people who knew me were like, Laurie's here, Laurie's here. Now the people in heaven fly.

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They fly standing up. You come off the ground. This is ridiculous.

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Six inches, eight inches, 10 inches. Fulfillment of prophecy, by the way, we'll throw this in as a bonus.

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Always second Timothy, right? Second Timothy four. I charge you, young pastor Timothy, in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who's to judge the living and the dead and by his appearing in his kingdom.

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Preach the word. What are we supposed to be hearing in church? Well, it's the word of God.

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In fact, this is what Paul says. He says that second

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Timothy three, 10, you, however, have followed my teaching, my conduct, my aim in life, my faith, my patience, my love, my steadfastness, my persecutions, my sufferings that happened to me at Antioch, Iconium, Lystra, with which persecutions

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I endured, yet from them all the Lord rescued me. Indeed, all who desire to live a godly life in Christ will be persecuted while evil people and imposters will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.

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As for you, continue in what you've learned and have firmly believed, knowing from whom you learned it, how from childhood you've been acquainted with the sacred writings, grammata, right?

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Which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All scripture, scripture here, graphe, the writings, the holy writings, it's breathed out by God and is profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training and righteousness so that the man of God may be complete and equipped for every, all good works, every one of them.

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So I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who's to judge the living and the dead and by his appearing in his kingdom to what?

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Preach the word. Is this woman in this church preaching the word?

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No, she's not. In fact, the category of what she's preaching is also listed in this prophecy.

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Preach the word, be ready in season and out of season, reprove, rebuke and exhort with complete patience and teaching.

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And here's the prophecy that Lori Ditto is fulfilling, for the time is coming when people will not endorse sound doctrine or teaching, but having itching ears, they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions and they will turn away from listening to the truth.

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Is the Bible being preached there? No. And they will wander off into myths. And what is

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Lori Ditto preaching here? Pure, unadulterated, wacker doodle mythology, all right?

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That's what she's preaching here. You come up off the ground depending on your brightness and how do you get bright?

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So you're not in competition with me, you're in competition with yourself. You get bright based on your love and obedience to Jesus Christ.

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And didn't he say, if you love me, obey me. Yeah, total convoluted mixing of the categories of law and gospel.

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So you know, your brightness in heaven is based on your obedience, says which biblical text again,

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Lori? I'm not sure. So your love, your obedience to Jesus, your trust in God makes you not only bright, but it also lets you come up off the ground so you can fly.

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Well, I believe I can fly. I believe I can touch the sky.

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If only I'm obedient. I'm still alive on the earth, so I can't fly in heaven yet.

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So the rocks moved me. Now everything is alive in heaven. Everything. And so the rocks just moved me forward. And I got to the front of the parade and I looked down at.

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Yeah, this is the parade from the loony bin. The road. It was really remarkable. It was gold, but it wasn't like gold that we have.

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I remember always thinking that it would just be big bricks of gold, but that's not it at all. It's gold, but it has like waves, like ocean waves moving.

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Waves of bricky gold. In this gold. It's remarkable. And why should

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I believe you, lady? You clearly don't know how to properly distinguish between law and gospel. It's beautiful and stunning and it's mesmerizing.

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And my friends there had to keep telling me, pay attention, because I wasn't there just to look at this golden road.

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Yeah, you're going to note that this is from a church, a harvest church. You know, apparently this is on the bad end of the harvest.

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They're harvesting the chaff here. I noticed there was a man on my left and I felt something from him

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I've never felt in heaven before. I felt regret. I thought, huh, that's so strange.

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Lori, pay attention. Oh, yeah, yeah. And I looked up and I saw these liquid drops of love.

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They look like little sequins spinning. Was there a glory portal too?

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You know? Yeah. Okay. Like a firework. You know how you can have a sparkler?

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Yeah, yeah. You know how those little things? You know, in decades past, if somebody spoke like this, they would end up, you know, in a padded cell.

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And they shouldn't. They're like that. But they were on a mission and they would come and they would get you. Each one knew where it was going, who it was going to, and some got me.

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And when they got me, you start giggling. Now, I have young grandchildren, and when you chase them, they giggle.

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That's what I was doing when these little things got a hold of me. They were designed to let me know how special I am.

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Hmm. Yeah. I wish I could have liquid love hit me and make me giggle and make me feel special.

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How important and cherished, loved and needed I am.

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Oh, I love those little things. You know, Scripture says, God so loved the world that he sent his only begotten

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Son that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life. It's the cross that shows me that God loves me.

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And rightly so, even though I'm a sinner. So what do we make of stuff like this?

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I mean, these these stories are now a dime a dozen. And the thing that's different about Lori is she doesn't have crazy pink hair like Kat Kerr.

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But the reality is, is that she's just as dangerous as she is, maybe a little bit more because she seems like, you know, somewhat sober minded, but a little way off.

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Well, it's in this context, and we'll take a look at Scripture on this. All right. So if you're not familiar with what was happening in the

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Church of Corinth, the Church of Corinth was like the quintessential screwed up church. All right. In First Corinthians, we learned that there was a fellow who was sleeping with his father's wife.

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And the Church of Corinth was OK with that. Paul had to say, no, no, no, that's not that's not going to work out.

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You're going to need to put the guy out of fellowship and call him to repentance. And then and then, well, you know, they were they were abusing the spiritual gifts that the

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Lord had given them. And the rich in the Church of Corinth were keeping the poor and the slave class from having the

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Lord's Supper by gobbling up all the elements. Yeah, it's kind of a mess. Well, in Second Corinthians, we learned that that, well, they had succumbed to the let's let's just say the the profiteering of the so -called super apostles and the super apostles came in.

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And these were guys who were really skilled at rhetoric. I mean, in the ancient days, I mean, they didn't have television, they didn't have

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Netflix or Hulu or anything like this. And so, you know, how how was one entertained?

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Well, by people who were skilled in rhetoric and with their speech and the way that they would orate, they could take you to the highest heights of emotion and then bring you down, down, down, down to the lowest pits of despair, get you weeping.

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You would just hang on every word that they would say. And so these these skilled orators would come in.

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And here's the thing. The Apostle Paul, according to church history, he was not exactly good to look at. You know, he was kind of short, scrawny, hooked nose, maybe even cockeyed.

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And he wasn't really that skilled of an orator. OK. And so the super apostles came in to the

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Church of Corinth and charged top dollar for their work, by the way, top dollar. And and and they they basically besmirched the

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Apostle Paul and accused him of of nefariousness due to the fact that he never charged them for his for his preaching and his teaching.

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You see that Apostle Paul. I mean, the reason he didn't charge you the high exorbitant rates that we do is because he's well, you know, he just doesn't have it.

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OK. And so the Apostle Paul just decides that he's going to demonstrate how foolish the church at Corinth is in listening to these so -called super apostles by engaging in some foolishness himself and and in a way that really makes the point saliently.

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And it begins here in Second Corinthians 11, where he begins to do that. And then 12, it continues with it.

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But I want you to see it in its context so that you can see, because trips to heaven, it's mentioned by the

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Apostle Paul, who legitimately had an experience taken up to the third heaven. And so here's what

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Paul says in Second Corinthians 11, 11, 1, I wish you would bear with me in a little foolishness.

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So he's warning him now, I'm going to be foolish for a point. So do bear with me. I feel a divine jealousy for you since I betrothed you to one husband to present you as a pure virgin to Christ.

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But I'm afraid that as the serpent deceived Eve by his cunning, your thoughts are going to be led astray from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ.

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So his concern here is that they're being deceived just like Eve was. And that's not a good thing. That's a bad thing.

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And you're going to see what he really believes regarding the so -called super apostles very shortly. Then he goes on.

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If someone comes and then proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough.

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And this is not to commend them. This is to condemn them. Different Jesus, different spirit, different gospel.

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Those can't save you. They damn you. Right? So indeed, he says, I consider that I am not in the least inferior to these super apostles.

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Even if I am unskilled in speaking, I'm not so in knowledge.

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Indeed, in every way we have made this plain to you in all things. Or did

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I commit a sin in humbling myself so that you might be exalted because I preach

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God's gospel to you free of charge? Now, granted, I robbed other churches by accepting support from them in order to serve you.

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And when I was with you and I was in need, I didn't burden anyone for the brothers who came from Macedonia.

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They supplied my need. So I refrained and I will refrain from burdening you in any way.

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As the truth of Christ is in me, this boasting of mine will not be silenced in the regions of Achaia.

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And why? Because I do not love you. Well, God knows that I do love you. So, you know, he's having to defend himself very carefully and skillfully, by the way, against the claims of the super apostles that Paul, the reason he didn't charge was because of something wrong with him.

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And so he is, you know, I didn't do you any wrong by not charging you. It's kind of weird that he has to defend himself against that kind of slander.

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And then he goes on. So and what I am doing, I will continue to do in order to undermine the claim of those who would like to claim that in their boasted mission, they work on the same terms that we do for such men.

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And here's what the super apostles are. They are false apostles. They are deceitful workmen and they are disguising themselves as apostles of Christ, which, by the way, is the entire

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New Apostolic Reformation. I'm just saying. All right. And so no wonder even

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Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it's no surprise if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness.

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Their end will correspond to their deeds. So I repeat, let no one think me foolish.

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Now he's going to he's going to dive headlong into full foolishness and he's warning them.

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I'm behaving like a fool on purpose in order to show you how foolish you've been to listen to these guys.

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So I repeat, let no one think of me foolish. But even if you do accept me as a fool so that I, too, may boast a little.

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So what I'm saying with this boastful confidence, I say not as the Lord would, but I'm saying this as a fool.

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Since many boast according to the flesh, well, I'll boast, too. All right. For you gladly bear with fools.

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And that's what the super apostles all you being wise yourselves for you bear it.

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If someone makes slaves of you or devours you or takes advantage of you or puts on airs or strikes you in the face.

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And these are the behaviors of the super apostles. They make slaves of you. They devour you talking about taking your money.

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They take advantage of you. They put on airs. They even strike you in the face. See, I'm better than you are.

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Right. But Paul says, well, to my shame, I must say we were too weak for that.

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But whatever anyone else dares to boast of, I'm speaking as a fool. I also dare to boast of that.

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Are the super apostles Hebrews? So am I. Are they Israelites?

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So am I. Are they the offspring of Abraham? So am I. Are they servants of Christ?

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And now he really gets into it. I'm a better one. Now I'm talking like a madman.

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And listen to what he boasts with far greater labors, far more imprisonments, with countless beatings and often near death.

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Five times I received at the hands of the Jews, the 40 lashes, less one. Three times

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I was beaten with rods. Once I was stoned. Three times I was shipwrecked. A night and a day

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I was adrift at sea on frequent journeys in danger from rivers, danger from robbers, dangers from my own people.

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Danger from Gentiles, danger in the city, danger in the wilderness, danger at sea, danger from false brothers in toil and in hardship through many a sleepless night in hunger and thirst, often without food, in cold and exposure.

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And apart from from other things, there is the daily pressure on me of my anxiety for all the churches.

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Who's weak and I'm not weak. Who's made to fall and I'm not indignant. Well, that's quite the list of boast about, don't you think is the exact opposite of the prosperity preachers.

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So if I must boast, I will boast of the things that show my weakness. The God and father of our

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Lord Jesus, he who is blessed forever knows that I am not lying at Damascus. The governor under King Eratos was guarding the city of Damascus in order to seize me.

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But I was let down in a basket through a window and a wall and I escaped his hands.

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So if I must go on boasting, though there is nothing to be gained by it,

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I will go on to visions in Revelation. Paul absolutely had these for real. I, I know a man now he's talking about himself in third person here, but he's going to slip into the first person.

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You can see it. I know a man in Christ Jesus who 14 years ago was caught up to the third heaven.

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Now, if you're wondering what the third heaven is, a good way to think of it this way is that scripture describes heavens, plural, and, and when we talk about the heavens, the sky where the birds live, that's the first heaven.

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Space where the planets and the stars live, that's the second heaven. Third heaven is where the

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Lord lives. That's where the throne of God is and the angels are. That's the third heaven. That's what he's referring to. So, so I know a man in Christ who 14 years ago was caught up to the third heaven, whether in the body or out of the body,

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I don't know. God knows. He doesn't even know how to describe it. And I know that this man was caught up into paradise, whether in the body or out of the body,

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I don't know. God knows. And he heard things that cannot be told, which man may not utter.

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And here in the Greek, uh, ha -uk -ek -zon -anthro -po -la -lay -sai, and, uh, and that's right here, by the way.

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This part in the Greek, you could translate this mankind. It's not saying a man or human, uh, a, just me can't say it, but which a, which mankind may not utter.

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He heard things that cannot be told. And you're going to know what Paul saw in heaven. He wasn't permitted to speak about it or even utter it.

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In fact, he was right on the line, even mentioning the fact that this had happened, but he didn't cross it.

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So, he heard things that cannot be told, which man may not utter. On behalf of this man,

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I will boast, but on my own behalf, I will not boast except of my weakness. Though if I should wish to boast,

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I would not be a fool for I would be speaking the truth, but I refrain from it so that no one may think more of me than he sees in me or hears from me.

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So, to keep me from becoming conceited because of the surpassing greatness of the revelation, a thorn was given me in the flesh, a messenger of Satan to harass me, to keep me from becoming conceited.

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Three times I pleaded with the Lord about this, that it should leave me, but he said, my grace is sufficient for you and my power is made perfect in weakness.

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So, you'll note what Paul saw, what he saw in heaven, he was not permitted to utter and man is not permitted to utter these things.

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What he saw and heard, he couldn't say and mankind cannot say. So, why should we believe, yeah,

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Lori Ditto, right? Because these things that she's uttering are complete nonsense to begin with.

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And number two, if she truly has been to heaven, she wouldn't be allowed to utter what she heard and saw.

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Paul wasn't. And so, this is running completely contrary to scripture. This is extra biblical revelation and she's falling into the category of so -called super apostles.

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She's got special revelation. She takes trips to heaven regularly in order to help us so that we can know how to bring heaven to earth.

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This is utter nonsense, utter nonsense. And it runs exactly counter to what scripture says there in 2

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Corinthians 12. And as much as she's humble bragging, she's still bragging.

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You get the point. Let's, let's listen to this a little bit longer. It's coming and getting me. And if one went to the ground, it jumped back up and it still, it was on a mission to get to who it needed to go to.

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I just kept watching them. And I wonder where that one's going to go. So, how do we bring this liquid love to earth?

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How do we do that? I wonder where that one's going to go. Lori, pay attention. Oh, yeah, yeah.

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And so, marching in this parade, it was a day. The scripture was, this is the day that the

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Lord has made. Let us rejoice and be glad in it. And God was having a parade for a day.

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This day was a day before I was physically born. But there were people marching in this parade.

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And you knew what they had done for Jesus. Do you know it says, if you give a cold cup of water to someone, the

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Lord will not forget. And what was happening there was we were looking at other people who had done great things for Jesus.

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And you'll be surprised at the greatness. There was a man, he was driving down the road, praying in tongues, noticed somebody had a flat tire.

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And so he stopped. They have flat tires in heaven? What? To change their tire in the love of God.

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The Lord considered that greatness. And the man was... Oh, that was the good work he did.

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He helped somebody on earth by changing their tire. Marching in this parade, getting accolades from the people and from heaven.

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All the glory goes to Christ. All of it. For what he had done to serve

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God on that day. There was another woman, she had baked a cake. When she was on earth, right?

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So cake baking. Really, a cake. You see, she baked this cake for this family who had...

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Do I need any of this to know what God's will is for me as far as the good works that I'm supposed to be doing?

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What is considered good and evil? And what it means to love my neighbor? I don't need any of this. This woman is not helping us understand scripture.

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She's speaking pure mythology. And I would even say this is not indicative of somebody with a sound mind at all.

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And she's not pointing us to scripture. And she shouldn't be preaching in a church anyway. Scripture forbids even what she's doing there.

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So I think you get the point. This is just annoying beyond all reason. So if you know anybody that's thinking, oh man,

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I got to listen to these people who've been going to heaven because we got to get strategies so that we can bring heaven to earth.

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They're deceived. And you know, share this video with them and call them to repentance and point out what it says in 2

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Corinthians 12. Paul actually went to heaven, wasn't even allowed to talk about and utter what it is that he saw and heard.

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That being the case, these people are not bringing us and leading us to Christ. They're pulling us away from God's word to words that are not given by Jesus, doctrines that are not taught in the scriptures.

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And we don't need any of it. Scriptures are sufficient. All scripture is

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God breathed and is profitable for teaching, correcting, rebuking, and training in righteousness so that the man of God may be complete and equipped for every good work.

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We need the word of God. And note again, destiny image is fulfilling the prophecy in 2

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Timothy 4 when people wouldn't endure sound doctrine, but wander off into myths. That's what that was.

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So hopefully you found this helpful. If all the, if so, all the information on how you can share the video is down below in the description.

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And until next time, may God richly bless you in the grace and mercy won by Jesus Christ and his vicarious death on the cross for all of your sins.