WWUTT 2210 Q&A Keeping Our Sanity, Baptists in Presbyterian Churches, Pi in the Bible

Trusting Christ Instead of Being Consumed by the Culture

How do we care about the things that are going on in the culture today and not be consumed by them? Can a Baptist attend a Presbyterian church? And does the Bible air about Pi 3 .14? The answer's when we understand the text.

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Here once again is Pastor Gabe.

Thank you, Becky. You're welcome. Proverbs 2, once again, where we read that Yahweh gives wisdom. From His mouth come knowledge and discernment. He stores up sound wisdom for the upright, a shield to those who walk in integrity, to guard the paths of justice, and He keeps the way of His holy ones.

Then you will understand righteousness and justice and equity, every good track. For wisdom will enter your heart, and knowledge will be pleasant to your soul. Discretion will keep you. Discernment will guard you, to deliver you from the way of evil, from the man who speaks perverse things, from those who forsake the paths of righteousness, to walk in the ways of the darkness, who are glad to do evil, and they rejoice in the perversity of evil, whose paths are crooked and who are devious in their tracks, to deliver you from the strange woman, from the foreign woman who flatters with her words, who forsakes the close companion of her youth and forgets the covenant of her God.

For her house sinks down to death, and her tracks descend to the dead. All who go to her will not return, and they will not reach the paths of life. So that you will walk in the way of good men, and keep to the paths of the righteous.

For the upright will dwell in the land, and the blameless will remain in it. But the wicked will be cut off from the land, and the treacherous will be torn away from it. I would sure like to see that happen after observing the opening ceremonies of the Olympics taking place in Paris, France.

Oh, really? I did not see it.

Please God, drive the wicked from the land. Oh, it was reprehensible. So they had gay men and women, men dressed in drag, that were even imitating the Lord's Supper. Oh, wow. Yeah. So you had drag queens that were sitting there imitating the Lord's Supper as painted by Leonardo da Vinci.

Wow. You know, it's interesting that these wicked people can't ever come up with their own ceremonies. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like they always have to imitate religious symbols and mock them. And the thing they hate the most, of course, namely Christianity.

They're not mocking Islam. They're not mocking Hinduism or Buddhism or anything. It's Christianity. Those Christian symbols. In Paris, France. Yeah. And before the whole world, as you have all nations that are gathered together, which nations are rising up against this reprehensible behavior in their opening ceremonies and things that they're broadcasting on television and saying, this is wicked, this is evil, people.

Yeah. It is mocking God who will not be mocked. And he will pour out his judgment.

Is there anybody, like any countries that are like offended? Not that I've heard yet. Okay. I guess we'll find out.

But I mean, you just think about Because it's worldwide. You think about Paris. Yeah. I mean, Notre Dame is there.

But France is so, like whenever I watch foreign films, if I watch anything that's in French, it's usually really bad. Oh yeah. Like as far as content wise. Yes. And so I can't watch anymore. Right. I haven't even, I want to learn French and hear things in French, but I just, I can't do it.

Yeah. I remember when Annie, does Annie still have an obsession with Paris, like wanting to go to Paris?

It's more of Mariah now. Okay.

Yeah. So our kids, especially a couple of our girls.

Annie kind of wanted to go, but she's kind of let off of that quite a bit.

I made some sort of response to her one time. I hope I didn't squash a dream or anything. Oh no, what'd you say? Well, just talking about wanting to go to Paris and I said, forget it. Oh yeah. I think in my mind I had, I was thinking of finances.

There's no way. Fair enough. There's no way that's going to work. But also just thinking of how depraved the culture is. I mean, I don't want to go on a vacation to New York City either. It's true. It's not just Paris.

It's not just pick and choose. Right. It's, yeah. It's the way things are. But it's so wonderful to hear about how the wisdom of God will protect us from these things. And though we might see this stuff being reprehensible, we're not drawn in by it.

It does repulse us. But instead of just sitting around and groaning about it, which I can have a tendency to do if I'm not careful. Then find those things that are beautiful that God has given to us. All this stuff that happens, like what we saw in the opening ceremonies of the Olympics, mocks God.

It mocks what is beautiful and good. It mocks the family. Yeah. And so instead of being entertained by that, I'm going to turn around and have fun with my wife and kids. Yeah, for sure. They were watching, I saw that they were watching a YouTube video where the guys would do these fun trick games and things like this.

So while they were watching it, I grabbed some of our excess water bottles. Oh, is that why they're all over the house? That's right. Now they're all over the house. And I set up some things to be able to knock them down with balls and stuff like that.

And we did like water bottle bowling. And Bubba got the small basketball. And he threw it toward the bottles where I had them set up like bowling pins and got a strike. Oh, that's awesome. And our nine-year-old was like, how did he do that?

Why does he get the strike? The two-year-old got the strike, but the nine-year-old couldn't get it. Anyway, so you see things like that. Now let's get together and enjoy that which is beautiful. Yes.

And especially be out there sharing the gospel because this wicked world is coming into judgment. It will come into destruction. And the only way that we can be saved from all of this evil nastiness, which will perish.

The only way to be saved from the judgment of God that is coming is to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. Trust in him for your salvation. You know, I hear stories every once in a while from somebody who will say that they had a loved one who got too sucked into the news.

Like you're talking a Christian family that they were probably even regular churchgoers. Okay. And somebody in the family, it's usually the husband. I don't mean to dig on the guys, but it usually is.

Yeah. Gets obsessed with cable news. Yeah. Or something. Any more, it's probably social media. It might be what you're watching on Twitter or Facebook or in, I mean, it could even be. Well, what's that?

What's the message board site that everybody goes to? I can't remember the name of it now. I never use it. I have no idea. Anyway, so you just get sucked into that world and you surround yourself with people who think and believe like you and have the same concerns that you have.

And you fall into the same conspiracy theories. Yeah. And it just feeds it and feeds it and feeds it. And no matter how genuine it was when you got into it. Right. Like all of your views were Christian.

They were right-leaning. They were conservative. But the more you go down that rabbit hole, the more it sucks you into this pessimistic, discouraged grumpiness. Yeah. Groaning about the way things are, being obsessed about things.

You start to suspect everybody else. And no matter how good your intentions were in the beginning, it's not godly. None of this is godly. Yeah. You have isolated yourself from reality, from trusting in God.

And now you just think everything is a conspiracy. And what do we got to do to stop these guys? Yeah. And it can lead to some really, really dark thoughts. Some things that will isolate you from other people and cut relationships out of your life.

It will affect everybody that is around you. Yeah, for sure. Not just you, although it's damaging enough to yourself. So we have to be careful about these things. And hence, God saying to Isaiah in Isaiah chapter 8, Don't call conspiracy all that this people calls conspiracy.

And do not fear what they fear nor be in dread. But the Lord of hosts, Yahweh of hosts in the LSB, Him you shall honor as holy. Let Him be your fear and let Him be your dread. And He will become a sanctuary and a stone of offense and a rock of stumbling to both houses of Israel.

A trap and a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem. And many shall stumble on it. They shall fall and be broken. They shall be snared and taken. So which is it going to be for you? Are you looking to God who saves you and who is sovereign and holds all things that are happening in His hand?

He's in control of all of it. Right. Do you trust Him or will you let the concerns of this world consume you? And then eventually you might even perish in judgment as well. Yeah. Beware of becoming like the thorns in the parable of the sower.

Matthew 13. Oh, yeah. In Mark 3. So the thorns represented the cares and the concerns of the world. And the deceitfulness of riches. But even the anxiety of things that are going on in the world was also represented by the thorns.

So the message of the kingdom falls to the ground. It produces a plant but gets choked out by the thorns. Which, again, represent the deceitfulness of riches and the cares and the anxieties and concerns of this world.

Right. Will that be you? Be careful about that. Be careful about what you are letting get into your head no matter, again, no matter how good your intentions might have been. Yeah. I started from a Christian base point.

Great. Then you have got to keep going back to Christ.

Yeah. You have got to keep grounded in the word. Right. To keep your head on straight and keep your mind from going. I mean, the mind is a crazy thing about how far it can go. I mean, just look around and observe people around you that, you know, the world is depraved.

Or even myself. I mean, I know how obsessed I can get with things. Yeah.

And just sit and dwell on things. Some people might not be aware, you know, like self-aware yet. And so even if they are looking around them, they can see that, oh, man, that person is crazy. You know, like what are they thinking?

I can't even imagine myself. No. No. Your brain is capable of it just like theirs is.

Well, yeah. And you are kind of pointing out the problem there, too. It's like they are looking at everybody else's problems and not realizing your own brain is starting to get sucked into that. Yeah.

And before long, you are going to be as gone as they are. Yep. It's crazy. Get away from the computer. Get away from your smartphone. Spend some time with family. Amen. Spend some time in the Word with the family in the Word.

Your church. Your church. Yes. Hope you have a great church that you can attend. I still get emails every once in a while from folks saying, you know, struggling to find a good church and things like that.

Finding a Church When You Are Baptist but the Best Local Option Is Presbyterian

Just had a great one the other day, and this is a question that we've responded to before, about how the only reformed gospel preaching church that this woman could find in her area was the Presbyterian church.

Oh, okay. But she's a Baptist by conviction. Oh, yeah. So, can I attend that church? In fact, let me go ahead and bring up her question here. This was on social media. It's not in my email inbox. But, hey, so this is the Friday edition of the broadcast.

Yes. We take questions from the listeners, and you can submit your questions to whenweunderstandthetext at gmail .com or as this person did. Well, yeah, the voicemail. But as this person did DM to me, I won't always remember that they're here.

Like, I'll respond to them in the week, and if I don't copy them and throw them in. And paste, yeah. Yeah, then I'm not going to remember to do this on Friday. Yeah. But this is from Aviana, and she said, Pastor Gabe, I have a question pertaining to your post about pedo-baptism.

So, I had made some posts on X earlier this week about infant baptism versus credo-baptism. Okay. And if you miss some of those posts, we'll hold tight, because tomorrow, on the special edition of the broadcast, it's going to be the audio version of the stuff that I had discussed this week on social media.

Oh, nice. So, hang tight. You can either go to the blog and read it, PastorGabe .com, or the audio version will be on the special edition tomorrow. So, anyway, Aviana, seeing these posts that I had made, she said, I've been looking for a church in my area, and I found one that is an Orthodox Presbyterian church.

The church identifies as Reformed, and from what I've been told, the only big difference that I might encounter in that church is the belief in pedo-baptism. So far, everything else I've seen about the church seems promising.

Would you consider it a good idea to attend a church like this as someone who does not come from that kind of background or believe in pedo-baptism? Now, we've answered questions like this before. Yes.

Like those who have written in and have said, I attend a Presbyterian church. My convictions are Baptist. Should I be looking for something else? And so I responded to her and said, appreciate your question, and it all depends on what this church requires and what you, in your conscience, are comfortable with.

So you should be upfront about any convictions when you talk with their elders. Say that you're Baptist by conviction. Yes. I don't believe in infant baptism. I don't know if Aviana is married, but if she gets married and has kids, would she say to them, I would not baptize my kids here?

So my children would not be baptized. I love being able to worship with you, but just my convictions don't go that way. I love that you preach the gospel, and that's why I'm here. Yeah. So you want to, you say that you want to be there because they preach the gospel.

There's not another church that's like it that you have found. And most likely, you're not going to be allowed to become a member. So we even have one or two people in our own congregation at a Reformed Baptist church that are pedo-Baptist by their convictions.

They're still welcome to be with us and worship and be involved in what we do, eat with us at our potluck. We don't even withhold the Lord's Supper from them. But they can't be members, and they can't vote.

Right. Because then that changes the policy of the church. And what if we got enough people in there that were pedo-Baptists that took the church in that direction? Right. That's true. So you can't become a member and become a voting member, but you can still fellowship with us.

We don't see it as a reason to have to break fellowship. Right. So hopefully they won't keep you from the Lord's table just because you have these Baptist convictions. But if they do, then it might be better for you to try and find a more solid Baptist church,.

If at all possible. And maybe since they're so solid, they can suggest another one in the area. They usually know. That's right.

They usually know. Yeah. They're usually familiar with, hey, we do know of a Reformed Baptist church over here. Because when, especially when I was in Kansas, I made it a point to know where the Presbyterian churches were, especially, that were the most aligned with us in our soteriology, in our theological views and things like that.

So that I could, a person who comes who wants the Reformed teaching, but they are pedo-Baptists in their conviction, I could tell them, this church might be where you want to go. Yeah. Instead of with us.

I wish that you would be Baptist. But that's all right. If you feel like that you are more aligned with this church in your convictions, then that's where I would recommend that you go. And maybe they do know that.

Yeah. So they can give you that kind of recommendation as well.

Yeah. So hopefully she'll be able to get plugged in somewhere, and that'll cut the time down as far as finding a church, that is. Right.

If she needs to go to a different one. You've exhausted your resources to try to find something. Maybe this church knows. Yeah. And can direct you that way. For sure. Now, we were talking about some political things a moment ago, and I meant to transition from that into this first question, because this is actually left over from last week.

I didn't get the chance to get to this question. So here's going to be a total subject change. We're going back to the political stuff. This question comes from Gary, and he says, Pastor Gabe, I have been a loyal listener of When We Understand the Text for approximately eight years, and I enjoy listening in podcast format.

I have especially enjoyed your Q &As over the years and rarely ever miss one. My brother introduced me to your podcast, and you have featured his questions on your Q &A more than once over the last few years.

You know, sometimes that's because I actually can't remember all the names of everybody. Like, you could ask a question next week, and I probably won't remember that it was your question I answered the week before.

Unless you put in the email. Yes. You've already answered this question. Yeah, if you say that, then I'm probably going to grab it. But I wonder how many times listeners have heard, like, the name John or whatever.

I mean, we've had multiple Johns. Oh, of course. Somebody hears John, boy, Gabe really likes John's questions. Yeah. Well, if John asks good questions, I'm going to use his question. Yeah. So anyway, Gary goes on.

My question is centered on how to address the liberal theology of a whole division of Christianity that is basically full of hatred of Donald Trump. And they come up with everything and anything to paint other Christians in a bad light if they support Republicans or Donald Trump.

I'm constantly hammered with, oh, you MAGA people or you Trump supporter or whatever. And I'm going, you really have no idea who I am. Yeah. I have never been praising of Donald Trump, except when he has done some policy things that are worth saying, thank you, Mr. President.

But otherwise, I've been very critical of Trump. Oh, yeah. Even long before he was the leading guy running for president back in 2015. But anyway, yeah. So there is this whole group of people that just paints all Christians in a negative light because now they have this perspective of Christianity supports Donald Trump.

So then Gary goes on. More specifically, they are upset about the attention that Trump is getting as a result of his assassination attempt without getting into the whole conversation about divine providence or if it was a miracle and looking at the big picture.

I want to share the viewpoint of someone who has that liberal theology and his post on social media. I'm including screenshots below the post in question of a man by the name of Reverend Benjamin Kramer.

I can't remember if it's pronounced Kramer or Kramer, but we're going to say Kramer for the sake of not sounding like I'm talking about a coffee, a coffee additive. I would love to hear your take on this person's twisting of what many Christians have said about the assassination attempt.

I listened to several other Christian podcasts as well as John MacArthur, and I haven't heard anyone use some of these terms mentioned, such as God's chosen one. So I feel like he is using things that a very small percentage of people have said and tried to apply those to an entire segment of conservative Christianity.

So here's the post from Benjamin Kramer. And by the way, Kramer, in case you're not familiar with him, he's not that well known, but he does have a pretty substantial media presence on social media. Andy Stanley, for example, has retweeted Benjamin Kramer.

So if Stanley likes Kramer, yeah. Yeah, you know where that's going. Gives you kind of an idea. Yeah. He's mostly liberal. He believes that women can be pastors. Okay. Which he's a Wesleyan minister, incidentally.

Okay, they believe that anyway. Yeah, that's common in their denomination. He's critical of conservative Christianity. He's even critical of Christians who say that marriage must be between a man and a woman.

And he opposes patriarchy, twists scripture to fit a social justice hermeneutic that just kind of gives you an idea of Benjamin Kramer's theology. So here's the post that he made. He said the following, I used to think taking God's name in vain was just using God as a cuss word.

OMG, et cetera. Right, right. He used to think that's what taking God's name in vain is. Now, before I continue, that is taking God's name in vain. It is. That's not the only way we take God's name in vain.

Right, but what's he getting at? So he says, now I think it looks like a politician and political party using God as a mascot for their own pursuit of power. Yeah. Now, on the one hand, I do agree with that.

Mm-hmm. I think that a lot of Republicans have done that, incidentally. Oh, yeah. And he's not the only one to make this criticism. Even when George W. Bush was running for president back in 2000, even there, you could make the criticism that Bush was just using God's name to gain a certain following or segment of people.

Sure. Yep, I get that. So Kramer goes on, now I think it looks like an entire Christian movement treating a presidential candidate as God's chosen one for the sake of its own pursuit of power. Now, on the one hand, I do see where he identifies a certain group of people as seeing Trump as God's chosen one.

I do get that vibe. Sure, yeah. I mean, you see people that will, they'll post the pictures of, like, Trump sitting at his desk with Jesus over his shoulder holding his pen for him and helping him sign his legislation.

Oh, wow. You've never seen those paintings? No. Yeah, that's right. I've tried to avoid a lot. So, yeah, there's definitely that. And as we had discussed last week, there does seem to be this religious fervor that exists among, you know, kind of the MAGA segment, especially after, just as Gary pointed out, after the assassination attempt, it just became even more crazy.

We played that clip from Marjorie Taylor Greene who said that there was an angel in the American flag and it was divine intervention and all this kind of thing. Yeah, it was by God's providence that Trump was saved from that bullet.

Oh, yeah, for sure. No argument there at all, but the way that people have turned this into some sort of religious moment. Yeah, like he's a holy one. Yeah. So, yeah, God's chosen one? Absolutely. And there is a certain sense in which we recognize that appointed elected officials have been put there by God.

Oh, yeah, for sure. That's Romans 13. That's in the Bible. That's Daniel chapter two. God sets up kings and removes kings. So he's the one that puts these particular people in place. Even the wicked rulers that get raised up and positioned in those places.

Joe Biden has been put there by God. Yep. And Trump being as immoral as he is and even being the quote unquote conservative candidate. Yeah. That's even a judgment on people who claim to be conservative, but really are not.

No, they're not. Yeah. So in that sense, you can interpret God's chosen one that way. Yeah. Just don't interpret it in the way that God, you know, God's chosen one is Christ. He's the anointed one. He's the Messiah.

Not any politician. So then going on, now I think it looks like Christians clamoring to use God's word to sanctify and justify every action of their preferred presidential candidate. That can happen. And again, I've seen that happen going back decades.

Yep. Incidentally, there are people on the left that do the same thing. Uh-huh. They will justify all of Biden's actions with scripture. Biden justified his actions with scripture. He would regularly quote scripture in his speeches.

You don't remember his reference to the palms as the palmist said. Oh, yes. Mm-hmm. Because he couldn't read that the teleprompter said Psalms and not palms. Nope. That was a favorite. I don't remember that one.

That's a favorite one. But I mean, he's even used the Bible to justify his support of the LGBTQ movement. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm not surprised. Now, a guy like Kremer, though, is not going, he's not pointing this criticism at that.

Okay. He's not pointing it at Biden and Kamala. He's pointing it at Trump and Vance. Okay. So this is the Only one direction. Exactly. It's only going one way. Okay. This is the problem with these kinds of criticisms.

I can agree with where you're coming from, but both sides do it. Yep. For sure. So why are you tearing down the one and not the other?

That's a valid question. Is it just because he's trying to make a point on one side or It's because he hates the right. Oh, okay.

He's a liberal. Oh, okay. Fair enough. Because remember, he's critical of Christians even who say that marriage is between a man and a woman. That's true. That's true.

Because if he was just speaking to the Republicans, then there's no need to point out the liberal fault. Kind of like, oh, I like apples. Well, what about oranges? That sort of argument. But at the same time, if he's speaking to everybody about how just the Republicans are doing wrong, then that's different.

Right. I mean, this was the same criticism that I had of Russell Moore and David French when they started to make their transition from, I mean, really being on the right to on the left. Yeah. While showing colors.

That's probably a better way to put it. They were showing their true colors there. Yeah. So it just became entirely critical of Trump and anybody who would support Trump or even vote for Trump. Like your average Christian American that just doesn't want the leftists in power.

Yeah. I remember that. And so what do we got to do? Well, we got to vote for these other guys. I may not agree with everything that they do, but I'm going to vote for them anyway because they're not as bad as these people.

Well, even them, French and Moore and their ilk will criticize anybody that would even cast a vote for Trump at all. So what's your solution then? Yeah. Great question. What is your solution? And you're not going to make any sort of criticisms of the left at all?

Yeah. Then you're just letting them run ramshot over everything when all your criticisms are just of the right because they're not as conservative.

As you think that they should be. Which I'm in agreement with that. Sure, yeah.

But at the same time. I am an equal opportunity critic. Yeah, right. You're both wrong. There you go. It's just one is far more left than the other. I like it. So anyway, Kramer goes on. And now I think it looks like Christians making cheesy paintings and memes of Jesus and angels with their preferred presidential candidate that go viral online, not even trying to be shy about their political idolatry.

Well, once again, both sides do it. I cannot even tell you how many paintings of Obama I saw when Obama became president. Even one that had him made up like Jesus with the halo over him and everything like that.

Yeah, one of the magazines even printed one of this. I can't remember if it was Newsweek or Time. But they were calling Obama a messiah. So you're going to make this criticism of the right but not of the left?

No joke. They both do it. Well, that was before. They've forgotten. Now I think it looks like Christians using God's name to win by any means necessary simply because they hate their enemies so much, taking vengeance, which is supposed to be God's alone, as their own political agenda and imposing their own way in the world.

Listen, it is just fine for you to vote for a candidate because you hate the policies of the other side. Yep. That is a perfectly valid reason. It is. Again, I don't like what has happened to the Republican Party.

The platform that they have embraced is even more liberal than Clinton's platform in the 90s. Right.

And when was the last time that an independent party or one other than the Republican. Iron out my tongue. The Republican or the Democrat has won. How long has it been? Never? I thought there was one.

Like a green... Oh, the Green Party? Yeah, wasn't there a winner from them?

There was Ralph Nader, yeah, of the Green Party. He didn't win anything. No, he didn't win anything. Was there anybody who's won? Millard Fillmore, apparently. Fillmore? Was of the Whig Party. He was the 13th president of the United States.

That's what I was going to say. He's an early guy. Yeah, 1850 to 53. The last president to not be affiliated with either the Democrat or the Republican Party. There you go, folks. So it's happened. It has happened.

Miracles do happen. It's just been forever since it happened. It's been over 150 years ago.

So chances are... We're stuck. We are stuck, yeah.

That's what the chances are. We have what we have. Let me finish what he's got here. Okay, go ahead. Now I think it looks like using God's name to justify the worship of power, I don't even know what that means, the reputation of the church in America will long be damaged by this unrelenting, insistent use of God's name to justify political idolatry.

The reputation of the church in America will long be damaged. Well, the true church will not be. Amen to that, yeah. The gates of hell will not prevail against it. So the true church is still strong, going well, worshiping the true King who is Christ.

There are people who claim to be Christians who are really not, that have gone after things and politicized their ideologies, platformed their candidates to try to do the things that they think want to have happen.

And that's, again, on both sides. Oh yeah, for sure. It's both the Democrats and the Republicans. It's true that the majority of evangelicals will go toward the right. Trump will get most of the evangelical vote.

But remember that Biden, in all of the Roman Catholics that voted for him, got the majority Roman Catholic vote. It's true. Who are also professing Christians, however you regard Roman Catholicism. So there is still a very religious leaning that goes left, though they may have more irreligious people on the left than are on the right.

It's still a problem on both sides.

Why Christians Should Not Be Consumed by Cable News or Social Media

Yeah, for sure. But Biden's not our candidate anymore for Democrats, right? No, he's not.

It's Kamala Harris. Oh, is it Harris? Okay, so it's not officially anybody on the Democrat ticket. Fair enough. Biden gave his endorsement. He's dropped out now. Right. Again, this is like all the stuff that's happened since the last time we have recorded a podcast.

Yeah. Biden's dropped out and he's given his endorsement of the vice president, of course, Kamala Harris. But there is not officially given by the Democrat party that she's our nominee. Okay. They still have the Democrat National Convention coming up.

We still got time. And, you know, the delegates have to recast their votes because Biden already had the delegates. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. So they now have to shift in the direction of Kamala. Okay.

Although it hasn't officially been stated, that's kind of where things stand. Yeah. Okay. That's where it is. So a Marxist. That's interesting. We'll have a Marxist running on the Democrat ticket for president of the United States here in 2024.

This will be interesting. A Marxist versus a Republican who's the Democrat of 30 years ago. Yeah. Who's more liberal, more left than Democrats of 30 years ago. That's where things stand. That's pretty accurate.

But yeah, as we said last week, pray for America. Oh, please do. Do not fret. Trust in God. That's right. I think it would be better economically. Things would certainly feel more comfortable for us and the finances that we have had to wrestle with as a family.

If Trump were president, that would certainly be easier. Yes. But I'm still going to trust God that he knows the outcome. Amen. Whether or not he's using either one of these candidates to bring America back toward him or bring us to judgment.

Yeah. It looks more like the latter than the former. But we can pray for revival in America and still be out there sharing the gospel because transformation in this country is not going to happen. America is not going to be made great again.

Right. Or made great in any fashion. Without Christ. Without the gospel of Christ. Amen. So continue preaching the good news of the kingdom that others may be convicted in heart of their sin and come to faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and live.

And if there's any transformation that will happen in whatever nation you live in, that's how it will happen, through the preaching of the gospel. Yes. This next question comes from Jason in Alexandria, Minnesota.

He says, Have you ever covered the matter of pie and the Bible regarding the bowl slash pool in 1 Kings 7? What? Yes, pie. So do you know the whole controversy? Like P-I-E or P-I? P-I. Okay. Yeah, not P-I-E.