What Does the + in LGBTQ+ Stand for?

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Welcome to Bible Bash, where we aim to equip the saints for the works of ministry by answering the questions you're not allowed to ask.

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We're your hosts, Harrison Kerrig and Pastor Tim Mullett, and today we'll answer the age -old question, what does the plus in LGBTQ plus stand for?

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Now, Tim, as we kick this episode off, what Bible verse do you have to read for us today? Tim Mullett Romans 129 -30 says,

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They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness.

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They are gossips, slanders, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, and disobedient to parents.

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So, I'm thinking of that phrase, inventors of evil, as it relates to this topic.

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Yeah, that really is pretty applicable. So, a big part of why we're doing this episode is this week,

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I had seen on social media, I forget who posted it,

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I'd never heard of the guy before, he was posting a link to an essay that someone had written, essentially, that was posted in a magazine, arguing that it was morally permissible to have relations with animals.

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So, being intimate with animals. Gross. And the paper is obviously arguing that this is okay.

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The guy who posted it, I mean, it was seen by thousands of people, and he's presenting it as a challenging conversation on a topic that most people are too closed off to ever speak about.

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Basically trying to take something that is just so disgusting, so gross, and try and paint it in a light of, hey, we need to, as a cultured society, if you can call it that, as a cultured society, we need to be a people who have these kinds of conversations, because these are the kinds of conversations that are going to move us forward as a society.

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I mean, just totally making a fool of himself, basically.

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And a lot of people really had a lot to say. I guess people just aren't ready to have that conversation quite yet, at least the people who saw it.

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But it had me thinking again on this topic of LGBTQ +, and obviously our society is just so sexually immoral at this point that really most people, when you mention same -sex attraction and stuff like that, most people don't bat an eye at that anymore, because it's so common in our society, unfortunately.

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So you have this LGBTQ, and it's just a common idea that is thrown around these days.

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People identify as one of the letters in LGBTQ, and it's an identity for them, and it's really protected by our government in a lot of ways.

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You're like a protected class if you identify as gay or lesbian, whatever.

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And the thing that's always disturbed me is more and more letters keep getting added onto this thing, and you have this plus that's essentially meant to be a placeholder for the things to come.

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As our society spirals down and down further and further, towards the most ungodly things that you could ever conceive of, you begin to wonder, what are the things that are taboo right now that in five years, in three years, they won't be taboo anymore?

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When you have people starting to write the magazine articles about people trying to justify zoophilia, bestiality is what the

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Bible would call it, bestiality, you can rest assured that in the coming years,

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I understand there's probably a lot of people listening who are thinking, yeah, but obviously they got ratioed on Twitter and everyone was making fun of them, so obviously we don't have to worry about that.

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Well, the thing is, that's exactly what happened with homosexuality. That's exactly what happened with the transgender stuff.

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It's exactly what's going to happen with these other things. So you might not think it's an issue right now, but I guarantee you, unless God performs a miracle, it absolutely will be in the coming years, and probably a lot sooner than you think.

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Tim, you've probably been paying attention to a lot of this stuff more than I have. Is that something that you've seen as well?

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Like, hey, sure, for a while, homosexuality wasn't an issue until all of a sudden it was, and then transgenderism wasn't an issue until all of a sudden it was.

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And so if things keep progressing the way that God has allowed them to progress, it stands to reason that bestiality and other things that we'll get into in this episode, they're not necessarily a huge issue right now, but they will be in the soon coming future.

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Yeah, I mean, you have the slippery slope. No, no, no, Tim, that's a fallacy, remember?

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So, I mean, that's what they said when we were paying attention before, right?

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I mean, it was pretty funny. I mean, immediately we said, hey, if the Obergefell decision happens, and we were saying this way before that, but I mean, if the

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Obergefell decision happens, I mean, the next thing is the transgender stuff. And I mean, it was like clockwork.

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I mean, immediately right when that decision was made, then the entire cultural momentum was all put on the transgender issue from that point on.

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I mean, that was the decisive turning point. But then the thing that was funny about it, I mean, it's not funny, like ha ha funny, but like funny, like interesting, funny, was that right before Obergefell, everyone was saying, hey, you do that.

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This slippery slope is going to lead to the full on transgenderism. And it's like, oh, you're stupid.

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That's so dumb. No one's talking about that. We're only talking about two consenting adults who love each other, who want to get married, you hateful bigot and all that.

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Like no one is talking about transgenderism. That's not what's on the table or whatever. But I mean, it just, you can look at the receipts are there.

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Look at what's happening. And it was, that was exactly what was happening. Right. So, I mean, all these other things are just,

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I mean, there's only a matter of time before we're there. The slippery slope fallacy is, you know, it is what it is, you know?

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So like that's just. Yeah. And it reminds me of a, there's a meme that I saw a lot.

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I mean, this was posted a long time ago, at least in terms of internet years. So, you know, like eight years ago or something like that.

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Back in the dark ages of the internet. I mean, we were practically cavemen back then, you know, and it was basically like a chart or a list or something.

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And it was titled, you know, things that will happen if you, if we legalize gay marriage.

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And, you know, it was like World War III will happen, you know, a worldwide plague, you know, people will try to groom your kids and whatnot.

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And it was meant to be posted as like, you're ridiculous. Right. If you, you know, if you actually think these things, right.

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Like it was making fun of people who were opposed to. Yeah. Making fun of this, the Bruce Lope kind of argument.

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Yeah. Yeah. And then, you know, you fast forward to now and it's like. Check. World War III looks like it is actually about to happen.

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You know, you had, you had your pandemic and COVID. Right. And, and people are obviously trying to groom children and, and deceive them and, you know, ruin their innocence in their lives.

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Yeah. Not of his own volition. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, oh no.

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Okay. So that, yeah, that meme you made making fun of everyone, it was just right. It was the truth actually.

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You know, and, and so you have the, you have these kinds of things, but then why is it, why is it so true though?

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What, you know, people, people want to say, Hey, the slippery slope, it's a fallacy. You know, why has it proven to not be a fallacy up to this point?

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And why, you know, why is it that we can basically count on unless there's widespread repentance in our country, unless people turn to Christ, which can happen.

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I mean, there's already moves to do these things. So like the issue is you look at, you know,

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I just asked a chat GPT. What does the plus stand for? And LGBTQ plus.

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What did chat GPT say? It says in, in LGBTQ plus the plus symbol used is used to represent inclusivity, acknowledging the wide range of diverse sexual orientations, gender identities, and expressions that are not specifically covered by the initial letters

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LGBTQ. Right? So like the idea is they've just told you the game.

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You understand what I'm saying? It says it's used to represent inclusivity, acknowledging the wide range of diverse sexual orientations, gender identities, and expressions, not specifically covered.

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Meaning like this is Pandora's box. It's just, there's no end to it, you know? So like the issue is if you, it doesn't take, so we'll start this way.

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Wisdom is the ability to recognize patterns among other things, right? So wisdom is involves pattern recognition.

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And what you have here is you have a secular morality on sexual ethic ethics that has taken over and is a planting and replacing a biblical ethic.

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So you used to derive your ethics about, you know, sexuality to use that ridiculous term.

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You used to derive that sexual immorality from the Bible, meaning you would look to the Bible to define what sex is, what, what's its purpose, why it's there.

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And then what are deviant or abnormal perversions of it. Right? So you look to the scripture to do that.

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And then there's a logic in the scripture that tells you like what it's for and why these violations are violations in themselves.

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Okay. So, but then once you've chucked that now, what you're, what you're left with is just the secular morality on this, on sexual ethics, right?

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That's what you're left with. So then the issue is that at that point, I mean, like an unbelieving worldview, it doesn't really have the categories that are necessary for morality in general.

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I mean, it's just, you think about it, you're just like random stardust, man. I mean, you're just the product of random time and chance.

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You're just an evolved ape. There's no, there's no grounding for morality in an atheistic worldview.

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I mean, you just exist. You're not accountable to anyone, right? Right. So like the only kind of morality that you can drive a derive is from some sort of, you know, mutual shared agreement that you come to in order to, you know, benefit everyone pragmatically.

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Right. So, I mean, you, you're either adopting some sort of utilitarianism at that point, that's just built on some sort of pragmatic framework or, or just societal consensus.

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But I mean, societal consensus is bankrupt. It's like, what societal consensus do you want? Do you want the cannibal society's morality or do you want, you know, the

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Christian morality or which one do you want? Right. And so like, there, there's no, there's nothing, there's no logical foundation for morality in any of those things really anyways.

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And I mean, and they knew this, I mean, like this is what the evolution is. Like the basis of the whole project is might makes right.

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Right. The survival of the fittest. Like that's so like the issue is there's no grounding for morality in that at all.

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And then what's left is you, like you have atheists who are basically borrowing certain principles from a

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Christian morality. So you take like the Christian morality and you throw out the pieces you don't like, and then you're, you're left with certain principles.

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Hey, like do no harm or something, but it's like, why, why not? It's survival of the fittest, man.

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Why, why shouldn't you do harm? Like who says you shouldn't do harm? Is it objectively, morally wrong to do harm?

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Well, no, it's just, you know, I don't like it or whatever else. And, and, you know, they're all insistent at that point.

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If you ever want to test, you know, test an atheist on this point, you basically just, who is basically just saying,

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Hey, yeah, it's subjective or whatever. Just say, Hey, would it be morally wrong for me to pour a cup of coffee on your head? Yes or no.

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Right. Yeah. And see how that goes. But no, I mean, the issue is there is no grounding anymore.

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And right now it's, it's, I mean, there's some sort of, Hey, maybe it's mean to do harmful things to other people, but then they're in charge of how they're defining harm.

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And so it just evolves and changes. And basically like harm is now hateful, bigots like Christians who don't approve of your morality at that point.

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So basically you just, it's just infinitely malleable. It's just like their world, just like they think they are, right.

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They can just evolve over time. Their morality has evolved over time. And there's no, there's no, there's no breaks to the project.

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I mean, it, it basically, like you have all the logical steps that you need that are present in the system itself to go to this, to, you know, animal love to zoo, zoo, zoophilia.

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I mean, I don't understand where the objective moral grounding is within that worldview.

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Right. So, I mean, like the moment you say, Hey, I am my sexuality, whatever that means.

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Right. So what you're saying at that point when you're saying I am my sexuality, like that's who I am and I'm defining myself.

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So I, I, you know, if a person who is a sodomite is saying I'm a homosexual, if that's what they're saying there, what they're saying is

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I, that's who I am. Right. So my sexuality, like my sexual attraction defines me as a person.

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That's what they're saying. Right. Yeah. And so, and then not only that, you must affirm that my sexual attractions are legitimate and right.

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And fine. Right. And moral. And then you must allow me to redefine marriage in order to make my sexual attractions fit within the confines of marriage and give them legitimacy in that way.

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So whenever you say that, I mean, that's what the, that's what chat GPT is saying, right? They're saying the plus symbols used to represent inclusivity, acknowledging the wide range of diverse sexual orientations.

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So like the issue is, okay, it doesn't take a rocket science to know where this is leading. Where is it leading? It's leading to basically say that whatever deviant perverted sexual attraction you have, the logic says you must be given the ability to define yourself by it, which is why we're all the minor attracted people kind of conversations online are going right.

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So like what logical grounding do you have to say that their sexual attraction is wrong?

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Right. Right. So what, what, what is the grounds there? Like what, what, like what's the difference?

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So if you don't have a standard to judge these things, then it just reduces to whatever

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I feel attracted to. It must be right. And you must affirm it and be inclusive to it and give me the ability to go with it.

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Right. So then like who's to say that my attraction, not, you know, the hypothetical person, what's to say that their attraction to the animal is not wrong.

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What's what's to say that their attraction to children is not wrong. What's to say that their attraction to robots, right.

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Is not wrong. What's to say that it is wrong or it isn't wrong or whatever else.

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Like, who are you to say it's not, you know? So like the issue is the, the logic of the project says whatever

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I'm sexually attracted to, you must affirm and you must praise and you must validate.

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And so it just, it doesn't take rocket science to see, Hey, this is going down a trajectory.

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We see where this is going. There's no internal logic now. Now the only thing that's holding any of it back is the idea of consent, right?

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Sure. Yeah. So like the idea of consent. So, you know, the animal can't consent, the child can't consent, but then like we've done the death blow to that in transgenderism.

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I mean, what do you think? I mean, like, so if, if you are a person who has any kind of impulse whatsoever to say that we need to be logically consistent, you're saying right now that a four year old boy is able to consent to make adult decisions, to transition their gender based on who they identify themselves to be right now.

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Right. Yeah. So you're saying they can do that. Why can't that four year old identify as like a, and you know, the recipient of a minor attracted person's affections, like why can't they make that decision when they can make a decision to, it's even more radical than that.

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Right. So like, so the issue is there's no breaks to this project. There's no logical coherence.

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It's all just a bunch of incoherent mess because it's not based on a foundation, which is why,

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I mean like, you know, the trans exclusionary radical feminist are so at odds with the transgender movement is because you have two worldviews that are not the same and they're not saying the same things and they're at odds with each other.

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Right. And it's not coherent. There's nothing to hold it together because it's not based on logic. So, but then when you accept these, you know, premise one, you are your sexuality.

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Right. And then it's everyone's responsibility then to affirm who you are and praise who you are.

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Well, Hey man, what are you going to say to the polygamist? I'm a polygamist, right? I'm a polygamist.

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I'm a multiple woman, attracted person. Right. So then I guess, who are we to say anything about that?

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Right. Yeah. You know, it's, it's disturbing.

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And I think, you know, James white, he, he mentioned this. I know we talked about this a little bit last week, but and, and discussing his whole breakdown of Zach Lambert stuff, you know, because that, because Zach Lambert is someone who claims to be a

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Christian and, you know, also claims that same sex attraction is perfectly fine.

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I don't, I don't, I guess I don't know exactly where he stands on the transgenderism stuff, but I, I would have to assume that it's probably not a very good stance, whatever it is.

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You know, and something, something James white was bringing up though, which was obvious as you were listening to Zach Lambert, it was so obvious, you know,

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James white was essentially saying, Hey, there's no, you know, like with, with whatever is to come,

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Zach Lambert may not necessarily support whatever it is to come. Who knows?

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You know, we, we don't know. He could be opposed to, you know, the quote unquote, minor attracted person thing.

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He could be opposed to bestiality. We don't know, but what does he have to form an argument against it?

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We have something, we have plenty of stuff, you know, to use to form an argument, an argument against all of those things.

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But what does Zach Lambert have? Because he's already thrown, he's already thrown out the Bible. I mean, he, you know, he's thrown, he's waved away every verse that has anything to say about this topic, you know, claiming that it's not in context or it's, you know, it's talking about you know, it's, it's talking about ritualistic you know what, what's the word, you know, like when you, when you have like women at the temples, you know, that you're supposed to, that you're supposed to be intimate with as a quote unquote form of worship to a pagan

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God, you know, those verses are talking about those things. They're not, they're not talking about just any, any form of homosexuality whatsoever.

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And, and you know, it's just like when you listen to that, when you listen to all the arguments, all

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I can ever think about is like, you have no chance. You are not going to, if you are actually going to be opposed to this, which, you know, personally,

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I think most of the, I think most of the Christians who argue for, who are, who argue right now for the same sex attracted stuff to be allowed, the transgender stuff to be allowed, you know, they, they might claim to be opposed to bestiality, for example, right now, but I guarantee you the moment that it becomes socially acceptable, to, and socially encouraged to protect people who pursue bestiality, they will jump right in line.

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They will. I guarantee you. Yeah. The moment it becomes mainstream and normalized, I mean, there'll be, you know, the first ones jumping in line to go after the next, you know, popular thing.

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Yeah. And, and they'll claim, you know, I've been arguing this for years, you know, and it's like, come on, man, now you have it.

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You love the praise of men. That's it. That's all you want, you know, and, and you're certainly getting it. Congratulations, you know, but so the title of the, the title of the episode is what does the plus and LGBTQ plus stand for?

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So we've, we've talked some about the bestiality stuff. What, what else do you think is coming down the line?

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I mean, there are already, I mean, there's already articles about the minor attracted stuff. So, I mean, that's obviously, I mean, that's there and it's being normalized.

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And I mean, the, the bestiality stuff, I mean, that's, that's obviously upon us too, right?

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Yeah. I mean, that's obviously upon us. I mean, we, you can't worship animals like we do as a society for so long and not blur these lines.

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I mean, there's, I mean, I say, yeah, people, people,

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I mean, they're not necessarily always like the mainstream kind of, you know, communities that you'll hear of all the, all of the time, but there are certainly communities right now that are very large.

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People on Twitter. Yeah. Yeah. Role playing as animals. Yeah. And, and spending thousands of dollars animal costumes and whatnot.

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Well, I mean, they'll have like their animal avatars on Twitter because that's their whole, their whole identity is wrapped up in like pretending that they're a certain cartoon character animal or something like that.

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So, I mean, I mean, this is like, these, these are people that are,

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I mean, it's not a small, small thing. It's not like the weirdos or something out there. This is like a normal thing people are doing right now where they're totally mixed up reality.

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But I mean, certainly, I mean, the AI stuff is right here. I mean, there's already,

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I mean, I've already seen articles about kids preferring to talk to their

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AI friends at school. More than they want to talk to human beings and like teachers who, like, you know, so basically they would rather talk to AI LeBron James than their classmates.

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And they're getting emotionally attached to their AI friends right now online. So, I mean, this is a thing.

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I mean, it's upon us, like all of these things are upon us right now. And there's no logic within the plus.

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I mean, the plus sign provides all the logic you need to say, who are you to say no bigot, right?

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Just, just let them identify how they want to identify their, you know, they're not hurting anyone, you know, all this stuff.

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So, I mean, it's like these things are, they're already upon us. And, you know, people haven't thought through any of the arguments and the same ones that fell for the last one will fall for the next one.

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I mean, there's no stopping it. It basically, it doesn't reduce. This is not the issue is this is not like a logical problem.

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This is a moral problem. So, because they didn't see fit to worship God and like honor him in their thoughts,

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God gave them up to a debased mind to do things that are unfitting, that shouldn't be done. So, what you're talking about is you're talking about Romans one, just playing itself out.

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They're been given over to a mind that doesn't function as a mind. It's not like it's not governed by logic or reason.

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I mean, think about the story of Sodom for a second. And I mean, a lot of people, they don't, they're not actually reading the kind of story that you see there, the kind of things that happened.

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I mean, but one of the most like startling things about the story of Sodom is, that they're literally, you know, they've rejected the natural function of the woman.

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So lot offers his daughters to them or whatever. And they, they've rejected that natural function. They want the angelic guest.

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Right. Yeah. But then they're banging on the door trying to break the door down. The crowd is gathered.

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So in like, if you read the story, I mean, it's pretty stark. I mean, young and old, like all of them are surrounding this house, young and old, all of it.

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Right. Like, that's the level of depravity that you're talking about. Like it's, it's comprehensive. It's all of it. They're surrounding this house and they're trying, they starting to beat down the door and the angels blind them.

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And you would think that at that point, a sane person would give up.

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Right. Hey, all right, guys, let's, let's pack it up, man. We lost this one. You know, we're going to punt on this one, but like,

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I mean, the text literally says that that didn't stop them. They still were calling, you know, they're, they can't even see, and they're still clawing at the door, trying to get these guys.

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Right. So, I mean, that tells you that this, there's something else going on here. There's, I mean, this isn't just a,

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God has given us, given our society over to like stupidity, stupidity, man.

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Like, I mean, we're way past Romans. Yeah. That's what I was thinking. I, you know, I was going to make,

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I was going to make a post about, about this, you know, article arguing that it's morally permissible to, to, you know, be intimate with animals, to commit bestiality.

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And I was, I was looking at Romans one, cause I was like, well, obviously, you know, this is the, this is probably going to be the most concise place to go.

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If I, you know, if I'm going to quote a Bible verse in relation to this article, and I was reading

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Romans one and it's like, man, we're past all this. Like people don't eat.

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People don't, I mean, people just don't, even bat an eye at the, you know, man committing shameful acts with other men, women committing shameful acts with other women, people don't bat an eye at that stuff anymore.

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And, you know, Paul, that's what, you know, Paul chooses to address specifically in the verses.

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Obviously he's addressing a lot, a lot of things beyond that, but then those are the things that he's addressing specifically.

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And it just, I was, I was left a little dumbfounded, just thinking like, man, we are totally, we're past all this.

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We've gone beyond this into, you know, new territories, you know, that, that I'm sure have been explored in the past throughout all of human history.

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You know, I'm sure there's been points where they have been explored, but then to know that my own country is, is past all of these things and, and pursuing whatever is even more vile and more wicked than that.

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And, is dumbfounding, dumbfounding. I mean, it is dumbfounding in basically every way.

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I mean, you know, we're, we're a society right now that is not only, you know, exchange the natural function of a woman for a man burning with lust, you know, for our same gender and all that we're pretending to be opposite genders.

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Right. And not only are we pretending, like, not only are we pretend, like, not only like, there's a Bible, like pro prohibit, uh, quote unquote bestiality.

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Right. So lying with an animal, like you would lie with a woman, not only does the Bible do that, we're pretending to be animals.

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So not only are we, I mean, not only we've, you know, given up on like the natural function of the opposite member of, of our, uh, uh, opposite gender or whatever, we're pretending we're the opposite gender.

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We're pretending we're animals. Right. Uh, there's, we're just, we've lost, we've lost our minds, man.

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I can, every way imaginable. So like, we're, well, you know, Romans one. And I mean, it's, it's, it's obviously the same basic error that's fielding at all.

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We're rejecting God. We're not, we're refusing to honor him as God. We're worshiping and serving the creature rather than the creator.

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And so he's giving us over to madness, but I mean, like the, the issue is, I mean, we're, we're engaging in the most idiotic, stupid things imaginable that are so illogical, man.

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I mean, it's just so ridiculous. So illogical is it's, it's so unscientific. I mean, there are,

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I saw a funny post about, I think it was the Facebook AI or whatever. They, um, trained it in, you know, thousands and thousands of scientific papers or whatever that they did.

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And then they were horrified. They had to shut the thing off because it turned into a hateful bigot or whatever. But like, the thing is we've lost our minds, man.

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Like in every single way imaginable, we've lost our minds. and we, that's funny that the first response went, you know,

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Hey, you know, we're, we've, we've had this thing scanned thousands of, you know, scientific papers and peer reviewed studies and whatnot.

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And it's telling us everything that we disagree with. And the first response is, shut it off, shut it off, shut it off.

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No, but I mean, that's the thing, you know, like the people, I mean, the Bible says this over and over and over again, like they stop their ears to the truth.

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They Nash, their teeth. These are religious responses. I mean, when Jesus said things that they didn't want to hear, I mean, they would tear the road robes.

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I mean, they would literally tear their robes. I mean, they're literally like sticking their fingers in the ears, you know, doing the equivalent of a little kid saying, no,

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I don't want to hear it. You know, no, no, no, no, right. I mean, that's what we're doing. We've stopped our ears to the truth.

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And that's what Jesus says, like the one who has ears to hear, let him hear. We can't hear any more how stupid we are and how insane we are.

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So that's how far gone we are as a society. I mean, so much so that, I mean, we've, well, we killed, you know, 60 million babies, 70 million babies at this point.

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And, we, you know, there's, the only reason

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God has had any mercy on us whatsoever is according to, you know, his grace and his mercy and his kindness.

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you know, you can imagine something similar to Sodom and Gomorrah happening where God, you know,

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Abraham's begging him, you know, if you find 10 righteous there, will you not destroy it for the presence of 10? Right. And something like that has to be going on with America where God's refusing to act utterly wipe us off the face of the map because of the presence of a small minority of Christians here.

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But, you know, and his steadfast love to his people, but it's, it's insane.

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Sure. It certainly is, as you know, as you're thinking about these things, one of the silver linings of this is it is amazing to think, hey, this is how far we've gone as a society.

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And then to think, yeah, God has shown God, I mean, God, God should wipe our nation off the face of the earth.

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He would, he would be totally right in doing that. And it's, it's amazing to think that he hasn't done that yet.

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And, you know, the, uh, the kind of patience and mercy that that requires is something that none of us will ever be able to show.

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None of us will ever be able to show mercy the way that God has towards our nation, you know, and, and so, so the silver lining to that being, it should point us, it should point us back to that mercy and, and just simply wondering how, how, you know, can a

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God be this merciful that he allows this to continue so that, you know, so that, um, his chosen might come to salvation and not perish, you know, and his, and his wrath.

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Right. So, but okay, I think that's a good place for us to wrap up the conversation on.

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And, you know, a big part, a big part of this episode is just to say, Hey, look, if you think it stops at transgenderism, then, then you're woefully ignorant to history.

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And, and, um, you know, I, I don't think it's just bestiality.

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I don't think it's just pedophilia. You know, I think, you know, I've, we, you mentioned some of these things earlier,

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Tim, but I really do think it is like, yeah, AI it's robot, you know, robots, whatever, you know, whatever term we come up with for that, uh, robotophilia or, you know, um, robophilia.

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Um, you know, I, I think necrophilia will also be one that comes along, especially

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I've seen, I've seen a lot of articles where doctors are suggesting, Hey, we need to take, you know, women who are brain dead, but their bodies are still functional.

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We need to use them as incubators for, uh, pregnant, you know, for pregnancies for babies.

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And, you know, if you're willing, if you're willing to, uh, defile people like that, you are certainly willing to go further with it once it's socially acceptable.

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Um, so I, I think you've got a lot of these things coming down the line and, you know, the answer is not try to appease the, try to appease the things that are okay right now and hope that that's good enough, uh, because it'll never be good enough.

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You know, it'll never be good enough. I mean, we'll have people that are exactly like the guy, uh, the people in Sodom and Gomorrah, I mean, you know, blinded by the angelic light that they certainly don't understand.

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How can this even be happening? And yet it does not deter them and trying to satisfy their sexual deviancy.

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And so, so we, as Christians need to be aware of these things and we need to be fighting, fighting against these things, speaking out against these things, um, unashamedly, you know, and with boldness, um, preaching the gospel, calling people to repentance, knowing that that is the only way out of this, out of the muck and the mire and the filth that people are, uh, jumping into gladly and celebrating and, and trying to get others to also pursue as well.

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