Theology Doesnt Seem to Matter Much Anymore, Eh Mohler?

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Southern Seminary, Ed Litton, and the Trinity Question

I don't know. But anyway, somebody said this was juicy and this has to do with the new president of the Southern Baptist Convention's questionable orthodoxy on the Trinity apparently a question was asked at the convention about this very thing and Al Mohler didn't really seem to want to answer it and Neither really did Ed.

So I don't really know I heard this was interesting. I was given the time stamp. So hopefully this is interesting and I'll give you my take as I normally do.

To a question for dr. Moeller.

Dr. Moeller you have been in an incredible influence upon me and you have taught us for so many years that theology matters. I have a question regarding the Educational Content that we are giving to graduates of Southern Seminary.

My question to you is Does Southern Seminary teach that the Father Son and Holy Spirit? Are parts of God. The reason why I ask that is because when I went on Ed Litton's website for his church that is in the first paragraph on the doctrine of God and he got two degrees from Southern Seminary.

So far as I know and I cannot speak To my brother the newly elected soon-to-be president of the Southern Baptist Convention but Southern Seminary cannot claim him as an alumnus I'm absolutely certain that he will want to answer that question.

Yes, absolutely certain. He's faithful. Okay, so.

Okay, I just want to make sure that was a full answer so That's interesting. That is a very interesting response from Al Moeller. So He kind of ducks. He doesn't really answer the person who sent me this clip was exactly right.

He kind of gloms on to the fact that maybe there was some miscommunication about where he graduated. But that really wasn't the question. The question wasn't really did he graduate from Southern Seminary?

Although that was you know, I guess a mistake. I don't know allegedly I like to use the word allegedly these days. Allegedly that he didn't go there or he was alleging that he did. But that's not really the important part.

Sure, that was how the question was couched, but the important part is the fact that what he just described there is in unorthodox view of the Trinity. That's not correct. That's that's that's that's what's what's the heresy called partialism where it's like there's three parts of God and one part is the the father the other part is is is the Holy Spirit.

The other part is the Sun and then when you put them together. Then it creates God sort of like Voltron. You know what I mean? Like every every part of Voltron isn't Voltron like they've got one parts the hand one part, you know.

And they put them together then it's Voltron. That's not how it is. Each person of the Trinity is fully God, right? So That's unorthodox. What I found interesting there though is Al Moller's response where he says I'm Absolutely, it was absolutely confident that he's faithful and what's interesting about that is like, okay I'm sure maybe you are.

I mean, I don't know but but that doesn't really answer the question because based on this view of the Trinity How could you be absolutely confident that he's faithful? Now, I guess he could be assuming that it's a mistake.

But that's a pretty big mistake, especially for a doctrinal statement and it's not like these doctrinal statements are. Typically very long like I haven't been to Ed Litton's website or his church's website.

But if it's like a normal church, usually they're pretty basic. You know what I mean? I remember when I was starting my church plant. We had a meeting and we discussed each point and there was like I don't know 10 15 points something like that that we put on our website or statement of faith and Even though it wasn't that much like we were very careful to word them the right way.

To scripture reference them the right way and we had some debate on how we would word things and stuff like that we it wasn't just willy-nilly and So I have to assume that Ed Litton's church Wasn't taking it willy-nilly either and so that wording of the parts of God.

You know like Voltron That was probably done very intentionally and carefully and you know, I'm assuming it wasn't unilateral I'm assuming there was meetings and all this kind of stuff. Have you ever been to a meeting where they're changing the bylaws and it takes a lot of effort.

But Al Mohler though, he's he's Absolutely sure that he's faithful. How? Well, he's Southern Baptist. I mean he signed the Baptist faith and message I'm sure that's probably what he would what he would what he would reference which is of course nonsense.

But yeah, you can't speak ill of a Southern Baptist I mean obvious every Southern Baptist is faithful unless you know, they're a fundamentalist then they're not anyway, let's continue to be.

The Meaning of Faithfulness and the Limits of Institutional Loyalty

Excuse me, excuse me. Excuse me. I was thinking of the Master of Divinity. He does have a doctor of ministry degree from Southern Seminary. I just about Failed in that massively. He is a doctoral graduate of Southern Seminary.

I still stand by my statement. I'm sure he want to make that very clear. I'm not sure what's on his statement. I'm sure he's faithful.

This is amazing. Like this is the mentality that has to be destroyed guys. Like I'm not sure what's on his statement, but I'm sure he's faithful. But what if there's something unfaithful on his statement?

How can you be sure if you're not sure what's on his statement and the reality is this dude just read it to you. So it's like now, you know, right like now I'm telling you what is on his statement and you're still saying well I don't know what's on his statement even as I'm telling you so I guess you don't believe me fine.

You don't have to believe everything you hear. But then if now there's there's got to be some element of doubt here I mean what you have to assume you don't think he would be making it up. But he's sure so he's not sure what's on his statement is faithful, but he's sure he's faithful.

That's very strange. And what's interesting here? Is that that Al Mueller interrupted J .D. Greer to make sure to get out? Well, I guess he did go to Southern. Yeah, I guess he did get a doctorate at Southern.

So so this dude was right Al was wrong. But he's definitely not wrong about his faithfulness. Even though he doesn't know what he says on his website, which this guy just told him and all of that this is this mentality this kind of good old boys club where you circle the wagons and and you do you defend a Republican or you defend a Democrat no matter what is this has to be destroyed.

Like that like this crew here. They don't care what each other they will defend each other no matter what that's what this crew is All about and that that mentality has to be destroyed. It has to be that was a very interest man.

I'm so glad dude, whoever I know who sent this to me, but I'm not gonna name you Thank you for this is this was way more interesting than you let on. You can see Danny Aiken in the back he's like he's like, yeah, of course, he's totally faithful.

I mean, I don't know. I don't know what he says either, but he's definitely faithful. Okay, if I failed in that massively I almost forgot that he was a Southern, you know, he came into Southern I massive failure, but definitely still faithful.

Look at look at Danny Aiken's little face here.

He is a doctoral graduate of Southern Seminary. I still stand by my statement. I'm sure he won't to make that very clear. I'm not sure what's on his statement. I'm sure he's faithful. Oh.

Yes, amen. I definitely definitely faithful. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I don't know what he said. Totally totally definitely said the right thing. I don't know what he said, but he said the right thing. I mean, we know that.

That actually is why he did couch it that way because he asked specifically about a Southern Seminary graduate Who at least presumably has an unorthodox view of the Trinity on his website? So it was a question about Southern Seminary, but JD Greer's got a you know, he's got a muscle in there.

I got a circling wagon, you know, maybe I'm paying a wagon gonna paint it good. Bragging we're gonna paint that wood. That's a Simpsons song. That's weird. Here's the man himself. Everyone is thrilled.

He's about to respond to the question on the Trinity has I'm assuming he's pulling up his website here. So he can tell you what's on there and he can explain it and all of that. Maybe it's not maybe he it's it's not like Voltron.

Maybe this guy Misunderstood what I was saying.

It is in your veins. And we thank you for your humble service at every opportunity That the Lord God has given you to service. You're a gift from God to us and to the greater world of those Disciples who want to grow nearer to the heart of our Savior through all of your work.

All of your life you have served us well and the scripture says give honor where honor is due. And sir, you are doing great.

That can't be it can it my dear brother. That can't be it can it if I may just speak back.

I Want to congratulate you publicly upon your election as president of the Southern Baptist. It is the great great joy of my life to be entrusted with the stewardship of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary.

And I am committed to you and to this institution and to all Southern Baptists for the length of my days. God bless you all. Thank you.

As noted the time allotted for Southern Seminary Southern that can't be real.

Is that it okay, so Let's let's let's let's rewind this and and and just kind of think this through and I'm breaking out my George Gammon there. Let's let's think this through. So a man gets up and says hey Al Muller, you know, you're the president of the Southern Seminary like like what's being taught there?

Because you know the new president of the Southern Baptist Convention Apparently thinks God is like Voltron. So like is that what you're teaching at Southern Seminary and then I'm all okay. So that's the first thing so now a very serious charge has been brought up right and he and he said it's on his website.

It's like I'm not just saying that he says this it's on his website. So then I'm all er says he didn't go to Southern Seminary plus, you know, I'll let him speak for himself. I know that he's faithful.

Then he's about to speak for himself and then Al Muller interrupts him and says whoa, whoa, hold on hold on home. He did go to Southern Seminary. So that was a lot the lie detector test determined. That was a lot more than one time.

Then he says I'm sure Ed Linton's gonna want to answer for himself, but I know I don't know what's on his website. But I know he's faithful. Yeah, this is a serious charge. This is a charge of heresy because God's not like Voltron.

So then Ed Linton the man himself Stands up and then all he says is Al Muller. You're the greatest guy around and this guy this guy's just been accused of believing that God is sort of like Voltron where you've got the Holy Spirit is The arm and then Jesus is the is the other arm and then I guess God the Father would be the rest of it because you Know he's the father.

So I guess you know, he's got to take care of the rest of the of the body of God that's you know, of course because God doesn't have a body like men, but whatever. This is my example. Each is a part of God so together.

They're not totally God, but when they put them together each is a part of God that creates God that's heresy, obviously. And so he's just been accused of that on his website. The guy wasn't rude. He wasn't and he just was like dude like this is on his website.

Like is this what they're teaching at Southern Seminary? Then JD Greer butts in and says we'll keep your questions about Southern Seminary. Well, this is about Southern Seminary. He went there and then Ed Linton stands up and just says and all he says is Al you're the greatest guy ever.

Like you're so faithful and you're the you're the best and and then Al Muller says well, you're the best at it. You know back at you man. No, you're the best you rock and you know that and then that's it.

Except that's not it because then a few hours later. That part was scrubbed from his website. The part where he teaches that God is essentially like Voltron you got each part and they come together and they create Voltron.

He scrubbed it from the website. He took it off the statement of faith and he changed it to an orthodox statement of faith. So what are we to make of this I mean Either he somehow just saw the light within a couple hours that he's been teaching a heretical doctrine for his entire life and then and After he gets called in it.

He doesn't say anything about it. And then an hour later. He changes his mind it's not he's now totally Orthodox or He didn't know that that was unorthodox. He just you know, he has a doctorate but he didn't know.

Which that doesn't say much for Southern. But even so like even if he did change his mind in the in that three hours like is he able to just Unilaterally change his church's statement of faith at will.

Whatever he wants to do. He can just change it and it's down in three hours. Is it like that doesn't seem like a very good process or procedure for a church, but you know, what do I know? I'm just a layman.

Anyway, you slice it guys. This is not this is not good. He didn't know or he made a mistake or he didn't put that much effort and thought and time and care into the statement of faith like Okay. I mean people make mistakes, but this is the president of the Southern Baptist Convention.

I Just anyway, you slice this guys. This is not good and I think that that that that an organization that will defend this and pretend or pretend like it didn't happen is insane. That's insane. Why would you want to be a part of that?

Yesterday on Reform Jellicle, Matt was saying how he was thinking about his advice for leaving the SBC at this point, and at the time I was kind of squished about that. I said I would leave, but I didn't say you should leave, like I wouldn't try to convince you to leave, but I don't know about that anymore.

I don't know about that. I think Matt was right. I think Matt was right. I don't think you should be unequally yoked like this, because Al Mohler might not care if there's a heretical doctrine of the Trinity on the Southern Baptist Convention president's church website.

He might not care, because he's got that secret knowledge of it. He's totally faithful. But you should care, because you don't have that secret knowledge that Al Mohler has that can tell that someone's faithful even as they have unfaithful, unorthodox statements of faith on their church websites.

You know, as long as the guy's willing to stand up in the next minute and say, what a great guy Al Mohler is, he'll look the other way. I've got some words for what was going on there with that, you're a great guy, no, you're a great guy kind of thing, but being a Christian man, I can't say them.

Anyway, I hope you found this video helpful. There's gonna be one more to come. I hope you find that one hilarious. God bless.