Open Air Theology with special guest: Andrew Rappaport
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Open Air Theology with special guest: Andrew Rappaport
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- What are you doing? You never let a cigar that way you use a wooden edge
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- Preserve the flavor you see but the worst curse would come upon the one who seduced him
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- Whose head would be crushed? by the seed of the woman and The punishment was too severe
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- What's wrong with you people are you ready to get back to work with pleasure something up grandma
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- What is this about? I choose to believe the
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- Bible if it's a reliable collection of historical documents written down by eyewitnesses During the lifetime of other eyewitnesses there are 14 most supernatural events that took place in fulfillment of specific prophecy
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- They claim that their writings are divine rather than human in order But because of his own purpose and grace
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- Which he gave us in Christ Jesus before the ages began
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- I don't know why you're clapping. I'm talking about you. I didn't come here to get a man's
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- I didn't come here to be applauded I'm talking about you Hello.
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- Hello. Hello. Welcome to open -air theology. It's a great blessing to see everyone here tonight
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- We'll see how tonight goes. We got some we got some hoodlums on here tonight However before before we begin
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- I do want to just give a huge shout out and We'll put this on here real fast
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- Thank you for striving for eternity for helping hope Get your head out of that box Thank you to striving for eternity for helping
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- It'd be a great blessing for you to do that and on that note without my introduction because I'll introduce myself later
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- I'll pass the mic down here to one of our special guests that we have here tonight Who me brother, yeah, go ahead.
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- Oh, this is a happy from coming to you live from Weezer, Idaho, and I'm the host of R &B studios and Yeah, and I'm gonna pass it
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- How you do it I'm gonna pass it to this person over here who doesn't exist I Don't exist or what you're just gonna leave that out there.
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- Oh, well Cody Joe Joe webbing. You don't exist You're a I generated.
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- All right Call it out
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- I Guess the thing is, you know the argument that I guess he was making is that ethnic
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- Jewish people don't exist So therefore I'm not really here But I am
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- I am Andrew rap report from striving fraternity ministries Do a couple podcasts
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- Andrew Rappert's rap report and Apologetics live which we do on on these two channels as well
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- Just had a fun debate What two nights ago on whether ghosts are formal human beings or if they're only demonic?
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- It's actually a really respectful debate. Would you agree Tom you you saw it? Yeah, I thought it was very well done
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- As far as the debate goes It was interesting interesting stuff
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- I'll say yeah. Yeah Not something I think about often.
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- I don't really know. Okay, the only time I think of ghosts being former human beings is in Hollywood Not in the
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- Bible just that was my view Yeah to come up with they can't what they came up with was was pretty interesting
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- I matter of fact, I would disagree with both of them. So On the whole ghost thing, so as a matter of fact one of my my comments was boo
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- As a third debater and you just and we could add a three -way debate that would have been great that would have been good
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- Well, so that's that's Andrew Rappaport down there. My name is Tom Shepherd I'm a co -host of open air theology with Braden Patterson and also the new co -host of striving for eternity
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- Apologetics live we go on on Thursdays. I don't know which one is it is a striving for eternity or well, you
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- You can you can get to it from striving for you get everything that we do there
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- But the direct link is apologetics live comm that's where people can watch it.
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- They could join the show You know watch previous shows Yeah, I mean
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- Nicholas. I like that, right? Yeah, so it's pretty awesome to actually have you and then every anybody who's watching on striving for eternity right now or even if none
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- Or shoot Braden is your is is the reform ex -war man on it's on there.
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- Yeah, it's on there I mean, so if you're streaming in one of those other places if you would
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- Andrew has been kind enough to To help us out. We're trying to get more subscriber to the open air theology
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- Podcast or and actually it's gonna become We need to do that Andrew. We need to hook up and Figure out when we're gonna in the works in the works
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- Work on that. Yep. Yeah. Yes, we do. So let me pass it over to my I can
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- I have the same problem with haps There we go. Yeah Yeah, so my name is Braden Patterson, I am the pastor of grace
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- Bible Church here in Moorpark, California We meet on Sundays at 1030 if you live in Ventura County area or somewhere nearby
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- Be a great blessing for you to join us on Sunday tomorrow Even that will be in James chapter 1 verses 2 through 7, so it'd be a great great blessing to count all things joy
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- Blessing to be a part of open air theology. I think we have a great show tonight before We talk about anything else.
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- Let me put this on there and block out haps his face because we need to block his face out Anyway, yeah Hey So this book right here
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- Talking about plugs you guys should go and pre -order this book. It's called resist tyrants.
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- Obey God. It's a It's a book about John Knox. It's written by a brother in Christ named
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- Jacob Tanner Looks like it's going to be a really really great book. I'm excited to get my hands on it
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- Definitely go check that out. You can go to founders org and pre -order it there so go go check that book out if you if you like church history and want some insights into the life of John Knox and Now Jacob's gonna be on next week as well, right?
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- He is. Yeah, so we'll be able to interview him about that book next week So don't miss out on that.
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- That'll be great. I'm excited On John Knox Hmm, but we we're just talking we had we had we were
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- Behind the scenes about to go live and we started talking about haunted house stuff Tom you said that you don't believe in ghosts at all.
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- Is that right? No, not at all Okay, hold on. Let's you're gonna need to define what you mean by ghost then
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- Do you believe in spirits? Do do I so do you believe in things like angels?
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- I do Yeah, okay, so now now we're getting to Define what a ghost is, right?
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- I knew I knew Andrew Rappaport was gonna be pressing me on this now I'm being drilled and I didn't even know we were gonna be talking about.
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- I didn't know either Because house down here below me says that he lit or that he's doing this show tonight
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- This is haunted. It used to be owned by This is haunted it used to be owned by the whole town knows all right
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- It's haunted I saw my gnome right here and when I was doing my show and I threw coins down and I went up to go grab something all of a sudden
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- It was right over here. I was like Did I do that? I don't know if I did it or not, but So to answer to answer
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- Andrew's question, yeah, I of course I would believe in angels I do think that they there are ministering angels that that serve serve us in some way and I think that They probably present themselves in a way that we wouldn't recognize them as angels
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- What's the scripture of the passage that talks about you know that you're entertaining angels unawares
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- Hebrews, yep. I don't know the exact Chapter and verse but Hebrews Well, you you you want to know you want to know when you don't know this is this is if you ever listen to Ray Comfort, this is what he does when he doesn't know the verse that's in Hebrew You'll hear him do it when he'll know the book and I was like, oh that's in Hebrew.
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- Yeah And People just move on like they it's it's really fun
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- I think you think did I just not hear it right and yet he's purposely mumbling like, you know, it is but yeah, it was
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- Yeah, so yeah so as far as but it's actually you know when to actually think that there are ghost
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- Dead people, you know, like the sixth sense type of stuff the movie. I see dead people.
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- No, I I I don't I don't believe in That so let me ask you this if somebody says they saw a ghost
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- Would you say that it there's a potential of it being a demon that they saw I'm gonna say no you didn't
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- You don't think it could be demonic I you know, I I just can't
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- I can't even conceive of there being a a ghost in the room like a a and actually thinking that there is
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- Like something moving around you'd find it hard to believe that a demon could be in a room
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- Tom has a whole bunch of difficult difficult questions for us So I think I think really what is happening Braden said well to prevent that I'm gonna he's gonna do a latent flowers like like latent flowers when we were at the
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- Calvinist conference He came to breakfast instead of us asking him a bunch of questions
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- He just decided to turn his sights on something that you know to get everyone else Here's my answer
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- Hey demon, I gotta say about that Well We do have a good show tonight
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- Tom has some more AI generated questions This is okay, let me ask this question is
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- AI Demonic. Ooh, that's a good question. It was the image that we gave power to or whatever in Revelation.
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- Yeah No AI is AI is Definitely going to always have a bias
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- Okay, because someone programmed it someone gave it Rules, I mean, here's the set of things for you to do right?
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- So yeah, it's it's going to always have a bias it's gonna be hard to Unless they're going to just let
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- You know, okay. Here it is. We're gonna whatever you asked for go grab it and but once they start saying, okay We can't talk politics.
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- We can't talk this can't it once they decide to put any kind of filters on there. Those filters are biased
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- Not only that but I think the more you use it the same way, you know Oh, it's it's funny My wife will be looking up stuff on you know to buy on Amazon or whatever and then the next thing, you know
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- I'll get these ads on Facebook for the exact same thing. She's Looking for because of the what do they call it the cookies or whatever and so I'm getting all these in the same way
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- I think that chat GPT or anything like that you ask questions and stuff like that For example, it knows that I'll ask questions regarding 1689
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- London Baptist Confession of Faith And so the other day true story the other day The other day
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- I asked that GPT if In one sentence, what would or in one word?
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- What would you say? That would that would disprove dispensationalism
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- No, the answer according to chat GPT was divided Maybe is rightly dividing the
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- Word of God it does You don't know it's so funny because actually
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- Ryan didn't actually ask something very similar you know if you could if you can identify what theological system would be the the best one or the most accurate and And in two words, it said
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- Presbyterian And I asked the exact same thing on Twitter, which was a reply and said 1689
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- London Baptist Confession of Faith So it's it's geared toward what you use it for Right and give you answers what you know what you want to use it for seems to be
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- Divided well We have AI generated questions tonight we do are these questions from a demon or not
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- Your demons are real dude. All right, I agree with you. Yeah, right there with you. Yeah, it's just Tom that doesn't agree
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- I mean, I haven't seen any Keep evangelizing go to go to a really bad neighborhood
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- I mean, I've seen some Tom. I've seen some Have you have you you know seen who's in the
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- White House? Just say I mean I have I mean Joe Biden is president Is a pretty demonic
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- He might be yeah, that was Queen Elizabeth I Hear all the conspiracies.
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- I know no no and all in all seriousness, you know, I've seen some pretty evil stuff
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- I've seen some I've seen some some Manifestations of evil from people
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- Vicious Look like they were possessed type of thing don't talk about me in that way.
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- I wouldn't do that And all right. So here's a question. Yeah, if you could sit down with any biblical figure
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- For an hour of conversation Who would it be and why are you asking me or everybody?
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- No, I'm asking everyone but it was your question. You were gonna ask us so I figured I'd ask it of you first Okay, so to be nice and take the hot spot off you right now.
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- That is fantastic You know what, you know what so I was thinking about this and I'll and I'll answer it real quick I would
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- So yeah besides Jesus Michelle was talking about Jesus Besides Jesus because Jesus would be my answer.
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- Yeah. Yeah, but that's the Sunday school answer. Come on, man Yeah, so no really honestly Jonah, I would
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- I would want to talk with him I want to know what it would be like, you know
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- What just everything how how everything worked out for him? How he saw the grace of God how he ran away from God how he was in the belly of the fish
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- I would I'd really like to talk to him about that. What was it like? Going out in preaching against Nineveh to repent
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- Definitely would would want to talk with Jonah. Mm -hmm. That would be cool. What about you guys?
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- Oh well Joel Webben, you know because he's the fourth person in the Trinity, you know
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- He wrote the Bible So far Trying to be serious and you leave it to have so you had to throw it to have said there you go in the trash
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- Honestly, I would Honestly, I'd want to hear by the way Joe Webben is very thankful that you called him part of you know, biblical
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- You know, he's a fourth person in the Trinity. I can't you know, I Mean of course, why wouldn't
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- I Joseph Smith already has that spot? Thank you very much Am I wrong does he not basically say that yeah
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- There was a BYU professor. I want to say and I quote if Jesus is the door
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- Joseph Smith is the door hinge. Ooh, we Does is it not
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- Trinity and Joseph Smith who? Mormons would think judge us Yeah Yeah, that's another that is another one that no one there's another quote
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- I can't remember what prophet said it but or what figure but No one can go to heaven without the permission
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- And Job went and Joe Webben Angela You just have you know, we keep trying to steer this in a good direction educational direction
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- So I I would you know to be honest like I look at every
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- Person that's in the Bible as a character in the Bible, you know and so I would really want to hear from one of the eyewitnesses to the feeding of the 5 ,000
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- You know and and just sit there and ask like what was I mean? Was it baked fish was it raw fish?
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- I mean was I mean just I'd have just so many questions, you know Did it come down cooked or not, you know, it was a poached salmon
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- Well, no, I mean, you know I mean, I mean, what was that like?
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- I mean what was I mean, what was that experience like watching? The Son of God and the father just fill up these baskets, you know
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- You know, it's funny because John MacArthur was was asked the question one time He was talking about how when how when
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- Peter jumped off the boat After he had betrayed him and he was running towards Jesus and John said
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- I think that's the Lord You know He jumps off the boat and he swims out there and he goes, you know And Jesus was over there making breakfast.
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- He goes, you know how Jesus makes breakfast. Yeah breakfast I Mean that John Bell was a
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- John MacArthur show, but it was true. It's a I mean you think about he's cooking up fish and everything and breakfast
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- Okay, so how would you explain the gospel in a single sentence to someone who has never heard of Christ I Would have to have a lot of commas on that one, yeah
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- So, you know a lot of us can go to First Corinthians 15 3 & 4 and summarize it
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- But after yeah, I think oh I Think that it's gonna take a lot longer than one sentence to actually communicate and to make to make a person wise into salvation
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- I think there's gonna be a lot more than just one sentence Well, see I think Jesse Heller had my verse there right there first Corinthians 521
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- He who knew no sin became sin that you may become the righteousness of God done one sentence
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- Well, I mean, but that does that does that show you but you ask this question sure
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- Like I said, I like you said you you would have to unpack that I Mean if I'm gonna if I'm not gonna have that one
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- Then I'll just go with it's appointed unto man wants to die and then the judgment. Yeah But again, does that?
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- Asking the questions in that one sentence does that communicate is there enough there to communicate somebody to where they're gonna be wise into Salvation to where they can
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- Understand their condition their their their heart condition the need for a substitute
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- I think it would be very hard to do in one sentence. Could I just say go read the Bible and that's my single sentence
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- Go read the Bible Yeah So, I guess there is the question can it be done can a person be made wise unto salvation
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- Without understanding certain things Yes Yeah, they could do that, right?
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- You know, let me say it this way There's people who say well you have to you you can't be saved without understanding the
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- Trinity. I'll disagree I would disagree. I was saved Believing Jesus was
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- God But I didn't Understand the Trinity. I never heard the word before right?
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- I actually didn't hear the word for years after so But I but I believe Jesus was
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- God Couldn't explain how Jesus could be God on the cross and yet The father was controlling fit like I couldn't explain that but I hadn't thought it through enough
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- Right. I would say that somebody can't deny the Trinity though. Correct Have an understanding
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- Exactly. So like that's where like the theme on the cross probably couldn't talk about in full detail
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- The the working the inner working of the Trinity and how all that works out Well, if he was being the crucible if he's being crucified next to Jesus and you're asking him questions
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- I'm sure you'd be like, yeah, there's only one God you'd be like, yep Yeah, okay Exactly.
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- It would be like that Also, you know, you know like when a gospel presentation is made
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- It says that like Lydia has said that she was a devout worshiper temple worshiper
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- Basically, and then God had to open up her heart to understand the gospel, you know so but I heard this right here, man,
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- I I just looked it up real fast and You know just I saw this and it's one sentence, you know
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- It says the God who made us sent his son Jesus to live a perfect life
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- Die in our place and rise again so that we could be forgiven of our sins and know
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- God perfectly forever through faith in him I like that Yeah I'm almost thinking
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- I would may maybe I think maybe quoting a verse from Romans.
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- I might do like Romans 5 518 or Romans 6 23 Romans 6 23 is pretty dang good for communicating the gospel in some degree
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- You can say for the wages of sin is death But the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our
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- Lord. So repent and believe in him. Yeah, also If you go to where's it acts?
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- I think Jesus said it the best and And not not acts Luke 24
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- Is that it and he opened up their minds to understand the scriptures and said to them? Thus it is written that the
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- Christ should suffer and on the third day rise from the dead and that repentance for the forgiveness of sins Should be proclaimed in his name to all nations beginning with Jerusalem.
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- Yeah, that's a perfect one -liner from our King right there But I think all of us would also agree here that nobody here would just give them give a one -line
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- Sentence. Okay, this is it and walk away I mean, obviously you would you would dive deeper into conversation talk about who
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- Jesus was Well, if you have a chance if you have a chance, but if you're doing open -air, oh sure
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- That's why is doing open -air evangelism. You have to be ready for quick gospel
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- Presentations that we drink you we train them, you know, we call it stoplight preaching. Yeah while they're sitting at a red light
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- Can you get a gospel message and you got 30 seconds? Can you do it? And we there's a reason for training that Yeah, because when you're doing open -air and and when
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- I would do open -air in New York It's it's a little bit different because you get it large crowds. You get people that are always taking video
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- I've I found I have found myself on a bunch of atheists, you know blog sites
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- The gospel in New York and that's why you know, I don't whatever I'm talking about Like if we're talking evolution and I'm debunking evolution
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- But I see someone put a camera and they start recording. I just like look into the camera share the gospel really quick like Mid -sentence,
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- I'll just go because I know they're gonna put that online I just want the gospel there, right?
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- And yes, that's a really good point to Andrew I mean and it's it's actually true if anybody's actually done open -air preaching
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- I think everybody here has you know, and you're at a stoplight you have you know Three minutes to get the gospel out three minutes.
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- Where are you living man? Well, I mean three minutes roughly yeah right in Fredericksburg we have about three minutes
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- Yeah, I mean, but you have you know, even with people walking by, you know, you'll have 75 yards
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- They're coming they could probably hear and you have You know, you have a very short time to be able to communicate the gospel
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- So I hear exactly what you're saying and you're doing it on the fly and then you're also looping it Because those people are gone and now you got to start all over.
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- Okay, so Tom do you ever get that? I know a bad way to say this
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- But do you ever get bored hearing yourself saying the same like because you're saying in a loop It's like when
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- I'm doing open -air and I'm up there for like three hours There are certain things I am set. I've said like three dozen times like I'll recite that at least three dozen times, you know, and you feel awkward
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- But you have to realize that the audience that heard it once isn't there anymore
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- And yeah, you're saying it again to the new brand new audience audience So yeah, but it does feel weird because you just said it five minutes ago
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- No, I'm repeating myself and I'm like, oh my gosh, okay, and I'm sure my wife is like you just went over that Well, you know, it's just like, you know
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- I've been with some people that just get up and and start reading scripture and everything you know as the cars are driving by and everything like that and and Then I get the mic, you know, it's just like for instance, you know, like like we were just saying, you know get given the gospel the gospel the gospel and it just it just so I like when you you're really relying on the
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- Holy Spirit to you know, really I know a lot of people don't believe in like an unction like what evangelists get you know, like just this function to to preach and and know who to preach to and in all this type of stuff, but it it's
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- It it just comes natural I think for some people, you know And it just doesn't matter if you're stream fishing pond fishing lake fishing deep -sea fishing
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- It might be all different, but it's like I said at the conference the same real same rod
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- Yeah, you know same gospel Michelle said yeah,
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- I was gonna ask you to put that up again. Yeah, so it should be up right now Utterly As fast as possible and not only that Not only to get to the cross but to stay there to stay at the cross, you know
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- Let's not get distracted and pulled away by meaningless arguments that aren't gonna make any difference in the world
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- Let's stick with Christ and him crucified Melissa keep put
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- Melissa's Owens comment back up there she says Short response and then you just okay short response to the gospel is also
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- Good in dire situations say Say someone in an accident or something.
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- Now, here's the thing Part of this and I want to expand on this because part of this is in Preparation.
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- Hmm. You know, are you prepared? For a situation like that.
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- Are you thinking how can I transition to the gospel? I Remember seeing a car accident and I watched it happen.
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- I pulled over I checked to make sure the person was okay and I sat there knowing
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- I wanted to share the gospel, but I was like, okay How do I transition from what just happened the person's all shaken up?
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- Now that would have been a wasted opportunity had I not gone home and thought about it And the next time
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- I saw an accident I was prepared with four or five different ways to transition So as soon as I got over I made sure the person was okay, you're safe Yes, you know and they're there you can see it visibly up I was like, you know, man, you you could have lost your life there in a split second
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- She's like, I know like everything just happened. So quickly. I said, you know, our life is that short?
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- I mean we could we could just be gone that quickly and you know, most people don't think what's gonna happen after they die
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- Yeah, no I was prepared for that because I because I didn't have an answer the first time
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- I thought about it So if I ever was in that situation, I would have an answer and it's used that maybe three times since then
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- Don't don't tell nobody but definitely when I was working as a firefighter, I had a lot of conversations with people in the back of the ambulance and Or on scenes or anything like that one thing
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- I I found was very successful is in time of Distress almost no one will say no to a prayer
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- When you pray you can say whatever you want No one's gonna interrupt you and gospel right in the prayer preach the gospel right in a prayer to people love it
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- And so I do that. I did that frequently with people. I did it. I did it frequently
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- Not just prayer, but man it was there was a lot of really good serious serious calls that It was pretty neat.
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- It was a Grace, isn't it? Amazing how God works in those those? Yeah events to where he he puts some of those things to make you realize.
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- Oh, wait a listen I'm not in control of my life. Yeah, I have seen didn't we
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- I had this I was down in Florida and This pastor one of one of the attendees of his church
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- She was for like 30 years a secretary of this very very wealthy
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- Jewish guy That he owned like in Orlando. He owns most of the hotels in Orlando.
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- Mm -hmm. Okay that whole area. He's got like Like dozens and dozens if not a hundred hotels right, and so This this pastor got an opportunity to have a meeting with him and he really wanted to share the gospel
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- So the church had a guy that does Jewish ministry so he brought that guy and Purpose was the two of them were gonna meet to share the gospel with them and and since I happen to be in town
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- He's like, hey, do you want to tag along? Okay, right so it was it was really funny because I'm sitting quiet because I'm just a tag -along and The pastor starts talking and this guy just shuts him down The Jewish evangelist, you know starts talking shuts him down now.
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- I'm used to seeing that because I grew up Jewish I mean, I know how my dad is, you know, he's he's
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- Well to do and and so I just know the behavior I know that you know And so I just took a totally different tack with them turns out that he actually knows who my father is
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- He's my father's on the other side of the state But he knows of my father and so that made an instant connection
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- We started talking so I was able to talk to him But then like you said we go to leave and I could tell he's just he's he wants the conversation to end
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- He wants it. He's like, hey, I gave you the time. Hey, that's nice. It's time for you to leave Yeah, and as we get up and leave
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- I just turned to it and I just said hey you mind if we pray for you? Mmm, and you're right. He's like he wanted he just he wanted the gospel conversation to end
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- Yeah, but he's like sure that would be nice. Would you I'm telling you? Level move on anybody that it works and it's sincere to you like and seriously,
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- I mean you Lord, I pray so -and -so that you would bless them Lord that you would look over them May they turn and keep their eyes upon you
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- Dying for their sins rising from the great like and you're just preaching this to oh, yeah Ministry tool
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- They're not cheap, but a friend of mine in New York. He's not in New York now. I think he's in Ohio He would make a thing called the prayer stand
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- And you could go look it up you know, maybe I'll look it up and I could show you in and I could share the the picture, but basically what he does is he would set up in New York this prayer stand and I Would it was really amazing because I would be doing open -air and watching and so many people
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- Would come up to him To you know just to be able to you know, sit there and They seek it my people yeah, let me they try to share this and I'll show you what the what it looks like, but what what
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- What he would do is he'd have this this prayer stand that he would set up and that's sort of if you can see in The picture there.
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- I'm just gonna add that There you go. So it's a little bit small, but that's that's basically what it looks like If I can
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- I can make it bigger now Okay, but it basically he would set it up and it's it just has this big prayer thing that sticks up So everyone sees it has this little carousel with that has you could put your tracks in and it's it's it's weather protected and that the big red thing at the bottom is just to block the wind and You'd lock it down and the neat thing with it is
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- Everyone would come up to him and ask for prayer Probably speak to more people than I did doing open -air where I'm just, you know speaking out
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- But he has always feel coming up and it's like they're just sharing all their different needs He's he shares the gospel gives them a track praise the gospel to them and and they're coming up to him
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- Yeah, I mean Tom when you do open -air, how many people are just coming up because they they want to talk to you
- 35:31
- So yeah, so that matter of fact that wouldn't even be the the point So what we do is we're getting the gospel out in the open air
- 35:39
- Brayden is gonna come with us and we actually have something similar to the Prayer stand there a whiteboard that actually says are you going to heaven and we'll put the pin in people's hands and They'll mark either.
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- Yes. No, or I don't know and we'll find out where they stand You know, what are they trusting in for eternal life? And then a lot of Brayden do you said?
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- Brayden did I think we did all we had and then we have besides that the one We also have people with tracks that are walking around Handing out tracks.
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- And so so you're you're hitting it from all sides. You're hitting people in open air You're hitting people with the one -on -one conversations with the whiteboard
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- You're hitting people with one -on -one conversation as they're walking up and down the streets Just trying to find multiple ways to be able to get to get the gospel out
- 36:27
- David I was trying to figure out how did Brandon answer the question on the whiteboard? That's that's what I'm trying to figure.
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- Oh How did you Think he was going to heaven
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- Yeah, you know, you know what we used to do out in California is you know, like I think but the
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- Evangelism, you know, I've always been used to it was not really like the out in front of a market but behind one
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- Mm -hmm and you know not like out in front of a baseball stadium but in the gutters behind it or you know in under passes and stuff like that and I many many people
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- I have found That were ODing and it was by the grace of God.
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- I was able to many times dude Or Septic shock or you know something like from you know, drinking too much alcohol not and and I got to go down the call the hospital the
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- Ambulance go down sit with them and then when they woke up and able to give them the gospel of Jesus Christ, you know
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- Yeah, and let them know that that is by the grace of God. They just they almost went to hell but um
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- And in in those same areas we put up these These tents and we call them prayer tents and man we'd have me in the sky
- 37:54
- David Hernandez Pastor David Hernandez the hotel dealers ministry used to do that And man, so many people would come in and get prayer.
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- It was real blessing Yeah, isn't it interesting Andrew and you brought up the fact, you know when you you had an opportunity
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- Or actually a tragic opportunity when you witness an accident and stuff like that But what about when you don't witness those accidents?
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- We all know that that people are Going through things how and I know you've taught on this.
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- How do you? In your experience be able to turn a conversation make it a gospel conversation because that seems
- 38:31
- Pretty hard for a lot of people Yeah, I think you're right I think that for most people that I've seen
- 38:37
- When it comes to evangelism, the hardest thing is the transition from the natural world to a spiritual world and that's why
- 38:45
- I made a game of it is to Practice it and so I call it the spiritual transition game
- 38:52
- So you just you sit around with a bunch of people just give some object and whatever the object is
- 38:57
- They have to get to a gospel conversation from whatever you give them and You know, it's something where the more you practice it you start to realize you could take any anything
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- Hmm get to the gospel It's it takes practice and the more you do it the better you get the faster you get
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- You start to see ways that you can transition, you know, these are
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- I'm sorry. Yeah, so these are conversations that are organic conversation. It's not a it's not a
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- Set play by play do this answer that do this. You're just having a natural conversation with people, you know
- 39:36
- So this this Monday they they were gonna they're gonna have the inauguration for Donald Trump You know, it was they decided to move it indoors because it it's gonna be 10 degrees
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- Outside it's that's gonna be cold and they have to get people out there for you know I like 8 o 'clock or earlier because of all the security even though it's not gonna happen till noon and The concern people had is something like cold weather and we don't often think about that because you know
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- You think about we have most of us are nice heated houses but Being out in the elements.
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- It could be dangerous I mean it is something that we take for granted the heat in our homes but you move that and put yourself in a position where you are at the the mercy of the elements and suddenly many people realize
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- All the things they think they're in control of and you realize how little control you actually are of your own life
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- I mean things most people are think they're they're in control of and maybe you feel this way
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- But you know a lot of people think they're in control of their life But do you know when you're gonna die?
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- I mean do any of us have any any idea like how we're gonna die when we're gonna know we have no idea
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- We're not in control of that right how how much less are we in control? What's gonna happen after we die?
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- Yeah, have you ever thought about that? Yeah, that's good stuff. Yeah, really good You know,
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- I Andrew I like how you do that because that's that's exactly how I do evangelism Often often often often.
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- I think it's one of those practices that if you can It brings people it's it's not
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- Associated it's actually personal It's actually building a rapport with somebody as you're you're you're taking them along through this conversation
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- And it's something that's engaging them where they're actually listening to you versus Closing off their ears because you're you're saying a very blunt message, which blunt messages are great.
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- Sometimes. I'm not saying don't use blunt messages I'm just saying that we should have a multitude of tools in our toolbox to be able to share from I think those
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- I know like for me Backing up a little bit. So one of the one of the really cool things on the firefighting side of things is
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- I've been a tragedy somebody dying overdose or whatever the the situation is
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- Being Able to have that ability to have a personal real conversation with somebody that's mourning the loss of their loved one in the other room
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- What some of the most impactful times of evangelism that I have ever been able to partake in is literally doing chest compressions on a person
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- Getting up telling the family member that they're dead and then telling them about Christ.
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- Oh, yeah, and Surreal moments surreal moments.
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- And so I I think it's just one of those practices that you as the Christian need to be prepared and Desirous not just prepared but desire to tell people about Christ for I think there's a multitude of reasons but I think the two chief reasons is one because you love
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- Christ who saved you and Number two, you love your neighbor that's around you So that's that's kind of why
- 42:49
- I wanted to hit on next one When I was I was thinking about Hapsen though You know when you go to a homeless shelter when you go under the bridge, like you had said you were talking to people
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- To actually when we communicate the gospel to communicate it when Philip went to the eunuch
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- You know, he invited him up into the to the chariot with him Why because he knew that he had a genuine care for his soul.
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- That's right. He was being friendly He was loving him. And when we when you go out to the bridges and stuff like that.
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- Wow, you're actually taking time I'd be your day to talk to me Somebody who lives under a bridge that you're not looking at my my living circumstances or conditions you're actually wanting to strike up a conversation with me and Loving him.
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- Yeah, and I and I I don't it's one thing, you know, like I I know
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- I say this a lot and everything but I for me I Could never separate evangelism from discipleship
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- So my that is like a big first for me the first step of discipleship. Yes You can't teach them everything that Christ has taught you
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- Until they're saved. Yeah, no, no. No, I I know but That was the the thing
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- I would do is as I would go out and find them and give them the gospel of Jesus Christ I Would bring them.
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- I'm like I want to help you. I want to get you off the streets I want to bring you to my home Sit you down feed you give you water
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- You know have you have a nice shower and stuff like that? And and then get on then
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- I get the gospel again, you know after they get sober, you know you know, it's one thing to have an emotional response while somebody's under the
- 44:35
- Under a drug or alcohol or something like everybody has a reason an emotional response.
- 44:40
- Sure What is it's it's when it's the next morning. Hmm, you know around yeah
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- Yeah, and I give give the gospel and and Now disciple, you know, and I think that you know with you know, proper
- 44:58
- Orthodoxy brings out a proper orthopraxy So if you got the right
- 45:04
- Orthodoxy, you know the Orthodox you can go and do these things, but you know, yeah
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- Hey Andrew, what do you when does it when do you like mercy ministries? With it with the full intention some are very very well intended to get
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- To attract people by either giving them food and stuff like that at what point? Are those dangerous or are they dangerous?
- 45:31
- Not sure what you mean by dangerous or do you mean Not effective at what point do you just got to say?
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- Hey you guys you're just coming in here. Is there is there a point where? How discerning what does that look like?
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- Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So I think that I think the the Dividing line on that is are are they sharing the gospel?
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- Mm -hmm my my kids school when they were in high school when
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- I went to a Christian school and every year they do admissions and My son did one where they went into New York.
- 46:05
- We went to Bryant Park to To share the gospel They were with a group that was doing as you say mercy missions giving out food and clothing
- 46:17
- The guy who ran it got very upset because we got there early. Yeah, and so because we got there early
- 46:25
- Some of the students wanted to see open -air being done So we got there before the their little van showed up So I just got up on a bench and started sharing the gospel with all the homeless.
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- We're there. Mm -hmm and This guy got offended that we shared the gospel
- 46:45
- Wow because they are there as he said we're here to give them food and Clothing and we don't want them to feel and That's why we just leave the tracks and if they want to take it they take it
- 47:00
- Well, you don't want to push it on them. I've seen that too That's not I don't consider that Christian ministry anymore.
- 47:08
- Is there do you do you think a lot of? Ministries are out there doing that right now.
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- Are you actually getting better? Because it's you know, every church that does short -terms missions. Mm -hmm
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- That's what so I went to church with a guy that he was born in st Lucia. Yeah, and we went back to st
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- Lucia and did some missions and it was very interesting because he had a very very strong opinion about short -term missions and Not doing you know where you're building houses and things like that And I got into discussing it with him because he he was as I am that if you're gonna do missions
- 47:44
- It's about the gospel. You're sharing the gospel. You're teaching them about Christ and The reason he told me he was had such a strong view as he said growing up in st.
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- Lucia Everyone all the locals would purposely let their house
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- Go to fall apart because they knew if their house was in the worst possible condition the
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- Americans come in and give them a and Rebuild them a whole new house at no cost to them
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- All they have to do is have a house that looks worse than everybody else's Yeah, and so he was saying that what the
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- American quote -unquote missions short -term summer missions trips Do you know in an area like st.
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- Lucia is actually trained people? To let their house go to make it look the worst possible and they appeal to the groups that are coming in to go
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- Here's pictures of our house. We have great knee. We can't do anything and the people have the means to take care of their house
- 48:48
- They don't because they know the Americans will come in and do a better job and provide more things that they don't and then they
- 48:54
- Go home going. Oh, didn't we pat ourselves on the back? Didn't we do a wonderful thing? You share the gospel? No Yeah, you know, that's that's really interesting
- 49:02
- I could only imagine the stories that people are going back or the the motivation that's getting more money coming in You know keeping the people in the church busy busy busy and actually doing nothing
- 49:13
- That's advancing the kingdom of God and ministry and I I think also I think a lot of the so should we be
- 49:22
- Participating in ministry that helps the public and our neighbor have not not disagree. Yeah Yeah, I do think there's sometimes an overemphasis on The scripture of Matthew 25 and James chapter 2
- 49:37
- I think is in the context of actually aiding those in the church the church Christ yeah, and so that's where I think a lot of people take that and they stretch the canvas to be just Inclusive of the whole world and that's not the case.
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- How you doing Caleb? That's not the case Yeah, so Caleb says bro. I've been saying this for years short terms missions trips are so often a waste
- 49:59
- Yeah, let me have money. So let me just give it since If you don't mind,
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- I'll just put a shout out if you go to Caleb Gordon org He has a conference coming up in February Some excellent speakers
- 50:16
- I heard rumor rumor that Tom Shepard is gonna come out there because he's gonna see his his favorite and my favorite one of my favorite preachers
- 50:24
- Brandon scoff who's gonna be there now. I was going to see you. Yeah. Well that I wouldn't be your favorite breacher
- 50:32
- We've seen you preach Check and let us know what they think but if Tom Shepard Comes to the the conference and go to Coral Caleb Gordon org to get the details
- 50:52
- How many people in the chat would like to see Tom Shepard go into a cold plunge? Challenge is thrown down Just just so you know
- 51:05
- Caleb has agreed. He will go into the cold plunge I'm I am having a cold
- 51:28
- Rapture port did it again? So Caleb says there are 100 % he's going in Wait a minute.
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- How are you getting your is it portable this tub of yours? well the mine is but the chiller is kind of hard for me to bring on a flight but I will
- 51:45
- I will have a I am having a cold plunge sent to Caleb and We will figure out how to fill it with some water and ice and so yeah, we will have a cold plunge there
- 51:55
- So so here's a question. I was gonna ask you guys. So you have it. You have a choice You have a choice perhaps your choice is
- 52:04
- To get into a 45 -degree cold plunge for five minutes or shave your beard, which do you do?
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- Because I just I had to trim this down so it look bad transition still looks bad. Yeah, I know
- 52:22
- I'm it's getting there though It's it's coming. Okay What about you Braden? Oh No, can you imagine
- 52:35
- Listen Andrew, I'm joining your cold plunge Colt Hey dude is
- 52:42
- You got to think about Brandon's hands. How's it gonna get out of the the tub with those little hands?
- 52:49
- Now that we've established now now we just have the thing so Tom is either gonna Caleb Tom is either gonna go in the cold plunge or we're gonna hold him down and shave his beard.
- 52:59
- I'll tell you what I'll tell you what. I will get in after Brandon scalp I Yeah, he goes in first and out and then maybe
- 53:10
- I'll go in but I doubt he's in y 'all are gross You just want to be bathing in each other's water Take Oh ticket sales going through the roof.
- 53:24
- He says VIP tickets. Oh to get into cold plunge here with Andrew I mean,
- 53:35
- I think those tickets are only like 50 bucks. I mean if you get a discount on that I Ain't joining no
- 53:47
- CPC cold plunge Cole. I'm out cold plunge Cole Yeah, Brandon scalp,
- 53:55
- I think you have Toby Sumter you have who else is that Caleb's gonna be preaching you're gonna be preaching No, Toby Sumter is not preaching who is no water boys preaching.
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- Yeah. Yeah, Gabe I forget his last name Michael Staton. He's gonna be there
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- Brett Baggett, I think is another one. Oh, yeah guys. Yeah Yeah, well, what's another what's another
- 54:21
- Here's when I got one here. This is this sounds good. Number eight. I'm gonna ask the question. Why are you going to eat? I wanted three
- 54:27
- I was right on number three. Wait a minute. This is a neat one I really like this. I want to hear everybody. So if Jesus is parable of the prodigal son were made into a movie
- 54:36
- What would be the most important scene? What would you what would you like? I like that question the prodigal son movie
- 54:43
- What would be the most important scene that you would want to see? I'm gonna go last cuz I think you're all gonna miss the point.
- 54:48
- So go for it Great Patterson, ah, man, you know master
- 54:56
- Brayden, I think a panoramic conclusion showing the brother in discontent with the with the prodigal son
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- Standing outside his father's house unwilling to go in and that like just this beautiful Super sad lowly.
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- I mean it's gonna be drawn out, right? It's gonna be sad tears in the eyes But he's not he's unwilling to go into that father's house while maybe in the background you see the house lit up and the prodigal
- 55:26
- Son is being celebrated for his return and he's a part of this feast now And and then you have that that crying brother outside.
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- It would be it would be beautiful I listen if you want me to help direct this if any any If any any movie stars are out there that are looking for me to direct
- 55:42
- I can I can do that for you I think I got some good ideas for this movie Perhaps what he got, you know,
- 55:47
- I would say the same thing, you know, but just the the the son
- 55:55
- Returning to the father. Mm -hmm, you know, it's just that and I think that that would you know begin when
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- You know like because if you look at the other two parables that came before it talks about It's talking about how the
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- The Good Shepherd goes out, you know and he's the one that goes against the wandering sheep, you know, and And so that that given that gift of repentance, you know that part right there
- 56:27
- We're in the prodigal son. I think that'd be cool Yeah, I do but I do think part of the prodigal son is it's it's trying to teach.
- 56:36
- I Really do believe this that the the Jews in rejecting Christ and Being a woman said that he was gathering his sheep together
- 56:47
- They and so that's what I that I think I think the point of it it's building up the 99 sheep
- 56:53
- Everybody's celebrating the neighbors are celebrating and here is Christ who's going to bless both
- 56:59
- Jew and Gentile and you have an Upsetness that's going on there. So I think where I would go with that And I think you were heading right the right direction right there that the that the brother representative the
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- Pharisees Yep, and that that you know, when he I the scene that I would like to see they're the most most
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- Glorious thing that I would see is when all the pigs. That's when now when he puts the robe when he puts the robe on And makes him righteous but in ring in his ring in yeah in his ring but I think what happens in John MacArthur preached on this if you guys have ever heard the the tale of two sons
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- He talks about what what happened next it's not written in the scripture and what happened next is that the brother killed the dad the brother killed the dad
- 57:50
- So that's it's conjecture, but it's he's like finishing the story that the that the older brother
- 57:57
- Turned out killing his dad who was the dad? Well, and and it's a conjecture because of what it's about So Brayden made me eat my words because most people would don't get this right but because it's
- 58:25
- Jot it down. It's the only time in history that Brayden was right But you got it
- 58:31
- You know, it's actually I mean this is why and I think MacArthur makes this point it's really not the the prodigal son
- 58:38
- Mmm, the prodigal sons. Yeah, because the main part of the story is not the younger brother, but the older brother
- 58:46
- Yeah, and and so many people and and as Brayden pointed out and so many people forget this
- 58:53
- It's that is not one parable all by itself The third of three parables, that's right one with a hundred sheep
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- Where 99 don't go astray one goes astray isn't found and returned and there's rejoicing
- 59:11
- Melissa says Brayden is right The same thing the exact same thing with the coin ten coins
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- Nine that aren't lost one that's lost and is found So then he gets into the prodigal sons and now you have it where he's one son that goes goes astray where the other doesn't
- 59:31
- And the irony is that the whole point of is the older brother is angry
- 59:37
- Yeah that this strange son would Receive the father's blessing and that's why you know
- 59:46
- It if you were to finish it with conjecture, we know historically what did you representing the
- 59:52
- Pharisees? What did they do? well, they killed the Christ which so that's the the the the representation of the the father there in the story, so yeah,
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- I the the main thing if you're gonna have the main scene it would be as as Brayden said he was
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- Brayden was Case anyone ever saw, you know happy days
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- On Z who couldn't say the word wrong But he is yeah often
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- The older son When the older son was entitled the older son was doing everything right the older son never strayed the older son
- 01:00:46
- Never went anywhere. He was always working for the father and all this stuff. How in the world? Can you go and give grace?
- 01:00:54
- These this this son who squandered everything and I think it shows that the son was never walking in a way
- 01:01:01
- That was actually pleasing right? And so like that's what you see what the Pharisees is Lord Lord, am
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- I I fast twice a week? I do X Y & Z things but lime and I'm not like this tax collector here
- 01:01:14
- Look at how good I am You know the modern reading the modern reading of that is I'm not like that Brayden over there
- 01:01:31
- Okay, question number three question number three, yeah, so if if the church today
- 01:01:38
- I Didn't take Tom's Tom came over these questions, but if I could get to him then then you guys have to answer man
- 01:01:46
- I'm I'm this has to be the last question. I have to get off after this. Yeah, I do too
- 01:01:52
- You guys started an hour late now Do we get to explain why you were you're throwing your kids out
- 01:02:02
- Braden, I mean really You know, you're trashing your kids it's like, you know, seriously
- 01:02:07
- Andrew Andrew calls me an hour before the show saying where are you at? My I'm walking my kids out and taking the trash out.
- 01:02:14
- He's like, why are you throwing your kids away? I Assumed everything's revolves around New York.
- 01:02:31
- So, you know, you say the clock, you know New Yorkers think everything's revolves around them I just figured you know
- 01:02:37
- You said 8 o 'clock. I figured that was for me. So I showed up at 8 o 'clock We're standing around being fun, okay
- 01:02:51
- So this is this is a good question So if you if you could only have one book and I'm gonna change the question up there
- 01:02:58
- Tom a little bit But if you can have only one book, I'll word it this way. You're in a desert island You can only get one book of the
- 01:03:07
- Bible Which book do you choose and I'll expand it and give you a choice
- 01:03:13
- You could choose one Old Testament one New Testament Cool one or the other or both you could you could choose one old one new
- 01:03:21
- So you get so in this case you get two books one from the old one from the new Perhaps what books do you take with you on the deserted island?
- 01:03:32
- Genesis and Revelation And nothing in between you know, no, you know, no trickery here.
- 01:03:39
- No, it's just a revelation Yeah, you got no no, no because you got creation and then recreation, all right
- 01:03:51
- Tom Isaiah in Ephesians Why? Isaiah because it's it's talking about our need our whole condition or it's it's prophetic
- 01:04:04
- Ephesians goes into doctrine heavily doctrine finding out Who God is?
- 01:04:10
- How he saves man how we ought to live through the last three chapters so doctrine in practice basically
- 01:04:20
- All right, Braden. I Was gonna joke and say revelation earlier, but then half said it joke a little bit
- 01:04:27
- But I was gonna I was joking because I was like man If listen anybody that's stranded on an island and they start reading that they're gonna start so they're gonna be an all -male quick He's stranded on island
- 01:04:50
- That's how Braden, you know develops his amillennialism just go ahead and say Braden is right
- 01:04:59
- Look at his interpretation style John's on an island all mills, right? I mean No, I probably
- 01:05:10
- The Old Testament, I think is gonna be a little bit for some reason my mind I'm thinking I'm thinking Galatians for some reason right now
- 01:05:18
- I'm sure that maybe it would change daily. If you ask me maybe John maybe John I probably take John now that I think about it
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- Oh, I know. Are you allowed to go other than the Gospels or was that the question? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I allowed other than the
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- Gospels. Okay, you could change your answer with the gospel Yeah, no any book any
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- New Testament book and any Old Testament book. I probably want to change your answer No, I'll stick with mine.
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- I Would probably go John. Oh, hey, can we put up Melissa's last comment there? No lame
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- No, no, not the lame one. The one where she says Braden is Wrong she says
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- I Knew I liked Melissa I'm sorry.
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- I meant I meant to say John the Apostle as a 1689 Optimistic all milk.
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- What would your Old Testament book be Braden? I'm trying to think here You're acting like post -millennial because you're taking so much time
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- I'm trying to develop a good answer for you guys lamentations Time is just a figurative thing for him as an all -male so you go with Let me think a minute.
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- I'm not meaning a literal 60 seconds. Give me a give me a undefined time to think about this Yeah, you know what a figure of speech is kind of like if I said a thousand years
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- You're going you're going with well, that's a literal thousand years compared to a literal day just say
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- That's the comparison. So what limitations and which Why Why Genesis and John Genesis, I think really kind of Develops.
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- I really enjoyed a seminary book that I just read recently where sin abounds and I really like how it develops the the
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- What is the outcome of sinful behavior and how man is just continually? Delving deeper in this and the repercussions of sin and then with John I think it just focuses a lot on the deity of Christ the fulfillments of those
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- Old Testament Prophecies and how those things are reconciled in Christ. And so that's why I think Genesis and John.
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- Yeah, I would go with Psalms Because the Psalms have the most theology in the
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- Old Testament and that's why you see it's quoted more than any other book And so that's what people would do.
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- They put they'd put theology to song. So you you get the range of Theology and emotion from the the sorrows if you're on a desert deserted island all by yourself
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- You're gonna have some of that to the highs views of God and his glory So you get all that range within the book of Psalms In the
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- New Testament, I'll go ahead I don't ever get side. I'm an all -male
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- Mm -hmm New Testament I'm gonna go with Hebrews and the reason for Hebrew is because it has such a high view of Christ.
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- Mm -hmm, so You you as you keep reading through it. You're gonna meditate more and more on who
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- Christ is now Choosing Hebrews if I had to be pressed and could not choose
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- Psalms The other Old Testament book I would choose and this would shock people but Josea Deuteronomy.
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- Oh, they're lamentations Leviticus I meant sorry the reason being is people don't often understand
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- Leviticus is The Gospels present you have to understand the biggest understand Hebrews long gospel, but it's so much of Leviticus When and if you want if you want just go and search
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- Leviticus Andrew Rappaport, you'll see a couple places where I teach through Leviticus in one hour looking at the repetitive words that you have throughout the book and The gospel is laid out.
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- So the the whole thing of Leviticus is you have the the way Hebrews Would write you have it's not like Western thinking where you build point -upon -point your conclusions at the end
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- What you have is the conclusions in the middle. So on one side of the Leviticus It's working its way up to chapter 17 where it's building up to the climax and then after 17 you're coming down From the climax.
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- Well, what is the climax the Day of Atonement? Atonement Working your way up to that you see all the talk about cleanliness purity uncleanliness
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- Unpure the fact that we that atonement has to be made there had to be a sacrifice this
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- Sacrifice has to be pure has to be Unblemished all of that is like God standard
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- Correct that's working all the way up to the Day of Atonement When now there's atonement and what do you have and I challenge those listening to go open to Leviticus Chapter 18 and start reading what and look for a common theme that you're gonna see right after the
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- Day of Atonement You're gonna see a phrase Repeated dozens and dozens of dozens of times right after starting in chapter 18 and it is very simply
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- That God is or the Lord is God Okay.
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- So when you look at Leviticus 18 Let me just really quickly go there
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- And I'm not gonna repeat anything Okay, these are not repeats verse 2.
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- I am the Lord your God verse 4. I am the Lord your God Verse 5. I am the Lord verse 6.
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- I am the Lord You seeing a pattern yeah, okay verse 21.
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- I am the Lord Let's see verse 30.
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- I am the Lord your God Chapter 19 verse 3. I am the Lord your
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- God verse 4. I am the Lord your God Anyone picking up what he's throwing down there?
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- Yeah, right after atonement it's all about God because he was the
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- Atonement and Then you start to see as you you move out from there that the work of salvation
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- So I would if I had to couldn't have the book of Psalms I would go look with Leviticus, which would seem strange to folks
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- But I guess we'll go check out the message. That's yummy Yeah, that's great, brother
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- Yeah I think you see a similar thing that takes place in the book of Job as far as the how climaxes in the middle and I think you see the same thing.
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- I think that's a that's a common Literature style. It's it's a very common Eastern style of yeah, which is what so so Paul is a more
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- Western thinking style so We would end up being you know, so you have to understand that when you come to the the the
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- Bible Yeah that there is a different styles or writing to get to what the main point is. So yep
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- We'll get bogged down in Leviticus like it's all these laws Well, why do you have all the laws? Yeah, because they're pointing to something.
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- Yeah, so when you recognize that it's all pointing to the middle chapter Chapter 17 the day of atonement good stuff
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- Andrew Awesome Hey pretty good show here guys.
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- Not not to show we only did what three or four questions on AI For we get you know, there's time for more.
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- We don't need Braden. No I Brayden is right. So I don't know what you guys would do without me.
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- So that's not what Melissa said. She said no reading is wrong. I Don't remember her earlier comment you guys mind if I do a quick plug with everything.
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- Should we start doing goodbyes and and hugs and kisses and all that right now right now? Yeah, good.
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- Go ahead and start below you and move to haps on didn't mean and you could close this out Don't give me that look
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- Andrew. You're talking about jumping in a cold plunge with each other with One at a time
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- Actually, they I could get I could get the the group plunge and we all go you guys would like that group plunge
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- Then you gotta stay in till the last one gets out. You know, who's the last? Who can survive the longest maybe that would be fun to do
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- Andrew any last words, bro Well, I would just say thanks for having me on it's it's really a privilege to you know
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- Be able to join you guys have some fun discussion even though haps is here and Yeah, but he's got no teeth
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- Yes, I mean still don't exist Matter I've been talking to chat
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- GPI or whatever. It's called all night wearing a purple shirt Well, I have actually been writing a ice for over 30 years so Yeah Little kid
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- I didn't know but yeah, no, I do. Thank you guys for having me on fun discussion and so I appreciate you you have me on and And then
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- I'm gonna I'm gonna go and I'm selling my off my library And so I'm gonna go back to packaging up books for folks that are buying books
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- Anyone interested just go check out my Facebook page and you can see all the books that are still left Brayden needs them for his his nice big office there that he's got
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- With the bear right there, but then I got some more books It's a big office. Yeah, it is and he's got some antlers that the previous pastor must left because you know,
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- No, I don't even see any bears there My bear skulls right there and then the bear pelts right there.
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- Oh that your cape. That's on a box right now I'm not a good place to put everybody you guys know that that Braden shot boo -boo bear last year
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- Baby bear and he tasted very good, too Don't worry everybody any last words their hats
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- Uh, oh I got so many things I want to say I'm gonna look right over at him, you know
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- No, I actually I If you guys want to check out my show
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- R &B studios, it's on Facebook. I'm gonna try and get rap report on and I don't have a first name
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- Yeah rapture port boom gone in an instant no And Matt slick he's gonna be coming on so I want to do these things as 20 seconds with Matt slick and Andrew rap report
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- Dude, I would love to see you manage to get an answer from Matt slick in only 20 seconds
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- I'm gonna happen. I know I know I saw the whole thing is If you said
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- Matt, what is your name that would take him longer than 20 seconds, dude
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- I want to see him go off. Just ask him a stupid question. He just flipped out, you know, are there ghosts?
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- Are there ghosts? Yes No, but uh, thanks for having me on and guys a glorified
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- God and enjoy him forever Rated and his mink Boo -boo bear, look at that that little baby bear.
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- He didn't even have to shoot him. He shot him with a BB gun. Yeah Rock Adam. It's more bad.
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- All you guys have ever shot in your whole lives together put together You sure about that? You know what?
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- I'm hearing jealousy right now We cover your bare first And mama bear still tracking you down over it isn't she she is but don't worry
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- I'm waiting I'm the one that shot mama bear
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- Picture cuz while he was shooting little babies Huh, have you shot a bear before I may or may not have shot a bill you have it
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- Yeah, I'm not gonna believe you because it's probably Andrew intelligent and created yeah, well
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- Do a photo if you want I'll do I'll do a photo of me shooting Hapsan, you know Hap stressed as a bear
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- This this is a typical open -air theology show Thank you guys so much for watching
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- We really appreciate you guys and and the questions that you guys ask and they haven't Andrew on and have so well as well
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- Church tomorrow you guys go to church if you guys Have a church close by you if you you know, okay
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- We're getting five inches of snow and one of the my the best email I got tonight
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- Was from my pastor saying we're still having church So go to church tomorrow sing to him he's worthy and if you guys
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- You know if you guys walk out your door go out and share the gospel with somebody just tell them about Jesus I mean, that's what we're supposed to do.
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- We're gonna be his witnesses. So go out and do that Thank you guys for being on and I'll give it to that guy
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- Haps you left California, right you fled that country With any would any sane person go from like the freest country in the world known as Idaho and go to that communist country of California with that would a sane person do such a thing happens
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- What I'm at what I'm just saying is this That the fires started after he arrived
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- He was looking at the mail man. He was looking for a job buyers Yeah Of course, of course, he's gonna start a fire because who's gonna call and put it out
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- Yeah, get a call the fireman or a Ghostbusters Stories to tell you guys first of all, let me answer you with this
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- Andrew. Do I look like a sane person? No, yeah Got a bear right now.
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- I ain't saying he doesn't live in a place with the population explains everything
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- It's different on brain when we leave a population of like Yeah, man, it's actually been so good to actually have like you like Conversations with people throughout the day on the gospel and like that's how they know you're not from there
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- Hi, what's your name? My name's Braden I go to church right over there.
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- What'd you have for breakfast today? Then they're honking me and giving me the one -finger wave
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- Cowboys be a red state Wait Maybe right.
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- He may be right. I mean these fires people are getting real upset over But no,
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- I just I just found out tonight that my dad hit me up and he told me that Tom that was so funny
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- Imagine that poor guy at in -and -out boy. These in -and -out burgers are fantastic. Don't you think they're good? When did you?
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- They didn't have these in Idaho Hey Owen's last comment up there
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- She said California ran out of water because Andrew used it all first call A humble clay says this is the last show of the
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- Joe Biden administration He said he then says great great show new president
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- Monday. I think he's looking forward to that. I don't know Yeah Sounds like it.
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- So I was gonna say How's what are you gonna be hearing in church tomorrow
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- Over and over and over and over I Don't need this y 'all.
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- No the whole in Hagerman in our small town. I Started pastoring there and one of the churches in town burnt down So I have a bad track record
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- It was a bad fire to it. It was real bad And then I move here and now there's a really really bad.
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- No, it was somebody burning weeds next to the building that caught it Yeah, it was a whole thing. Anyway, they don't burn weeds out there.
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- They just pee on weeds out there and they just Know I actually did see a guy peeing on the side of the street the other day.
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- That was new different Hey guys,
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- I gotta get going, okay When you get up north in San Francisco area, this is no joke
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- Like I so I was preaching in a church that's up in that area and My bride and I were gonna like walk around San Francisco area and the pastor of the church goes.
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- Well, I got an app you have to get You know, it's the the poop app. Anyway, excuse me.
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- He goes. Yeah, he goes you got to get this app because Basically, it tells you where all the homeless are pooping on the street so that you can they report it
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- They actually have an app for San Francisco so that they could report to people to know where to clean up the the feces of human
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- Beings that are just defecating on the street. Welcome to California my friend Say that Yeah.
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- Oh, yeah all over the place, dude I will also say that I hope people don't think I'm too weird This bear is super warm and I get cold and so it's actually kind of it works
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- You ought to make a Bible out of it. I think it would so I have another bear pelt that's getting tanned right now
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