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There is an enormous amount of confusion concerning other religions such as Mormonism, Catholicism, and Islam within the

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Christian Church today. Let's take a look at some troubling examples, progressing to the most troubling at the end, and then we'll share some concluding thoughts, so make sure you stick around until the end to hear them.

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At number 6 we have Kanye West, who said this about Mormons and Catholics.

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If you believe that Jesus died for your sins, then you know the gospel.

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That's the gospel. Don't be telling me Mormons got an extra book and Catholics do this. It's simple. Christians, we be making it too hard for people to come and be involved in this.

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But Kanye, it's actually not that simple. Of course, the heart of the gospel is believing that Jesus died for our sins, but there are other relevant questions we need to ask, such as, who is

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Jesus? Do Mormons and Christians believe in the same Jesus? We'll say a little more about this later in the video.

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What does it mean to believe that Jesus died for your sins? What role do works have in salvation?

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Do Catholics and Protestants believe the same thing about this? Again, we'll say a little more about this later in the video.

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But Kanye pretty much lost all credibility as a Christian after his interview with Alex Jones.

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However, number five, George Janko, is an extremely popular Christian who has also said some troubling things about other religions.

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Listen to George's answers to Logan Paul here. You all think you're right, and you think that the Muslims are going to hell, and they think that you're going to hell, and the

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Jews think that - Well, I never said that. You can't put words in my mouth. No, in his house. You put words in his house. You can't put words in my mouth. I never said that.

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Let him speak. If you believe in Christianity, it's what you think. You might not have said it, but - I don't think that is the case. See, I think this is the problem,

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Logan. You assume so much that you don't know one Bible verse. What happens to a Muslim when they die, George?

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I don't know. God says no one knows who goes to heaven or hell. That's in the Bible. But they do go to heaven or hell? Yes. A Muslim can go to heaven?

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Yes. Can a Jewish person go to heaven? Again, I don't know who goes to heaven or hell. I am not the guy who decides who's going to heaven or hell.

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Doesn't your scripture say something about if you're not subscribed to Christianity - Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're basically just saying that you're going to be banished.

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You can only go through the Father, through the Son, yeah. So Christianity believed that through Jesus, you could be saved.

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Only through Jesus, not Allah. But question, what makes you think I'm going around condemning people?

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That's what I want to know. Because you always put that on me. It seems that in his effort to not offend people,

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George refuses to simply say what the Bible clearly teaches, which is that anyone who does not have faith in Jesus Christ remains in sin and will not only not go to heaven, but will also be punished in hell.

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Muslims and Jews, by definition, have not placed their faith in Jesus Christ for salvation and will not be in heaven.

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Logan Paul's hostility towards George's faith is actually pretty honest. But instead of answering

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Logan with honesty, George seems to compromise concerning the gospel of Jesus Christ.

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But George is ultimately just a YouTuber, not an official Christian teacher. This is not the case for number four,

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Rick Warren, a former pastor of one of the largest megachurches in the United States, Saddleback Church.

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Listen to what Warren said about Catholics. We have far more in common than what divides us.

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When you talk about Pentecostals, Charismatics, Evangelicals, Fundamentalists, Catholics, Methodists, Baptists, Presbyterians, on and on and on and on.

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Well, they would all say, we believe in the Trinity. We believe in the Bible. We believe in the resurrection. We believe salvation is through Jesus Christ.

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These are the big issues. Sometimes Protestants think that Catholics worship Mary like she's another

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God. That's not exactly Catholic doctrine. There's the understanding, and people say, well, what are the saints all about?

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Why are you praying to the saint? And when you understand what they mean by what they're saying, there's a whole lot more commonality.

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Now, there's still real difference. No doubt about that. But the most important thing is, if you love Jesus, we're on the same team.

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But again, the gospel is more than just about loving Jesus, or even believing in the Trinity, the

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Bible, the resurrection, and salvation through Jesus. In Galatians, Paul writes,

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If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.

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Christianity is about the true gospel of Jesus Christ. And one of the key questions we must ask is, is the

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Roman Catholic view of the role of works in salvation heretical? Again, we'll talk a little more about this later in the video.

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Of course, it's extremely troubling that such a popular pastor as Rick Warren would compromise concerning the nature of the gospel.

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But it's perhaps even more troubling for a pastor who should be more solid theologically, number three,

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Francis Chan, to appear to compromise concerning Catholicism. Here's Francis Chan speaking to a group of Catholics.

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You can tell me all day you're a Baptist, you're a whatever, I hopper, you know, a Catholic or whatever.

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It's like there are some core doctrines in scripture about seeking righteousness, not of your own, but through Christ.

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And it's about you knowing him and the seed of God abiding in you. And I see it.

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I believe I see it on different individuals, and I don't even know where they're from or what category you put them into, but I don't see it all in one category.

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I just see it in some people. And maybe that's what the Lord's doing right now, is giving us eyes to see his spirit in people's lives.

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But like with Rick Warren, Chan seems to be ignoring foundational, essential doctrines, such as justification through faith alone, which

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Catholicism officially rejected at the Council of Trent. Go to our Catholic friends, listen to this, the

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Council of Trent, Session 6, Canon 9, if anyone says that by faith alone the sinner is justified, so as to mean that nothing else is required to cooperate in order to obtain the grace of justification, let him be anathema.

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Again, Session 6, Canon 11, if anyone says that men are justified either by the imputation of righteousness, of the righteousness of Christ alone, or by the remission of sins alone, to the exclusion of the grace and love that is poured forth in their heart by the

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Holy Spirit and is inherent in them, or even that the grace by which we are justified is only the favor of God, let him be anathema.

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And finally, if anyone says that the guilt is remitted to every penitent sinner after the grace of justification has been received and that the debt of eternal punishment is so blotted out that there remains no debt of temporal punishment to be discharged either in this world or in the next in purgatory, before the entrance to the kingdom of heaven can be opened, let him be anathema.

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They do not preach the same gospel. It doesn't really matter how many things Catholics and Protestants agree on if the official teaching of the

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Catholic Church rejects non -negotiable doctrines related to the true gospel of Jesus Christ.

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But neither Rick Warren nor Francis Chan have the amount of influence that number two, Joel Osteen has.

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Osteen is the pastor of Lakewood Church, probably the largest megachurch in the entire country.

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First, listen to what Osteen has said about Mormons. In South Carolina, they're going to have a vote for the

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Republican nominee for president. The leading candidate is a Mormon, Governor Romney. Tell me how you see

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Mormonism, his religion, and how you define it within the Christian community. Well, you know, what

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I see about Governor Romney is that he says, I believe Jesus Christ is the son of God.

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He's raised from the dead. And, you know, he's my savior. I see him as being a believer in Christ like me. And that's enough for you?

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Yeah, that's enough for me. I mean, there's differences in all religion. I realize Mormonism is different from Christianity, but you know what?

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He's a man of faith and values. And to me, that's that's strong. But as we've mentioned before, it's vitally important to understand exactly who

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Mormons believe Jesus is and what exactly Mormons mean when they call Jesus their savior.

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Again, we'll talk more about that soon. And now listen to what Osteen has said about Catholics.

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What's your view of the current Pope? You know, the Pope has obviously been reaching out and has been a force of moderation in comparison to his predecessors.

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What do you make of it? I think the Pope is fantastic. You know, I just think his tone, his humility, his, you know,

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I loved when he said the other day, you know, and it's our view, too. We're not trying to, you know, make this a little bitty narrow thing.

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Anybody's welcome. We may not agree, you know, 100 percent on doctrine and theology, but you know what? We're willing.

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The church, Catholic church, our church, it's open for everybody. So I like his tone, not pushing people away, but I believe

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God's big and his mercy is very wide. I suppose it's no surprise that Osteen would downplay doctrine and theology to attract a broader audience, which is exactly what

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Osteen does at Lakewood Church. But the issue isn't whether we agree 100 percent on doctrine.

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It's whether there are non -negotiable doctrines that Catholics and Protestants disagree on.

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But someone with arguably even more influence than Joel Osteen is number one, Dallas Jenkins, the creator and director of the extremely popular show,

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The Chosen. Jenkins is at the top of this list because of his enormous influence over millions of people and his extremely close relationships with both

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Mormons and Catholics. If I actually made the statement, evangelicals and LDS love the same Jesus or LDS are

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Christians, that would be a problem. And here's why. Not because there aren't LDS folks who are Christians and not because there aren't

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LDS and evangelicals who love the same Jesus, but because it would be wrong of me to ever say that any one group believes any one thing altogether.

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This is Jenkins trying to explain some controversial statements he has said. Let's listen to a little more before we make some comments on what he said.

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That we oftentimes will label the entire group as having a particular belief or a particular personality.

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It would be just as dumb for me to say that all LDS are Christians as it would be to say that all evangelicals are

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Christians or that all Catholics are Christians or any other faith tradition. And it would also be dumb of me to say that none are.

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That's also a level of arrogance that I don't possess. I happen to be speaking about, and when I've talked about my brothers and sisters in Christ and I've talked about those

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LDS folks that I know who love the same Jesus I do, I'm referring to some of the friends that I have who identify as LDS who

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I've gotten to know very deeply over the last few years in particular and have had hundreds of hours of conversations with and I stand by the statement that those friends of mine that I'm referring to absolutely love the same

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Jesus that I do. But Mormonism's gospel principles describes Jesus in this way.

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Every person who was ever born on earth was our spirit brother or sister in heaven. The first spirit born to our heavenly parents was

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Jesus Christ, so he is literally our elder brother. The Jesus of official

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Mormon teaching is clearly and obviously very, very different from the

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Jesus of official Protestant teaching. So if the Jesus of Jenkins' Mormon friends is the same

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Jesus as Jenkins' Jesus, then the question is why would Jenkins' Mormon friends identify as Mormon if they actually believe in the

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Protestant Jesus? Of course, it's true that not everyone who professes to be evangelical believes in the true

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Jesus. But this has nothing to do with the clear differences between official Mormon teaching and official

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Protestant teaching. Jonathan Rumi is the actor who plays Jesus in The Chosen.

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Rumi is also a devout Roman Catholic. I speak a lot of Spanish. I always play with you.

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A lot of games. Every day. A smile materialized on the Pope's face when Rumi told him of his role as Jesus in The Chosen.

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Because I have the honor to play with you.

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A legitimate question Christian viewers of The Chosen might have is, why did

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Jenkins, a Protestant Christian, choose to have a Roman Catholic like Jonathan Rumi play the role of Jesus?

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Is Jenkins saying that Catholics and Protestants are unified in what they believe about the gospel? Well, let's keep watching.

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Then the series director Dallas Jenkins introduced himself, and the Pope couldn't hold back his sense of humor.

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I'm Agbo. Jesus? Yes. Jesus. No, no, no, no, no.

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No, no. But I am Protestant, but I am making a show for everyone who loves

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Jesus. For everyone who loves Jesus. But again, Jenkins is being kind of vague here.

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Certainly, Protestants and Catholics have a lot in common about what they believe about Jesus. But I would like to know what

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Jenkins believes about some of the non -negotiable differences between Protestants and Catholics.

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We've already heard Votie Bauckham describe a non -negotiable foundational difference between Catholics and Protestants.

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What about Mormonism? Like with Catholicism, many Protestants and Mormons are trying to close the gap between the two religions.

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Listen to what John MacArthur says. Here's the problem. They are polytheists.

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They have millions of gods. Just millions of them and more all the time. Every time Mormons have a baby, they potentiate another god.

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So this is anything but Christian in its view of God. They have a Christ who is another

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Jesus. And another Jesus is a way to preach another Jesus and you get cursed. Second John.

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I have nothing to do with them or become a partaker of their evil deeds. So in the end, wrong

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God, wrong Christ, wrong way of salvation. They also say the Bible is corrupt.

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You see that in all their literature. The Bible has been corrupted. It is not trustworthy. It is not always right.

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It is not correct. You have to turn to them for the correct interpretation of it and all of that.

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So I think you can start with the authority of Scripture, you can start with the person of God, you can start with the person of Christ, or you can start with salvation by grace.

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They even said to me, we believe in salvation by grace, and I said, well explain the full extent of that. Well, God didn't have to give us a way to earn our way into heaven.

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So it's a gracious thing that he allows us to do that. But I think you can pick any one of those you want or try one and then try another.

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You need to first distance them from Christianity. This is the thing they're trying, they're trying to close the gap.

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This is their formidable effort. Make sure they understand that this is more like Hinduism and paganism and false religion than it is anything to do with Christianity.

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Christians don't be deceived. Devout Catholics and devout Mormons who actually believe the official teachings of Mormonism and Catholicism are not

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Christians and they are not saved. They need to hear the gospel of Jesus Christ as much as any atheist.

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In fact, they may be even more difficult to reach because they believe they already know

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Jesus Christ and are already saved. We need to first explain the non -negotiable differences, and then we need to present the true gospel of Jesus Christ to them.

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