Shooter Manifesto, Trump's IVF and Abortion Positions, & Answering Critics

Conversations that matter. Podcast. Let's start with the the big topic right now. Shall we we there's. I have more than enough information to do probably three podcasts today so we're not going to get to all of it.

The Nashville Shooter Manifesto and the Evil of Leftist Propaganda

I don't think. But of course the big news today is this Nashville shooter manifesto. Audrey Hale. I read a few articles on this. This is the one from not to be. They touched some of the highlights of this.

I should also note truth script is going to have an article dropping tonight as I understand on this particular issue as well so I'm not writing that article but that will be coming out. The article says that there are 90 pages that you can download.

I haven't gone through all 90. I did try to download them and had some trouble. So I've seen I've seen like maybe 10 or 15 of the pages the ones that have been gaining more traction. The opening begins with darkness and everybody hurts followed by religion.

Won't save. Here's a picture of course with the stars and the TN logo is for the Tennessee star. So that is not obviously part of the journal but the rest of it is and just if you have kids if you're driving listening to this or something just I want to warn you that some of the stuff I'm gonna try to be a you know edit it as much as I can but I can't control everything that's going to come up on the screen.

There's some sexually provocative or explicit I should say language. Of course you have a lot of anti white language. I understand that some of the other articles I was reading say that the term white privilege comes up but she talks about no brown girls no love.

I am nothing brown love is the most beautiful brown girls have the nicest skin especially yours rather to to touch it. I die. I hate my thoughts. I mean this is I actually agree I didn't hear the clip but I'm Jack Posobiec went out there and said this is demonic and I would agree I think this is demonic.

This is a very twisted mind someone influenced by some very twisted things saying things that some are calling it self-hatred but it's it really a hatred at God. It's a hatred at the way that the creator made this person.

Audrey Hale does not like the way that God made her and that includes not just her race or ethnicity but also her gender. White privilege there it is white privilege. Arrow. There's an arrow white privilege to in embarrassment of self.

This is I think the crux of the issue. Audrey Hale was brainwashed essentially by leftist propaganda godless propaganda propaganda against the created order propaganda that made her think that she was somehow inferior and not in her right but not not who created her to be not who she should be in an unfair situation somehow in a less morally upright situation just because of the way that she was created.

And this inspired her to lash out against the order that God made in the form of other people. There's language in here about her wanting her dad dead. There's other violent language and it's the mental.

It's rantings. It's the the the rantings and ravings of a very mentally disturbed person but not just mentally disturbed evil. And apparently there's a lot more. There's videos. There's two flash drives.

There's from what I understand they think there's 900 more pages something like that of information that has yet to be released. But that's who Audrey Hale is. When I called a lady or ma 'am it makes me not want to exist.

The body in me exists only to me. I'm just tired of being called and identified by a gender. I am NOT at all this is so sad. So now because of you I wish death on myself because of the pure hatred of my female gender with no rights anyone's country is a in the expletive dictatorship.

If God won't give me a boy body in heaven then Jesus is. And then she uses a another colorful word there I don't know how much more I want to go on this. It's just the whole thing is sad. The whole thing is terrible.

And it I think does inform us about some of the motives of this at least where she was coming from where her headspace was that she longed for. I guess being in heaven with this girl. I mean there's some very explicit stuff about wanting to do I guess particular sexual things with a black girl.

And and that's what we have so far. At least those are the highlights that are being passed around today. So the curious thing I suppose is why in the world were Southern Baptists and I've talked about this before.

But why was their money that they give to the cooperative program some of which goes to the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission. Why did it go to suppress this. Why was Brent Leatherwood the head of that organization so concerned if any of this information got out here's Brent Leatherwood from press conference.

I believe this was a little over maybe about a year and a half ago or so. And.

Lastly I want to speak directly to the person who took these images and released them. You are a viper you're a member of the law enforcement community and you have released evidence that was gathered in our most vulnerable moment.

You have now allowed this woman who terrorized our family with bullets to be able to now terrorize us with words from the grave. How could you what kind of a person does this. I've had a number of conversations today with Metro police TBI others.

Metro has assured me that this is a felony. The person who did this would be brought to justice it would be arrested. And that absolutely has to happen. The vast majority of our police officers have obviously on that day shown incredible bravery and since then they have shown incredible kindness to us.

And I am so thankful for those police officers who have waved at our children who have said how grateful they are for the prayers that our families have prayed for them on so many nights. And so this doesn't reflect you in law enforcement whether it's Metro TBI or some other member of law enforcement.

This is not. This is not you. This is someone who is in your midst. So I just want to say to that person I will commit to praying for you. You will reveal yourself so that justice may be done. And in the Christian life repentance.

Repentance is key. Repentance means that we turn away from our evil ways and I'm praying that's exactly what happens here. This individual will turn from the evil that has been perpetrated on our families and realize the wrong that they have committed.

And my hope is my earnest hope is they will find renewal in a person called Jesus Christ who we have covenant with my Baptist. And it's so many of other of our churches around here that have been praying for our families for our children know to be true that he is the way the truth in life.

And for this individual even though I believe justice must be done in this moment that is the way he will truly be set free.

Yes Brent Leatherwood in that particular clip from the news conference over a year about a year and a half ago was very upset. That part I think it was a year and a half ago I don't think I'm mistaken on that.

He was very upset that Audrey Hale's manifesto part of it was released by Steven Crowder and he's upset that an officer could leak this today. Brent Leatherwood said nothing about the situation. He's just you know I guess I'll say something but he hasn't said anything yet.

I would think he would. Apparently this was obtained legally though I don't know how that's possible. I don't know what they did but it certainly takes some bravery to do this and to confirm that this was anti Christian bias.

This was someone who hated God. This was someone who was angry at the world. This was someone whose mind was diseased by leftist propaganda who sounds like they're not just mentally ill but there's an evil there that that seems demonic that that needs to be known the people that we would never have this conversation if it was I think a quote white supremacist shooting or something that fit the narrative something that the left could use to further its goals.

This wouldn't be the case but it's been. It's taken two years over two years to get this some of this stuff released and there's still more. And if we're gonna use equal equal weights and measures it really should not take that long all right.

T James Boone says I think Leatherwood understands he has way less political capital than he did before and is in hot water after barely hanging on as the ERLC president. That may be true maybe he won't weigh in but I just think it's really sad.

I think Southern Baptist out there just need to think about this. Why if that's what it was if we're just hiding that there's anti-christian bigotry that this person's mind was diseased by the left and that thinking then why was this suppressed.

Why was this such a secret. Why shouldn't we know about this. What is he trying to cover for or hide. That's my question. So that's what's going on today as we speak. Any comments on that. I really have much more to say about that particular issue but figured I would start out talking about that since.

That's what a lot of people are talking about right now. I want to talk a little bit about abortion and the Trump. I've talked about this before Trump's campaign whether pro-lifers or anti-abortion people should vote for him.

But let me just talk about this a little more here. So I found this the other day. I've actually shared this on the podcast that I didn't remember doing it but I found this. It says pro-lifers I've had absolutely zero status on the subject of abortion until I came along.

Now this is Trump. So there you know it's Trump and this is back. When was this from. Does it say this was from. I think back in April he says for 52 years everyone talked but got nothing. I got it done.

There would be no talk of a six-week ban or anything else without me Roe v. Wade allowed the killing of a baby at any time including the fifth sixth seventh eighth ninth month and even after birth. They therefore are the radicals not us.

And now because of our Supreme Court victory the power has shifted and for the first time those fighting for the pro-life movement have been given tremendous power on this issue. Before our victory they had nothing and they will will have nothing again if we don't win elections like Ronald Reagan.

I believe in three exceptions for rape incest in the life of the mother. You have to follow your heart but without the exceptions it will be very hard to win elections. The six-week ban on abortion among other things like this like his fight against Social Security and Medicare killed at the DeSantis campaign.

So this makes sense of what just happened. I saw a lot of people just saying this was that that Trump was waffling right. So you had a rose come out and say Trump is gonna vote for this bill in Florida that will allow abortion up to the point of birth and or he's gonna I should say yeah vote for it.

And and then the next day he came out and said he was voting against it and then people were saying oh it was a pressure campaign. You know pro-lifers or abolitionists but mostly abolitionists I think we're saying is we put enough pressure on to make this happen.

Okay you know it's hard to know what you don't know. I don't know what the private conversations were but the thing is Trump. I watched the videos again. Trump actually never said he was gonna vote for that particular bill.

He what he did was the reporter came and asked him the question and he just started talking about what he wanted to talk about and saying that he got Roe v. Wade overturned and that's what everyone wanted and but that he thinks that there six weeks is too short that against women should be allowed to kill their babies more than six weeks which is a pretty terrible thing.

But but he never said one way or another what he was gonna do. He just he gave a critique of of DeSantis I guess and the Republicans in Florida. But he never actually like came out and said that what he was going to do and then the next day he comes out in the really the pro-life position or the more he votes with the pro-life lobby we'll put it that way.

So when you look at what Trump said though over the last few months and really his entire presidency even before he became the president Trump's always been pretty much this way. He has a very strong sense of friends and enemies.

The pro-life people were his friends so he did a lot for them and personally this was never his thing. It's kind of amazing that he went to bat for them so much to be quite honest but based on what he said there in the post that I just read from back in April his actions are pretty consistent.

He wants to win elections. He doesn't see this as a winning issue. He's he wants to. He thinks DeSantis is in the wrong and that's what killed his campaign is he's like to pro-life. Basically he doesn't want to be like DeSantis and he's he's against the radicalism of the Democratic Party though.

So he's got this this position. That's not. It's not necessarily consistent. That's really what it is. He's trying he's trying to find a place where he can keep the pro-life people voting for him and also expand the base because that's the only way he thinks he can win.

So I don't see I'm not even convinced that there was any pressure campaign to get him to change his mind I it just seems like that's what he was doing. That's the whole time what happened over the weekend wasn't really anything new in my opinion it's consistent with what he said and so for people to act like this is brand new that all of a sudden Trump is switching his position.

This has been his position and and so the other thing of course is that you have some people on the abolition side of things mostly abortion abolition that are well everyone's really concerned. I suppose it's not just abolition types but it's it's anti abortionists of every stripe I suppose are concerned about IVF and some of the ethical issues.

But there are. I found this out because I posted something the other day about Italy's IVF law. I said Italy's IVF restrictions include bans on egg sperm donation surrogacy and pre-implantation genetic testing.

Only heterosexual couples can access treatment and single embryo transfers are required. This is because they have a high Catholic population. It's also worth noting that in Italy IVF typically ranges between 4 ,000 and 7 ,000 per a cycle.

Now and then I and then I later on after people were already interacting I said hey Donald Trump if you're successful in getting your IVF proposal can we at least have at these ethical regulations like Italy's or have regulations like Italy's.

And can we find out why IVF is so much more expensive the United States and other countries and seek to correct it. So you know I don't think Italy's laws are necessarily perfect and I'm not an expert on them but I I just you know I read the basic regulations that they have and it's much superior to what we have.

And one of the comebacks I kept seeing over and over when I would bring this up in conversations private conversations is that well no IVF clinic would do this. It's too expensive because what they want to do is they want women to have you know produce as many eggs as possible so then they can fertilize them and and have the greatest amount of chances of you getting pregnant and that kind of thing and they have to discard the eggs that are defective and and and these kinds of things from the clinics perspective they want you know high numbers.

They want high success rates. But the thing is in the United States you know the bottom level for IVF I mean it's probably like nine or ten thousand dollars. I mean you can pay 20. I've heard of people paying like thirty thousand dollars for an IVF cycle four to seven thousand in dollars.

Well you know what in the world is going on that Italy can I don't understand I don't know I haven't looked into it maybe someone else knows but but yeah so apparently you they still have IVF clinics they still have these strict regulations and it's somehow cheaper.

So that's something I think that someone should probably look into. But there's a cartoon that's been going around. I've seen this for months but it's going it's making the rounds right now as Trump of course I think is making a very foolish move not just morally but also politically.

He wants to outdo the Democrats or I don't even think it's outdo them. He wants to head them off at the pass because they're claiming that he's anti IVF that his Republicans are gonna be against IVF. So what does Trump do about it.

Trump says I got this plan to fund IVF. The government's gonna fund it we're gonna pay for it now. This is terribly. This is not conservative right. And what it does is it'll infiltrate your own people.

It'll put an idea in their head that they didn't have before and make it think make them think like oh yeah we can do this as Republicans and that I think the chances of that going through are very small in a Trump administration.

I really think it's late-stage campaign rhetoric to try to get the Democrats off this talking point but down the road. I mean you've just said it's okay you've just told your base that this can be part of the Republican plan and of course that's not good and of course under the current without restrictions the way that things work currently.

Of course this is going to be an ethical nightmare. There's no doubt about that if you were able to get something like that pass which I don't think you would be able to in fact I think someone like Kamala Harris is much more likely to go down that path and not just put IVF into a single-payer category but everything you know and it's so that people you know end up getting that and any other medical procedure they want including an abortion without for free essentially you're paying for it but so you know I don't buy that like Trump's so much worse than come the Democrats on life issues and stuff because of this plan.

But it is foolish in my opinion it's not a good strategy. I think that as it's a short-term thinking it's short-term thinking. That's all it is in my opinion. So it's a big concern but here's the here's the cartoon and I want to go through this because I think this will be helpful to think through what are the ethical issues here.

I've talked about this before but but since this is.

The Ethical Problems Attached to IVF, Not IVF Itself

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Ethical dilemma presented and it is a real one oftentimes in these clinics you they have a room somewhere to go and they will provide I know this is hard for some of you to believe but they will provide pornographic materials and those kinds of things.

And of course that is wrong that's evil but I suppose I would say that that's not necessary and I being as less descriptive as I possibly can be there's no reason that a married couple a Christian married couple let's say that the wife could not participate in this process and there would be nothing evil going on.

We'll put it that way and I'll leave it there but but that's the first ethical problem now really the conclusion. I'll tell you the conclusion I'm coming to here. There are these ethical dilemmas but at the end of the day the the framing that we have right now is that IVF is the problem right.

And this is a very hard thing because there's multiple ethical dilemmas in the way that IVF is typically done in the United States and it's the things attached to it right. It's the things associated with it but those things probably need to be identified rather than just framing it like anti IVF which is what the left wants us to do so badly.

It's probably better to frame it in terms of in this case anti pornography right. So that's not IVF. That's pornography right. The two often go together in many circumstances but they don't have to. That's actually it's separate from IVF.

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Okay so second ethical.

Dilemma right here is having someone who's not one's husband. So a woman who isn't married and wants to just a lesbian couple for example they can just have someone who's not even part of the relationship donate sperm and then they can get pregnant.

And of course this again is a problem ethical problem. But the problem is this is having someone who is not taking responsibility who is not in a covenant with you donating their sperm. Now they're not having a physical relationship directly but they're you know it's really the same endpoint there.

There's a sexual that you're you're making them part of a sexual process and and so this creates a problem. This creates an ethical problem to get around or to to navigate. And it doesn't again though this is an IVF though.

Specifically this is the way that IVF can be done with and they'll probably get to it later. But surrogates and in this case sperm donors that aren't actually they don't take any responsibility for the offspring as with.

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A baby in a petri dish. Now again it doesn't have to actually be this way. It's not even IVF. It's the ethical problem here or the it's a health problem. I suppose too is pumping someone with all these hormones and over producing eggs so that you have a surplus of eggs that cannot be used.

So where are they going to go. If they're not used is the question. They can be freezed and they can. If they're fertilized then you have little humans. Now you have embryos then they can be discarded and that kind of thing if you're not going to use them and so this creates a problem again though.

That doesn't. You don't have to overstimulate someone. For for IVF. Right. This again something that's associated with it but it's not directly intrinsic to it. Truly.

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Dilemma. What. It's similar I suppose. So I was just already describing it but discarding unused or unwanted embryos that are that have let's say Down Syndrome or something like that. Well that again isn't IVF.

It's not the procedure. That's the problem here. It's not the science. It's not IVF itself it is the discarding and so this is often associated with IVF and they often go.

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Reduction will take care of that now. This is an interesting one for me when I was looking at this because this would be part of not necessarily a I mean you could introduce one. Right. I just said in Italy they have regulations on how many of these embryos can actually be introduced into the womb.

So but if you you know if you put eight in there I actually I'm just scratching my head a little bit on this after the octo mom thing that was like a decade ago. I don't know I don't know what clinic would put eight into a mother's womb.

This this one this just seems far-fetched. I'm not sure what this is about or why they put this there but I would say this because I think the ethical thing that they're getting at is that there's a reduction that happens and it under natural conditions.

Right. It's estimated. I just looked this up that some estimate at least that 70 of embryos fertilized eggs embryos are that there's a reduction that happens just naturally. You never hear. But the difference is I think with IVF.

You're more likely to know about it especially before these fertilized eggs. These embryos make their way to the womb. So you know how many were implanted even after they're transferred. The embryos are transferred to the womb.

So I this is again it's the same thing as everything else. Though I just said it's not IVF directly. It's introducing too many fertilized eggs or embryos. It's also I would say parallel to what happens naturally out there there's you just don't know about it.

So I don't I don't see this as like an ethical issue with IVF directly. These are all indirect ethical issues. Okay let's keep going.

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Gift. Okay so it's horrific there's no doubt about it. That's horrific again though donating them to science that doesn't have to be done obviously. What was the other thing. Let me go back here. Okay freezing.

So freezing is another dilemma and so this is one again this doesn't actually have to be this is an IVF directly again this is indirect this is freezing but if you if you're not doing a fresh transfer with your with your embryos and you have let's say you you have more then you can safely transfer something like that you have a situation that develops for whatever reason then they an IVF clinic they will they have freezers set up.

I don't know if the clinics have these or if they if they outsource them or where but they they have a these cold freezers that they will put your embryos and and they can store them either fertilized if it fertilized eggs so that would be the embryo or they could have some unfertilized egg that's not fertilized it so they can store both the chances of them risking them in a dethaw all right which they're not getting into this but I'm assuming that's where it's going.

That's why I'm giving you this information the chances of that happening are like it's around 1 it's very very low. So I found when I was researching this that there's a lot of pro-life groups that have old data when it comes to this and they'll say things like 85 or 80 it's not like that much anymore so I don't know why that is I guess the science has improved or something but you can there's two ways I guess to think about this one is no risk is worth it so that this this is wrong.

You should never freeze embryos. If that's the case then you have to measure that against the the womb. If you've retrieved eggs from a woman's womb you do a fresh transfer. The womb can also be since there's been a surgery somewhat of a less welcoming environment so there's also a risk there that you're gonna have some some selective reduction a greater chance of that so you balance so those that's at least possible but another way to look at it this is the second way to look at it.

So so in that in that first line thinking where you're you're looking at the odds you can justify the freezing as well that's it's a greater chance a month down the line or something because the womb isn't as welcoming right now or you can say actually we're just gonna let since it's in the body we're gonna do a fresh transfer let nature take its course and whatever that low chances of because they're not compared to natural natural reduction.

My understanding is there's really not much of a difference but but you can if your conscience bothers you on that then you can take that road that way if anything does happen you are not. It would be the same as if it happened under normal conditions a sexual encounter and process.

So so this again the freezing thing is not intrinsic to IVF but it is often associated with it and it's probably I'm sure in Italy there they have freezers just in case because if let's say a woman has more eggs than they expected and they may have to I don't know but yeah so I don't know what the regulations are on the stimulation here in Italy but they you can put all the regulations you want on it and sometimes things happen that you didn't expect but whatever happens build.

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Life or anti-abortion people when we talk about these things I think we need to be super specific and clear and in a the political scenario that we're in right now we have a problem. I think as believers we really do when we start when we just have a blanket sort of anti IVF stance and we don't identify the specifical specific ethical issues then it for the couple who is married who is navigating these things in the most ethical way they possibly can they're going they're not going to understand what you're saying.

And there's many Catholic couples and and Christian couples who have used this process and they are in the pro-life movement and some of them are you know are in more abolitionist circles. I know this because I've had some of them tell me so I and none of them want people to know from what I can tell with the people who have who I'm friends with who have told me this none of them want others to know partially because of the way that they're treated as a result of this.

And so my recommendation is on a political level we can make the case what Trump did was wrong or the policy that he wants to pursue is wrong that under current circumstances it would be better if someone could flip a switch and make all IVF go away because of the gross ethical violations that are happening all over the place.

I mean there are freezers full of these fertilized embryos going nowhere these these these zygotes little little humans little humans. And and that's a wrong thing. But it's not specifically the IVF procedure it's all the things associated with it attached to it that according to that cartoon at least are the problem so all right.

Well let's uh let's move on here we oh man there's so much that we've already we're already almost an hour in and I have so much more to share with you and I'm not even sure what. Maybe I'll save some of the stuff for tomorrow's podcast that I want to talk about because I want to talk about Russell Moore.

I want to talk about Whitehorse in. Let's talk a little bit about some of the pushback I've gotten for various things. So so a bunch of people I shouldn't say a bunch I could count them on one hand so like four people reached out to me and said hey Owen Strand his he's saying apparently he mentioned me not just me though he mentioned Joel Webb and he mentioned a bunch of guys in a podcast he's going after you and I haven't heard what he said but something along the lines of I'm I'm a big bad I guess pro-slavery guy or something like that.

So I I saw though so this is them. So I I saw that he had I guess posted this it came across my feet that he had posted this podcast and I guess I was just a passing thought there was a bunch of other guys like Steven Wolf and others he was going after but it led me to consider something that I have been considering since the days of by seminary time at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary where I was routinely told I was white and this was bad.

What being white not a good thing being white you gotta diversify. You got to make sure your elder boards are diverse. You got to make sure that you're reading authors who are not white. You got to make sure that you're attending churches that are not white.

Why isn't it more diverse in here. Right. But the people who always said this to me almost without fail I can't think of an exception lived in the whitest areas and if they were black and they because usually it was black folks I'm sure there were other ethnicities but usually it was it was black folks or white folks.

If they were black and they could afford it they weren't in the hood I'm just telling you they were and they were attending your majority white churches in town and I always thought this was a curious thing all this diversity talk well I decided to make a.

Little video didn't take me that long so here it is all right. So for those who.

Have not seen this or are listening because I know that some people who get this on the playback on the podcast that's audio I first give quotes from these guys. So David Platt says it's a problem when Christians in the United States are the most resistant to refugees in our communities.

God's brought people from those places to our doorstep where we live. David Platt. And this is actually recent. This was going viral online and then I show where he lived. He was in Vienna Virginia. And one of and and one of the whitest areas in Vienna Virginia Virginia is over 70 white anyway.

Danny Akin. Theology is best in community and not only in community of white culture but in community of diverse cultures and diverse ethnicities. And of course Danny Akin right there in a very deep white area of Wake Forest which is also almost 70 white and southeastern very white.

The student body there we have then JD Greer we must all intentionally form relationships with people outside our comfort zone on all sides. To not be intentionally intentional means to be intentionally non-diverse.

And JD Greer now to his credit it's it is majority white but it's not quite 50 in Durham because there's there's a there's an area in Durham but JD Greer doesn't live in that area. JD Greer lives in according to white pages a very white area.

So and then we have Owen Strand if and this is I guess this is what he had said when he was advertising the podcast apparently where he critiqued me and others. If your neighborhood gets less white should that freak you out.

Jesus is our identity not keeping nations or neighborhoods white if your suburb changes demographically view that not as a threat but as a gospel opportunity. All right. Well where does Owen Strand live.

Yeah in 70 white. Conway Arkansas and and not just you know you can see there's the black section and there's where Owen Strand lives pretty far away from it in a pretty white area. So someone told me after I made this like oh he's back in Louisville so I asked is he in the ghetto.