TLP 350: Mama & Papa Bear Apologetics | Hillary Morgan Ferrer Interview, Part 1

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It's because these beliefs are seeping into the way our children think so it's like we've kind of been content to direct what our children think but not how they think and So the way that they think it can actually lead them to really bad conclusions

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Welcome to truth love Parents where we use God's Word to become intentional premeditated parents.

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Here's your host a .m. Brewster What do you do when your kids ask why does

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God hate gay people or What's truth or exclaim as Aaron Rodgers recently did that quote?

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I don't know how you can believe in a God who wants to condemn most of the planet to a fiery hell What type of loving sensitive omnipresent omnipotent being wants to condemn his beautiful creation to a fiery hell at the end of all of this

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What do you say if? Had a good answer then whether you know it or not.

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You're using something called apologetics If you wish you had an answer, you're going to need apologetics

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I've been following the mama bear apologetics podcast for three years and I cannot say enough about this ministry and the ladies who run it

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I'm really sorry It's actually taking me so long to finally have them on the show But God's timing is perfect and I'm very excited about the content of our episode today

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In June of this past year the mama bears published their first book entitled mama bear apologetics

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Empowering your kids to challenge cultural lies. I snatched it up last summer and loved everything about it

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And today I get to tell you why Now what's really cool is that I have someone here to help me explain it to you the general editor and the original mama bear

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Herself Hillary Morgan Ferrer will be joining me to discuss the book But also dig into the fourth chapter of the book in greater detail.

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Why the fourth chapter? Well, you'll have to wait to find out Hillary is the founder and mama bear in chief

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She feels a huge burden for providing accessible apologetics resources for busy moms

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And honestly, I think dads can be equipped and are equipped just as well by her resources I know that I definitely have by reading her book and by listening to her podcast

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She has her master's degree in biology from Clemson University Her specialties are in scientific apologetics critiques of the

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Darwinian mechanism Dealing with doubt and identifying causes and solutions for youth leaving the church

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She and her husband have been married for 12 years and minister together as an apologetics team in the local church

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Lastly, this is very interesting extremely important her bio on the mama bear website provides this very helpful information

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It says she can never sneak up on anybody because of her chronic hiccups, which you can hear occasionally on the podcast

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So, please help me welcome apologist and hiccup aficionado Hillary Morgan Ferrer Thank you.

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That's probably the most original introduction I've gotten I like originality And Hillary, please know that this is a very safe place.

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All right I am an understanding husband of a wife with chronic hiccups. Oh you are yes

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Yeah, I don't know what it is. But man, oh man, it is a it is a cross you to bear

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I sometimes I don't even hear it anymore It's just so it I just kind of see the reaction on people's face and I'm like, oh

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I must have picked up Like I'll listen to when I listen back. I'm like, oh, I don't remember that. But yeah, so well

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We'll make sure I'm thinks that's cute. And that's you know, so that's that's all that matters Well, make sure to leave all of the hiccups in because they're providential and it's kind of like Selah, you know in the

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Psalms Okay, it points to something. We're not sure what but Oh, yeah All right now man, we're already falling apart here this is this is gonna this is gonna be an amazing interview now, okay

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I know I just talked about it But I would love to hear from you personally about mama bear apologetics and specifically how

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God led you to start the ministry Well, it was kind of funny He led me to start the ministry because it well

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I have to say it was absolutely him leading because there's no way me as a Non -mom would have ever thought.

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Oh, not only was I a non mom I've never participated in women's ministry And so this was not something that had been like this childhood dream of mine to start a women's ministry

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I always said that I would never live in the med with Midwest. I'd never be a teacher. I'd never get an advanced degree

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I would never write a book and I would never start a ministry I'm sure there's a couple other ones there.

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But basically my life has been a series of all -nevers You know as I sit here in the

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Midwest as next teacher Talking about my women's ministry friend and the book that we just don't don't say

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I'll never just it I think God has this great sense of humor and you're just inviting it when you say

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I just yeah So I've started like I'll never be a millionaire So, yeah

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It was it was several years ago when I had found out from the person who had originally started at the time it was

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International Society of women in apologetics and She had said that there wasn't a large demographic of women out there who would not read something unless it was written by women for women

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And that came as a real shock to me just because I kind of always been in a man's world

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I was sort of a daddy's girl And so I was real comfortable being in in a man's world in essence

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And so when I found out that there was a large like why aren't women more? Interested in this and I and I discovered this demographic that just really didn't like to read stuff unless it was written

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By women for women. I thought well goodness who's who's reaching the women here and more importantly than that Who's reaching the moms?

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Because I think the moms are just such a key demographic to training kids up in the faith and they are doing so much already

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It's like we could make a thousand youth apologists or we could reach a thousand moms and it seemed more efficient

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So I kind of go for the moms themselves. Yeah So basically I had a series of nights where I couldn't sleep and I've since learned that this is

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This is how sometimes maybe if the Lord's tried to say something before and I'm not listening that he's like fine

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You can't sleep and keep till you get it all written down So I just it was knocking through my head this phrase mama bear apologetics mama bear apologetics

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And so finally I got up and I was like fine I'll just write this down and but then I started writing down more things and before you know it like through About three or four nights

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I just had an almost entire notebook full of what I wanted to see this ministry become and so after the end of that I was like, well that just happened and so I just try to find a friend who wanted to start it with me and so Grabbed a friend and we went out and learned about microphones and started learning how to podcast

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It took us about a year before when we actually started and when we actually advertised the ministry

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Because actually I think was more than a year. It's like a year and a half Because we didn't want to like point people towards a website that didn't have anything on it

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So we kind of wanted to have at least some of our ducks in a row some content up there And then we started publishing and it was really well received

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Within a few years. I had a publisher asking about you know we'd like a book from you and So it's just kind of snowballed from there.

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That's really awesome. And how many years has it been since you started podcasting? so Trying to remember

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I it was either two thousand. It was 2015. It was like Spring of 2015 and I don't think we went live till August of 2016

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So I got all confused when we made t -shirts what what you know how they have like that Established date.

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I'm like do we put 2015 or 2016 so I just put 2015 because that's when we started if not the ministry publicly

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So well, that's really so yeah, because I got yours. Yeah, I thought you guys had started When you did you did start before we did but yeah our first episode went out

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I didn't I was not as wise as you I we basically recorded and posted and then read an article that said you're supposed to like let out three of your first episodes at One time and all this other kind of stuff and I didn't do any of that.

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So we we started in September of 2016 So it's our podcasts are kind of the same age.

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It's cool. Well, yours is more mature though, but that's Yeah, so yeah, that was that was the month after we went public with stuff awesome would be

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September Now before we talk about the book any more detail I do want to tell you listeners that Hillary and her team are really awesome and well for lots of reasons

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But specifically they have given TLP two copies of the book that we're going to talk about today Mama bear apologetics empowering your kids to challenge cultural lies

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We're gonna give away those two books next week and we'll tell you later in the show what you have to do for a chance

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To win your copy. So stay tuned to that Now Hillary first. I want to thank you. I want to thank you

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Julie the other Hillary TC Rebecca Catherine and Lisa for investing so much time into this book.

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I Personally just loved reading it because it was not only overflowing with solid biblical content

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But really and I use this I use this word honestly Okay it was about as scholarly as a book like this should be not how scholarly as it could be but as it should be

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I Read and I listen I read and I listen quite widely when it comes to content for women

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I think I'm probably a guy who listens to more mom podcasts than moms do I Love what they do.

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I love the passion and the motivation behind most of what they're doing But often I find that it kind of lacks writing chops.

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I'm not trying to be a mean, you know There are a lot of guys out there who are doing a terrible job, too, but they lack writing chops.

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They lack clear research They they lack enjoyable tone and really the erudite handling of the topic that appears in the mama bear book

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Okay, it's all there For those of you who are listening I think if you've ever read any Natasha Crane stuff and Natasha is like an honorary mama bear herself

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If you like the tone and the voice of her book, you're going to love this book. So thank you.

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First of all for that Second though, I'd love to hear really what motivated you to co -author this book

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So you've started the ministry you had a publishing house say hey We want you to do a book and I'm really if we're being honest

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I'm sure it's a culmination of a lifetime of God's working in you the things that you've learned and how he's equipped you but kind Of give us the highlights of of how this particular book came to be

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Well, ironically this part I I didn't have a vision for this book like at all at first I had a different book that I really wanted to write and that was what

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I actually Presented to the the publisher at the time and they said we think that would make a great Second book and as soon as they said that I thought they're gonna ask me to do a mama bear book first and I was right

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They wanted a mama bear book. So I just kind of started thinking about what books were already out there and What I what

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I felt was lacking because I didn't want to go and just write somebody else's book and just have a second identical book out there and Natasha had just gotten done with I think her the first two of her books

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The second one might have been really close. I did an endorsement for the second one So I got to read that one early So I kind of knew and I knew where her her other ones were going so I knew

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I didn't want to duplicate that So I actually had a conversation with Natasha first to find out let me make sure

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I'm clear on what you're doing, so I'm not duplicating your efforts and Really what we landed on or what kind of what

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I landed on I had several different ideas But it was this ideas this idea of we're looking at the questions

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So Natasha is really good with dealing with the questions And my question was where are those questions coming from because those questions aren't coming from a vacuum

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They're coming from somewhere And so when you start digging back a little bit deeper you discover These worldview and the isms is kind of what we call it that have

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Undermined kids abilities to have faith and that's where the questions are coming from So I kind of tried to put together some ideas and then

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I thought you know I want this to be a team effort mama everything with mama bear I want to be a team effort and So I got gathered together basically some of the ladies who had just been really

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Excited about mama bear and maybe had written some articles or wanted to be involved at the beginning and said okay

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Here's we have someone asking us for a book So here's some ideas and they looked at some of my different ideas and I think we all kind of felt gravitated towards the idea that became the final copy of this book and There was there was one chapter actually

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There were several chapters that we had to like hold down to see does this one fit into this book? there was one chapter mid writing that we actually had a scrap to include a different chapter because In doing all the research for the feminism, it became so obvious that basically we needed to address

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Marxism. So what got booted? the chapter on individualism and so I think we were able to kind of Mix that in with a lot of the other chapters is this idea of it's kind of the the

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American, you know Pulling yourself up by your bootstraps kind of it's all about Me and my mission and just this this kind of rugged individualism that has some good to it but at the end of the day it we've lost a lot of what we see say in the the

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Old Testament with Communal responsibility and communal learning and communal memory and all these other things so But yeah the

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Marxism it's like it was like this thread that started going through so many other different things that were like holy cow

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We need to address that So that's really how it came about and as as I started writing this book with them

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These topics just took on more and more of an importance that it's it was so weird how

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I just I didn't even have a vision For it at first and they just became so important to where I was saying. Oh my gosh this is everywhere and then actually the

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Linguistic theft was it's gonna be its own chapter and it just didn't quite fit. We called it redefinition alism and We thought it'd be funny to make up a word for something about people making up words

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But when I realized now that's not really a lie per se it's a tactic and so when

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I realized it was a tactic I said that needs to be in the intro chapters and Then we went got down to where there was only

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What was it? It was like 11 and that was like this really awkward number It's like really you couldn't have just made it 10 or expand it to 12 so then we had to find another chapter there, which you know, we ended up replacing with Marxism, but yeah, so I think we we really started opening our eyes up to the culture and looking at what was going on in culture and Really pulled our collective

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Observations and knowledge together to come out with the concepts in this book of what we see were the lies that basically kids were

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Eaten up like crazy. I think it started out the subtitle was 12 cultural lies and how to keep your kids from swallowing them

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But we just couldn't get good artwork for it So we ended up changing the subtitle and I'm glad we did because I hated every subtitle idea

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They gave me until this one then I was like, okay, I don't hate it. And now I love the subtitle So, oh, yeah, this totally sounds like you this sounds like exactly like something

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I'd hear on your your podcast empowering your kids to challenge cultural Lies, that's just yeah, that's perfect.

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And well, you've already mentioned a little bit of about it I really appreciate how the book is organized for those of you who haven't seen it yet I know the book has been out for a little while.

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I feel super bad that I'm getting to this so late, but But if you haven't read it, you need to read it

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I don't care when you're hearing about this if this is 300 years in the future read this book There are two main parts of the book

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Okay so the first lays the Foundation for being a mama or Papa bear and then the second part deals with this panoply of as Hillary said isms okay, and these isms are plaguing our society and the world views that are desperately trying to Like you said persuade our kids eat our kids alive really at every turn and you've mentioned a couple of them but you deal with feminism naturalism post -modernism moral relativism

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Marxism okay, and a bunch more and I can see that I can just imagine in my head when I say that a lot of today's listeners may struggle just a little

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Bit with these topics because they sound like collegiate classes. Okay. Well, that's why we gave him a punchy little topic laugh first and then had they wanted to maybe take the whole thing out, but I was like No, we can't we originally had it to where the the ism was first and then the subtitle but we finally agreed to switch it, you know, so like The truth is there is no truth.

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That's the post -modernism chapter. Yeah. Yep My brain is trustworthy according to my brain our naturalism chapter so we we try to make give things that would make people laugh because it can be kind of What's the word not heady but like oh the topics can feel a big word

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So we're like I got to make them laugh because then then they'll see that there's nothing to be feared here

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You just need to learn how to you know, get that little bad critter lie out of your vocabulary exactly

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And I think you make it accessible. I think it's I think it's there are Funny tones. I think they're the stories and the illusions and the metaphor you use are fantastic and I just want

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I want to address this because I Think it's really easy, especially in the church Lots.

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I mean, I guess it's hard to say that you said the church nowadays and what does it even mean? Right, we'll talk a little bit more about that later

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But yeah, I think I think the problem is at least in the circles in which I've grown up You know you you're talking about God's Word and you've got

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Bible quiz teams and everyone knows the scriptures, right? And that's fantastic It's absolutely necessary. And if it's of the world, it's it's just patently rejected which oftentimes is not a bad move

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But sometimes we're so completely ignorant of it that you know Marxism Yeah, you know probably most people listening.

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No. Okay. Well that has to do with Karl Marx, but what did he really believe so They might people might have a hard time understanding how these isms could be super practical for that average

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God -loving dads and moms who basically just trying to help their high schoolers graduate from high school with you know Without tanking their grades and their elementary schoolers, you know to eat their vegetables

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Okay, so can you just kind of give us a an overview about why these potentially heady?

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Maybe potentially a little scary looking isms are really very practical very important topics for Christian parents to understand

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Yeah It's because these beliefs are seeping into the way our children think so it's like we've kind of been content

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To direct what our children think but not how they think and so the way that they think it can actually lead them to really bad conclusions

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And I don't think it's enough to just teach them what to believe they need to know How did I come to this conclusion?

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I mean, that's that classic, you know question by Greg Koukl where he teaches people to have conversations with people who maybe have an unbiblical

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Worldview, how do you start dismantling that unbiblical the worldview you ask them? Oh, that's interesting

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How did you come to that conclusion? And if we're gonna be honest our kids need to be able to say the exact same thing

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They need to say how did I come to the conclusion that Christianity is true? How did I come to the conclusion that absolute truth exists?

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So if like I think that everything basically rests on the foundation of believing that truth exists basically that there are some things that are true for everyone at all times in all places because My friend

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Elizabeth Urbana wits who has something called the foundations curriculum foundation. I'm sorry foundations worldview curriculum

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She knows the exact week that parents and youth pastors and principals will start calling her

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Which is the week on truth when they discover that none of their kids believe that some things are absolutely true for everybody

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Wow, and to not be able to even believe that something's true for everybody That is the foundation of the

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Christian message of saying that God is absolute who he says he is and his word is absolute

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But if you don't believe that that absolute exists That's a problem and that's an that's easy pickings for the enemy that once that lie has taken root that nothing's absolutely true

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They may be you know Ra ra ra at youth group and think yeah, you're great mom for being a

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Christian But maybe that's not my truth once they get older. My mom's been teaching me her truth.

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Not the truth and The mom's not even aware that this shift has happened until the kid says

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I don't believe in God anymore And she's saying what you've never said anything before and they just pat her on the head and say no

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No, I'm fine with your truth. That's your truth. Not mine And at that point they're speechless. They don't know what to do.

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Yeah, and and oftentimes you mean your kids aren't gonna know what? What maybe necessarily what naturalism is they might if they you know, if they're going to a public school

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They might not know what Marxism is. But here's the thing all of these isms are Filtering into all of the entertainment that they're consuming their music their shows their movies the books that they're reading

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It's it's absolutely everywhere there. It's it's coming through the the vocabulary of their schoolmates and of their teachers.

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So Understanding these isms is desperately important because it is influencing

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Everyone and how we think and how we respond to what other people are thinking. So yeah, this is super super practical

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Yeah, no, it is and I'd say I'd say like the naturalism The kids are really believing that unless you can repeat it in a science lab

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Then you can't really know it for sure and that's good by God I mean like that that discounts basically everything from the

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Bible or One of the things that Julie noticed she was the one who did a lot of the prayers for the book is that I think it was her me and and Rebecca noticed that a theme throughout all of these was idolatry.

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It's this idea of something that we're replacing For for worship with God. So like TC's chapter on self -help ism.

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We have replaced the gospel that the The gospel of Jesus's life death resurrection and salvation from sins

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We've replaced that salvation as being oh, I need to have self affirmations and that's how

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I'm gonna feel better about myself or As in Marxism like what is original sin if you get original sin wrong you're gonna get the solution wrong every time and original sin within Marxism is capitalism and it's being presented as a whole complete worldview and as a salvation from your sin of capitalism or in feminism's

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Point the patriarchy that's original sin and we see that in our culture everywhere It's toxic masculinity.

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Our world would not be where it is If we just didn't have toxic masculinity, all of these things are what they're saying.

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I can identify one major problem It's the biggest problem and it's this and this is how you get saved from it.

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And that is what our kids are being fed Yeah, and I actually let's let's talk just a little bit about one of the ones you mentioned the whole

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Marxism thing this is huge because You know, we're coming up on an election and people's political

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Ideologies are coming out and we have lots of words being thrown around You've got socialism and some people are being called communists

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Other people being called Nazis and we got you know, we just all of this stuff being thrown around But that's actually the one thing I discovered that everybody agrees on.

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It's like being a Nazis bad That's the only thing our whole world can agree on But this

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I but Marxist ideologies are out there and they are present in our political debates today okay, whether you know that they're

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Marxist or not and One of the things I thought was interesting when I was studying this and I love your chapter on it

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I love anything that reminds me of college and my university experience because I just really enjoyed that but You know and I taught economics on high school level for a while, too but from a

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From a Marxist standpoint they their whole the whole foundation is built on the fact that they deny the reality of sin

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Human beings are getting better. We're evolving It's you know, the naturalism and all that kind of stuff is all part of it, you know, but we're getting better Whereas it's interesting that capitalism comes at it from the standpoint

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It says that capitalism is gonna work because we sin Because you only care about you and I only care about me capitalism is gonna make sense

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Whereas on the other side Marxism socialism communism all kind of stuff are coming in and saying no We're getting better and we're gonna come to this place where we all care more for each other than we do for ourselves

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And it's that one fundamental disagreement that if we buy into that we're we're completely

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Denying what the scripture says about man and their sin. Yeah, it's is man But it basically good and Marxism would say yes and Christianity says no

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We are not basically good and I think like you said capitalism is based on the fundamental principle that man is not basically good

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And therefore we need to have some way to kind of reign him in and even though we don't get super political with that chapter

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I think that's a really excellent point that does need to be made and this would be one of those foundational isms

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This in this case, it would be humanism that That it is it's starting off That's where that whole that whole foundation worldview foundation is is starting off instead of man is basically sinful

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It's man is basically good. That's a pretty big problem to ignore. No massive Now I really appreciate

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The time that we've taken here looking at this book if you are if you're listening right now I originally and this happens to me it happens to me on nearly any every interview

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I do There's just so much great content We get talking and talking and talking and next thing we know all our time is gone

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But there's so much more to say now what I what I want to do is this I want to wrap up our discussion about The book bring an end to this show

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But I'm gonna bring Hillary back next time because we're gonna dig into chapter 4 of the mama bear apologetics book and we're really gonna

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Look at it because as I promised you a few weeks ago, I want to talk about our family's vocabulary

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I want to talk about how we communicate with each other because I think that if we're not careful

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We as Christians are going to lose the battle that is being waged in this war for our children and it's going to hinge a lot on Vocabulary that might sound crazy to you that I would say it that way but I hope you join us next time because I want

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Hillary and I to really dig into Chapter 4 and to figure out what this thing is that she calls

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Linguistic theft now before we sign off for today, though. I'm curious Hillary What's the best place that our listeners can connect with you guys?

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There's a couple different places. We have a An email connect on our on our website at mama bear apologetics comm on Facebook we have a page and just Twitter and an

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Instagram now, I do have to say that we have started getting a lot more emails

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Since the book has come out and so we I do my best to answer those as well as I can but I can't always get to every single one of them, but Yeah, so those are the the four main ways

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I guess would be email Twitter Facebook and Instagram. Yeah, actually don't don't message me on Instagram Yeah, I probably won't see it there

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Well, we will include all of those links as well as the link to mama bear apologetics

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Home page in the notes today in the description so you guys can find that. Thank you so much Hillary for Talking about the book helping us really

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Thank you for dedicating the time to do what you do to equip us parents To really help our children be able to argue for the truth of God Now for those of you who have stuck with us through the end of the episode

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I want to tell you how you can earn a chance to win a copy of mama bear apologetics empowering your kids to challenge cultural lies

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Lord willing on Thursday April 2nd 2020 team TLP and I will conduct a drawing

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I will then announce on Friday show the names of our winners now this is very similar to the drawing that we have going on with Natasha Crane's book and you can learn all about this at Truth love parent comm underneath our resources tab on the book giveaway page

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But between now and then you have three ways to get your name into the drawing I'll explain them here And of course,

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I'll include detailed instructions on today's episode notes at our blog taking back the family comm as well

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Now you may be saying Aaron it came out in June. I already own the book. That's fantastic I invite you to participate as long as you promise to give away the book to another parent

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This can be an awesome opportunity for you to invest in your parenting community Team TLP and I have devised three ways to get your name into the drawing

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Over to Instagram. We will have an image featuring the cover art for this episode and the hashtag contest

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All you have to do is make sure you're following TLP on Instagram. Click the heart under the image Comment on the image telling us what one word you wish we could steal back from the culture and Then click on what looks like a paper airplane icon and share the image to your story

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But make sure you use the hashtag linguistic theft After that, your name will be submitted a second time into the drawing now.

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Why are we using the hashtag linguistic theft? That's not what we talked about today. You're right, but it's gonna be all about what we talk about the next time

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We're going to start off a three -part communication study and it's gonna jump off with Hillary again meeting with us next time to talk

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About chapter 4 for book linguistic theft and that's going to be the hashtag that you want to use for this contest all throughout the week

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All right Once you've done all that there's a third way to get your name into the drawing if you have a Twitter account

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Make sure you're a follower of at truth. Love parent I think you're definitely seeing the trend here find the image with the contest hashtag and click the heart

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Then select retweet with comment for your comment. Tell Twitter how TLP is helping you to be a biblical parent and that's it

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Again, you only have to do one of those to be entered However, if you do all three your name will be entered three times

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Anyone can participate as long as they have followed TLP on their chosen social media platform

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Like the post comment on the post share the post and use the hashtag linguistic theft

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Using that hashtag is very important because that's how we're going to be able to find your submissions and enter you into the contest

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So make sure your spelling is accurate. You have all week to share the contest episode We'll tally up the submissions on that Thursday and then we'll announce the winners on Friday's episode

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Please share this episode on your favorite social media outlets while you are there I know that everyone wants to read this book

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Trust me You just do and join us next time as we get back together with Hilary Morgan Ferrer and talk about chapter 4 of her book linguistic theft truth love

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