Black Hebrew Israelite Challenges Andrew

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Happy New Year. How are you? I'm watching, what's that? You didn't burn anything down for the new year? I'm watching the nation burn itself down right now on the news.

Yeah, there you go. Clay says, good evening from Texas. So, I don't know what his name is, but at least now I know he's from Texas. So I'm just gonna look up every single person that lives in Texas. By the name of Humble or Clay, right?

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So I was gonna say, that's kind of a website that has gotten rid of all of us, hasn't it?

Yeah, pretty much. So, I'm over on Parlay, if you want to find me there, that's where you can find me. And I'm on Parlay, as some say Parler, but Parlay. Just look for at Andrew Rappaport. All right, so what we want to do tonight is talk about Black Hebrew Israelites.

Let me play how this started. I played this for you, and you kind of thought this was funny. There was some things in this that I think were, it had been entertaining. But for those who don't know what Black Hebrew Israelites are, what they believe, I see someone that just says, Facebook user.

For folks on Facebook, on apologitalive .com, there is instructions on how to get your name to show up in StreamYard, so that we could put up your name like that. And this is, right now, Pastor Michael, he's, I was just on his podcast, the Clergy Talk podcast, talking about interpretation of scripture.

And so, FullBellyBear is asking, where Vocab Malone is? Well, I wonder if I can say where he is. You know, he didn't tell me that I couldn't. He didn't tell me why, that I couldn't say why he can't make it tonight to join us.

But, so maybe I should just say, what do you think? Should I just spill the beans? Yeah, I think you should tell everybody. Okay, so Vocab Malone's working on another book. And so he is busy doing that, and not being able to have much free time.

Sure hope he wanted that known. Hey, if not, everyone's gonna have anticipation in looking forward to another new book. Although, I hope this one's not, you know, titled with Barack Obama. So, you know, one of the things we wanna do is, let me give you a quick overview of what black Israelites are, what they believe, and then we'll hopefully get this gentleman on.

I have had a history of debating folks like this that believe this on the streets, but it's very hard to get them into formal debates or to get them to come on to a program like this and actually discuss their beliefs.

So I actually, I said to Pastor Justin, right, I told you before we came on that I wasn't sure he was gonna show up. And he's trying to come in. He's just having some problems with the computer. So we hope that he'll be able to get in shortly.

So in short, what black Hebrew Israelites believe is that basically there's a verse in the scripture in Deuteronomy 28, verses 68. Let me read that for you. And I'm gonna read it out of King James specifically because many black Hebrew Israelites, I'm just gonna call them BHI for short, but many BHI do hold to King James-only-ism.

And so I will use King James-only. Sorry, I will use King James-only for this program, but, or maybe not only for this program, but this is what the passage says. "'And the Lord shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships by way whereof I speak unto thee.

Thou shalt see it no more again, and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.'". And so what they end up focusing on there is that it says they will return into Egypt again with ships.

And so basically, oh good, Humble Clay is saying vocab already broke the news. So he thinks I'm good. All right, so basically what they do is they focus on one word there, the word ships. And what they do with this is they will say that this is a prophecy of the African slave trade.

So we'll spend some time dealing with this first, I'm sure. The idea that you're gonna have with this is that they will say that they are looking at this and seeing that this is the only time that they believe in history where you have examples of the, a slavery where people are being enslaved and they're coming in by ship, okay?

And so this is the argument, and they say that this is a prophecy of the African slave trade. Therefore, the Africans that were in the African slave trade were Israelites, okay? So that's the premise.

Let me, this'll be a little bit funny. FullBellyBear says, hey, Andrew, do you find that most people who say they will debate you end up chickening out? Actually, the answer is, yeah, it seems to be that way.

What, I'm just this lovable FullBellyBear, you know? Why does everyone wanna cancel debating me? I don't get it. All right, so let me play the message that we got. And for those of you who know, who are regular here, you know that my name, it's actually on the bottom right here, is Andrew Rappaport.

What's that again? Andrew Rappaport. Okay. And so it, then now I do have, I will say, I have done two debates on black Hebrew Israelites. It's on our YouTube channel. And it's really kind of interesting.

The first one, we had three BHI guys that were going to debate me. So three on one. That was almost fair. They might've needed a couple more people. When you're armed with truth, you know? But what ended up happening was they blocked me and the guy that was moderating it after we set it up and we didn't know what to do.

So I actually told the moderator, I said, let's just, let's do it. Let's do the debate. And what ended up happening was, is the moderator was like, who are you gonna debate? I said, don't worry, just introduce me.

Let me do my opening. And then let our guest introduce himself. And so that's what he did. And when it came time for the guest, I put up a picture of an empty chair. And I said, after a year and a half of having dozens of people challenge me to debates, this is who showed.

And so, yeah, that actually got the desired effect because afterwards I actually had someone that did set up a debate, was willing to debate me. We did a debate. I thought it was a good debate. And what ended up happening was interesting was, after we did the debate, I got a whole bunch of people saying that this guy wasn't really good.

He failed. I needed to debate them. Of course I invited them on, but again, they never showed. So this was the voicemail. And remember, my name's Andrew, but you'll get a kick out of this.

Yes, I'm trying to get in touch with Mike Rappaport. In reference to revelations two and nine and revelations three and nine. I don't understand it. And also do the Romney chapter 28 verses 15 through 68.

I'd like to understand those. And Mr. Rappaport, he should be able to explain it. I heard he was a scholar.

All right, thank you. A scholar, scholar, scholar. Yeah, so there you go. So my name is Mike Rappaport.

Hey, Mike, how you doing? I haven't seen you in so long. Yeah, I gotta figure out how to, I changed my name on here, but it's not showing up down there.

Oh, Angie got it, Angie got it. Revelations.

Yeah, that was one of the things, it's revelations or revelation. I thought it was revelation, is the revelation of Jesus Christ. So I was gonna try to, I couldn't skip my name to show up as Mike Rappaport.

That would have been funny. But so he wanted to discuss there Deuteronomy 28. Now he, I will give credit. He says verses 15 through 68. Okay, most just wanna focus in on 68. He's trying to come in, but we can see him coming in, but so we hope that he will get in.

It is kind of interesting because I'll point out some things just so you notice. I can already see how this is gonna be. I actually found out who Full Belly Bear is and I'm gonna hear this for a while.

I have a feeling. There you go, how's that work for you? You're mega-host Mike Rappaport. There you go, that's great. What we end up doing is, and I see him trying to come in. Hope we can figure this out.

But he wanted to learn, is how I think he said it. He wanted to understand, I think, understand the references in Revelation 2 .9 and 3 .9. So let me at least start there and look those passages up. There's one phrase that's in both of these and then we could spend some time until he gets connected.

We'll spend some time in, let me go to Revelation.

Yeah, there's no S on the end, just to be clear.

And the reason there's no S if we go back to chapter one, verse one, the revelation of Jesus Christ. So that is why this book is called Revelation, not Revelations. I don't know why people make it a plural, but so there's one phrase that appears in both chapter two, verse nine, or sorry, chapter two, verse eight, no, verse nine.

And then in chapter three, verse nine. So chapter two, verse nine says, I know the works, I know thy works and tribulation and poverty, but that are rich. And I know the blasphemy of them, which say they are Jews and are not, but are of the synagogue of Satan.

And that same phrase is gonna be in chapter three, verse nine. I'll read that. Behold, I will make them the synagogue. I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, but are not, but do lie.

Behold, I will make them to come to worship before thy feet and know that I have loved thee. So the term that you see twice here is the term synagogue of Satan, okay? You also see in both passages that this is defining people who say they are Jews and are not.

So let's break this down and until our friend here can get in here, which we're hoping that that works, but he was trying to set up, we were trying to get his mic working. So basically what you see here first off, this is written in Revelation two and three are written to seven churches that existed at the time of John.

John not only wrote them, it's actually kind of interesting if you look at the way that the letters are written, there's a, basically it'd be the way, kind of think of like a post office route. That's basically the way these letters were written is if someone was gonna deliver them and drop off the first one, the second one, just as he's going.

I like what KT I think has it right there. It's not, it meant to be Mike with MIC, Rappaport. Yeah, that's probably what he's trying to say because it shows, you know, uses a microphone. So leave it to KT, she's got it.

Oh, I like what Humble Clay said here. Hold on. Let's put this one. Humble Clay says, it's a Paul Jack's live day. One of my favorite days of the week. Oh, you know what I forgot to do, my friend? Oh, you should slap me.

It's not Thursday. Huh? It's not Thursday? Yeah. We got a review and we didn't start with our review. Let us get Oh, we don't do that. What was I thinking, my friend? We are just all over the place.

So we got a new review and we would love to hear your reviews if you want to leave us a review. And the link to leave a review is just lovethepodcast .com slash ApologeticsLive. And both A and L in ApologeticsLive are capitalized.

So we got a review, a five-star review, no less. It must be because of you, Pastor Justin. From Al. Yeah, it says, great podcast as always. This podcast glorifies God. The last few shows on Grace Fellowship Church have been eye-opening.

I am so thankful that this cult and false teacher are being exposed. Praise God for men like Andrew and others who are part of Apologetics Live. So that's a review that I forgot to mention. You should have gotten on me.

What are you doing, letting me out? No, we have a friend that has said Happy New Year's.

Yes, well, he's happy. He's happy because we are going towards socialism in this country and he likes that. Yeah, yeah. So I think that makes him a happy camper.

So I want to show you something real quick. I'm going to pop it up here. Let's see if it'll pop up. Let's see. There it is. Let me pull that banner off of here for a minute. I don't know if you saw that, but this is who was hiding in the background.

So that looks like some sort of actor. So the picture on the podcast, what Justin put up is a picture of people that stormed the Capitol. And you put someone obviously photoshopped in, but I have no idea who.

You don't know who that is? That's Nicolas Cage for the National Treasure movie. He goes into the White House and he steals the Constitution. Okay, so.

Yeah. Back to work. Because I'm so pop culture literate, I obviously knew that. Yeah, okay. So here's what we want to do when we look at this. As we look at this text that we were looking at with Revelation 2, 9, and 3, 9, in both these cases, you're having to look at this and see that this is speaking about people who were alive at the time that John was writing.

This was written to these specific churches. So right off the bat, the one thing that we would notice is that, oh, he's saying, can I call in? Unfortunately, that's the thing with live streams. There's no way.

This isn't like a Zoom meeting. I'm thinking he must be giving up and not be able to come in. That would be bummer, dude. We will have to work with him during the week if he can't get in and see if we can work this out.

Yeah. I'd really rather have him in here. Well, I'll continue the way we're going, Justin. I'll just continue on. And if he comes in, he comes in. If not, he might need to figure out a way to get hooked up.

So one of the things when we are gonna look at scripture is we gotta look at who this is being written to. So this is written to people who were alive at that time. Now, the idea that you have here is the synagogue of Satan would be, the idea of it is that this is a synagogue of people that are unbelieving Jewish people who were persecuting or going after the Jewish Christians.

And what you end up having in that is you end up having a case where there were those who would say there, as if you look in Romans, not all Israel is Israel is how Paul would argue it. And what he means there is that not all of the nation of Israel is spiritual Israel.

Now we talk about this in theological terms for those who study theology, or if you've got my book, What Do We Believe? And you read the chapter on the church. You know that we talk theologically about the church being the visible and invisible church or the local and universal.

And what we mean by that is the local visible church is the church that meets on a regular basis. Yeah. They meet weekly and that they meet together, but we really don't know who's saved and who's not saved.

Okay? We'll also speak about the universal or invisible church, which is made up of believers and only believers everywhere in the world. So every believer is part of the universal church. These are just theological terms that we end up using.

Now, as we look at those terms, most Christians do not apply that same thinking to Old Testament Israel. This is where I think we see a distinction between what, Justin, what you and I would know of as covenant theology and dispensational theology.

Yeah. We would be more in a dispensational camp. And what you end up seeing in that is I would end up seeing that that same type of positioning that we have for the church we have for Israel. So we often refer to national Israel.

So we have national Israel and spiritual Israel. Natural Israel, like the local churches, is made up of believers and unbelievers. They're visible. You can see them. But those that are spiritual Israel are like the universal church.

You can't really see who they are because we can't see who's really a Christian or not, or can't really see who's the spiritual Israel or not because we can't see that. We can't see within what only God can see of the heart.

And so what we end up seeing is that there are people that were of the nation of Israel that are not spiritual Israel. Now there are some, like Paul, for example, like me, for example, that are both spiritual Israel and national Israel.

Okay, now the guest would strongly, strongly, strongly disagree with the idea that I would be of Israel, but sorry. The way you actually determine genealogies is, you know, we have this in the Bible. You know, it's those passages, Justin, that most people don't wanna focus on.

Yeah, yeah, the sleepy passages. Yeah, so-and-so begot so-and-so begot so-and-so begot so-and-so. That's how you figure out genealogy. So how do we know that Abraham was a disciple and descendant of Moses?

Well, we'd go to see Abraham and who is his father and his father and his father till you get back to, you know, get back up to there. So if we wanna look at, was Jesus of the line of David? Well, we would go back and back and back and back until we get to that genealogy.

That's how you do that. Now, the issue that I would have when you look at this is, is it even possible for people in the African slave trade to be able to do such a genealogy? The answer is no, not for most.

Now, I'm saying not for most for a reason. There are some, and, you know, Alex Haley would be an example. He's the author of Roots, where, you know, when Kunta Kinte was captured and kidnapped, which the Bible condemns, and brought over to this country as a slave, to him, it was so important that his children knew where he came from, that he taught them.

And they taught their children and their children and their children. And so we end up having, and our guest is saying that genealogy is a joke. Well, genealogy is actually how we do these things. Anything else, claiming you're of a line any other way than genealogy would be a joke.

And so he wants me to speak about how I converted to Judaism. I didn't convert to Judaism. I was born in Judaism. I was born to Jewish parents and was in Hebrew school from the age of five until 14.

So you don't know anything about the Hebrew beliefs and customs and you're a novice.

Yeah, nothing at all. Yeah. Yeah. I had like 10 years of Hebrew school. It was enough. I couldn't wait to stop. But here's what you end up seeing, is that the way you determine a genealogy, so if someone's in a certain line is through the genealogies.

That's actually how it's done. So what you end up seeing is when you try to take, and we're gonna get to the Deuteronomy passage, when you try to go to the Deuteronomy passage to say, well, that's a prophecy.

The problem with doing that is that's okay if it would actually apply to you. Now, so we'll start with the Revelation passage. We know that the people that John is writing to were alive at the time. We know that the people at the time were of a synagogue.

They claimed to be Jewish people, but were not. And so the thing that you end up seeing with it is that the argument being made that the people who claim to be, and this is gonna be the argument he would make if he was in here, I'm sure, is that what would end up happening is that you see that this is speaking of the Jewish people that claim to be Jews that weren't black.

Okay. Now, is that what is being mentioned? Well, the reason that they're called a synagogue of Satan from the context is because they attack the church. So that's the context. Now, he's gonna argue very quickly, I'm sure, if he was, you know, he's probably saying this in his, you know, wherever he's at right now, he's saying, that's because I keep going to this thing called context, Justin.

That's not how we read the Bible. In fact, he did say that in our, let's see if I could at least bring up some dialogue that we had, he and I. I said, he gave me the verse I'm gonna go to, Isaiah 28, nine and 10.

And, you know, I told him that he needs, you know, to read that, because he told me, I don't know how to read the Bible. And, you know, he, it was also interesting, he was telling me that, I guess that I speak Yiddish and he doesn't understand that Yiddish is a mixed dialect between German and Hebrew.

The Hebrew that most black, and some, for folks who don't know, black Hebrew Israelites will say that they speak Hebrew, but the Hebrew dialect that they often speak is a dialect that started in the 1950s, 60s in Harlem, New York.

So that's, it's not the dialect. So, and he's actually posting it here nicely. He's telling me, you know, Isaiah 28, 10, but he has that in the comments. But when I told him to read that in context, I said, read that context, it condemns exactly what you do when you read things out of context.

I said, all I ask is that you read line upon line. And he said, he said, you are the devil. It's, it states law upon law. So let's read it. And it says, Isaiah 28, verse nine, whom shall he, whom shall he teach knowledge?

And whom shall he make to understand doctrine? Them that are weaned from the milk and draw from the breast for precept upon precept, precept upon precept, line upon line, line upon line, here a little, there a little.

Now he stops there. And what they always focus on is here a little, there a little. And what they say is the Bible wasn't meant to be written like a novel. Well, actually it is. It exactly was meant to be written like a novel because it didn't have chapter and verse breaks.

Those come about till 800 AD. So for 800 years of the New Testament and about 2000 years of the Old Testament, and by the way, Isaiah is Old Testament. So Isaiah was written 750 BC, add another 800 years to that.

And you're at 1500, 1600 years that Isaiah would not have had any chapter breaks or verses in it. So to say that this was somehow teaching us that we should grab from over here and grab from over there and slam these together, by the way, proof texting.

Yeah, proof texting one verse at a time. I found that as you were talking about it, I found it interesting when you start out in Revelations that when he starts saying that this is for his group, the context of it is actually spoken of in the chapter and the verse just before he's using in Revelation.

Yeah. The very context of it is to the angel of the church of Smyrna. And Smyrna is what we'd call modern day Turkey. It's not down in Africa or whatever, it's in Turkey. Let me see if I can pull that up.

But it's actually what's modern day Turkey. And so for the application of that, it's not speaking of Africa or it's not speaking of an ethnic group in Africa that came over. It's actually speaking specifically.

And first context means something and it means something to everybody, whether you like it or not. It starts out talking about Smyrna, and yes, we can extrapolate that there's a type of church that's in Revelation that we see, but that does not negate that there is the starting point of the true Smyrna that he's talking about.

Well, and he's in chat saying that we are from Israel. So let me try to put that in the context, what I think he means, because there's a couple of different views with BHI people on this, but they would not have an issue with that with what you're saying there.

Some wouldn't. Some believe that the Israelites were in Israel and during the Babylonian captivity and the dispersion, they came down into Africa and that's where they ended up. The Israelites then stayed there.

Now, some will say that that happened after the 70 AD. So I'm not sure which camp he might be in. So he might be fine with you saying that Smyrna, because, and it's not Africa, because that wouldn't be, he's saying, now he's saying who migrated to Africa.

Well, if the Israelites left the land of Israel and went to Africa where they got kidnapped, they'd have to have migrated, just simple logic. And folks, this will be the thing you'll see is that a lot of these guys don't apply logic, simple things of logic that would help them in understanding, and you'll find that a lot of these guys are stuck in a belief system that is thoroughly racist.

Now, I don't know which camp he is in, but there are some that I've dealt with on the streets that actually, and this might help us to understand, when you saw people during the Black Lives Matter protests where they had the whites kissing their shoes and licking their boots and things like that, and a lot of people didn't understand that.

But if you understand this, some of the BHI groups, they believe what they're looking forward to is their end times view is that the whites will be their slaves. And that is what they look forward to, not all the groups, but some of the groups.

And those would then feed into what was going on during those protests. So we're in Isaiah 28. Now, this is important, because this is gonna be a core thing. If you ever talk to people that are Black Hebrew Israelites, and sometimes they go by Hebrew Israelites, they drop the black part.

And so what you end up seeing in there is the case that they will turn to this passage in Isaiah regularly, okay? Because this is a core underlying belief that you take the Bible, you just grab from one section here, one section there, and you put them all together.

You will find that very rarely will they take a passage and read it in context. He's saying, white Hebrew Israelite is you. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me check. Hold on, I'm gonna just check something.

Let me just check. This is a white piece of paper. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not that white. Okay. I gotta ask you a question. I'm just a Hebrew Israelite. Go for it. I gotta ask a question.

So I posted this just a second ago, and I don't know his name. So Mr. Hebrew Israelite.

Well, hold on, hold on. We have him telling his name. I'm not gonna play what his phone number is, but here, he'll tell us his name.

Yes, this is God's chosen. So there, now you know his name. His name is God's chosen.

Okay. Yeah, I mean, I did. Wanna ask him, is that what his mother named him out of the womb? Yeah. I mean, was she Mrs. Chosen and she named her son God? Because that would be kind of like blasphemy. Well, see, here's my problem.

I mean, I hear the arguments, the straw man and everything else, but he started out when the discussion began here with genealogy as a joke. I posted it up here. So how is he appealing to your whiteness or my whiteness or his lineage from coming down from Israel, Africa?

This all has to deal with genealogy. So either it's a joke or it's not.

Well, here's what I think is a joke when it comes to genealogy. The Africans in America will almost universally believe that they're all from Judah, which is a genealogy thing. How did they get there?

They're all from a line of the 12 tribes. They're all from Judah. It's interesting because I'm trying to remember, I think it's the, is it Dan that is in Jamaica? They have different areas where like Dan is in like Jamaica and Haiti is Natalithi, I forget who's where, but each of the 12 tribes were captured.

So here's the thing that do we really believe that kidnappers, slave traders were so concerned about keeping the genealogy together that they said, oh, you're of the line of Judah, we got to ship you to America.

Dan, you have to go to Jamaica. So they say that they know, and I've heard this from many of them, they know they're of Judah because they're in America. And somehow it's us who don't understand genealogy is a joke.

I, you know, but I digress. So let me get to Isaiah 28 here, because if our friend were to read this in context, read it the way Isaiah meant it to be written, the way he wrote it without the chapter breaks, if he was to back up a little bit, let's read the context here.

Start at verse one. There you go. Woe That's a good place to start. Yeah, yeah. Woe to the crown of pride, to the drunkards of Ephraim, whose glorious beauty is a fading flower, which are on the head of the fat valleys of them that overcome with wine.

Behold, the Lord hath a mighty and strong one, which as a tempest of hail and a destroying storm. So far, this doesn't sound like a positive thing. As a flood of mighty waters overflowing shall cast down to the earth with his hand, the crown of pride, the drunkard of Ephraim shall be trodden underfoot.

And the glorious beauty, which is on the head of the fat valley shall be fading flower. And as the hasty fruit before the summer, which when he took, sorry, which when he that looketh upon it seeth, while it is yet in his hand has eaten it up.

In that day, the Lord of hosts be for a crown of glory and for a diadem of beauty unto the residue of his people. And for a spirit of judgment, judgment, for a spirit of judgment to him that sitteth in judgment and for strength to them that turn the battle to the gate.

But they also have erred through wine and through strong drink and are out of the way. The priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink. They are swallowed up of wine. They are out of the way through strong drink.

They error in vision. They stumble in judgment. They stumble in judgment. Okay, so this is the context here for verse eight. For all tables are full of vomit and filthiness. So there is no place clean.

That's not a very pretty description here. And that is just before the passage we read here in verse nine. Whom shall he teach knowledge? And whom shall he make to understand doctrine? Them that are weaned from the milk and drawn from the breast?

For precept must be upon precept. Precept upon precept, line upon line, line upon line, here a little, there a little. For with stammering lips and another tongue, he will speak to this people to whom he said, this is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest.

And this is the refreshing. Yet they would not hear, but the word of the Lord was unto them, precept upon precept, precept upon precept, line upon line, line upon line, here a little, there a little, that they might go and fall backward and be broken and snared and taken.

So they use this passage. That's actually a passage of judgment. Okay, and they take just, they want just the one phrase, here a little, there a little. But if you're going to look at that, it says precept upon precept.

So you take the concepts upon concepts, you put them, you build them upon one another, but line upon line, huh? Line upon line means reading in context. Ooh, ooh, that's the very thing they say we shouldn't do.

Absolutely. The verse actually says that the way they're interpreting it is incorrect. Now he's telling me I will be judged by the way. Oh yeah. He's saying, you do not know Jewish people. I don't know what word that's supposed to be.

Our synagogue of Satan. Yes, context, law upon law. The Jewish people today, people who are Jewish people are not the synagogue of Satan that was spoken there. Why? Because we didn't live that long.

Well, it actually says in verse seven, that's why I pulled it up. Yeah. But they also have erred through wine and through strong drink out of the way, the priest and the prophets have erred. Talking about Isaiah, it's not talking about those that traveled or those that migrated or whatever else.

Isaiah is condemning the prophets and priests of Israel who have fallen away from God. And it's the people of the Jewish line, not the whatever line he's trying to make up here.

Yeah. He's saying we're Amalekites. So let's deal now with the one passage that universally, I think all black Hebrew Israelites hold to. That's this Deuteronomy 2869 passage. This is, it's kind of actually sad that they all look to this and try to use this as a prophecy.

One, because they can't stay consistent with their own interpretation. Two, a second reason that you end up seeing that this is a problem for them because they don't understand history. So let's go through this and see if we could figure out what this passage is saying to us.