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I'm speaking of none other than Michael O 'Fallon who is founder of sovereign nations

and we're discussing the controversial theme the castrated church and a world

of Virile enemies of Christ.

How did those Paul called more than conquerors become less than spiritual eunuchs?

We're also going to be talking about an upcoming conference.

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speaking roster and it's actually next week In Manhattan, and I'm hoping that

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But it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to iron sharpens iron radio Michael O 'Fallon

Tell our listeners about sovereign nations

Whatever you're comfortable giving we do have a two -hour show so he could give the long story.

Actually in

these meetings

was the

guy

going

by

the

way.

I just

heard

this

with a

bunch

of

Chinese

leaders

over

here.

I heard the same thing.

Why are we talking about this with a hotel or travel group now?

And it's well, I heard these things in the Christian faith.

With other leaders to

talk about a change to do about it.

We got on board.

You were going to be able to have the carrot if you will if you're not on board.

Things aren't going to work out for you.

You're going to get the stick and this is going back 12 15 years ago.

When I first heard about these things and as I basically became convinced over a three

four year period from around 2009 2012 that they were actually serious.

They were going to do this I broke ties with most of those clients.

I still tried to convince some of them that this was a bad idea.

But come around 2016 into 2017 I could see that there was nobody else that was going to do anything about it and That

would be that they were going to first start basically with an ideological attack on the United States.

And on Western civilization as a whole not just within the Christian Church.

But with even

then

booze

ideas

that

be changed

and

we must have

a reset

in

Florida.

So with

trying to

complain

to be

happening.

So in many ways some folks look to be like I was chicken little at a

skeptical like okay, Mike.

Well, yeah, you probably should get back on that medication.

People tell me that all the time.

Yes, and I went back to them.

Many are reset

if you will in 2020 explaining what would happen how it would happen.

What the purposes.

Are he

talking to him especially back then and him knowing actually?

Who I was spending time with promptly convinced him that something was going to be

happening eventually.

Back

up understanding where this was all going.

Oh, yeah.

He was blown away about the accuracy of your predictions and.

Began to put a lot higher trust and some of these.

Spectacular things you were talking about.

Well, you know, but you

could use the word prediction.

People have said oh you have a prophetic voice like no.

I was in the room.

I read the material.

You know, I was right.

Was there they were talking about these things if they were going through PowerPoint presentations and so forth.

Yes, anybody who knows you knows you're a cessationist.

I said everybody who knows you well knows you're a cessationist.

I guess I'm more the James White side of that of that sort of thing.

But

yeah, you

know, I

was a lot

of

them anything about it.

It was meant to be with the end

goal.

Of course what they wanted

to get form of government government

if you're thinking that you want to get away from.

People being able to be really those that are you know in the United States that we

that we are

the ones that they want to wipe all of that out

both here in Europe and so forth and.

So if you're wanting to fracture

the entire nation you want to fracture.

What you want to do is you want to make sure that you Create a counter hegemony

hegemony, which would be the cultural.

Whether that be by faith whether that to shatter that you

want to break it into a million.

You've broken it into a million pieces.

Then you mold it back into actually

undergoing and as I saw

ministries In denominations where

you had and as well they were starting

to you had revoiced of living out.

Why even organizations like Tim Keller?

The Gospel Coalition and even nine marks started moving, you know

slightly in some of those directions back then.

There's no denying this by the way.

Most stuff is 15.

Dr. Moller. Al Moller gets up and basically makes the homosexuals were born that

way.

Which is a great departure for always talk with the Christian faith.

So you're creating a counter hit hegemonic of

a new catechism without it actually being put in stone yet of.

What things we are now going to and no

one was willing to fight against this.

I know that there was a an attack on Bode Bachum in 2015 at the

time to speak conference.

Maybe Anna Weaver lay was there at Stetzer and at Stetzer is

the panel was there and it was basically a four -on -one.

On Bode.

And then how did that manifest itself?

I mean were they on the stage together or how is that happening?

Yeah, they were at a stage together and basically you had Bode.

What you don't want to do now is is is to create a counter hegemony.

To try to break up what we believe in the church.

And he started to you know, of course.

At Stetzer went to W. E. B. Du Bois and so forth his ideas.

Concept that Bode for the most part tracked right with them and tried to shut all that down.

And they were having none of that.

That was basically the end of a lot of the speaking tours that Bode Bachum

was doing at the time in the United States.

And then maybe just recently after that maybe six months or so to a little less than a year

James White was attacked.

Our friend James

was attached like

that all went after it was

what's going on.

This is what I've been talking to you about so forth.

But he had Bode on his program like this is much bigger than just being accused of racism when you said nothing

was racist.

It's much larger than that sovereign nations.

As my first

conference people couldn't make heads or tails with because I invited yes James White.

And then I also invited folks like ambassador Alan Keyes who I've been talking about this stuff for 12 years.

Yeah, I was at his one of his fundraisers when he was Running for president with

the Reform Party.

Yeah, I mean can't allow like what

he ran against Barack Obama for the

Illinois State Senate.

You know he he was trying to explain people how serious this situation actually is.

This is Marxism.

That's coming in.

By the way he had he had the best by far comment during the Republican primaries when

he was running against George W Bush.

When I don't know if you remember that televised primary

where the question was asked of all of the candidates what.

Who is your favorite philosopher.

And George W Bush feeling very bold

in his Christian witness said well Jesus Christ is my favorite philosopher and.

There was some applause.

I think.

And then Alan Keyes said to him Mr.. Bush Jesus Christ is God.

He is not a philosopher.

Alan Alan understand and one of my best friend

Alan I've been thrilled

he's been someone that I could talk to about things that were happening with international politics

as well as national politics and To be able to just really try to work through things to make sure that I'm not getting

off on something.

Is he still a state of a contest?

I.

Right because I was just saying that.

Because I'm praying that his Obvious questioning of the status quo of Rome

may God willing lead lead him to embracing biblical truth.

Well, I

study of Mary or

about the

church's authority as full authority.

The claims of the papacy.

We've been round and round and round about a lot of those things and consistently over the years

and

call

coming in.

But helped me to be able to Really kind of center myself and understand

that.

I wanted Alan to speak to from a national

in 2017 as well.

I had a Unknown guy come in that

I flew in.

His name was dr. Jordan B Peterson and at the time nobody really knew who that guy was.

A few people did you know?

I know summer white Summer Jaeger now knew who he was but I Had

him come in to do the lecture called the Marxist lie of white privilege.

Now I had this conference on October 31st

2017 and I did that on purpose.

Because what we were looking at was the need for

Concept or idea to happen with all society because what we were heading into is radical subjectivism

in everything.

You have actual

scholarly other

articles coming out of Ivy League schools trying to prove that two plus two can equal five.

This sort of thing was going to be happening in everything all the so there

had to be an understanding.

What

this really

was listen to the

three media

social many

times

and

different

the church is

simply as that you have

25 people Sundays and then as well on

Wednesday nights where people come and take notes and they're involved in life of the church.

But they look at them as a way to reach people to sell them on the idea.

That we need to transition out of this national concept that we're in right now.

This is why you have this emphasis on Christian nationalism.

Yeah.

Yes, no,

go ahead.

You could

finish your

thought what they are.

That's what's happening about their governance.

Don't bring that to me to try to criticize me because I really want to uphold the Constitution.

I really want to make sure that we have a nation that we can hand down to the next generation.

That day is well -conveying that

perspective.

I'm

not

a theonomist the conscience to believe

the years

and really what we've done.

Really start to get to know each

other is because we were

holding

and

moderating

to be

five years later.

You just simply don't have that anymore in our society.

You don't have real true debate.

All you have is this descent into ad hominem?

So there has to be a fight there has to be a recovery of truth of objective truth

in the Christian faith.

There needs to be recovery of What is true and why is it true exegetically?

Yes, I believe the first time I could be wrong I think the first time I met you

was when you were in the audience at the Trinity debate that

James White had with oneness Pentecostal Robert Sabin and Patchogue, Long Island.

Was that correct or no?

Oh, wow, Peter Stravinsky.

That is probably the most infamous of all the debates.

Yeah, that's where the notorious question from an evangelical in the audience

to Peter Stravinsky's when he tongue -in -cheek

Said I heard that you can buy your way out of purgatory.

So my question is Who do I make the check out to and how much do I make it for.

And there was laughter, of course and And Stravinsky's said which I think

even shocked Catholics in the room.

He said hey pay now or pay later.

Yep, and Then he when James White put that excerpt of the

debate in full context I think there was at least five minutes or more

content before he said that and after Stravinsky's still threatened to sue James

if he continued to Publicize the hat clip claiming it was being taken out of

context and it clearly wasn't and it got nowhere the.

James said I'm not taking it down.

So do what you need to do and never nothing ever happened

with it.

Yeah.

Well, oh when

he

was Debating in Bayside Queens.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

I think his last name was Parker with a p was

common back then.

What you did, right?

Well now there's this new morality that

the expert technocratic approach

to things.

They're the ones that are right and as you can see

Wildly into another it there

is within four to five months because it's not about what's true and to reach the goal of

Reach the goal of ending a problem.

The goal in the end is operational success and whatever actually defines that.

Crises are going to be made and then those crises that result in

Started

the

crisis

or

revolution.

It's

like

what we

did

years ago.

We thought that everybody that was in reformed evangelicals and that was their main intent.

Well that we just went through this where there was basically the attempt to try to bring in a neo -marxist revolution

into the church into the reformed evangelical church.

We've kind of been able to stop it or at least bring light to it and so forth.

So those

guys they

well, maybe you

did have a

small wall around it, but it wasn't expensive.

But that's where you would do your damage.

You could really move there.

But the Mott of course is the capsule Mott and so forth you run back up into the Mott when the

Bailey is penetrated by the The opposing forces where you can shoot down arrows.

So maybe in fact, let's pick up right.

After the distinction between Bailey and Mott because we have to go to our first break right now and.

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And right before the break you were Comparing and contrasting the Bailey and

the Mott when it comes to a castle and you were applying it to.

Situations in our day today if

you could

pick

up where

you left

off in the Bailey you could mess etc.

You could expand the ground became you would retreat up

into the Mott and then fire down from there defensively well in many ways that is a form of

Argumentation and debate and.

So what will happen is as soon as the adversary and for us truth

about what was going on with the push?

That were really strongly in their Bailey for a while retreated back

into their Mott and Usually what you could do in terms of identifying it is they would use a phrase

like well, it's not critical race theory.

It's just because You would always hear that preface was with and there

would be it's just that we care about making sure we have a diverse Church.

Or it's just that we care about race relation like it's just that we you know.

So that was a transitionary period of them going into the Mott that eventually they would

come out with a statement.

Against all the things that they had been doing for the past eight to ten years and pushing.

And then wiping wiping their

website if

you could go back.

Now and some of it what preacher clips and

other things that we've done.

That you will see that my gosh all of them were involved with this when I say all of them I think primarily members

of the gospel coalition members of the Southern Baptist Convention members of the Presbyterian Church in America.

So you would have folks like like Ligon Duncan.

Basically reshape reformed theological seminary to have their kingdom diversity program

to have.

These different new offices created with an RTS to address the problems with systemic racism

at such home.

And this was the big push happen at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, especially with dr. Jarvis Williams

with Matt Hall.

This is what happened.

Of course at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary as well.

It happened at Dallas Theological Seminary of all places.

With them even doing this entire program.

Picking it up a notch and that's where Woke Church at Mason.

Of course the forward to Woke Church was written by and so now all of a sudden.

You have these men who are in their mott that without repenting without coming out and saying

We were wrong.

We were wrong to do this.

They just get a little bit further down the road change their tune and then are now trying to ingratiate.

Themselves back into the church again, and as well there are organizations that are helping these men

who pushed Marxism into the church.

They're

allowing

these men to come back in

without

them

or he

doesn't

you

know

Literature

has watchman on the wall because

25 years ago trying to deal with error because a lot of times the church wouldn't

the seminaries and None of the institutions did anything about it not even the

conservative ones and sadly many of them were Participating

in it back the keys.

They okay.

Well, we trust you now now that you've changed your story.

No, we need to know what happened and why it happened.

Unfortunately, I know why it happened I know what happened.

I know

what yeah, this

is so sad because only ten years ago.

I have had some of those men that were that are today leaders

in this whole woke movement.

That has infiltrated theologically conservative congregations and

denominations.

I've had some of these men.

I've had the BT on you.

We lay on my show several times.

I've had Anthony Bradley on my show and they were saying Polar opposite things only a

decade ago.

Anthony Bradley even when I asked him, what do you think of

Those who are trying to claim that Black people cannot be guilty of

the sin of racism Anthony Bradley actually raised his voice and he said

they're morons and Then you have such a far

drift back into the very thing that they were critiquing and mocking.

It makes no sense.

Wow.

He's gone from working with now

working for the guy who's it

is that you need the former.

Quote.

Make sure that you are discriminatory towards those that actually

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with Mike O 'Fallon and One of the things I wanted to ask you Mike I know that you are not a

prophet as we've already established and you're not a mind reader.

Right, and I don't want you to impugn false motives to people.

But is there anything that you know as far as data that you have information that you

have.

That shows a lot of this Favoritism Towards these

dangerous movements the woke movement critical race theory social justice.

Do you have any idea of knowing if you could even guesstimate.

How much of this is being promoted or

Accepted or tolerated by people who are ideologically convinced that these things

are good and true and beneficial and even necessary and how much of it is

people tipping the hat to these things because they are terrified of.

What the leftist populace? Will do to them react towards them how

many people they may lose in their congregation how much support Financially, they may lose

how many speaking engagements may get Cancelled, you know, I could go on and on

and on about this.

So do you have any idea of knowing without as I said impugning false motives anybody?

I'm more talking about the churches that go from anywhere from

toleration and silent acceptance all the way to Vocally and

publicly promoting these things that I'm mainly talking about the churches and pastors.

People to change that church

and that

becoming

something

that will

fit

like a

cog in

a wheel.

Really

understand what

is

going

on?

Then you would have another level of people that are underneath them that want to make sure that they can ascend to places.

They want to get those committee appointments and so forth.

So maybe they know some of this.

They know a little bit about what's going on.

They don't have all the connections, but they want to make sure that they're at the top when the big change happens.

There's another level of people underneath that that while.

Ideas like critical race theory intersectionality, etc. Diversity equity inclusion are being told.

You might have some that kind of get what's going on and others that are true disciples of the new religion

of woken woken.

So within that group you might have

underneath that

that other

aspiring

past.

But a lot of these guys

had the

concepts of

critical what

you're doing.

It's just like how Mao did.

Mao back in the the 1960s created his Red Guard through education.

We creating a Maoist in the evangelical

church now.

We completely forgot to and I think this is a beloved tradition with many in our audience.

We forgot to get a summary of your salvation testimony.

So if you could let us know about that.

Do we have three hours or no?

Let me get

the Roman

Catholic Church

positions.

But yet there is

room for these things.

So basically you've got a Vatican to Baby kid young

man who's being brought up in the church that sees the contradictions that are there then

I went away to to university at the University of Florida and The parish that I attended

there was Already basically out

now here.

They were already kind of into the concept that it was almost Hegelian in nature

somewhat Marxist and thought Rather revolutionary in the way that they viewed things

that or attitude towards capitalism and so forth.

It came from that parish.

So I thought another parish outside of of the downtown Gainesville towards

set of agonism.

But he turned me on to an author by the name of Malachi Martin.

Eventually, I read father Malachi Martin's work I was called the keys of this blood and I really started to have a

hard time with the Roman Catholic Church and started to Question everything.

Well was during that time after college after university that I was becoming disenchanted with the Roman

Catholic Church.

I was still attending Maybe a little bit more spotty than I used to but that I started

visiting other churches particularly Baptist Church a Southern Baptist Church

my wife at a midweek

Bible

study

dependent upon

Sovereign God and I repented of my sins away from these things

I started to embrace Something that we

would kind of over

to the Bible as well.

I need to go back and explain to my family the change that

I hit for a little while.

I basically the thing

that I kept up

coming up

again

really dealt into that's

what led me I think to an eventual friendship with dr. James

through what I am seeing here

in the book of Galatians by

putting my faith and trust in Him to do what I cannot do for myself.

Repenting of my sins and trusting

him.

Amen,

and

it's such

a tragedy.

It's mind -boggling and I am speechless very often when

the snowball rolling down the mountain and getting larger and larger and larger and

Wondering what kind of avalanche we are all going to witness and some of us personally

experience.

It's mind -boggling.

We do have an anonymous listener who has a question for you Who says.

I've been fascinated by every word you've been saying today, and I am in a quandary.

I noticed some Leanings and soft attitudes by leadership in the church where I'm

a member.

They are not promoting boldly these woke Heresies,

but they're never speaking out against them or being critical of them.

I have privately approached some of the leaders and basically, they.

These issues are typically dismissed as political matters that we can disagree over.

My questions for you are first How should I respond

to those things in greater depth and second? Should I remain a member of such a

church?

Let's say if

spending time to mark his be in here in your Sunday school class and so

forth that you have a real problem is that what is coming into your church has been Gnosticism and

really creating a problem of understanding the objective truth and life

here on earth and That everything that is physical everything that is real everything that is tangible is evil.

It's a demi -urge in essence to them and that everything, you know spiritual

is the right thing that church I pray that they're not but

and it could be just that they have pressure from the top down.

Maybe they're associated with a denomination or with another Group of churches

and they're being told that this is the direction we're going.

I would suggest preparing yourself.

I would suggest reading. Dr. James Lindsay's book called race Marxism.

I would suggest listening to some of the conference videos that we've done at Sovereign Nation and

Please reach out to me personally.

Right.

We have another anonymous listener and I had a feeling this was going to happen because of the nature of the topics

the anonymous listener says.

I For the life of me have never been able to understand why so many

solidly reformed men Who are theologically and doctrinally right on the money

from everything that I have ever seen or heard or read by them Who at the same

time seem to have this loving?

Adoration for Tim Keller.

What am I missing?

Well, like you might have I

hate to put it this way.

But in many ways you might have a favorite character in a movie or a TV show or maybe a favorite.

Is that a lot of people looks

like.

The problem

is he uses

the same in his

dictionary.

But yet because it sounds beautiful and again, it's very postmodern in terms of the narrative that he creates.

That can be deadly and it can be poison.

Yeah, I actually have shared that bafflement.

Long before Tim Keller was famous.

I knew who he was I met him When he was a new

pastor in Manhattan, I was working for WMC a radio a Salem affiliate and Being the

token Calvinist.

They're the only reformed person there.

They my general manager said hey why don't you try to sell airtime to Tim Keller and

I reached out to him and met him and then met someone who was

attending there who left there because.

And he showed me the photocopy of a very lengthy letter that he sent to

Tim begging him to state clearly in

Non -vague words that homosexuality is a damnable sin

when it is not repented from and He never heard back.

So he left the church, but and of course I've even done a program On iron Sherpens iron radio

where Phil Johnson and I examined Tim's interviews

on the Veritas forum that you may have seen them.

I believe they were held at Berkeley in California where he was tap dancing

and tiptoeing around the issues of homosexuality and Basically kept saying well prides

even more sinful and that kind of thing, you know.

Uh -huh.

So very frustrating.

It's

reliable

that I can

read

about

what's happening

with

critical

theory

critical

race

theory

like Neal

Shenby.

And Neal Shenby had already

stated sure that

we that we do love lovingly confront at

first.

But we've been low lovingly confronting Tim Keller for five years six years.

Maybe Chris you you longer.

We've been confronting a lot of these these leaders in Evangelicalism for many years

and they just continued to lie and obfuscate go back into their mock get ready to jump back into the Bailey again.

And this is not finished until we actually ask them to leave their position and take back our church.

We have a related question from Robert in

Westchester County, New York.

Have you ever read the book engaging with Keller thinking through the theology of an

influential evangelical by E &B Campbell and

William M Schweitzer, I have heard it is an excellent critique of Keller.

Written in a kind fashion, but I have not yet read it

to know about Tim Keller by reading his book.

And once you understand the language that he's using and what he actually means in terms of this definition.

That's when maybe if you read something

you'll begin to see

because what Tim Keller

is doing that

are now in my

reading is not.

It's

exactly the same thing and really what you have like he.

There is Christopher Walken his

Twitter page on his.

His graphic is saying he's trying to create a new social contract, you know.

So we're going back to Rousseau here.

And what you're trying to basically create is a pre -modernity kind of mindset but what you're trying to

do is change the doctrinal and precepted that are

as you try to change the

Language the intent we have.

Ronald in Eastern Suffolk County, Long Island.

Who says these circles of ministers with whom I have

fellowship are not those who would consider themselves by any stretch of the

imagination as members or supporters or Advocates of anything

under the realm of woke ism.

However, they say that they don't address these issues from the pulpit

first because they believe the pulpit is for the gospel and Not to be

tangled up in current controversies.

And they also say for the most part that they believe this is a passing fad.

How do you respond to those things?

Another Reformation within the church.

You confront this error and you must push it out.

No different against the

Valentinian

Gnostics in the same way as

it's not just happening within the church.

It's not just an insurrection within the church.

It's also outside of the church.

Stand up confront it and.

And make sure that we push this out of our churches so far that it can never come back in.

Then.

Unfortunately, this might be a losing battle at least for our generation.

The Lord is going to be sovereign in his intent.

But we might not see that win now.

I mean we might lose a few generations to this nonsense if we don't get busy now.

What are some tangible things?

Counsel where you're actually getting involved in some nuts and bolts issues.

Where listeners where if they see a problem anywhere ranging from

apathy and silence over these things, which I am Confident,

although I'm not as knowledgeable to say this with certainty, but I'm confident that the last

Questioner Was was probably fairly correct in that the bigger

problem amongst church leaders is apathy and silence rather than

Being you know, really full -bore promoting these things, right?

But Anywhere from that apathy and silence towards the full -bore

promotion.

Either if it's churches where listeners are members or they just happen to know the pastors

personally, or maybe they don't even live anywhere near there, but they Want to somehow

contact them or or however you would recommend people get actively

involved in and being God's tools to slow down

and hopefully Eradicate this stuff from the church.

What are the nuts and bolts?

Advice or what is the nuts and bolts advice that you have?

Well,

I think

there's either

one.

You need to be the one to confront it.

Even if you're not in the church,

so you're not tripped up.

You need to have those and that this becomes something that's public.

You have to do that.

I think a lot of us are in our minds.

We're not confrontational.

We don't want to be confrontational.

You don't want to be known as that.

This thing is though in your churches in there.

But there's a lot of people in your church that will stand

with you.

Trustee at a university or seminary.

Or you're on the board of a ministry and you see this going on.

Start bringing it up start saying we need to we need to end this.

It's relentless in Understanding that if we

lose this if we allow them to continue to take over because this isn't just within the

church.

Remember as I explained to all the men that signed the statement on social justice in the gospel

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Towing the right line doctrinally in terms of what

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This is not me exaggerating.

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This is your moment.

This is the moment that the Lord has you on earth to proclaim his

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Church, or you're afraid to

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shoulder standing on top of bodies of men who died for the faith

own life for the truth and You just don't want to get

embarrassed.

You need to stand up and maybe today is that day?

Amen and now we have to go to our final break.

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Welcome back Michael Fallon, can you let us know?

Some of the specific themes That you will be addressing at the upcoming

non -conformist ministries conference on the title.

Faithful

now with these be men from New York City.

Would these be exclusively New York figures from church history or they go beyond, New

York?

Okay.

Those are

men that

really had

to

risk everything including even life and limb to be able and that that's something that

we're calling To do still today.

Maybe we thought that those eras were long gone bygone eras, but no.

Well this conference is going to be held as I said earlier.

Next Thursday through Saturday in Manhattan that is

the 25th 26th and 27th of August and

Mike O 'Fallon is one of the Speakers on the roster.

There's also going to be John Benziger pastor of Redeemer Bible Church in Gilbert,

Arizona.

There's my friend Mike Abendroff who's been on this program a number of times senior pastor of Bethlehem Bible

Church in Massachusetts and host of the no compromise radio podcast

his brother Patrick Abendroff senior pastor of Omaha Bible Church In Nebraska

is going to be on the roster David Lovie and if you have an opportunity

To have a private conversation with David Lovie after he speaks or preaches You will probably

come close to having a coronary arrest laughing because he's an extremely extremely

hilarious guy he does.

Spot -on imitations, I'm not going to say who he is impersonating on the air, but he is he's

brilliant in that area.

But anyway, I really Hope to get David on this program soon and perhaps even God

willing before the the conference.

The aforementioned Andy Woodard who is running this conference.

He's the pastor of Providence Baptist Church in Manhattan and it is one of the very

few Trustworthy churches left in Manhattan.

I mean, do you think I'm exaggerating when I say that Mike?

No, yeah, I mean, all right.

Trust.

Where the churches do you have.

I know.

Right.

And also a Brian Ottinger or Ottinger.

I have not yet met Brian director of expansion love life USA.

They will all be speaking on the roster.

And for more details You could go to the Providence Baptist Church of New York City website,

which is PBC dot NYC P is in Providence B as in Baptist C as in

church dot NYC for New York City and click on conference registration.

You can also go to Sov events comm so V standing for sovereign

events.

Calm and if you could conclude With about two minutes of uninterrupted

time where you're summarizing what you most want etched in the hearts and minds of our listeners today, Mike.

He

said

this

quote.

Socialism is precisely the religion that must overwhelm Christianity

in the new

order

to

transform.

He must your time church.

This is your time pastor.

This is the time that you stand up.

Amen folks also, please remember that dear

friends of both Michael Fallon and I I Darrell Bernard Harrison and

Virgil Walker are speaking this Saturday and Sunday at the High Point

Baptist Church of Larksville, Pennsylvania.

It is the just thinking podcast and they are going to be addressing some of the very

things That Mike has been discussing today.

Including the destructive worldview of critical race theory and other matters.

If you want to attend to this conference go to High Point Baptist comm.

High Point Baptist comm and that's where my friend Matt Tarr is pastor.

I hope that you can attend.

I will be there.

Manning and iron sharpens iron radio exhibitors booth.

Mike I really thank you for such a Extraordinary job you did today in the

program and we cannot wait so long to get you back on the program.

So, please let's try to arrange another interview very soon.

I want to thank everybody who submitted questions today.

I wanted to want to thank everybody who listened to the program.

And I want you all to always remember for the rest of your lives that Jesus Christ is a far greater

Savior Than you are a sinner.