June 7, 2016 Show with E. Calvin Beisner on “Debunking Global Warming Hysteria”

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I'm so delighted to have back on the program Dr. E. Calvin Beisner. Many of you may know the last two times we attempted to interview. Dr. Beisner. We were unfortunately having technical problems. But the lord is in our favor today and everything seems to be running smoothly thus far.

And dr. E. Calvin Beisner many of you may remember him from years ago on the john ankerberg program. But he is also a prolific writer and he is a conference speaker an ordained orthodox presbyterian minister.

And founder and national spokesman for the cornwall alliance for the stewardship of creation. Today we're going to be discussing debunking global warming hysteria. And we're also going to be Letting you know about a documentary.

That you can purchase where the grass is greener. Biblical stewardship. Versus climate alarmism. And it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to iron sharpens iron radio. Dr. E. Calvin Beisner.

A kind introduction. Okay.

And uh, well, uh that still is a position of high esteem in my regard anyway. So, uh, we thank you for being on the program. I have many friends in the orthodox presbyterian church. And I hope that my dear friend pastor bill shishko In franklin square new york is listening.

Yes, i've known bill for about 30 years at least and he was one of the First pastors other than my own after I became a born-again believer in christ. He was a visiting uh conference speaker at my Church where I was a member grace reform baptist church on long island Which actually was originally named calvary baptist church of amityville long island and uh Bill has been not only a dear friend, but an enormous Supporter and encouragement regarding iron sharpens iron radio.

Cornwall Alliance and Biblical Stewardship

Well, we've since we've already done this before but for our listeners who are tuning in And hearing you for the first time tell our listeners About the organization you represent the cornwall alliance for the stewardship of creation.

I am delighted to do about a third of the scientists Biographers physical conditions absolutely necessary how to create those and speakers three things. And really interwoven with each other with dominion.

Uh, this is this is uh men and women created in god's image laboring lovingly. Major area of our emphasis Is economic development for the very poor around the world thinking sub-saharan africa and parts of asia and latin america and this we see as Historically their society not requires some economics or yes.

It appears that your organization is very holistic and I mean that in the best sense because you Are very concerned with not only the souls of men. But the very uh physical well-being of men and just as the the book of james uh mandates that christians Uh be concerned about those things to be obedient to christ.

And uh, let me also make sure I introduce you to my co-host. Once again, the reverend buzz taylor.

Say hello to our well. It's good to be back on the air with you.

Great. Let me uh announce our email address for those of you listening who would like to Ask questions of our guest. Dr. E. Calvin Beisner. Our email address is chris arnzen at gmail .com. Chris A-r-n-z-e-n at gmail .com.

And uh, there is also I want to make sure our listeners know about a really fascinating Documentary that uh, I viewed. In fact I know that reverend buzz taylor my co-host viewed it as well. Where the grass is greener.

Uh fascinating, uh. Documentary that is just chock full of valuable information. Uh that debunks a lot of myths that the leftists And um environmental extremists.

Are.

Basically duping society with Where the grass is greener. The movie .com is the website I see but tell us something about this. Uh, very valuable documentary.

It does why we need to forfeit this that climate scientists the idea that man consensus to that warming. Uh, and that's it. The idea that it is thousands of dollars to mitigate it.

Right. There seems to be three major Categories during the documentary that I hope to Cover everything under these subheadings. The first would be science is not settled the second would be catastrophic warming from Unvalidated models and the third being not a single example Of carbon dioxide being a pollutant.

And we'll get to each of those main Categories in a moment, but I do want to go to a listener in wyoming uh who has questions, I usually don't take more than one question from a listener at the same time, but this this gentleman trevor In laramie wyoming has uh provided us three excellent questions that I thought i'd get to right away because they kind of set The stage for a lot of what we're going to be discussing.

Let me go to his first question, uh trevor in laramie wyoming asks If global warming is true and such a danger to the planet Why are countries such as china and india given exemption exemption from polluting?

Well, the uh are not only but also now what they and. Trevor's second question is how much danger.

Are scientists and other professional careers in if they speak in dissent?

Against global warming evidence that Fossil fuel companies the idea behind this facts in it. Most of which we do not understand original warming. Um. The result is in order for government to say fraudulent activity.

They have to prove who acknowledges itself.

And we have one last trevor question. Trevor from Laramie. Laramie wyoming. And I better not accept any more questions from him. Otherwise, i'll have to start paying him. But uh trevor asks What drives global warming money?

Power or something else. Are we seeing a trending down in solar activity on the sun?

Yeah.

Sincere belief that we need to Reduce our emissions, but that we're going to fight global warming by reducing our use of fossil fuels. Is going to require governments to take the goods and so we do. Climate negotiations were the best opportunity we have to replace De facto redistributive.

Now when we come back from our break, we'll have you address the last question that trevor.

Uh asked that I already read to you. Are we seeing a trending down in solar activity and the sun will be right back after these messages with more Of dr. E. Calvin bisner. So we hope you join us with questions of your own.

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Climate Alarmism, the Poor, and the Documentary’s Main Claims

Welcome back. This is chris arnzen if you just tuned us in to iron sharpens iron. We are interviewing today. Dr E calvin bisner founder and national spokesman for the cornwall alliance for the stewardship of creation.

And our theme today is debunking global warming hysteria. We're also talking about a Documentary that is available called the grass is greener and we're going to hear more about that documentary. As the interview progresses if you'd like to join us on the air.

With a question of your own for dr. Bisner. Our email address is chris arnzen at gmail .com. Chris arnzen at gmail .com. And to go to trevor's last question our listener in laramie, wyoming. Are we seeing a trending down in solar activity on the sun?

Before uh, reverend buzz. Asked some questions that he's itching to ask you. I uh Wanted to just have you comment on something that it's uh, I know that i've said this before on this broadcast, but there seems to be a real obvious charade going on with leftism uh the leftist totalitarianists who uh Constantly beat the drum that they are the ones who are most concerned over the poor and the less fortunate on the planet and all of these insane environmental schemes that they are trying to mandate legally.

Uh are really robbing. Those very people the the least among us if you will those who are Living in the depths of poverty and starvation levels. They are robbing them of their livelihoods all over the world, aren't they?

Yes, that actual action Is by reading a book called who really cares the surprising truth about competitive data. That new people about every five years is really written primarily by the politician to agree with it.

So you see that under cooler people poorer longer by fighting global warming. Then by not fighting the longer. And the poison for that is pretty simple Fuel we use the fossil fuels to fight global warming.

We are far greater risk than anything climate related if you are as prosperous in any climate. Harrah desert to the bridge if you're poor if you're like the people. The vast majority of the people of china of southeast asia.

You can't thrive in the very and yet they Dominated. Yeah, they basically are valuing.

God's creation. In the realm of plant life, especially and the animal kingdom they are Placing that at a much higher level of importance than human beings.

But there's a tremendous irony about that chris and that is that the For every doubling of co2 you get an average 35 Latitudes and look co2 180 parts per about 400 parts per million. But that's sucking air far more co2 at least plant growth.

We're greening the earth food less expensive and that's a critically important thing. And it's another thing that shows the to say that they are in it. About the poor they would want to increase co2 to increase plant growth to increase food supply food prices.

Yeah, and basically then everybody is really losing out under their regime including the plants and.

Right and uh, reverend buzz you yes, well, of course, we're we're talking about the video where the grass is greener and uh, As chris mentioned to you at the beginning of the program We both watched the video and uh, I was just uh blown away by it.

Really and I came up with. I believe you had nine major points that I have every single one of them is important. And i'm hoping that uh somehow within the time we have left that we can at least address Briefly each of those nine points, but um before we even start.

Well, you already Did point one the science is not settled. But uh before we even discuss point two. Um, could you tell a little bit about who's involved in the video?

Well, we've interviewed over 30 world-class senior fellows of the cornwall alliance. Uh, dr he is the remote census satellites to Sense all kinds of different things about the atmosphere at all altitudes all latitudes and longitudes around the earth 24 7 365.

It is the source of what we call our satellites reliable the most objective in the world interviewed. Dr Spencer david legate who's a professor of climatology and geography at the university of delaware former delaware State climatologist journal articles on climate change is another of our senior fellows.

We've interviewed him interviewed economists studies ever done on the economic impact of climate policies and power plan hundreds of thousands of and the result of it would be Less than zero point reduction, you know all pain no gain.

Uh, we've interviewed. Uh, well, i'll hand you one more as well. One aspect of this controversy that many people do not, uh, you know are not aware of Choose to use of a male child. Is like it like it's rampant in china, correct?

Exactly. Try your rate if you have has led to the right now vision in china right now is the claim of dangerous man-made global warming. By two of the most outspoken advocates of government-run family planning program development goals.

So here you have another area of the leftist agenda that seems to be backfiring because feminists have always been Uh in agreement with bible-believing christians over their opposition to prostitution and sex trafficking.

So here you have another Backfire of a leftist agenda in global warming. Very ironic. Yes, and uh reverend buzz. Oh, by the way, I just want a quick, uh announced that website again. I'm going to try to do this as often as I can during the program, but where the grass is greener the movie .com Is the website where you can find out more information about this documentary?

We are discussing but reverend buzz you had another question.

Natural Processes, CO2, and Climate Models

Well, yes, I well technically I have uh, nine questions because it's the nine points of the video. Uh, you answered number one very well and number two is natural processes dominate climate change. Could you talk on that a little bit?

Yeah, uh much for it as well and We're not using electricity on the intergovernmental panel on climate change and frankly, uh, they're more recent estimates more of that Happened before 1960. But it's only after 19.

Well, that's very similar to well that leads naturally to point number three.

Which is man-made co2 appears to be muted or very little. In fact, uh, if you could.

Dr. Beisner answer that question when we return from station break and we'll have buzz repeat. We'll have buzz repeat the question also when we return and if you'd also like to join us on the air the questions of your own.

Our email address is chrisornsen at gmail .com. Chrisarnsen at gmail .com. I thank you who are patiently waiting to have your questions read And answered on the air by dr. Beisner and so we'll get to your questions as soon as we can.

But don't go away. We're going to be right back with dr. E. Calvin Beisner on debunking global warming hysteria.

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That's wrbc .us. Welcome back. This is chris arndsen your host of iron sharpens iron if you just tuned us in for the last hour and the hour to come. We have been and will continue to be interviewing. Dr. E. Calvin Beisner on debunking global warming hysteria.

And we are also uh promoting a documentary that dr. Beisner Helped to create where the grass is greener the movie .com. Where the grass is greener the movie .com. And if you'd like to join us on the air with a question of your own.

Our email address is chris arndsen at gmail .com. Chris arndsen at gmail .com before I have the reverend buzz repeat a question. He asked before the break. I want to give out give a shout out to laura in toronto ontario canada.

And thank her for spreading the word about today's broadcast. She says there is much work each of us can do in our local communities to get the message out to our Neighbors, so, uh, thank you very much laura in toronto in toronto ontario canada.

For listening and for spreading the word about the program and Reverend buzz. Taylor if you could repeat your question that we uh that you asked before the station break.

Well, we were covering the points of the video and uh. We were talking about number two. Natural processes dominate climate change which naturally led to. Number three, which is man-made co2 appears to be Muted or very little.

You've pretty much already covered that when you were answering number two.

Yeah, I can add but then they also asked and their answer was not enough. No matter how long it takes. And what that means is that computer models you do over. So, let me just before buzz goes on with another question, I wanted to squeeze in a listener question here.

Uh, we have christopher in suffolk county long island new york who says or asks Uh, why haven't we heard a peep for a very long time? From the king of global warming hysteria al gore.

Yeah, oh really. Two months ago when he still gets when he travels on the board. The kind of press that he used to get and I might also be because be because i'm sort of talking about.

His Relative absence from the media the dnc knows very well. There's bad blood between him and the clintons.

So, uh, by the way, it should be said that he must have a jet that that doesn't burn fossil fuels, right?

I'm afraid not. I don't think there are any just I was wondering if the launching of the space shuttle might also burn some fossil fuel.

But anyway.

Yes.

You you really answered? Number nine in that when you said the 1 .2 degrees celsius if we were to burn all of our fossil fuel. And you know when you think about that It would raise the the average temperature of 1 .2 degrees celsius.

You know, I myself have lived in you know, the coldest I remember being in was minus 45. And the most I remember being in was 107. So we're talking about 152 Range that I have lived in and you know, i'm doing quite well with it.

Uh, would one or two degrees celsius really make that much of a difference?

Considering the range that in fact, in fact, uh, one of the world's Most. Richard lindsay richard lindsay. Uh, he responds, right?

Yeah, well, that's that's what point number four I believe is is addressing that real evidence does not support catastrophic warning.

Yeah, that's correct. Yeah, the the only way that you can is from the models a little while ago 18 years and nine months. That in turn. Let me just squeeze another listener question in.

Uh tyler in mastic beach Long island new york. What is your response to president obama saying that global warming is the greatest challenge facing the united states? And the world. In fact, that would also be one of the biggest Drum beats of bernie sanders the socialist running for president right now.

Yeah, and this is the dominant position we don't know that Water lack can get if you're wealthy enough being in air condition if you're wealthy enough and that wealth and affordable energy. And reliable energy derived overwhelmingly from fossil fuels.

So the ipcc itself tells us that people are at greater global warming.

And buzz you have another question. Well, actually he's covered most of them very well except for seven and eight and i'll just list those. And because they sort of go together and then we've covered all the main points of the video except for of course information on getting the video.

But number seven was climate models contain assumptions of earth's sensitivity to co2. That are far too high and linked with that is number eight. There is not a single example of co2 being a pollutant.

Yeah. Well, we've already discussed the thousands of percent of the reason why they fail to added co2 in the atmosphere. The models assume we have. I think we've got good reason from a black body. We now that clouds respond cools a little bit.

Plus just one of them that they're much stronger in the atmosphere after all the various feedback mechanisms. Empirical studies. Carbon dioxide you and I write 400 part tailing about 40. A problem for america's.

In the thousands of parts per million and men that last as much. What they really mean is carbon dioxide co2 to grow. And that's what we're doing is we're adding co2 to the atmosphere with the plants and everything that needs them.

And that mean.

In fact, I think someone in your documentary described.

Co2 as a miracle elixir of life or something to that effect. Yes the elixir of life that would go.

We do have an anonymous listener in greenville, south carolina. Who asks what does this discussion have to do with christianity? It seems to be more about politics than the christian faith. Okay, a fair question, although I disagree with his.

Uh,.

His view of what we're talking about, but if you could absolutely the bible does tell us it harms the importance of. After god had made everything he Saw that it was very good. Opposites everything else, too.

This was a promise by god to himself to sustain all of the cycles on which Depend as long as the earth endures. The global warming alarm is a collapse of the wipe out life of science the ideas of political agenda the true idea of post-normal science for director of the Climatic research unit at the to another universe normal science and advocating its use.

And for instance in his book why we disagree about global warming uh, he wrote that uh We Anything to come about hold you basis for science undermining that and we're going to be going to our final break right now.

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Uh, and we have been discussing uh debunking global warming hysteria. We've also been promoting a very valuable Documentary that you should get a hold of as quickly as possible where the grass is greener.

And the website for that is where the grass is greener the movie dot com. Where the grass is greener the movie dot com before I return to our Discussion our friends at grace bible church In new jersey in allenwood, new jersey to be specific.

Uh, they are having dr. Vody bachem a world-renowned author and conference speaker. Uh, he is going to be speaking there in new jersey this friday and saturday at a conference. That they hope you attend.

In fact, the reverend buzz taylor and I will be there god willing friday and saturday for the conference. The ever-loving truth conference equipping believers to stand for the truth. That will be friday june 10th 7 to 9 30 p .m.

And saturday june 11th from 9 a .m to 12 30 p .m. This is at grace bible church 4041 Squankum allenwood road, that's s-q-u-a-n-k-u-m squankum allen road Allenwood road in allenwood, new jersey.

The website is jerseygrace .org Jerseygrace .org. And the phone number is area code 7 3 2 9 3 8 3 1 1 1 7 3 2 9 3 8 3 1 1 1. And we hope that you attend this conference because dr. Vody bachem Is truly a phenomenal brother in christ a very gifted speaker uh, very very dedicated to The inerrancy of the scriptures.

He is a reformed baptist. He has a very high regard for the family. And I think that it will be well worth your while To go see him in new jersey and we hope to see you there as Reverend buzz taylor and I as I said hope to be there ourselves this weekend.

And once again, the website is jerseygrace .org Jerseygrace .org and uh Jumping on that question before I go to any of our other listener questions jumping on that question. From our anonymous listener in south carolina who was being a bit critical.

Isn't another big reason why this has everything to do with christianity. Is that the global warming is a an enormous lie? That is Dominating in many ways the media at this point and many many many christians are being sucked into this deception.

I would like to address our anonymous listener also on that and simply to remind him And anybody else who might have I i'm sure many people would be asking the same question and uh Understand that even at the beginning of every one of iron sharpens iron programs.