Special Broadcast: Looting, Riots, and Justice

Non-rockabodas must stop. I don't want to rock the boat. I want to sink it. Are you gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?

Delusional yeah delusional is okay in your worldview. I'm an animal you don't chastise chickens for being delusional. You don't chastise pigs for being delusional. So you calling me delusional using your worldview is perfectly.

Okay, it doesn't really hurt.

Desperate Times and the Need for Faithful Men

Desperate times call for faithful men and not for careful men. The careful men come later and write the biographies of the faithful men lauding them for their courage.

Go into all the world and make disciples not going to the world make buddies not to make brosives, right? Don't go in the world make homies, right?

Disciples, I got I got a bit of a jiggle Nick.

When we have the real message of truth, we cannot let somebody say they're speaking truth when they're not.

Introduction to the Broadcast and the Bevelyn Story

All right, guys, welcome back to the episode special broadcast of Apologia Radio. Thank you guys all for joining us. Make sure you guys share across social media. Let everybody know what's going on here special broadcast.

We're talking about the rioting the looting George Floyd's murder and sister in Christ that was Actually arrested in in New York in the midst of all the conflict and difficulty going on outside of an abortion mill and We've had around before you guys may have seen the special broadcast.

We had a pastor Luke did With Bevelyn about a year ago.

Preaching in the streets in New York. Yeah, almost like that. It was the OSA national event in Milwaukee. So it was last.

July or so. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so getting get around back a year ago strong woman Strong woman preaching truth against the issue of abortion, but she was arrested and cuffed taken to the station In New York right in the middle of all this stuff.

So we're gonna talk about that that'll segue us into a discussion talking about the looting and the riots and of course the murder of George Floyd. Make sure you guys let everyone know what's going on.

Go get apologia studios calm to get more content sign up for all access to partner with us in this ministry and To be part of all that's God's doing with apologia Studios. Thank you all for watching. I encourage you guys to go check out the last broadcast We did on the subject of George Floyd.

We did a pretty extensive discussion surrounding the law of God and how we should all.

Be.

Just witnesses and stand for justice in the case of George Floyd so let's Go ahead and get right into it today everybody. Let's get right into it today. So what I'm going to do before I actually bring Beverlyn on is I'm gonna let you see some of this now.

It's a long video. We're not gonna possibly be able to play through all this video today. But I'll go ahead and pull up the video CC just a bit of it. I might scroll through a bit of this which is gonna really upset Isaac.

But he'll get over it he'll get over it. Yeah, that's why we pay you. I mean, maybe we'll maybe we'll be able to get over him leaving his mic on in the tech room. So there was an echo at the beginning.

Yeah apology and and not plugging the computer. I mean didn't.

Either.

He so wants to come on right now. I think you can come on if you want. It's him you want just pop in just be like rich. You'll be we'll have the well. Hey, there's no rich cam. Pastor James has the rich cam.

We'll have the eyes that cam and yeah.

Maybe if I have permission. At any point.

It it doesn't bother me. No, it doesn't bother me. I mean rich always pops in with dr. White. That's true.

And I'm not even gonna yell at you.

No, no, but you can pop in any time. You can tell me please especially when we're talking trash about you.

If we set up an Isaac cam.

Okay, you sure you want people to see what you're doing back there? Oh.

All they're gonna see is nothing but nothing but Boris. Boris work. Yeah. Look I put in I put in I put in work.

I put in work. I go to work. I go to work.

Back to the show, okay everybody. So here is the video again. It's a long video 15 minutes on Beverlyn's profile. It does include of course her being taken into custody by the police department. Here is that video?

No, I Didn't hear what you said. I need you to repeat it officer. I'm following the law. Show me the executive order. I don't listen executive order is not written. Somebody just can't say what they want to say.

I need to see an executive order. Show me executive order. Pull it out. Let me see it. Executive order from build the Plaza. Yo, please. They talking about they want to arrest us if we don't leave if we don't leave our own sidewalk.

We're gonna sue y 'all so good. We're gonna sue y 'all so good. Y 'all gonna love how we sue y 'all. We're gonna sue y 'all good, baby. We're gonna sue y 'all so good. It's gonna be stew, baby. Ha curry stew just for you.

I'm telling you we're gonna sue you so good. If you make us move here and you arrest us, we're gonna sue you. So you better do what you got to do either we under arrest or not period we not moving. I don't care about no executive order.

I know what this sidewalk is and I know we were here first. We've been here since 7 in the morning. We've been here before them. No, you go ahead if you want to we're gonna sue you and I'm telling you nicely and I'm telling you nicely.

Officer do whatever your name is. I'm not doing it. This is not this is not this is not. I don't have to do this. I was here first. I was here first. I was here first. I Was here first. You can't regulate what sidewalk from what you do not have that right and neither do day.

They do not pay for this public sidewalk. We were here before he even came outside. We were here. We were here first he needs to be the one to move because he came here after us violating our social distancing.

We were here first. They sent a chief. They got the police chief Hernandez and not asking us for mask and then this guy the gato is saying that um of the Basio did an executive order and then they got the Blasio the Flazio the Flazio.

No.

No, all right, so just a little sampling there. We're gonna probably play through just a bit more but let's go ahead and invite our special guest on Bevelyn. Thank you for joining us again on apology a radio.

Absolutely, it was a pleasure last time having you. And I just want to Encourage you on for my. I didn't get chances to get on with you that day. I don't even know what I was up to. I forget maybe I was out of town.

Yes. But man, you're you're preaching in New York over the issue of abortion. What just moved me and it was it was a huge gift to be able to see that. To see a strong woman. Preaching the truth in the way that you were it was it was really a powerful thing to see.

So I'm grateful for you. I'm grateful for your courage and this particular video that you uploaded that does also include you're being taken into custody and handcuffed. Tell us the kind of background of this Bevelyn.

You're standing outside of an abortion mill, correct?

That was this Saturday and last Saturday. We were there as well and the thing is because of the kovat issue, they have not been able to get death squirts in front of the Building like they usually do and again, you know, it's like the sidewalk is public.

So they only own the building so anybody who ever first comes first serves as to where someone can stand. As long as they're not blocking the door and blocking people from entering and as you could see in that video People were able to go in and out of the door.

We did we don't block doors. We just try to make sure we talk to them. Some we got we have some that try to talk to them before they get to the door and if we have some Us we'll talk to them directly at the door.

Try to call out and plead for them to come out and really talk to us so we can help them. And so last Saturday we were doing that. Preaching and just really being prophetic and just letting the Lord use us and they were not prepared for us because We had not been there for a while.

We haven't going to the one in Camden, New Jersey, which Weeks prior to that we got detained, but then they released us in Camden, New Jersey. Then we were like, okay, we're gonna go back to the one the Margaret Sanger wine.

Like my heart just felt pulled to go back there. So we went that that uh first Saturday. We got back and it was just wonderful. They weren't there. So the spirit was just able to move greatly. The next Saturday they got barricades from the police department.

To keep us from coming in the door trying to I guess block the sidewalk. So when me and Ed may seem that we were like, we don't care about those barricades. We're going right back where we usually go.

So we were there 7 a .m Before anybody got there because again the death squirts weren't able to come out due to the kovat issue. One of the security guards once the second security security guard came one of them put on a vest and came out and They would see us standing there talking to women ministering all the same things We usually do and they called the cops.

So then the cops come and the cops are like, you know, you need to move you need to be outside the barricades because It's about social distancing regulations. And we were basically saying that you guys let the death squirt escort them in there and you don't say anything about social distancing and We're standing here and they'll say oh, well, you know.

The death squirts they work here. This is their job. I said, okay. Well, they work for Planned Parenthood. We work for Jesus. We have a right to be here. This is a public sidewalk. We're not moving, right?

And you know that so at first they were like, okay, they called Detective Hernandez who is the guy that Planned Parenthood contacts they make videos of us. They get all of our information and they contact him that directly.

So, I don't know if they will have their relationship is but I know when issues happen and they really can't budge us. They contact him and he comes down. So he came down with about ten more officers.

I Say about eight. Eight more officers and they're still saying oh you guys need to move and we're telling them we're not moving. Oh, well executive order says better than that executive order means nothing to me.

I know my rights. I know that I'm able to be here. And if it's really about social distancing y 'all shouldn't even be having escorts in the first place because y 'all supposed to social distance. So as long as they can stand here and escort we can stand here and give them the gospel.

So that's what we told them and you know, they just was like, okay. Eventually, they were like, all right, we're gonna arrest you or take you in and they gave us a summons to court September 25th. Failure to disperse.

So it's interesting I want to point out what hopefully is obvious to any rational thinking person.

The.

Location that is murdering human beings image bearers of God of all colors and especially black people Is Oh very very concerned about the preservation of life and social distancing. Uh-huh, that's a bit complicated.

I Hope you all can see it.

Yeah.

That's exactly right exactly right. So I'm I'm so proud of you sister. I know that you don't want any glory for this, but I'm very very proud of you. I I watched the video and I'm grateful for your courage and your standing.

It is true. There was no law created. There's a particular a particular way in our country the law is created and. An executive order like this is not going to stop Christians from going out and preserving life and protecting children from death.

Also, that is a public sidewalk and you were there first. The personal favoritism. Given to Planned Parenthood and other abortion mills in the midst of the kovat 19 crisis is something that ought to raise eyebrows.

But yeah, I'm gonna go ahead. I'm gonna I want to talk to you some more here bevel. And I love talking to you and I love you sharing your story. I just want to make sure everyone get a chance to see what actually happened to you.

After this interaction, so here we go. Here's here's a I skipped ahead in the video guys, and and I think this is the right spot. So let's go and take a look at it.

Jesus Jesus Lord help us. You don't have to be here mama. You don't have to be at this place. Listen to me. The law will give you a better place to go so we can give you information sister. You don't have to be.

Listen, you don't have to work at a place like this sister. The law will provide you a new job. You don't have to be here. You don't have to be here. How can this be. Churches are closed in New York City, but this place is open.

I can't find a bathroom to go in New York City, but the place to kill babies is open.

The genocidal work is cool.

Unfortunately, you just can't do it in front of the door.

Wow.

Who said that?

We're not blocking the door. You're laughing to say the hell. People are going in and out. People are going in and out. We're not blocking the door. Disturbance. These people are with us. You know what?

You know what Satan? You know what Satan? You're not gonna cut it Satan. You will not cut it Satan. Do we know these people these people that are here? We know that we're not causing the disturbance and I feel black in the door.

Why. They're still able to go in. You are lying you are lying. Got your teeth. All right, so do what you got to do. Here record it. Oh my god.

Just in just in just in just this is wrong. This is wrong. This is wrong. This is wrong. This is wrong. You should be ashamed of yourself a child of God. You should be ashamed of yourself. Don't even worry.

Don't even worry. Should be ashamed of yourself.

Bevelyn's Arrest Outside Planned Parenthood

All right. There you go. Everybody get a good glimpse of what happened outside of the abortion and Bevelyn. That's outside of the Margaret Sanger Planned Parenthood in New York. Yeah. Yes.

Okay. You don't think about it when you look back at it cuz you're so in the zone and just like shame on you but.

Yeah, hey Bevelyn there ain't nothing wrong with calling out that kind of listen look I mean, there's a context for everything in this particular context. They're murdering babies inside that location.

That's image-bearers of God that are being chopped into pieces I think that takes a little bit of right to righteous thing to be in the indignation and it's especially Horrifying to see law enforcement protecting the murderers in the place that's murdering children and Taking away women who are trying to preserve life.

It is it is a terrible terrible place. We're in it as a nation Bevelyn one of the things that you try to point out and I think it's so vital. Especially right now in the midst of what we see in our nation with regards to the riots and the looting and all the things That are taking place you try to point out That that very listen I'm gonna be of course very very sensitive as I say this to everyone watching so you understand my heart behind this.

We're all from the same blood. So all of us come from the same mom and dad. We're all one human family, but in this particular case, we have riots happening across the country of looting happen across the country because of a Terrible injustice perpetrated upon an image-bearer of God and people are angry about that injustice.

People are talking about the color of skin a lot right now. And people are very very upset that you have an image-bearer of God a black man Who was killed by a police officer and it was a terrible terrible thing, but yet Yet, we have two beautiful black women standing outside of Margaret Sanger Square Planned Parenthood who are trying to stand up for the lives of in particular black children who are being killed in mass By Planned Parenthood and they're being arrested and taken away for trying to preserve black lives.

Isn't that interesting? Now, of course, you're saying that there you go. You know, yeah, go ahead.

But I was at a black lives matter rally yesterday and I was preaching there and I called it out I said what I don't understand is how black lives matter so much that black people and even white people only get up and really Raise something when a white cop kills a black guy, but yet Six hundred and seventy five thousand black babies are being murdered every single year.

Where's the protest for that you barely you barely see people getting out except for people of the church standing up the abortion of the Abolitionists and the pro-life people. They come out they stand they fight but for the most part I just as I'm in the car right now.

I just watched a couple, you know kids suburban kids. They got the black lives matter signs up, but y 'all are standing outside of alive it go to your abortion Clinic, I never seen any of you guys at an abortion clinic.

How about you go to the south side of Chicago where they're shooting each other up and then put those signs up there. It's like if black lives matter so much Why don't the black people know that because they're the ones going in murdering their own babies?

And then now you finally got some black people that are woke and it's not because I'm black. It's because I'm Christian cuz really color has nothing to do with nothing. I'm a Christian. That's what I Identify with black people.

Are you black? Yeah, I'm not black. I'm a Christian, you know. But the fact is because God put me in this suit I'm gonna utilize every bit of what I have to further the kingdom. So he put me in a black suit.

So let's play let's work it the best we can right? So the reality is people who want to identify with my skin color. Look at me and say I'm crazy when I'm talking about black black lives matter needs a matter on all fronts.

But yeah, you guys are raising havoc. You're looting your own neighborhoods black owned businesses. You're destroying your own country because you want to feel like black lives matter yet. You're the same ones going into abortion clinics every day.

I watch black women walk out of the abortion clinic dancing. We're past the place of services and government to help we got more than enough governmental services. We got more than enough Christian and non-christian organizations that are willing to help single mothers raise their babies or keep their babies.

We're past that point. We're past the point of no return. The reality is people are rebellious. They want to do what they want to do and they don't want to take accountability. They just want to walk in.

Oh, yeah, you know black it's narcissism white man always doing this right man do that to us right man do that to this? Oh, but y 'all just killed each other last night. Oh, well, that's not that's not the point right now.

That's not the topic of conversation. We want to talk about white people. We don't ever want to address what we do. So, you know what? I'm not even. For me personally, I'm not even mad at how the police Reacted because we give it to them we give it to them.

We just we we we've laid it before them to be biased towards us because I mean really what are we doing? No one's standing. No one's fighting and I mean you got a few now that even in the church I'm calling them out.

You got a few now that are coming out and that is standing but a lot of them are sitting at Home, you know, how is it that the liquor store is essential? How is it that Walmart and all these other places are essential and then now you make abortion essential?

That's essential and if people are still sitting at home barely going and fighting and standing. So, I mean it's like it's so biased. But it's going to continue to be biased until the church rises up.

Not just the black before the whole front as it is all the discrepancies and really address them. I mean, it's inevitable I'm gonna be going to jail.

Beverly I'd like to get you a ticket so you can move to Arizona and be on a policy or radio on a regular. Pray yeah, praise God. I think you know if if we're going to use the suspicious arguments and not arguments that get to the heart of the matter and what's really really wrong and Concerns for justice because I have a huge concern for justice as a matter of fact, I got a lot of trouble for it.

We've gotten a lot of trouble for our concern for biblical standards of justice over the last Over a decade of ministry. There are even a lot of evangelicals. They don't like our particular position on the law of God being the standard.

But if we're gonna use suspicious arguments, but is it helpful to stand in an area where you have? People talking about how much a particular groups lives matter. Is it help for it for us to just say hey just so you know.

Not only was there a white cop who killed a black man. But there are a lot of white abortionists killing a lot of black baby boys. That's a strong point. I mean look answer the fool according to their folly.

I'll step into your position and see how it really works out for you. And then I will demonstrate your inconsistency. I will demonstrate your inconsistency and the problem was really much much deeper than the color of our suits.

I like how you said that and you know, here's look Bethlehem. Here's the thing sister. Look, the reason you're talking the way that you are is because you hold to a biblical worldview. Because yeah, you see image bearers of God as image bearers of God you you know.

You know what Jesus has done to bring us together our tribes together. You know how you know how we're one in Jesus and so so you're you're making this the central aspect of this and needs to be considered the the Word of God in the biblical worldview and that's why you sound so very Radical and different compared to what many people are saying right now pastor.

Look I'll pass it over to you.

I'm not sure if any questions for everyone. Go ahead. I just I had a comment or something. I was thinking about one thing. That's been.

Really.

Irritating me throughout this last week is you know, there's all this writing going on. Obviously, there's supposed to be. I don't know what they're doing here in Phoenix some protests. I'm like, what do you guys even protesting here in Phoenix because nothing's happened here, but You know, there's there's the rioting and there's the looting.

Here in Phoenix, they're specifically targeting white neighborhoods, right? The white malls like, you know, like that's where they're targeting but all I've seen like in media like from athletes and and you know famous people is this talk of.

You know racial inequality and all that and nobody's even talking about like why are these dumb dumbs writing? Why are they you know, like nobody's talking about nobody's condemning them the crime. They're all they're talking about.

The racial injustice.

I'm saying guys will say oh go and Ryan is staying and kneeling all of this stuff like that until they get under their nose. And when it's under your nose and these kids is going out of control. Robin your nice car cuz not some better thing.

You live in a white Gated community. You don't even want to live in the hood you you you grew up in the hood. You don't go back there unless you got Cops with you attend security with you because that's what they gonna rob you.

Your own people your own culture will rob you. So I'm not even trying to hit it. They're full of it.

Amen, there you go. Okay Bevelyn, I love you sister, and I'm just I'm grateful for your courage. I know I've already told you that but I really really am and I'm especially grateful that you stayed And work through our technical issues with us and hung on so we can get you on.

We love you. We're grateful for you. And you know, I want to do my best. I know the things right now are nuts with kovat. Well, has anyone talked about coffee anymore? I don't know with with with that aspect, but also of course the riots and looting.

But I want to make sure that we give you as much support as you possibly can as you move towards Your day in court. And so we want to stay in contact with you to make sure that we can keep everyone updated as to what's going on.

So we love you sister, and if you need anything from us, you let us know. Okay?

So, I know I don't even have a voice pray for my voice to come back. But like just really pray for me and my friend Ed May she's back here say I am a hey The back and in my road dog. She's riding. But yeah, just definitely pray for us and you know, yeah her church her husband Joe by rustic.

He's with Metro praise international. He's one of the churches that opened up in Chicago his whole Congregation. He has a team that goes out on the front lines in Chicago right now with all this stuff going on.

There's videos on my page where you'll see all the looting that's happening. This thing is no joke. I mean Unfortunately, they don't want to go burn the abortion clinics down. They want to go to the Nike store.

So, okay, but just keep us in prayer.

We really need that more than anything. Absolutely. We will we will do. You say you say your friend in the back goes to Metro. Praise?

No, no, this is my partner the one that got arrested with me. Yeah. That's Ed May and she's the wife of the pastor of Metro of Joe.

Yeah, yeah, I didn't know that was you. Yeah, I know. Joe Blessings. Oh, that's look at look at this little tight circle. We're in. How about that? Look at this. Wow. It is a gone thing I had. No I'd look at that connection, that's awesome.

Thing yeah, we got her on a show the day before Saturday because we saw her Her getting arrested and Joe brought her on a show with a couple other African-american pastors so they can do you know the talk with everything going on with George Floyd and She was actually gonna go to Minneapolis.

We asked if she would stop in Chicago for our Sunday morning church, and she did. She ended up staying with us. She's gonna be with us. She's been doing ministry on the streets with our young people some of our young adults and leaders.

It's been amazing. So when she said she had an apology interview, we're like, let's get in the garden.

Nice, man. I love this little circle. The Lord has us in good good good. Well, we love you sisters and Bevely. We're gonna keep you in prayer and we'll talk to you. Hopefully soon. Okay. God bless you sister.

Well, I like this tight circle, you know, that's crazy favorite part for me favorite part of the interaction Outside of the Planned Parenthood with Bevely and whispers. She says to the cop say Man these brave women.

No, I'm saying. Mm-hmm. Hey, you know what my thoughts when I see something like that is like you know all these all these people that like misrepresent the biblical worldview and people talk about patriarchy and all the other nonsense people try to do to Slander the Christian world being everything else like like these are my heroes.

Yeah, like obviously we have differences like, you know, even Joe like her husband Metro Praise International. You know, he's he's not reformed were formed and you know, he's charismatic and you know.

A Bevelyn is obviously charismatic if you watch the video, you'll see you'll see do we do all agree on everything? No. No, no, we don't but we agree on the essentials. Yep, who God is what the gospel is and so we're all unified and the Bevel is a hero.

Those two women that got arrested to stand for the lives of children that stood against The unjust treatment of these police officers outside that abortion mill. Those are those are stinking heroes. I mean, how many men do you know that would be willing to do that?

Or how many men do you know that but it's a Christian men that would just said? Oh, you want to move on to this side of the barrier? Okay, I'm moving this out of the barrier right like for what reason why I was here first public sidewalk.

Does Planned Parenthood get special treatment because they're killing babies and you know. There's a lot of collusion at times with local law enforcement and Planned Parenthood. Remember that thought because you're gonna see it very soon.

Anyway, so Bevelyn's a hero.

No, I mean, this is praise God for them. They're amazing. But I think this this also like you said like where are the men? Yeah, where the men and that's nothing against Bevelyn cuz she's they're doing an incredible job.

But where are the men, you know? I know one thing here with our with our teams like we have some faithful women that go out there as well. But we make sure that they have a man out there to protect them.

And where are the men in New York City, right? And so I think get out there boys get out there. Yeah, but praise God man. True those two women. Oh my goodness.

Those two women had more bigger stones. Can I say that. Yeah. Christian show. I think I can. Yeah, you know the modern vernacular, you know what I'm trying to say. No, absolutely. They're men. Okay, the courage they have the courage of what most men are supposed to know.

Wow.

Well, let's talk. Obviously you want to talk a bit about the writing the looting and all the rest. Hey, thanks Wade. Wade's bringing my my food. Yeah, you can bring it in here. You want to say hi. Come on in.

Just don't don't don't knock anything loose. Isaac will kill you. All right. Get out of here lunch lunch lunch. We have a busy day lots of stuff scheduled for this week and next week. So we're doing stuff on the fly here.

Justice, George Floyd, and the Riots

Okay, so let's get right into it. I Posted something I'm just gonna I'm gonna read what I posted so that I can make sure that I'm as careful and cautious as possible. And that you guys can all understand our position.

So I posted some thoughts last night that I I'm gonna sort of segue into what we're gonna look at here in a second. I do have video footage for you and some of it. I'm gonna warn you like I did last week guys, the Christian Church has got to address this.

We've got to be salt and light to mean salts a preservative preserve preserve things from spoil and decay light dispels darkness. That is our function. That is our role. We are to work towards the will of God being done on earth as it is in heaven.

So you got it you got at times engage the ugly stuff and I'm gonna warn you ahead of time. Like I did last week. You're gonna look at some stuff. That's pretty ugly and pretty violent. So I'm just laying that down.

So my brothers and sisters in the Lord who are very sensitive. Well, no, I've warned you ahead of time. So um, I made I put some thoughts down again. I'm gonna read them. What I said last night Facebook was nobody and I mean nobody who is destroying the lives and property of our neighbors has any concern for justice.

Surrounding the murder of George Floyd. We can't complain about destroying the life of an image bearer of God while we go about the enterprise of destroying the lives of others. Only the Christian worldview can put the world, right?

Only King Jesus has righteous statutes and rules that uphold the value and dignity of others and allow peace between Tribes. Luke did a very good job last week of pointing out that the issue is not racism.

It's tribalism because there's only one human race according to Scripture only faith in him can bring the salvation that allows us to see all of this and Next thought I had I wanted to make sure I wrote these down really for the show.

Honestly, this shouldn't be controversial if we understand God's law. It's clear. Remember, we're all witnesses now to the death of George Floyd. The autopsy report is ultimately Irrelevant when a man is subdued with his hands cuffed behind his back begging for his life and telling you something is wrong.

According to God's law We have a duty to preserve life. The application of pressure or potentially lethal force at that point makes the aggressor guilty. Simple the court is the place to adjudicate crime not the street.

I did see some people and it was surprising to me say, you know, Jeff I don't agree with you on that like, you know, he had stuff in the system, you know System he died. Well, there's two conflicting autopsy reports right now.

Just okay. So just let's lay that down. There's two conflicting autopsy reports one that says in conformity with what I was saying last right stop the blood flow to the brain. And there's where you create the issue.