Special Broadcast: Looting, Riots, and Justice

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June 2, 2020

Join us for this special broadcast of Apologia Radio in which we engage the current circumstances surrounding the murder of George Floyd leading to the nationwide riots and looting.

00:02: Non -rockabodas must stop. I don't want to rock the boat. I want to sink it!
00:10: Are you going to bark all day, little doggie, or are you going to bite? We're being delusional. Delusional, yeah.
00:17: Delusional is okay in your worldview. I'm an animal. You don't chastise chickens for being delusional. You don't chastise pigs for being delusional.
00:23: So you calling me delusional using your worldview is perfectly okay. It doesn't really hurt. Is he hung up on me?
00:29: Yes! What? What? Desperate times call for faithful men and not for careful men.
00:40: The careful men come later and write the biographies of the faithful men, lauding them for their courage.
00:47: Go into all the world and make disciples. Not go into the world and make buddies. Not to make brosives. Don't go into the world and make homies.
00:54: Disciples. I got a bit of a jiggle neck. That's a joke, pastor.
01:01: When we have the real message of truth, we cannot let somebody say they're speaking truth when they're not.
01:33: All right, guys. Welcome back to another episode of a special broadcast of Apologia Radio.
01:39: Thank you guys all for joining us. Make sure you guys share across social media. Let everybody know what's going on here. We're talking about the rioting, the looting,
01:46: George Floyd's murder, and the sister in Christ that was actually arrested in New York in the midst of all the conflict and difficulty going on outside of an abortion mill.
02:01: And we've had her on before. You guys may have seen the special broadcast we had, Pastor Luke did, with Bevelyn about a year ago, preaching in the streets in New York.
02:12: Something like that. It was the OSA national event in Milwaukee, so it was last July or so.
02:18: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So getting around back a year ago. Strong woman, strong woman, preaching truth against the issue of abortion.
02:27: But she was arrested and cuffed, taken to the station in New York, right in the middle of all this stuff.
02:35: So we're going to talk about that. That will segue us into a discussion talking about the looting and the riots and, of course, the murder of George Floyd.
02:43: Make sure you guys let everybody know what's going on. Go get ApologiaStudios .com to get more content. Sign up for all access to partner with us in this ministry and to be part of all that God's doing with Apologia Studios.
02:56: Thank you all for watching. I encourage you guys to go check out the last broadcast we did on the subject of George Floyd.
03:03: We did a pretty extensive discussion surrounding the law of God and how we should all be just witnesses and stand for justice in the case of George Floyd.
03:16: So let's go ahead and get right into it today, everybody. Let's get right into it today. So what I'm going to do before I actually bring
03:22: Bevelyn on is I'm going to let you see some of this. Now, it's a long video. We're not going to possibly be able to play through all this video today.
03:30: But I'll go ahead and pull up the video so you see just a bit of it. I might scroll through a bit of this which is going to really upset
03:36: Isaac. He'll get over it. Maybe we'll be able to get over him leaving his mic on in the tech room so there was an echo at the beginning of the
03:47: Apologia. And not plugging the computer in. He didn't plug the computer in either. He so wants to come on right now.
03:55: Isaac, you can come on if you want. Anytime you want, just pop in. Just be like Rich. There's no Rich cam though.
04:00: Pastor James has the Rich cam. We'll have the Isaac cam. If I have permission to come on at any point...
04:09: It doesn't bother me. It doesn't bother me. Rich always pops in with Dr. White. That's true.
04:14: And I'm not even going to yell at you. No. No. But you can pop in anytime you please. Especially when we're talking trash about you.
04:20: If we set up an Isaac cam, I'm fine with that. Okay. You sure you want people to see what you're doing back there?
04:26: Oh. All they're going to see is nothing but laborious work. Yeah. Laborious! I put in work.
04:33: I put in work. I go to work, baby. I go to work. Okay. Back to the show. Back to the show. Okay, everybody.
04:39: So here is the video. Again, it's a long video. 15 minutes on Bevelyn's profile. It does include, of course, her being taken into custody by the police department.
04:49: Here is that video. No. I didn't hear what you said.
04:55: I need you to repeat it, officer. I'm following the law. Show me the executive order.
05:01: I don't... Executive order is not written. Somebody just can't say what they want to say.
05:06: I need to see an executive order. Show me executive order. Pull it out. Let me see it. Executive order from Bill de
05:13: Blasio. Please. They talking about they want to arrest us.
05:19: If we don't leave, if we don't leave our own sidewalk, we going to sue y 'all so good. We going to sue y 'all so good.
05:25: Y 'all going to love how we sue y 'all. We going to sue y 'all good, baby. We going to sue y 'all so good, it's going to be stew, baby.
05:31: Ha! Curry stew. Just for you. I'm telling you, we going to sue you so good. If you make us move here and you arrest us, we going to sue you.
05:39: So you better do what you got to do. Either we under arrest or not. Period. We not moving. I don't care about no executive order.
05:45: I know what this sidewalk is and I know we were here first. We been here since 7 in the morning. We been here before them.
05:51: No. You go ahead if you want to. We going to sue you. And I'm telling you nicely. And I'm telling you nicely.
05:57: Officer De... Whatever your name is. I'm not doing it.
06:03: This is not, this is not, this is not. I don't have to do this. I was here first. I was here first.
06:09: I was here first. I was here first.
06:15: You can't regulate what sidewalk from what. You do not have that right. And neither do they. They do not pay for this public sidewalk.
06:22: We were here before he even came outside. We were here. We were here first. He needs to be the one to move because he came here after us.
06:30: Violating our social distancing. We were here first. They sent their chief.
06:38: They got their police chief Hernandez. And now they're asking us for masks. And then this guy Degato is saying that De Blasio did an executive order.
06:47: And then they got De Blasio. De Flasio. De Flasio.
06:57: It's not happening. No. Alright. So just a little sampling there.
07:02: We're going to probably play through just a bit more. But let's go ahead and invite our special guest on.
07:07: Thank you for joining us again on Apology Air Radio. Hi. Thank you guys for having me.
07:13: Absolutely. It was a pleasure last time having you. And I just want to encourage you. I didn't get a chance to get on with you that day.
07:20: I don't even know what I was up to. I forget. Maybe I was out of town. Yeah. Something like that. But man, you're preaching in New York over the issue of abortion.
07:29: What just moved me. And it was a huge gift to be able to see that. To see a strong woman preaching the truth in the way that you were.
07:37: It was a really powerful thing to see. So I'm grateful for you. I'm grateful for your courage. And this particular video that you uploaded that does also include you being taken into custody and handcuffed.
07:49: Tell us the background of this, Bevelyn. You're standing outside of an abortion mill, correct? So that was this
07:57: Saturday. And last Saturday we were there as well. And the thing is, because of the
08:03: COVID issue, they have not been able to get death squirts in front of the building like they usually do.
08:10: And again, you know, it's like the sidewalk is public. So they only own the building. So anybody who ever first comes first serves as to where someone can stand.
08:19: As long as they're not blocking the door and blocking people from entering. And as you can see in that video, people were able to go in and out of the door.
08:26: We didn't. We don't block doors. We just try to make sure we talk to them. We have some that try to talk to them before they get to the door.
08:33: And then we have some, us, we'll talk to them directly at the door. Try to call out and beg and plead for them to come out and really talk to us so we can help them.
08:42: And so last Saturday we were doing that. And we were preaching and just really being prophetic and just letting the
08:47: Lord use us. And they were not prepared for us because we had not been there for a while.
08:52: We had been going to the one in Camden, New Jersey. Weeks prior to that, we got detained.
08:58: But then they released us in Camden, New Jersey. Then we were like, okay, we're going to go back to the one, the Margaret Sanger one.
09:04: My heart just felt pulled to go back there. So we went that first Saturday. We got back and it was just wonderful.
09:11: They weren't prepared so the Spirit was just able to move greatly. The next
09:16: Saturday, they got barricades from the police department to keep us from coming in the door.
09:23: Trying to, I guess, block the sidewalk. So when me and Ed may seen that, we were like, we don't care about those barricades.
09:29: We're going right back where we usually go. So we were there 7 a .m. before anybody got there.
09:35: Because, again, the death squirts weren't able to come out due to the COVID issue. One of the security guards, once the second security guard came, one of them put on a vest and came out.
09:47: And they would see us standing there talking to women, ministering, all the same things we usually do.
09:52: And they called the cops. So then the cops come and the cops are like, you know, you need to move.
09:58: You need to be outside the barricades because it's about social distancing regulations.
10:04: And we were basically saying that you guys let the death squirt escort them in there and you don't say anything about social distancing.
10:10: And we're standing here. And they'll say, oh, well, you know, the death squirts, they work here. This is their job.
10:16: I said, okay, well, they work for Planned Parenthood if we work for Jesus. We have a right to be here. This is a public sidewalk.
10:21: We're not moving. Right? And, you know, so at first they were like, okay. They called
10:27: Detective Hernandez, who is the guy that Planned Parenthood contacts.
10:32: They make videos of us. They get all of our information and they contact him directly. So I don't know how their relationship is, but I know when issues happen and they really can't budge us, they contact him and he comes down.
10:44: So he came down with about 10 more officers. I'd say about eight. Eight more officers.
10:51: And they're still saying, oh, you guys need to move. And we're telling them we're not moving. Oh, well, executive order says da -da -da -da -da.
10:58: Executive order means nothing to me. I know my rights. I know that I'm able to be here. And if it's really about social distancing, y 'all shouldn't even be having escorts in the first place because y 'all supposed to social distance.
11:08: So as long as they can stand here and escort, we can stand here and give them the gospel. So that's what we told them.
11:14: And, you know, they just was like, okay. Eventually they were like, all right, we're going to arrest you. We're taking you in.
11:19: And they gave us a summons to court September 25th for failure to disperse.
11:27: Failure to disperse. What is that? So it's interesting. I want to point out what hopefully is obvious to any rational thinking person.
11:36: The location that is murdering human beings, image bearers of God of all colors, and especially black people, is very, very concerned about the preservation of life and social distancing.
11:52: That's a bit complicated. Isn't that crazy? I hope you all can see it. Y 'all are wearing masks to go in and murder a baby.
12:01: That's exactly right. Exactly right. So I'm so proud of you, sister. I know that you don't want any glory for this, but I'm very, very proud of you.
12:08: I watched the video, and I'm grateful for your courage and your standing. It is true.
12:14: There was no law created. There's a particular way in our country laws created.
12:20: And an executive order like this is not going to stop Christians from going out and preserving life and protecting children from death.
12:26: Also, that is a public sidewalk, and you were there first. The personal favoritism given to Planned Parenthood and other abortion mills in the midst of the
12:36: COVID -19 crisis is something that ought to raise eyebrows. Yes! I'm going to talk to you some more here,
12:42: Bevelyn. I love talking to you, and I love you sharing your story. I just want to make sure everyone gets a chance to see what actually happened to you after this interaction.
12:51: So here we go. I skipped ahead in the video, guys, and I think this is the right spot. So let's go ahead and take a look at it.
13:00: Jesus. Jesus. Lord, help us. How can the churches be closed in New York? Mama, you don't have to be here,
13:06: Mama. You don't have to be at this place. Listen to me. The law will give you a better place to go to. We can give you information, sister.
13:13: You don't have to be here. Listen, you don't have to work at a place like this, sister. The law will provide you a new job.
13:19: You don't have to be here. You don't have to be here. How can this be? How can this be?
13:25: Churches are closed in New York City, but this place is open. I can't find a bathroom to go in New York City, but the place to kill babies is open?
13:34: As long as you're doing the genocidal work, it's cool. I don't think so, folks. Alright, ladies. I don't think so.
13:53: Why? No, no, no. We don't believe none of this. Who said that? You're blocking the door. We're not blocking the door. You're a liar from the pit of hell.
13:58: People are going in and out. People are going in and out. We're not blocking the door. Do we involve in a disturbance?
14:04: You're causing people to gather, right? A disturbance? These people are with us. I think we are bringing them out. You know what?
14:10: You know what, Satan? You know what, Satan? You're not going to cut it, Satan. You will not cut it,
14:15: Satan. We know these people. These people that are here, we know them. We're not causing a disturbance. And if you're blocking the door, why are they still able to go in?
14:23: How are they able to go in if you're blocking the door? You are lying. You are lying. Got your teeth.
14:28: Unfortunately, we're going to have to take you back to the precinct. And we're going to give you summons back at the precinct. Alright, so do what you got to do.
14:34: Here, record it. Oh my God, I don't know how you about to do it, Mama. This is unjust. Injust.
14:41: Injust. Injust. This is wrong. This is wrong. This is wrong.
14:48: This is wrong. You should be ashamed of yourself. A child of God, you should be ashamed of yourself.
14:56: Don't even worry. Don't even worry. You should be ashamed of yourself.
15:02: Alright, there you go everybody. Get a good glimpse of what happened outside of the abortion mail. And Bevelyn, that's outside of the
15:09: Margaret Sanger Planned Parenthood in New York? Yeah. Yes, Margaret Sanger Square. Okay, Margaret Sanger Square.
15:15: So we tried to get there. It's like, you don't think about it when you look back at it because you're so in the zone and just like, shame on you, but as I listen to myself,
15:24: I'm like, oh my God, Jesus. You know the Holy Spirit take it over. Yeah. Hey, Bevelyn, there ain't nothing wrong with calling out that kind of sin.
15:33: Listen, look, I mean, there's a context for everything. In this particular context, they're murdering babies inside that location.
15:38: That's image bearers of God that are being chopped into pieces. I think that takes a little bit of righteous indignation, and it's especially horrifying to see law enforcement protecting the murderers in the place that's murdering children and taking away women who are trying to preserve life.
15:54: It is a terrible, terrible place we're in as a nation. Bevelyn, one of the things that you try to point out, and I think it's so vital, especially right now in the midst of what we see in our nation with regards to the riots and the looting and all the things that are taking place.
16:09: You try to point out that very... Listen, I want to be, of course, very, very sensitive as I say this to everyone watching so you understand my heart behind this.
16:18: We're all from the same blood. So all of us come from the same mom and dad. We're all one human family.
16:24: But in this particular case, we have riots happening across the country. We have looting happening across the country because of a terrible injustice perpetrated upon an image bearer of God.
16:33: And people are angry about that injustice. People are talking about the color of skin a lot right now. And people are very, very upset that you have an image bearer of God, a black man, who was killed by a police officer.
16:46: And it was a terrible, terrible thing. But yet, yet, we have two beautiful black women standing outside of Margaret Sanger Square, Planned Parenthood, who are trying to stand up for the lives of, in particular, black children who are being killed en masse by Planned Parenthood.
17:02: And they're being arrested and taken away for trying to preserve black lives. Isn't that interesting?
17:09: Democracy and that? There you go. You know, I'll be honest with you, I was at a Black Lives Matter rally yesterday.
17:15: And I was preaching there. And I called it out. I said, what I don't understand is how black lives matter so much that black people, and even white people, only get up and really raise something when a white cop kills a black guy.
17:29: But yet, 675 ,000 black babies are being murdered every single year.
17:36: Where's the protest for that? You barely see people getting out, except for people of the church, standing up.
17:42: The abolitionists and the pro -life people, they come out, they stand, they fight.
17:49: But for the most part, I just, as I'm in the car right now, I just watched a couple, you know, kids, suburban kids, they got their
17:55: Black Lives Matter signs up. But y 'all are standing outside of a live -in. Go to your abortion clinic. I've never seen any of you guys at an abortion clinic.
18:02: How about you go to the south side of Chicago where they're shooting each other up? And then put those signs up there.
18:08: It's like, if black lives matter so much, why don't the black people know that? Because they're the ones going in, murdering their own babies.
18:13: And then now you finally got some black people that are woke. And it's not because I'm black. It's because I'm Christian.
18:18: Because really, color has nothing to do with nothing. I'm a Christian. That's what I am. I don't even identify with black people.
18:24: Oh, you black? Yeah, I'm not black. I'm a Christian. You know what I mean? But the fact is, because God put me in this suit,
18:30: I'm going to utilize every bit of what I have to further the kingdom. He put me in a black suit, so let's work it the best we can.
18:38: So the reality is, people who want to identify with my skin color, look at me and say
18:43: I'm crazy when I'm talking about black lives matter needs to matter on all fronts. But yet, you guys are raising havoc.
18:50: You're looting your own neighborhoods, black -owned businesses. You're destroying your own country because you want to feel like black lives matter.
18:58: Yet, you're the same ones going into abortion clinics every day. I watch black women walk out of the abortion clinic dancing.
19:05: We're past the place of services and governmental help. We got more than enough governmental services.
19:11: We got more than enough Christian and non -Christian organizations that are willing to help single mothers raise their babies or keep their babies.
19:19: We're past that point. We're past the point of no return. The reality is, people are rebellious. They want to do what they want to do and they don't want to take accountability.
19:27: They just want to walk in, oh yeah, you know, it's narcissism. White man always doing this.
19:32: White man do that to us. White man do that to this. Oh, but y 'all just killed each other last night. Oh, well, that's not the point right now.
19:39: That's not the topic of conversation. We want to talk about white people. We don't ever want to address what we do. So, you know what,
19:44: I'm not even, for me personally, I'm not even mad at how the police reacted because we give it to them.
19:52: We give it to them. We've laid it before them to be biased towards us because, I mean, really, what are we doing?
19:59: No one's standing, no one's fighting. And, I mean, you got a few now that, even in the church, I'm calling them out.
20:05: You got a few now that are coming out and that are standing, but a lot of them are sitting at home. You know, how is it that the liquor store is essential?
20:12: How is it that Walmart and all these other places are essential? And then now you make abortion essential? That's essential?
20:18: And the people are still sitting at home, barely going and fighting and standing. So, I mean, it's like, it's so biased, but it's going to continue to be biased until the church rises up, not just for black, but for the whole front as it is, all the discrepancies, and really address them.
20:32: I mean, it's inevitable. I'm going to be going to jail. Bevelyn, I'd like to get you a ticket so you can move to Arizona and be on Apology Radio on the regular.
20:42: Yeah, praise God. I think, you know, if we're going to use suspicious arguments and not arguments that get to the heart of the matter, and what's really, really wrong, and concerns for justice, because I have a huge concern for justice.
20:57: As a matter of fact, I've gotten a lot of trouble for it. We've gotten a lot of trouble for our concern for biblical standards of justice over the last, over a decade of ministry.
21:05: There are even a lot of evangelicals that don't like our particular position on the law of God being the standard. But if we're going to use suspicious arguments, is it helpful to stand in an area where you have people talking about how much a particular group's lives matter?
21:20: Is it helpful for us to just say, hey, just so you know, not only was there a white cop who killed a black man, but there are a lot of white abortionists killing a lot of black baby boys.
21:31: I say that all the time. That's a strong point. That's a strong point. I mean, look, answer the fool according to their folly.
21:36: I'll step into your position and see how it really works out for you. And then I will demonstrate your inconsistency. I will demonstrate your inconsistency, and the problem is really much, much deeper than the color of our suits.
21:48: I like how you said that. And you know, Bethlehem, here's the thing, sister. Look, the reason you're talking the way that you are is because you hold to a biblical worldview.
21:57: Because you see image bearers of God as image bearers of God. You know what
22:03: Jesus has done to bring us together, our tribes together. You know how we're one in Jesus.
22:09: And so you're making the central aspect of this that needs to be considered, the Word of God and the biblical worldview.
22:15: And that's why you sound so very radical and different compared to what many people are saying right now.
22:23: Pastor Luke, I'll pass it over to you. I'm not sure if you have any questions for Bethlehem. Go ahead. I just, I had a comment or something I was thinking about.
22:28: One thing that's been really irritating me throughout this last week is, you know, there's all this rioting going on.
22:37: Obviously, there's supposed to be, I don't know what they're doing here in Phoenix. Some protests. I'm like, what are you guys even protesting here in Phoenix?
22:43: Because nothing's happened here. You know, there's the rioting. There's the looting. Here in Phoenix, they're specifically targeting white neighborhoods.
22:54: The white malls. Like, you know, that's where they're targeting. But all I've seen in media, like from athletes and famous people is this talk of racial inequality and all that.
23:08: And nobody's even talking about, like, why are these dum -dums rioting? Why are they, you know, like, nobody's talking about it.
23:14: Nobody's condemning them. The crime. All they're talking about is the racial injustice. What racial inequality do they have?
23:21: First of all, if they really want to talk about that, how about you quit your job? Because guess what? The guy you work for that owns the basketball team and owns the
23:29: NBA guarantee is white. Alright? So I don't even want to hear that. That right there don't even cut it for me. Oh, they're so racist.
23:36: Inequality. But the one that signed your check is white. Shut up. I'm not trying to hear that. That's fraud.
23:41: And then at the end of the day, them same guys will say, oh, go and riot and stand and kneel and all of this stuff like that until it get under their nose.
23:48: And when it's under your nose and these kids is going out of control, robbing your nice car, because 9 times out of 10 you live in a white gated community.
23:57: You don't even want to live in the hood. You grew up in the hood. You don't go back there unless you got 10 cops with you or 10 security with you.
24:05: Because guess what? They're going to rob you. Your own people, your own culture will rob you. So I'm not even trying to hear that.
24:10: They're full of it. Amen. There you go. OK, Bevelyn, I love you, sister.
24:17: And I'm just I'm grateful for your courage. I know I've already told you that, but I really, really am. And I'm especially grateful that you stayed and worked through our technical issues with us and hung on so we can get you on.
24:27: We love you. We're grateful for you. And, you know, I want to do my best. I know that things right now are nuts with COVID.
24:33: Well, has anyone talked about COVID anymore? I don't know. With that aspect, but also, of course, the riots and looting.
24:38: But I want to make sure that we give you as much support as we possibly can as you move towards your day in court.
24:45: And so we want to stay in contact with you to make sure that we can keep everyone updated as to what's going on. So we love you, sister.
24:53: And if you need anything from us, you let us know. OK. All right, you guys, please just keep me in prayer. I'm always on the front line.
24:58: So I know I don't even have a voice. Pray for my voice to come back. But like, just really pray for me and my friend
25:07: Edmae. She's back here. Say hi, Edmae. Hey. She's in the back. And then my road dog, she's riding.
25:14: But yeah, just definitely pray for us. And just, you know, her church, her husband,
25:20: Joe Wyrostek. Joe Wyrostek, he's with Metro Praise International. He's one of the churches that opened up in Chicago.
25:26: His whole congregation, he has a team that goes out on the front lines in Chicago right now with all the stuff going on.
25:33: There's videos on my page where you'll see all the looting that's happening. This thing is no joke. I mean, hopefully, unfortunately, they don't want to go burn the abortion clinics down.
25:41: They want to go to the Nike store. So, okay. But just keep us in prayer. And we really need that more than anything.
25:48: Absolutely. We will. You say your friend in the back goes to Metro Praise? No, no, no.
25:53: This is my partner, the one that got arrested with me. Yeah. That's Edmae. And she's the wife of the pastor of Metro Praise.
26:00: Of Joe? Yeah, yeah. We had you on the show. Yeah, yeah. I didn't know that was you.
26:06: I didn't know that was you. Yeah. I know Joe. Blessings. Oh, look at this little tight circle we're in.
26:11: How about that? Look at this. Wow. Isn't that an amazing connection? This is a God thing right here.
26:16: It is a God thing. I had no idea. Look at that connection. That's awesome. That's a God thing. Yeah. We got her on a show the day before Saturday because we saw her getting arrested.
26:29: And Joe brought her on a show with a couple of other African -American pastors so they can do the talk with everything going on with George Floyd.
26:36: And she was actually going to go to Minneapolis. We asked if she would stop in Chicago for our Sunday morning church, and she did.
26:42: She ended up staying with us. She's going to be with us. She's been doing ministry on the streets with our young people, some of our young adults and leaders.
26:50: It's been amazing. So when she said she had an apology interview, we're like, let's get in the car.
26:56: Let's go. Let's go. Nice, man. I love this little circle the Lord has us in. Good, good, good.
27:01: Well, we love you, sisters. And Bevelyn, we're going to keep you in prayer, and we'll talk to you hopefully soon, okay? All right.
27:07: God bless you, brother. All right. God bless you, sister. I like this tight circle. You know what? That's crazy.
27:12: Favorite part for me. Favorite part of the interaction outside of the Planned Parenthood with Bevelyn.
27:17: Which is where she says to the cop, Satan. That ain't going to cut it, Satan. That ain't going to cut it, Satan. Oh, man.
27:24: Man, these brave women. You know what I'm saying? You know, my thoughts when
27:32: I see something like that is like, you know, all these people that misrepresent the biblical worldview, and people talk about patriarchy, and all the other nonsense people try to do to slander the
27:44: Christian worldview and everything else. Like, these are my heroes. Like, obviously, we have differences.
27:50: Like, you know, even Jo, like her husband, Metro Praise International, you know, he's not reformed.
27:55: We're reformed. He's charismatic, and Bevelyn is obviously charismatic. If you watch the video, you'll see.
28:02: Do we all agree on everything? No? No. No, we don't. But we agree on the essentials. Who God is. What the gospel is.
28:07: And so we're all unified. And Bevelyn's a hero. Those two women that got arrested to stand for the lives of children that stood against the unjust treatment of these police officers outside that abortion mill, those are stinking heroes.
28:20: I mean, how many men do you know that would be willing to do that? How many men do you know that would, Christian men that would have just said, oh, you want to move on to this side of the barrier?
28:28: Okay, I'm moving to this side of the barrier. For what reason? Why? I was here first, public sidewalk. Does Planned Parenthood get special treatment because they're killing babies?
28:35: And you know, there's a lot of collusion at times with local law enforcement and Planned Parenthood. Remember that thought, because you're going to see it very soon.
28:43: Anyway, so Bevelyn's a hero. No, I mean, this is, praise God for them.
28:49: They're amazing. But I think this also, like you said, where are the men? Yeah, where are the men?
28:55: And that's nothing against Bevelyn because they're doing an incredible job, but where are the men? You know, I know one thing here with our teams, we have some faithful women that go out there as well, but we make sure that they have a man out there to protect them.
29:09: And where are the men in New York City? Right. So get out there, boys.
29:15: Get out there. Yeah, that's right. But praise God, man. Those two women. Those two women. Oh my goodness. Those two women had more, bigger stones than most dudes do.
29:24: Can I say that? Yeah. On a Christian show? I think I can. Yeah. You know the modern vernacular. You know what I'm trying to say. No, absolutely.
29:30: They're men. They have the courage of what most men are supposed to have. Wow. A lot of encouragement.
29:36: Well, let's talk. Obviously, we want to talk a bit about the rioting, the looting, and all the rest. Hey, thanks, Wade. Wade's bringing my food.
29:43: Yeah, you can bring it in here. You want to say hi? Come on in. Just don't knock anything loose. Isaac will kill you. All right.
29:48: There you go, Wade. Thank you, Wade. Now, get out of here. Lunch. Lunch. Lunch. We have a busy day.
29:53: Lots of stuff scheduled for this week and next week. So, we're doing stuff on the fly here. Okay. So, let's get right into it.
29:59: I posted something. I'm just going to read what I posted so that I can make sure that I'm as careful and cautious as possible and that you guys can all understand our position.
30:10: So, I posted some thoughts last night that I'm going to sort of segue into what we're going to look at here in a second.
30:15: I do have video footage for you. And some of it, I'm going to warn you like I did last week, guys. The Christian church has got to address this.
30:21: We've got to be salt and light. I mean, salt's a preservative. Preserve things from spoil and decay. Light dispels darkness.
30:27: That is our function. That is our role. We are to work towards the will of God being done on earth as it is in heaven.
30:33: So, you've got to, at times, engage the ugly stuff. And I'm going to warn you ahead of time, like I did last week.
30:39: You're going to look at some stuff that's pretty ugly and pretty violent. So, I'm just laying that down.
30:44: So, my brothers and sisters in the Lord who are very sensitive will know I've warned you ahead of time. So, I put some thoughts down.
30:52: Again, I'm going to read them. What I said last night on Facebook was, nobody, and I mean nobody, who is destroying the lives and property of our neighbors has any concern for justice surrounding the murder of George Floyd.
31:04: We can't complain about destroying the life of an image bearer of God while we go about the enterprise of destroying the lives of others.
31:11: Only the Christian worldview can put the world right. Only King Jesus has righteous statutes and rules that uphold the value and dignity of others and allow peace between tribes.
31:21: Luke did a very good job last week of pointing out that the issue is not racism, it's tribalism. Because there's only one human race, according to Scripture.
31:28: Only faith in Him can bring the salvation that allows us to see all of this. And the next thought
31:33: I had, I wanted to make sure I wrote these down really for the show, honestly. This shouldn't be controversial.
31:39: If we understand God's law, it's clear. Remember, we're all witnesses now to the death of George Floyd.
31:45: The autopsy report is ultimately irrelevant. When a man is subdued with his hands cuffed behind his back, begging for his life and telling you something is wrong, according to God's law, we have a duty to preserve life.
31:57: The application of pressure or potentially lethal force at that point makes the aggressor guilty.
32:02: Simple. The court is the place to adjudicate crime, not the street. I did see some people, and it was surprising to me, say, you know,
32:09: Jeff, I don't agree with you on that. Like, you know, he had stuff in the system. You know, people say he had stuff in the system. He died. Look, there's two conflicting autopsy reports right now.
32:16: Just, okay? So just, let's lay that down. There's two conflicting autopsy reports. One that says, in conformity with what
32:22: I was saying last week, stop the blood flow to the brain, and there's where you create the issue. The other one says, no, it was other things in the system.
32:29: Okay, people say, you know, let's look at the autopsy report. Brothers and sisters, if you know God's law, that is irrelevant.
32:35: Point in fact, I want to point you to the fact that if you had a man laying on the street right now, let's say police officers stumble upon a guy laying on the streets, and let's say that he is intoxicated, let's say he is under the influence of fentanyl or whatever the case may be, and let's say he's on the street and he's begging for his life.
32:51: He's like, guys, I can't breathe. Something's wrong with my heart. I'm dying. I'm dying. Would the police officers walk away from him?
32:58: Would they put their knees on his head and agitate the situation? What would police officers do in a normal circumstance where you have an image bearer of God pleading for his life, telling you something's wrong?
33:07: They would work to preserve life. But in this case, they didn't. So you have to think about it in terms of what was taking place.
33:12: They cuffed him. They subdued him. They essentially were going to charge him with a crime, which means he was supposed to have a day in court.
33:19: There's no ability in God's law to execute punitive justice on the street.
33:27: You can't give somebody the death penalty on the street. They need their day in court. Further, when you are the person putting your knee on someone's neck, which can actually be lethal to them, stop the blood flow to the brain, you didn't have to be removing their ability to breathe.
33:43: When you are agitating a person who is maybe in a state where their health is in danger because of something they've had in their body, you become responsible.
33:52: The person is begging for their life. So when people are trying to shift this in terms of, let's see what the autopsy says,
33:57: I want to point out to us, we've already all witnesses to what took place out there. So this is an issue where you're concerned with justice.
34:04: Hear this again. Justice. Justice. Justice. What are you hearing from us? Color? Color? We talking about color?
34:10: No. We're not talking about color. We're talking about justice. Because I want justice for everybody of every color, and there's only one place where it's ultimate, and it's certain justice, and that's
34:19: God's law. Next point I made was, with that said, angry mobs also have no right to deal out punitive damage and attempt to adjudicate in the streets.
34:28: They claim to be angry about a victim. I am too. Yet, they are now creating millions of victims.
34:35: Justice has a place in God's law. Justice has a standard, and it is God's law. God has spoken.
34:40: Our society has long repudiated God's righteous statutes. So have many professing Christians.
34:46: Now we are learning why God gave it. Deuteronomy 4, 5 through 8. Go check that out, please.
34:53: All right. So, gets us to a point, and you jump in here, Pastor Lennon, if you want. Yeah, I do have something to bring up, but just going off what you were just saying, like the riots and the looting and going back to,
35:07: I mentioned earlier, to Bevelyn, but, you know, it's just so stupid to me.
35:15: You know, we're going to loot, you know, people are going to loot stores for no reason, really.
35:21: It's just like, it's just people that are greedy, right, and they're just like, oh, here's a reason to steal something, you know, and that's really what it boils down to, you know, or, you know, talking about creating more victims, you know,
35:31: I mentioned them wanting to, there was rumors Sunday night, which we didn't even talk about the curfew, which is ridiculous.
35:39: Yeah, Arizona has a curfew right now. But like, you know, I got home Sunday night from church, and I'm seeing all these rumors that they're attacking neighborhoods, white neighborhoods in Gilbert.
35:47: That's where I live. And I'm like, oh, geez. So like, you know, all my neighbors are Mormon. I'm telling them, hey, just so you know, it's probably nothing, but just be prepared.
35:56: You know, I had to get, this is the first time I've ever had to, I got my shotgun out and had it by the front door just in case, had my cameras on just in case, you know, it's just like, just because, for no stupid reason.
36:06: And what'd you do? No, I'm saying, what are you guilty of? Oh, right, exactly. With George Floyd's murder? Yeah, exactly.
36:12: What are you, what am I guilty of? No, I didn't do anything, yeah, because I'm white, because I'm white, because I'm wearing a white suit. What is, what is anybody else guilty of?
36:19: Especially even like in the neighborhoods where you have predominantly black community in a neighborhood like that.
36:27: Why are you destroying their neighborhood? Yeah, those, those are your, those are your neighbors.
36:33: What's, what's the issue? Like, what do they do? Like, who's, who's guilty that deserve the punishment? Exactly. Isn't, isn't it the officers involved that deserve the punishment?
36:43: Isn't that where justice is going to be found? Like, isn't this supposed to be taking place at that level? Why am I going to create more victims of a host of colors?
36:52: Right. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, so they're mad because someone of their tribe got murdered. They should be upset about that.
36:58: But then they're just turning around doing the same thing when they're targeting people of the opposite tribe.
37:05: And think about the issue of justice. We can multiply this a million times over. But what about, what about in my own particular home?
37:11: I have a home where I happen to have a white suit Jesus gave. I happen to have a white suit
37:17: Jesus gave to me. I think racism is an abomination, and I'm really glad it's going to, that, that sin will be burning in hell forever.
37:26: Of course, there are people who commit that sin, but you get my point. I hate it. It's an abomination. It's completely contrary to the biblical worldview.
37:32: How about my case? Like, when people are trying to spin this narrative, make it about color rather than justice.
37:38: I have a son that I've adopted. August is, he's Iranian, Guatemalan and Caucasian.
37:47: So what guilt does he carry? Like, what percentage of his life is he going to have to carry a particular amount of guilt because of certain aspect of his
37:55: DNA happens to be a particular color expression? Like, what, what amount of, of quote unquote white guilt or black guilt does someone have to actually hold to when someone spins a narrative about color?
38:07: Like, what percentage do you have to be to really actually qualify for that guilt? You know what
38:13: I'm saying? Like, how does it work out for somebody like in my home where I have a child who is of a, of a mix of different tribes than me?
38:21: Like, what, what do I do as his father? Like, what do I share with him? Like, in terms of making him feel guilty or, you know, like, how do, how does this work?
38:29: Or is the issue deeper? Is it justice? I'll give you an example of demonstrating how this is not about justice by any means.
38:38: Here you have an example that's one of those violent videos. So get ready. This is hard to watch.
38:44: Rochester, New York. This is store owners trying to simply protect their store from looters.
38:51: And I, let me just point this out to you. The colors here need to mean nothing to you if you are a
38:57: Christian and hold to biblical worldview. When I watched this video, I was paying no mind whatsoever to the color of the people who own the business or to the color of the people who are beating them.
39:09: There was no mind paid by me. What I saw was crime and sin and hate.
39:15: That's what I saw. And that's what I would like to address with the gospel of Jesus Christ and the law of God. But here's a particular case demonstrating this isn't about justice.
39:25: This is about wickedness and crime. Here it is. So the woman is standing outside.
40:03: She just gets punched. The husband comes out to try to protect his wife. His wife is getting beat right now.
40:11: They're hitting his wife with what looks like a long two by four. The husband's trying to protect his wife.
40:19: I don't know if he's going in to get a weapon, but they are. You have three men beating his wife.
40:26: Now they're hitting him with this with what looks like a long two by four. So let me ask you to think critically about that and just ask the question, is that about justice?
40:38: Is that really justice? What'd they do? They got some involvement in the murder of George Floyd. I don't care what color they are.
40:45: Don't care whatsoever. I care about the issue of sin, crime and justice. That's how God defines things, not by color.
40:52: And he talks about the crime and the issue there. You can't say that you're concerned about the abuse of an image bearer of God and then go about the enterprise of abusing other image bearers of God.
41:02: It doesn't work. Here's the thing. I don't believe you. I don't believe you. I'm not convinced whatsoever.
41:09: I see through the lie. I see through the wickedness. And I know the only answer is Jesus in the biblical worldview.
41:15: And I don't mean that as a pithy, stupid Christian saying. I mean, legit. God is holy.
41:21: We're sinners. We're rebels against a holy God. We deserve hell. And all this stuff you see in our nation right now is an expression of the evil and wickedness that comes from within people's hearts.
41:30: It's coming from deep down and from within. And the only escape from that is through repentance and faith in Jesus Christ, receiving the free gift of eternal life through what he's accomplished.
41:40: God becomes man and lives perfectly and dies a death we deserve and rises again from the dead so that he would take people who are made from one blood, all the tongues, tribes and nations that bring us together.
41:51: You know the glorious scene I love in Revelation? The glorious scene is that scene where everybody from all the tongues, tribes and nations are all gathered together before the throne of Jesus.
42:00: That's the Christian worldview. This other worldview is bootleg. It's ridiculous. It's hostile to Jesus.
42:06: And we ought to hate it and heap scorn upon it. What we should be showing concern for right now is justice, justice, justice.
42:12: We should be talking about how the fact the fact that we are all of the same human race and we should be talking about the fact that any expression of hatred for another from anybody because of the color of their skin is a wicked evil that belongs in the pit of hell.
42:27: The only answer is the biblical worldview. Look, look, you want you wanted it world and you got it.
42:32: You wanted the evolutionary worldview. You wanted what that creates. You wanted human beings with no meaning and no value and no dignity.
42:39: Just another cosmic accident. You wanted human beings that evolved differently in different cultures and people like that.
42:45: Look, you're going to gain traction there for one tribe to say, you know what? I think I'm a little more evolved than you.
42:52: And I think you're less human than me. You know, it's been done before. Nazi, Germany.
42:57: Sound familiar? Holocaust? Not quite a person. I know you're not really a person in the real sense of like,
43:03: I'm a person. But, you know, when we think about addressing this, look, that's the world.
43:10: That's the world you asked for. Let's let's be honest. When we've adopted the evolutionary mindset, when we loved all when we let all these neo
43:17: Marxist and just straight heavy Marxist socialist evil demons into the educational system in the 60s and 70s and 80s and on, they just were overt with it.
43:29: We're going to take over the educational institutions. We're going to take over media. We'll have America flipped into generation, believing in the communist ideal and all that, all the rest.
43:37: Well, guess what? They were successful. And guess what? You reap what you sow. Public schools teaching kids that they're just cosmic accidents and teaching them that socialism is the best and the ideal.
43:48: And, you know, personal property is not really that important. And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And human sexuality, you know, you can do what you want.
43:54: And, you know, you want to you want to say you're a male one day, a female the next. And then one of other 50 other genders the next day, then you go ahead.
44:02: You raise children to believe that those same children will then begin to plunder your goods and destroy their neighbors.
44:11: This is the world we asked for. You said no to the rule of Jesus, America. You said, no, we'll go our own way.
44:18: And what do you get? And I just want to say, and Luke, I'm a pass it over to you. Look, all the years of bloodshed in America, 50 years of bloodshed just in the area of abortion alone, over 62 million dead babies in this nation.
44:33: We have blood guiltiness in our nation. And we better not think that we have God's mercy. Owed to us.
44:38: And we better not think that we don't deserve what we have in front of us. We are guilty as a nation.
44:45: It's not just the issue of abortion, but that's a big one. We have dwarfed the Holocaust in comparison in our own nation.
44:53: So we better not be saying, you know, you know, America, like, you know, God really owes us his favor.
44:58: No, he doesn't. No, he doesn't. Not by a stretch. We are guilty. And we had better repent individually as communities and nationally.
45:07: Jesus is the only answer out of this. Uh, two things. One, I saw our buddy
45:13: Jeffrey Rice on here just asked with a winky face, are we still post mill? Yeah, we are.
45:18: And here's an example of why I think it's speaking of the school system. Like I think God is, uh, is destroying the public school system.
45:26: That's how I really believe that. And I think it's glorious. Um, that's a side note, but, um, the one thing
45:32: I wanted to get to was someone asked the question here. And I think it's a good question that we should probably address this.
45:38: Uh, it's the, the utterly stupid notion that, uh, the ride riding and looting is comparable to Jesus cleansing the temple.
45:52: That's just absolutely. Someone asked, like asked us to address it. I've heard that moronic, like there's not even, it's not even the same universe.
46:00: No, not at all. Also it's, well, it's, it's ignorant on a number of levels and it shows, uh, that proof texting can be deadly.
46:07: That's true. Um, first of all, you have to understand when you look at the G with the, at the issue of Jesus cleansing the temple,
46:14: Jesus was a priest, is a priest. And, uh, if you look at the law of God, particularly Leviticus itself, there was a particular dress rehearsal thing they did, uh, that had meaning in its day, but ultimately pointed to Jesus and Jesus, uh, the priest would go to a house and examine it to see if it was diseased and they would do whatever they had to do.
46:33: And then they would, he would return the second time. And if his disease was still found, and that was essentially, it was supposed to be like a rehearsal for sin, right?
46:41: You have leaven in the law, all those different things that were pointing to sin, cleansing the house of leaven, all that. But in the case of the priest in the law of God, he had to go once and then return a second time.
46:51: And when he came back the second time, if he still found disease, then what he was supposed to do was essentially the house was condemned and then it was supposed to be taken apart brick off of brick.
46:59: When you look in John's gospel, Jesus goes the first time, there's one cleansing of the temple the first time. In Matthew, Mark, and Luke, they speak of the second cleansing near the end of Jesus' ministry.
47:09: Jesus is fulfilling the role of the priest and he's going through with that shadow ultimately pointing to, and that was the diseased house of the people of God, the temple itself, and then
47:19: Jesus did what? After he cleanses the temple, he says to them, their house is left to them desolate.
47:25: Right? And the temple is going to be taken apart stone off of stone. So trying to compare that, Jesus removing the corruption and pointing to the corruption and destroying the temple itself because of the sin there, pointing back to the dress rehearsal and the law of God to what's happening today.
47:42: I don't think so. I don't think so. It shows an ignorance of what the Bible teaches. Well, yeah.
47:48: When Jesus was cleansing his, his, his house. Yeah, this is not, yeah, that's his house.
47:55: This is not, he wasn't going into some building that wasn't his and breaking windows and taking lamps.
48:02: Well, that's a good point. I'm so glad you said that because Malachi chapter three in the old Testament, it's that last book in your Bible, it talks about the
48:08: Messiah coming. And it's exactly what you said, Luke. It says that he's going to come, the Lord will come to his temple.
48:14: Right. The Lord's going to come to his temple. So whose temple was it? It's Jesus' house he's cleansing. He, the, the, the idea that you could then turn that into looters going into other people's houses and businesses and destroying them is absolute insanity.
48:31: And it shows a total ignorance of the biblical worldview. It was his house.
48:36: That's a good point. And these are Christians that are sharing this. That's sad. It's not, it's not the liberal. It's not the people that are doing the rioting that are saying that.
48:44: It's Christians. And I'm like, what do you, why are you even attempting to justify this? Yeah. When you, I, I, I, I'll be honest.
48:51: Uh, and I'll just say what I want to say here. When I see people who profess the name of Jesus inciting riots and looting and adopting the
49:04: Marxist ideology of conflict between classes and groups and trying to help with that and trying to put a
49:10: Christian veneer over it, I want to say that I am disgusted by it.
49:17: I hate that there are people who profess to love Jesus that actually also love Marx a lot, um, more than Jesus.
49:26: I hate that they're using the name of my savior and sullying his name and reputation and his word so that they can get a
49:32: Marxist ideology into the world. I hate it. And I want to promise you this, we're going to fight against it until we die.
49:39: And I can promise you this much. Now that we see how far this has gone in our country, I'll confess.
49:45: I'll go ahead and confess to a failure on my part. I saw it coming. I knew it was coming. I was teaching against it, talking against it, but clearly not enough.
49:52: This is now, this is now in the circle of my enemy number one. And I will be teaching against this stuff.
49:58: I will be making sure that we all understand it. And I will make sure that Apologia Church is fighting against this evil in our world, things like Antifa and that ideology.
50:09: Look, we knew about Antifa long before you guys probably knew the name. Antifa has hated us for a long time and they've actually gone out to, we've had run -ins with them.
50:18: They've tried to come out and fight against us and all the rest. We've known about them for a long time. We didn't need the president to tell us that their worldview is deplorable and that they're terrorists and all the rest.
50:27: We've already known this for many, many years. But the sickening thing to me is to see Christians, professing
50:32: Christians, giving credence to their ideology. That's, it's, it's deplorable.
50:38: It needs to end for sure. I want to point to one, point to this, this was moving, man, this was so moving to me.
50:47: This is not, this is not new. This is actually very, very old. Just to show how this stuff is illogical and foolish.
51:00: It has no rhyme or real reason to it. And it's ultimately destructive to the very same people it pretends to try to uphold because it's insanity, because it's not just, because it's a violation of God's law, because it's really just wickedness in the heart being expressed in the open.
51:21: This is what you see. This was in the 1992 LA riots. Some of you guys have probably already seen this, but I just wanted to show it to you in case you haven't seen it, because it's very, very moving.
51:30: It's a black business owner during the 1992 LA riots, really pleading with his community.
51:36: And I'll just let you see it. It's not right. It's not right. It's not right what y 'all doing.
51:47: I came from the ghetto too, same as all of you did. Y 'all need to listen.
51:54: But you know, y 'all, y 'all messed up my business, and you call it black power.
52:00: You mad at the white guy. Why did you destroy my business? Why did you destroy my truck?
52:08: Why did you steal my computer? I'm trying to make it. Could you understand that?
52:15: Did y 'all see it? I'm trying to make it. Just start listening.
52:22: So, very powerful little video. Again, that's from 1992 LA riots. You know, the scripture is really, really clear about victims' rights.
52:32: The Bible is very clear about that. And we should all be grateful for that, because it's the victims' rights that are upheld in the law of God that created so much blessing for our country.
52:43: Now, I'm not saying that our Constitution is perfect by any means. But the good things that we have in there that came from the
52:52: Christian worldview, we should highlight and we should praise God for. Victims' rights are very, very important in God's law.
52:59: And thankfully, again, in American law. And we should care. We can't say that we love
53:05: God's word and we're Christians and we care about justice and all the rest if we don't care about victims' rights. Because the people who are saying social justice, if you ask them,
53:14: What's that mean? What's social justice mean? How do we get it? Can you write it down for me? It's meaningless.
53:20: It's a meaningless statement that ultimately doesn't come from Jesus in terms of that's justice. It comes from some other emotional or Marxist ideology of what social justice is.
53:31: This is not justice like God says justice is. But if you care about justice, then you care about justice for this black man.
53:38: And you care about justice for the white couple that was beat up outside of their store. You'll care about justice for the
53:43: Asian store owners that are now, and once again, you gotta love the Asian crowd, man. Did you see the videos? Yeah, standing on top of their shops again with their weapons.
53:51: Sort of firing off and scaring people off. Look, we'll care about justice for every person of every color because every person's an image bearer of God.
54:00: If you care about justice, you better care about victim's rights. Like this wonderful black man right here that had his business destroyed.
54:07: He's pleading with his own community. You know, why would you destroy my business? If you're really concerned about this, why my business?
54:14: Because they're not concerned with justice. When you don't have a standard, by what standard?
54:20: By what standard? When you don't have a standard, it's just a myriad of voices.
54:26: And once a person says, this is my interpretation of what's just, along comes a person tapping on their shoulder and shoving them out of the way saying, no, no, no, no, this is justice.
54:36: And you go, well, how do you guys know what true justice is? Along comes the secular humanist, atheist philosopher behind it all and goes, well, there's no real knowledge of whatever's true or lovely or just anyways.
54:49: We're just sort of all tinkering. You know, have it his way or his way. It's just this chaos.
54:56: There's no morality to point to here. Why? Because we have lost the objective standard of the revelation of God as the premier anchor where we say, this is just.
55:08: That's not to say the Christians are always going to agree on every single detail, but it does mean at least the
55:14: Christians get to get around that revelation to say, this is what it says, so how do we work that out?
55:20: Right? It's God's word. You know, the only thing that can heal racial animosity, right, let's call it really what it is, tribal animosity.
55:28: The only thing that can heal it is Christianity. Amen. Right? Because what's the biblical world you say?
55:34: Adam and Eve, Adam and Eve, all of us, one blood came from that. Right? Doesn't matter what color you are,
55:41: I don't care. You're a son or daughter of Adam and Eve. You might look different than me, and I love those differences.
55:48: I love the differences in cultures and all the different tribes. We should celebrate those things. But what we ought not celebrate is the color of our skin.
55:54: It's disgusting to me when people highlight and glory in the color of their skin. That's not biblical.
56:00: It's not the Christian worldview. Right? And people talk about, like, you know, people get even sick with it, and they say things like, you know,
56:06: Jesus wasn't white. I'm thinking to myself, has that really been a concern for you? Right?
56:12: Is that really a concern for you? Like, you really want to highlight that, the fact that Jesus wasn't white? Who cares? I love
56:18: Jesus. He's God who became a man. I don't care what color. I don't care if he was purple. I love him.
56:23: I'm going to worship him. What does it matter to you that Jesus wasn't white? I don't care what color Jesus.
56:29: Look, if Jesus was as black as night, it would change nothing in my submission to him, my love for him.
56:36: He died for my sins. Right. He took on flesh. I don't care about his color, and you shouldn't either. And the fact that people are highlighting the color of Jesus and the color of this crowd and the color of that crowd shows me you have not actually contended with what the
56:50: Scriptures actually teach on the point of the human race. Because, look, the glorious story of the
56:58: Old Testament, Daniel 7, 13 through 14, is that this Son of Man was going to have a kingdom, a dominion that would never end, and every tribe, people, tongue, and nation was going to come, and they're going to worship
57:07: God together. And I love that. I love my black brothers and sisters. I love my white brothers and sisters.
57:13: I love my brown brothers and sisters. I love people who are a total mix of all of them. I love it.
57:19: I think it's glorious. And I don't care, ultimately, about the color of the skin of the person next to me.
57:25: And you know why? Because I'm a Christian and I know what God says about it. You want to heal the world on racism? Start having them reject and repent of evolutionism and Marxism and intersectionality and all these ridiculous lies from demons in the pit of hell.
57:42: Have them repent of that and come to Jesus. Have them repent of that and come to the law of God to say this is justice for everybody.
57:51: I'll just end on a quote I use a lot from our friend Toby, where he said that as Christians we should reject every offer of victimhood because we have the perfect victim and we're never truly innocent.
58:11: That's powerful. Say that again. So as Christians we should reject every offer of victimhood because we have the perfect victim and we are never truly innocent.
58:23: Powerful stuff. Thank you guys for watching. Pray. Pray.
58:31: Not just for peace in our streets. Like look, if you think about it, what if there's a lull and all the rioting and the looting stops, right?
58:45: But nobody's hearts are changed? What are you waiting for? You're waiting for the next event, right?
58:52: Like it's been shown like this is the wickedness in the heart of your nation. This is there.
58:58: It's under the surface. It's not over it all the time, but it's there. Given a reason, given an opportunity, it'll come out.
59:06: So if there's a lull and there's peace in this moment and we try to fix stuff around the edges of it, right?
59:12: What are you still left with? Fallen hearts that hate God and hate neighbor. That's why the rioting.
59:18: That's why the looting. So the only way this is going to change is if people's hearts change and that's only change for the gospel.
59:26: We said it this Sunday at church. The gospel is the power of God for salvation. Preach the gospel.
59:31: Call people to repentance to faith in Jesus. Do it with courage. And if you're like, I don't know if I have that kind of courage. Well, then you ask
59:37: God for it. And if you're like, well, I don't know if it's my responsibility. Well, then get ready for the tsunami.
59:45: Get ready for it. And you know what? I love what this is doing. And I'll say a final word on this. I love what this is doing to Christians in terms of having them going, uh -oh, wait,
59:54: I've been living my life hoping to escape in any moment. I haven't been thinking about children and grandchildren and great -great -grandchildren and the world that I leave to them as a
01:00:04: Christian. I haven't really been thinking about that. I love that we're finally thinking about it. I love that we're thinking about it.
01:00:10: This is the world that Christians, who are supposed to be the salt and light, are handing to our children. We stepped aside from culture.
01:00:17: We stepped aside from the issues of law and justice. We weren't light in those areas.
01:00:23: And so generation, generation, generation. And you go, oh, look at the world I'm handing to my kids, my grandchildren, and all the rest.
01:00:29: I love that we're thinking about it now. When someone says to me, Jeff, you're still a post -millennialist? Look at the world. I say the only person asking that question is a person who doesn't know what post -millennialism is.
01:00:38: Right? Because post -millennialism does not teach that the world just continues to grow and grow and be this utopia, utopia, and everything's perfect.
01:00:46: There are blessings, there are peace, and there are graces that are given to all these different cultures. And I would say you're experiencing it right now.
01:00:52: Like, right now, you're experiencing the blessing of the Christian worldview with the technology and the science and all the rest and medicine.
01:00:58: And Christians gave the world hospitals, you know, and all that stuff. So, of course, those blessings around, that's from the
01:01:04: Christian worldview. Remove the Christian worldview, lose the blessings, right? And also, the kingdom of God is the issue.
01:01:09: Jesus says that it'd be like a mustard seed that becomes a tree, leavened in a lump of dough that permeates the entirety of the loaf.
01:01:15: Daniel's vision in Daniel 2, it's like a little stone that becomes a mountain and fills the earth. So, the Bible talks about the rule of Christ and his kingdom as progressive, as growing.
01:01:24: It's not like, my friend says, the 82nd airborne dropping out of the sky and hitting the earth. It moves through history.
01:01:30: And if you're like, yes, but there's so much evil in the world today. Yep, there is, and there would be a lot more if not for the kingdom of God and the rule of Christ in the world.
01:01:38: I want to remind you that our story with the kingdom of God started with a crucified
01:01:43: Savior under Roman rule, treated as a common criminal, dead, and then alive again, and a handful of very confused disciples in the first century, all the way on the other side of the planet from us in Arizona.
01:01:56: And right now, we have believers who worship and love the Lord Jesus and worship the God of Israel, the true
01:02:02: God, because of Jesus, all over the planet listening to this story right now. Don't tell me
01:02:07: Jesus isn't winning. And don't look at a momentary thing like riots and evil in people's hearts to distract you from the fact that the
01:02:14: Bible says all authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Jesus. And don't let it distract you from the promise that every tribe, tongue, people, and nation is going to come to Jesus.
01:02:23: Don't let it distract you from 1 Corinthians 15, where it says that he's ruling now, and he must reign until every enemy is under his feet, and then death will be defeated.
01:02:32: So he's ruling now, every enemy put under his feet, and then death is defeated. Are you going to start thinking about your grandkids now?
01:02:38: And your great, great grandkids? And your great, great, great, great, great grandkids?
01:02:43: Are you going to start thinking about that now? What if, what if, and look, I'm not a prophet here, but what if God actually has us here as the kingdom of God with the gospel influencing the world, all of us?
01:02:53: What if we're supposed to be here? What if we have another 25 ,000 years? Oh, does that freak you out?
01:03:00: It doesn't mean. It just means more salvation, more people coming to God, more glory to Jesus through his rule and victory over the world.
01:03:09: What if you have like 25 ,000 more years of the church here before Jesus comes to finally defeat death?
01:03:16: Would that change your perspective of how you actually start to face the sin around us in our nation?
01:03:23: Will it change how you actually begin to be courageous and speak to it? Will it change whether or not you join
01:03:28: Bevelyn outside of Tempe, or sorry, Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger's Square in New York?
01:03:33: Will it change how you actually start now living and moving and ministering in God's world?
01:03:39: I hope it does. I hope it does, and I hope you put your hands in ours and allow us to put ours in yours, and we join together in proclaiming the gospel of the kingdom boldly and humbly to the world around us.
01:03:52: The answer is Jesus, and that's it. All right. I was just going to say we're not interested in societal band -aids.
01:03:58: No. We want societal healing. Yes. And talking about post -millennialism,
01:04:05: I was talking to our friend William in Northern Ireland yesterday, and he is almost post -mill because of us, but it's changed his outlook on this fight against abortion.
01:04:18: And I told him, I said, you know, William, it was an
01:04:23: Irishman that really put flesh on post -millennialism for me, Arthur Guinness.
01:04:29: Oh, yeah, yeah. 9 ,000 -year lease. Yep. Yep. Nobody thinks like that anymore.
01:04:35: Yeah, he signed a 9 ,000 -year lease. Yep. Yeah, he thought we were going to be here for a little while. Yeah. That's right.
01:04:41: All right, guys. God bless you all. Thank you all for watching. Make sure you guys share the episode. Let everyone hear about Bevelyn's story. Please pray for Bevelyn and her team.