Are Gays Worse Sinners Than Normal People?

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The issue is that humanity is in sin and the wrath of Almighty God is

Hanging over our head. They will hear his words They will not act upon them and when the floods of divine judgment when the fires of wrath come

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We're gonna be answering the question are gays worse sinners than normal people now

Immediately when you hear a question like that One of the things that if you're a Christian and you have some sort of self -awareness one of the things that you might

Think immediately is that you might realize that you're a sinner and that all people are sinners. There's none righteous.

No, not one We've all turned aside We've all pursued our own way. There's none that do it does good.

No, not what we realize that we're all sinners We all stand equally condemned before Holy God. We understand that just one sin will separate us from From God that if we're guilty of one sin that we're in some sense have rejected the whole law of God God standards perfection.

None of us meet that standard. We all stand equally condemned We realize that also, you know related to this topic matter are gays worse sinners than normal people.

We realize that there will be many individuals who are

Attracted to members of the opposite sex who will end up in hell and we also understand that there will be many people who

Have deviant sexual temptations who will also end up in hell the issue of the nature of a person's attractions whether Normal as God designed them to be or deviant and in corrupted

That in of itself is neither salvific nor uniquely Condemning meaning that that the presence of those things

Does not in some simplistic way guarantee that an individual will go to hell and then the absence of those things

Doesn't in any kind of simplistic way guarantee that they're going to go to heaven so there's you know, there are plenty of wicked sinners who happen to never have

Been tempted towards sodomy their entire lives. There's plenty of individuals

I imagine Hitler was one of those individuals who was never tempted that way and in the course of his whole life

Maybe there's historical evidence. I'm unaware of this suggests to the contrary, but I imagine that there there is plenty of You know

Dictators out there who have committed a great amount of evil in the world who will No doubt end up in hell

And there is no salvation through a normal sexual orientation To use the obnoxious language that our society is intent upon using

So when you think about it that way all of us stand equally condemned before God We all enter into the world with the inherited guilt of our father

Adam There's nothing we can do about it. We all stand condemned in some sense.

We all We all obviously fall short of God's standard of perfection. We all are desperately need of a

Savior yes, and amen to all that now the question though remains our gaze worse and sinners than normal people and That kind of person that I just said who acknowledges all those things might hear that kind of question

To be the kind of question that the only person who would answer yes to would be someone like Steven Anderson or the

Westboro Baptist Individuals who really do seem to revel in their hatred towards Individuals who

Commit sins that they would never dare to commit and they do really they really do seem to be the sorts of people who say

Thank God. I'm not like these vile sinners In their pride and their hypocrisy and everything else at the same time

However, one of the things to realize is that the Bible is not the kind of book that engages in sin leveling

Both on a human level and also from the divine perspective There are sins that are clearly worse than other sins

And what I mean by that is that there are any number of sins that an individual can commit You know a lack of gratitude a lack of thanklessness pride

You know arrogance boasting covetousness there, you know even lost an individual can commit any number of sins that are

Heinous and disgusting before the eyes of God and at the same time God did not command the death penalty for every sin that it happens to exist

So just take a let's change the subject to murder for instance and try to respond to this question as it relates to that Just pause for a second and think about the way that murder works now

Anger is the kind of sin that inevitably if you feed it and if you feed it and if you feed it

You should not be surprised if ultimately one day your anger culminates in murder now when Jesus comments on Anger and murder in the

Sermon on Mount. He essentially says that that you know if you're You know, you think that you're okay essentially because you haven't committed murder

But if you're angry with your brother, you basically have committed murder in your heart That's that's that's his comment and the same thing goes for lust

Do you think hey, you know, you're fine because you didn't break the command to not have adultery But if you have lust for a woman in your heart you committed adultery in your heart

One of the things that Jesus is doing on the Sermon on Mount is usually rebuking the kind of person who says hey

I didn't Come I didn't commit physical adultery. Hey, I didn't commit physical murder. So I must be okay

I've kept the commandments But then the problem though is to say that there's more to these commandments than just the external action

There's also the internal attitude. So anger in a certain sense is connected to murder now to give an analogy to compare the two

You might consider, you know, and often as you read through the scriptures the scriptures will consider anger a fire so think about anger as a fire now, there are forms of anger that are small like There's different types of anger that exists in the world

So like frustration and irritation and annoyance and all this these are what many have described as baby anger

Now if you consider baby anger a fire and you think about it as a fire Is a little fire

You know, it's just imagine like a little two inch by two inch fire by the side of your house

Is that a is that a problem? You know, it's obviously a problem. Is it bad? It's obviously bad but is it as bad as The fire that has grown to the point where your entire house is settled fire

Well, no, I think everyone would prefer that that fire remained that little Baby thing now ultimately if you let it go will not grow and will not grow and will not get worse

Have you not known plenty of people who are dominated by bitterness to where bitterness becomes a comprehensive?

State of their life sure and doesn't that lead to all sorts of other problems sure, but here's the thing

Not all sin is the same. So anger is not the same as murder It's just coming from the same kind of thing.

So both anger and murder are fire You might want to picture it that way But but essentially murder is the fire of anger when it has grown

And grown and grown and at some point got out of control Now one of the things that happens is when Jesus comes along and says hey, you know

Anger is essentially heart murder one of the things he's not doing is is essentially saying that anytime anyone expresses anger you need to put them to death no because anger

You know, it's obviously sinful but it's not sinful to the degree in terms of its functional functionality or practice it's not as sinful in degree as when you take anger to the point where you

Are so mad at a person that you want to remove their existence from the earth So obviously anger when it's metastasized to that level has become a significantly worse moral issue

Now none of us none of us good none of us, right? None of it will justify you before all of it will equally condemn you before Holy God But at the same time there are obviously

Levels of consequences to certain things and if you let your anger get out of control and out of control You should warn people that one day you may commit murder and you you know, you you hold on to that anger

You don't know where it's gonna lead you But at the same time murder is objectively both on a human level and from the divine

Perspective worse than anger now in the same way lust is a problem So heterosexual lust can lead to all sorts of problems heterosexual lust can lead to infidelity heterosexual lust can lead to all sorts of significant moral problems

But then when you when you're talking about an issue like sodomy one of the things you might realize is that Sodomy is also a sin that was listed under the

Old Covenant as the type of sin that if an individual Engaged in it they were to be put to death.

It was a capital punishment offense. So from God's perspective Yes, sodomy is far worse than just normal lust when you let

This deviant lust advance to the level where you actually act on it. That is the type of sin that God tells

That God Considers to be a death penalty offense. It considers it to be an abomination

Now in the language of Romans 1 one of the things that you're gonna find is if you go to Romans 1 you think about what's?

happening Mankind rejects God it refuses to worship God It refused to glorify

God as God or give thanks and rejects the knowledge of God found in nature And professing to be wise becomes fools and one of the things that realize in verse

Romans 1 18 God says this for the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness And men who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth.

So here's the thing Verse 21 for although they knew God they did not honor him or give thanks, but became feudal in the thinking

And foolish their foolish hearts were darkened verse 24 therefore God gave them up to the lust of their hearts to impurity to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves because They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the

Creator who is blessed forever Amen for this reason God gave them up to Dishonorable passions for their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature and men

Likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another Men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error

One of the things to realize is that when individuals are given over to sodomy

This is a particularly advanced form of of the rejection of the knowledge of God It is a sign itself of judgment against of God's judgment against a society

And it's obviously a sign of God's judgment against a society because there is nothing that stands against More against God's fundamental purposes for human beings in this world than the idea of same -sex relations one of the first commands that God has given to the human race is the command to be fruitful and multiply and in same -sex relationships if you want to call them that our relationships which fundamentally stand at Total odds with all of God's purposes and whenever you reject

God's purposes in such a comprehensive way One of the things to realize is that there are there are entailments and there are consequences to that sort of thing

And so one of the things that we can't do as Christians is is to simply pretend as if all sin is equally heinous in the eyes of God and all sin is

Equally as bad it would be far better for a society.

Let me say something. That's outrageous be far better for a society to to Be filled with normal lust than it would be for a society to be filled with same -sex lust and the reason for that is obvious if the entire

Society was given over to same -sex lust One of the things that would happen is the human race would cease to exist.

Okay So this is a significant problem And it's what as a kind of problem that it shows a particular advanced form of rebellion against God and it's the kind of problem that God reserves the death penalty for so we shouldn't in some simplistic kind of way pretend as if all

Sins are the same now Obviously, there's a kind of person who basically passed himself on the back with that kind of knowledge and say hey, well, you know

Thank God. I'm not like these, you know Homosexuals who with their filthy attractions and and individuals like that Maybe Steven Anderson and Westboro Baptist and and you know there are errors that are made along those lines where Individuals like Steven Anderson really do seem to think and in some independent fundamentalist

Baptist seem to really think that sodomy is the kind of sin that results that there's evidence of such a perversion that this person is

Fundamentally unable to be saved and the Bible never describes any class of person as being fundamentally irredeemable

By nature of any sin that they commit. In fact, you know, it's in the

Bible some of the individuals who Commit the most scandalous sins are the ones who become the best followers of Christ and so Part of that is because the one who's been forgiven much loves much and and the worst sins that functionally sometimes people commit in this

Life the more reminds them of grace and the more they're devoted to turning from those things with the whole heart instead of being like The older brother who can't see their own sin and so there's that there's always an offer of salvation given to anyone who

Will repent of their sins and believe the good news and put their faith in Christ this is true for Individuals with normal sexual attractions and this is true for individuals who are tempted towards deviant forms of sexual immorality

There's always hope that if you repent of your sins put your faith in Christ and turn from it That you will be saved but at the same time not all sins are equal and not all sins are equally bad in terms of God's perspective of it or The punishments that are associated with it as well this has been another installment of iron sharpening iron as Always if you would like to have your question included in one of these midweek episodes email us at Bible bashed podcast at gmail .com