Dead Men Walking Podcast & Carpe Fide: Whoopi Goldberg, Truckers, Fauci Fails, & Christian Media

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We got it to work. We got it to go to Jason, is that your new accent?

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It's a new character I've been working on guy that gets on the radio that has a terrible voice.

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Hey, man. Yeah, that's actually a pretty good one. I don't know. Yeah. This is Jordan calling in for this.

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Hey, how you doing in there? Oh, we got voices coming out everywhere. Well, guys, welcome back to another episode of Dead Men Walking.

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The episode that even Marty McFly, you got to listen to the Dead Men Walking podcast, says that you need to listen to the

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Dead Men Walking podcast. And the voice that you heard just now was the guys from Carpe Fide podcast,

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Justin and Jesse. How are you fellas doing? Yo, we're great. I'm better than him. So well,

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I'm really great. Welcome, guys. So yeah, we're going to get into a little bit of stuff about tech censorship, a little bit of social media platforms, how we can protect ourselves, what we should do as Christians looking forward.

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And we just thought we'd have a conversation about it. I know online, Carpe Fide had posted a few things about how to kind of protect yourself against that, you know, the privacy issue we're seeing right now.

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And it just kind of intrigued me. And I met the fellas down at G3 conference and really liked their house, had to buy some of the come and take it

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T -shirts to support that. That's one of my son Oliver's favorite T -shirts to wear.

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We wear it proudly and want to have them on. So before we get into a little newsy news, why don't you guys just give you a little introduction for the listeners and tell us what you're all about?

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Little introduction, not three hours. I mean, you, Jesse. So I'm Justin.

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I'm Justin Gruber. We both reside here in South Jersey. It's different than North Jersey. So don't get it confused.

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It's totally different places. So yeah, don't get that messed up. We're in South Jersey.

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We're both we pastor, pastor, a small church, Missio Day Church. We are very thankful for a committed group, small but very committed group of ever expanding because we take seriously the gospel command to, you know, be fruitful and multiply.

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So they said a little one, a short one. And and basically we we started a podcast.

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He's just getting going. No, no, no, no. This is the whole story. We started a podcast because we we just wanted to be able to edify just mostly just our friends and our extended group here in South Jersey.

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And that accidentally took off and did something a lot more than that. And we were able to just start making

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T -shirts and said, we should use this for something. And we got linked up with James Coats up at Grace Life and his wife,

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Erin. And we use those to basically raise some funds for him while he was in jail, illegally in jail, detained for his ability to simply worship

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God in his church. So that was great. We're able to support them in that ministry opportunity. It's pretty much how we got started.

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Here we are today. That's awesome. Well, brothers, we are happy to have you on. And I know it's going to be a fun episode.

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Jay, do we want to get into a little newsy news before we start? Newsy news. Let's go. News, the news, the news, the news, the news, the news, the news, the news, the news, the news, the news, the news, the news, the news, the news, the news, the news, the news, the

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We do. Yes, sir. We'll just do two quick news stories.

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So we move right along. I'm going to start out with in the news right now when this is being recorded.

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We are in the middle of the Whoopi Goldberg suspended from the view after saying the Holocaust Kost was not a part of the race.

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Did you see this? Oh, absolutely. She has threatened to quit. Now she's mad. I was watching the show as it happened.

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No, I was at the campus. You watch that every day. No, I was in my living room. Nope, no,

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Chris, you should not watch that show. You've been canceled. Sorry, go ahead.

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No, but so we're in the throes of that, you know, and it was just amazing because one, of course, there's a, you know, there's a double standard there.

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Gina Carano, who was on, what is it? The Mandalorian. She said, sometimes conservatives feel like they're in a concentration camp.

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They fired her. Yeah. You know, Whoopi Goldberg goes out there and says, oh, this isn't about racing. I had two weeks to think about it.

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Right, right. Slap on the wrist. And then she threatened to quit. Yeah, now, please. Now she's looking.

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Please, please quit. Oh, darn it. Guys, I want you guys to stop misnaming her. Her name is

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Karen Elaine Johnson. If you cops do stop calling her by her long name. What do you mean her name is not

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Whoopi Goldberg? No. What is this? Karen, so can we talk about how funny this is?

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Karen. That's literally, she is a Karen. Right. Who then, who then stole.

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She co -opted Jewish culture by claiming the name Goldberg. She then decided that Hitler wasn't actually a racist.

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Okay. What happened here, guys? Oh my gosh. Wow. Oh my gosh.

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Why would you start with this, guys? Why? Just to just to make you guys agitated. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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We we usually just try to go a little slow, but this time we're just going to throw you guys in the right into see what happens.

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And running right now, guys. The crazy thing with this one for me was it's kind of like CRT on display.

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Like if you wanted to know what CRT was, the critical race theory, she basically summed it up in that statement and said it has to be.

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If you look white or act white or have a different color skin than someone who is black, well, then it's it's not race and it's not racism.

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And she kind of summed that kind of progressive view up by stating that and then slipped up and went, oh, well,

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I didn't mean exactly that. But at the core, that's what they believe. Yeah. Oh, this isn't about race. It can't be about you. So virtue.

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It is funny how Jewish people are slowly moving into the white category. Yeah. Oh, they they've pushed them right over, right over into our category.

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Yeah, that's true. They get getting slaughtered by the millions gets you nothing nowadays, you know, in my area.

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Sorry. Sorry. I'm pretty sure she explicitly stated that they're white. Like, yeah, it's too it's just too white to be about race.

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It's just like whoopie Goldberg was. It can't be about race. Can't be about race. They're white. Yeah. And the

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Germans are white. It's just you stop doing what the Goldberg that is not even close. I know I can't.

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It's impossible. I cannot smell it at all. So I thought it was.

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No, no, no, that's worse. You're right. If you if you guys have any Sister Act two lines that you could just read with that voice, that's great.

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Wait, what? I'm sorry. Ten top ten movies of all time. OK, now I only remember Purple Rain.

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I just I just wish the board would have took out her race on Star Trek. Maybe that would have.

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Oh, is that too deep? Oh, I know she was on Star Trek. Oh, was she? I don't know. Was she really?

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I don't remember this. I don't know anything about where I get with garbage.

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Yeah, I mean, what I said earlier, I've I've been talking to my wife. I believe if Christian.

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That's good. That's good for your marriage. You ladies know that. Amen. Ladies, if you watch the view,

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I really I really think you need to like start to ponder and meditate on your salvation because it is nothing but a demonic, evil, disgusting cesspool of garbage.

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Yeah. And I mean, top to bottom, if they lose will be Goldberg. They will go down two percent, which will take them.

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We'll take them from overtly demonic, demonic. Right. Down to absolutely evil. That's all they'll do.

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Only a little grand. Joy. Joy could hold it up, though, right? Joy. Oh, my God. Right.

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Yes. I mean, if by holding it up, you mean a pentagram? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe once. Maybe wait a second.

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Is she from Jersey? She's from the north side of Jersey. Don't you? Definitely. So you definitely from the north side.

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Yeah, it's that it's that it's that it's that which president came from New Jersey, right? I don't even want to talk about it.

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But the worst, the worst president, the racist, the racist president came from, you know, which you heard of him.

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Oh, Wilson. Yeah. Awful evil guy. Remember he showed that he showed that movie in the White House. The racist movie.

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Oh, my God. I was a eugenicist. He was awful and evil. We did a globalist. Yeah, we are

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Nazarene. We are Nazareth, OK? What does anything good come from Nazareth? And what fellowship hath light with darkness?

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Exactly. Throwing in the Bible. All right. Well, welcome to Dead Man Walking Contest podcast.

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We're talking about whoopi Goldberg for an hour. Yeah, exactly. Sorry. No, I love it. So here is the second newsy news, which will get us into a little bit of our topic this evening from Deadline .com

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on February 5th, 2022. GoFundMe reverses plans on Freedom Convoy donations after Florida Governor Ron DeSantis promises investigation.

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The GoFundMe website has reversed course and decided to automatically refund donations to the truckers organization, leading a protest against Canadian pandemic restrictions.

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That's after politicians vowed to investigate the website's original plans for dealing with donations to to the truckers.

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And I just wanted to I think you have your mission statement for. Yeah, I want to read a little bit of that mission statement, what they said.

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GoFundMe supports peaceful protests. And we believe that was the intention of the

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Freedom Convoy 2022 fundraiser when it was first created. We now have evidence from law enforcement that the previously peaceful demonstration has become an occupation.

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An occupation. Yeah, exactly. With police reports of violence and other unlawful activity to ensure

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GoFundMe remains a trusted platform. We work with local authorities to ensure we have a detailed, factual understanding of events taking place on the ground.

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So let me read this last sentence. Yeah, so I want to I wanted to get to this last part.

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So let me see here. Given how this situation has evolved, no further funds will be directly distributed to the

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Freedom Convoy organizers. We will work with organizers to send all remaining funds to credible and established charities verified by GoFundMe.

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Yeah, what a scam this is. So essentially, they were collecting small donations. About 10 million dollars worth.

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Then they said, oh, we heard there was some shenanigans going on at the convoy, which haven't been confirmed. So we're going to pull that and we're going to give them to our credible charities of our choice.

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And if you want to fill out this five page application, you can then get your money back. Ron DeSantis said, well, you're a

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Florida based company. I will work with the state AG to basically sue you for fraud. The next day they came back,

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GoFundMe and said, OK, we're just going to give everyone's money back. The end result still being everyone who supported that convoy.

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They're not going to get their money. It's incredible. I actually here's here's what GoFundMe is all about, guys.

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Just let me throw this out here real quick. And then Jesse and Justin are going to go off on this. GoFundMe is an

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American for profit crow funding platform that allows liberals to raise money for liberal causes and shut down free speech or steal money from people who actually have souls.

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So let me just throw that out. In fact, the fact check on that is true. That is true.

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Is that it? So they should have been breaking windows and burning things down and doing all that craziness up there, right?

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And then everything would have been fine. Well, when you guys I don't know, I don't know what you want to do with this, but I just I just sent you guys a tweet on on Instagram.

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It's literally it's literally this pickup truck trying to get around this person that's pretending like it's

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Tiananmen Square. And he taps him, taps him. And it is it's like the worst insurance fraud video ever.

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The guy flies, flies onto the ground. And Rebel News posted it like this.

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This is what they're saying is it is going on as violence. So it's like a fish.

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Well, we'll link it up for the YouTube video so we can see it. Like, oh, yeah, right here.

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Yeah, there it is. All right. Are you serious? Oh, and the guy.

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Does the guy have a Trump flag? He does. Oh, my gosh.

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Oh, silly. My back. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly. And so what's your what's your guys' thoughts on the peaceful protest?

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We covered a little bit on last week's episode. I did. Was that a short? It was a it was a few weeks ago. Yeah, we just had a talking about peaceful protests.

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And you guys have been intimately involved with some of the pastors up there under persecution in Canada. We've interviewed some of those

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Joe Boot and some other ones. And obviously, Aaron Coates. But what's your thoughts on that?

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And someone peacefully protesting to, you know, stand up against the government? I just don't know why they don't have guns there.

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Yeah. So I was trying to give him a nice middle of the road layup, and he was like,

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I don't know why we got a case there. Yeah, well, it is funny because we do talk to Canadians all the time now.

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Like, I honestly don't think I'd talk to a Canadian, at least that I knew before, like April of twenty twenty one.

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And now like half of our listeners are in Canada. And so like we like we follow up really close with all this stuff.

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And it's like it's like that video that I sent you guys that will hopefully be in the link somewhere because it's just perfect.

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Like like this is so they they essentially have state funded news organizations out there that the

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Canadian broadcast system or the Canadian Broadcast Center or whatever corporation. But and it's it's it's like making up letters, buddy.

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Yep. No, it's it's BBC. I know the letters. I don't know the words. It's like it's like that is it's literally a propaganda campaign against these truckers who have literally just parked their trucks there.

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And then the rest is just dancing and hockey games and putting off fireworks. We got videos of hockey games going on, like they just they set up this little spot with that.

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They literally have an HQ there. Their security is run by a former RR, RCMP. Who's having problems with letters now?

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But mouth and police for our former RCMP sniper. Did I hear a niner in there?

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That's a minor. That's a ten ninety ten niner. I am a trucker. I mean, after all, not not not actually like a big big truck, just like a like a small one, like a small brown one.

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I got a ranger. All right. I mean, I work for UPS. I drive. Oh, nice. Yeah. Yeah.

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See that that counts. You do. Yeah. Do a niner here and there. I do a niner here and there.

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So what's your next? Get your next T -shirt. Roger, the the most violence

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I saw was literally. So now the farm implements are starting to get there. So you got farm tractors and hay balers.

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It's great stuff. They're really pushing trucks out of the way. Just real slow. Just like pushing bad tractors away.

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They're just like, hey, we we really wanted to get down this road here. But the most violence I saw, they they used one of the hay, the hay balers to literally like spray hay over a blockade of of our city, our

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MP officers, which is a perfectly hilarious thing to do. You know, you drive your trailer all the way up to Ottawa.

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You want to spray some hay? Exactly. Yeah, absolutely. If I did that, I would shut out the window.

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Sorry, guys, it's going to blow. I got to get rid of this. Hey, she's going to blow. Yeah, absolutely.

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The I heard that Ottawa actually kind of relented. One of the providences there in Ottawa relented and said,

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OK, no more restrictions and no more vaccine mandates or passports. I saw two days ago.

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Alberta, Alberta did. OK, but Jason Kenny, also the provincial premier in Alberta also last year said once they ease restrictions after the spring, like as they were getting into the summer, he said never again, never again with the restrictions.

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And then he re -upped them all. So it's like, yeah, it's like a real you just like it's like,

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OK, like Alberta is supposed to be like Texas in Canada, like they're supposed to be like the the gun totem, whatever.

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And, you know, like from the sentiment, at least from the people that we've been talking to is like, OK, yeah, but let's see if it lasts more than two months, because right now or at least at least at least when he re -upped the the lockdowns, they were the same limits on gathering as they were when

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James was put in jail. Well, so basically there's a lot of rhinos up there where you'd say, yeah, look at a name only.

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There's a lot of conservatives who are not really conservative. They just have the tag, you know? Yes. So like their conservative party, not a single person dissented for that Bill C -4, like the gender, the gender bill.

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It was a unanimous, unanimous, unanimous, which is a new word that we've just made, unanimous, unanimous, like unanimous.

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And right now, right now, yes, exactly. It's unanimous. Yeah, well, maybe they just need to chill out there until they actually see legislation signed.

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So we're not leaving until you ram this through. That's kind of what's happening right now. Yeah, I mean, they said down, they said two weeks to slow the spread.

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And here we are two years later. So it sounds like they're right. The great thing is that, you know, they're parked. We saw the

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Liberty Coalition sent us a picture today of a of a of a truck, like a Ford F -150 or whatever.

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They literally was a ram, but OK, a ram, whatever. They literally took that. Sorry. Weird truck guy over here.

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Like but they literally took the wheels off and shamed them and shamed them to the front of the truck.

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They're like, yeah, we're not going anywhere. Well, that's that's the thing. I mean, with with just switching into big tech, you know, sensory and stuff.

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I mean, like we obviously have all of these different videos. GoFundMe says something like, oh, well, this is like violent and they're doing all these different things.

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They're trying to push this narrative, all this propaganda. And it's like, well, we have like pictures and videos of what's actually going on up there.

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It's like everybody's up there making cheeseburgers on their grill or something. They're like, oh, my God, they're literally tailgaters, don't you guys?

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And it's like it's turning into something that it's absolutely not, you know. But I mean, how how how do we look at, you know, the the discussion of how big tech is trying to spin all of these different stories and make them into something that they're obviously not for their, you know, for what they are trying to do, you know.

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That's officially on the news then. And that was the news. Awesome. So let's get into it.

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So how do we, Jason? Hey, man, I don't have all the answers over here. Well, no, I was told I came on this expecting

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I was told you guys are our guests, exactly how to fix the problems. I'm excited. It's like, yeah, right.

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I mean, I mean, it's it's just a wild conversation because I mean, how how are we supposed to combat that? How do we combat

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Mark Zuckerberg? How do we count? I mean, like, you know, we've we've definitely been suppressed.

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I mean, just because we have brought up Republican ideas and I just say liberty ideas.

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Yeah. Yeah. OK. Yeah, I can just regular general conservative freedom loving or or normal all the cards on the table, their normal thought.

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Yeah, right. I'd like to be an individual. You shut your mouth, Jimmy. None of this is my fault. I voted for Bernie.

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Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Well, you know, yeah, great point and part of the problem.

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And this maybe this I don't know if this will help continue to segue, Jay, but I'm trying here. I think part of the part of the issue is it'll be easy.

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You look at the you look at the riots that happened in the United States over the summer of twenty twenty, the summer of, you know, love and peace and joy in America.

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Sure. And when you see those those protests, we'll say protests. I mean, maybe we'll we'll say protests.

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Air quotes, air quotes. So the protests itself. Stop looking at the video of the guy falling down.

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Gosh, you look at the you see this. We're going to have to put this up. He's gone.

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He's out for the rest of the episode. On our Instagram. I'm sorry. I'm switching tabs.

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All right. So so when you look at how those those went. Right. And you literally have.

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Right. Like JC Penney's is burning in the background. Yeah. You have a like, look, it is peaceful. Right.

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We have a reporter with a gas mask down around their neck. And the chyron says fiery, but mostly peaceful.

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Yeah. With our eyes, we're saying that's just that's just fire. Like right there around.

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And and so it's not even so much that they're trying to. They don't even they don't even feel the need to like sensoriously spin what we're seeing.

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They feel that they can just ram down our throats. What our eyes are literally telling us is happening is not actually happening.

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Yeah. So there's a problem there. Yeah, that's what's disheartening for me is, OK, all four of us sitting in this room, we go, yeah, we can see that.

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But there are millions of Americans and, you know, even more across the world that believe it, that just use no type of critical thinking, no type of logic, no type of common sense, no type of discernment, no type of wisdom.

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Some of those things come from a regenerated heart, obviously. But it's like, what do we get?

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I get really scared of the like to think God gave more common grace than that. Right. I mean,

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I mean, it's it's gaslighting. It's I mean, it's you know, it's like you guys are not by the way.

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Gaslight. You ever see that? I have not. No. You're the second guest to bring it up to. Yeah. I mean, they tell you that you're crazy.

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You know, you're never right. I mean, it's like, yeah, there's so many things. Well, just you know, they deny what you're seeing.

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I want to assume that the guest told you how the movie worked so that we got the term right. Then your audience knows where it came from.

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You explain it for us. But the movie was it with the light? Yes, correct. There was literally it was a man who it was a gaslight.

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A woman fell in love with a man and the woman had come into some a nice. Wait a second. This is already starting out a little weird for 2022.

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Don't worry. It's a black and white movie. The the man comes in there. They're living in the same house once he wants to get.

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That's an old movie. Can we can you say black? Did you say that in context? Did you say that in context? And then he said a man fell in love with a woman.

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What's he thinking? Gosh, we are getting channeled. It was a movie that lacked color. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Oh, thank you.

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Thank you. Better. It's a movie. There's no color in it at all. It's a movie movie of no color. The movie was the movie wasn't colored.

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No, no. Oh, good Lord. Great, Jesse. Way to go. All right. So what I'm saying is he fell in love with the woman.

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They they were he was trying to get his money on her estate. And he would he would turn down the gaslights ever so slightly.

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And when she would say, oh, is it isn't it look a little darker? Should we turn the lights up? And he said, no, he would say no.

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I mean, the lights are fine. It'd be like chilling by the window, reading a book. He was slowly trying to make her feel that she had gone insane, although what she was seeing was absolutely correct.

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That's where we get the idea of gaslighting. And that is absolutely it's explicitly now what is. So what I do with my family, with the thermostat in Michigan winters,

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I just only turn it down and go, what? I haven't felt any change. Well, that's exactly how your winter jackets get put on a pair of socks.

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Yeah, yeah. Well, socks and slippers. What are your problem? May there come on. There you go. No, thank you for that explanation.

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Absolutely. So, yeah, like Jason, it is gaslighting. Yeah, but so so that's that's the quandary

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I get into is I go, OK, you see all these things happening. You see the 1984 Orwellian stuff happening.

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You see the gaslighting, all this. And then you go, OK, what's the biblical response to that? Do we take time out of our day to create platforms, to create types of tech that are

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God honoring and that promote, you know, his kingdom and all those things? Or do we just go, well, no, we're not.

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We're in the world and out of the world. Maybe a misuse of that verse. But some would quote it that way. Just a stooge.

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Yeah, well, that's how I mean, you got to realize, though, you know, I talk to a lot of people that talk this way, that are self -professing

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Christians that do. You know, I'm an I'm in politics and I am a registered Republican and elected official.

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I would say I'm closer to a libertarian conservative. But down here, you have to I align with the

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Republican platform, but the Republicans haven't followed that platform for almost 20 years. But I talk to a lot of middle of the road rhino.

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Hey, I'm a Bible believing Christian. I go to church every week. Yeah, I can quote verses left and right. But their ideology is nowhere near where mine would be politically or biblically.

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So we have a lot of people out there that that are self -professed Christians and that read the

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Bible, but they are being tricked by this or they are taking part in social media, things that are, you know, like you said, gaslighting and all those things.

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So it's like, do we start with those guys? Do we create our own thing? Like, what do you think the what do you think the answer is?

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I don't know. I don't think we're going to solve it tonight. But I just thought that nonsense, everybody's strapping. We got this.

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All right, we're getting we're all getting on Gitter Parlor and anything else that Donald Trump was a part of.

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Yeah, that was a compromise. We are really the only free speech platform and we all know it.

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Oh, my gosh. Guys, guys, it's really what is going on here? Well, I mean, while you're searching, whatever you're doing over there, just the

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Bible carry on. Yeah. Let's carry on. It wasn't a man falling over by some time.

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I was just flipping through this. I don't know. You know, just the word of God. This is whatever

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I have to do. I guess I'm up against here. But I mean, as far as addressing the issue, it's it's it's hard, right?

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Because like the Christian in us. Well, I won't lump you guys into my thoughts.

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The Christian in me says, you know, well, I want to be where the people are. And so, of course, I'm going to participate in things like Facebook and Twitter and YouTube.

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And all of those platforms, because that's where people are and that's where I can get my message out. And I think where I've landed personally, this is just me personally, is

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I will use those platforms as much and as often as I need to or as I'm able to until I get kicked off of them.

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I mean, I don't I don't see I don't see how we can dumb down or water down our message just for the sake of reach, because then the message the message is compromised.

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There's no point. So, I mean, as long as we keep as long as we keep sharing hard hitting truths, whether we're shadowbanned or not, at least those three people that liked it versus the 300 that that that like our kitty pictures, you know, at least at least they're seeing it.

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But so I think the message has to stay faithful through and through no matter what platform we're using, whether that's dab or Facebook, because you're just dealing with different kinds of unrighteousness on different the different platforms, you know, you've got, you know, anti -Semitic people on one and then you've got raging liberals on the other.

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So, you know, and you just that's redundant. You get to at this point, it's the same group of people.

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All right. All right, Karen Goldberg. Well, Karen, but but yeah, so I mean,

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I think that our our call as Christians is always to to be faithful. Faithfulness is the metric. So we have to be faithful on Facebook.

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We have to be faithful on Twitter. We have to be faithful on on Gab and get her and parlor, even though they're lesser free speech platforms than Gab, you know, so that's kind of just put done on the end of it.

27:45

It would have been so much better. Get her done. Yeah. I mean, it would have been just so much better. Why couldn't they just pick it? Exactly. I would have been funny.

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I can't I can't believe that guy is so smart, man. A lot of his stand up later, the cable guy.

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Didn't he? Didn't he invent this? He was so intelligent. Get her done. Yeah. No, he invented.

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Get her right. He invented the whole media platform. Did he really? Yeah. That's how are you? Wait, wait.

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Just shut up. Stop it. You got the inside track. I didn't know about. Yeah, I was about to be super impressed.

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By the Michigan charm. Yeah. Jason gets me one episode. My grandma, you know, she was out there.

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He did a beard. Glasses. I assumed they were super intelligent. But Donald Trump's on Gator now.

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So look behind them. I see books and bottles of possibly bourbon. I'm a bird. I haven't read one of these books, by the way.

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And the one I have, I have had some of those, though. Fundamental fundamentals of theoretical physics.

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I saw that one. I was like, I don't think they did. No, that'd be great. It's a picture book.

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Yeah, it's a picture. I like that. I think I put the neutron. Actually, I do have a book back here called

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Everybody Poops. That's a good one. True story. That's that's one of the most accurate books

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I've ever read. Yeah. Have you seen the one where it's where it's the dinosaur that says that all of my friends are dead? Have you ever read that book?

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I've seen it. I've seen it. Also, a very accurate book about how we need to get that one.

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Yeah. All right. So yeah, try to try to bring this back around really quick.

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I think I said you were looking at Bible passages. I have one. I don't feel like I'm looking up Bible passages, by the way.

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Have you read all my friends are dead? That's. Yeah. But I like everything you said.

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The only thing that really gets me, too, is when when we have Facebook Christians, when you have social media

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Christians, it's like, dude, if you're doing more ministering online than if you're doing more discipling air quotes online, you're posting your verses and your favorite theologian.

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And that's where you think discipleship is and not in person, not to your neighbor, not to those that you come in contact with every day.

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That frustrates me a little bit. And sometimes I see a slipping into that as believers. Hey, I posted my snarky quote or I posted my

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Bible verse or I made my little three minute video talking about whatever. And it's like, that's fine to have that reach on social media.

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I just don't want to see believers slipping into thinking that's where we dwell when we're supposed to be in the world, discipling others.

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The very first commandment Christ gives us. That's a danger to me. But the second part of that is so we do take time.

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You guys think and Jason, I'm asking you, too. You guys think we do take time to create platforms that are

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God glorifying? You think that would be a beneficial thing? And do you think that's supported biblically to do that?

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I think we either create them or join them if they're already there. I don't see why not. So what

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I've what I've been doing is I've been posting like as far as things in written form on all my personal accounts.

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I've been posting them on Gab and I've screenshotted them and I've shared them the screen side itself on Instagram and Facebook.

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Like no text, just just the post itself with the Gab banner on top. Just let everybody know.

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Yeah. You know, like so I mean, like, yeah, I absolutely think that. But I do like like I said, the

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Christian in me says, well, we can't just leave Facebook if there are people on there that need to see truth.

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And if you're going to be on Facebook, you better be speaking truth, because if you're not speaking truth on Facebook, then there's no reason for you to be on it.

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So wherever you wherever you are, you must be speaking truth. But I don't think that you I don't think that you need to be compelled to be on any particular platform.

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I don't think it it did crack me up the other day when Facebook lost like billions of billions of dollars, though.

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That was kind of funny. But there's a problem with that, Jay. They're not the worst one.

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Like of all the ones that we want to lose money, we just need Twitter just needs to literally die. And I like what you did.

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It was pretty fun. Now it should shrivel and die. We throw it out in the trash. Yeah. Yeah. Right. And then we say, who's next?

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I mean, the problem with Facebook, I mean, there's there's a few. But I mean, you know, with with their like you, we have to watch our words now on this thing.

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When they're talking about the jab, when they're whenever you bring up anything about the virus, it's this little, you know, thing at the bottom that says this might not be true, what they just said.

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And it's like something that is data approved from the CDC even. And they want to take this thing that you just said and tell everyone that you're wrong and that, you know, they need to fact check it.

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And then who's the fact check people? I mean, we've all we've all heard about the people that write the editorials.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what Facebook said. Well, and it's like it's like an 18 year old,

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Mr. Paul, Senator Paul. Yes. Yeah, I mean, it's like an 18, 19 year old that's all of a sudden the fact checker, you know, that's that doesn't even know the facts.

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I mean, because I find his facts very accurate and his reporting is very timely. And I think the science.

32:56

That is so good. That's pretty good. I've had too much practice right now about you.

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You have to see from Jersey, too. You guys just had these Jersey men.

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They're all right. Everything you have from the north. They're very tight over the head of the dogs.

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The sand fleas will eat the sand fleas. Do not get out. And this is why we take the vocal cords out, because it's a very it's just not good.

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Did you ever heard Beagle cry? My hypothesis was that it would be quick and quiet. It was wrong.

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It was it was wrong. Quiet. It was very loud. You guys need to get get all the way down to Atlantic City and just go and take that on the road.

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All right. I think so. So the like, it's almost a tying together of what we're saying here.

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We have we have clear biblical principles, clear biblical principles.

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God's word tells us right that we should go and make disciples. It's not even stop living. You just say, wait, we just segwayed from Fauci to the clear biblical.

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That's what we do on the. Podcast. Now, you can't you watch how he's going to bring this home.

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Watch us. It's going to be beautiful. And he's like, the kingdom of heaven is at hand. OK, good.

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Oh, God, God, God, God, principles and biblical principles. And excuse me, excuse the biblical principles. Tell us very clearly with data now.

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So we're dealing with the reality that we are all individuals and that that there there is something clear about discipleship as Christ has commanded us to go and carry his word that requires us to go physically and carry his word, which means we believe somehow that we can better proclaim

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Christ as we as we tweet. Right. Or as we we type a, you know, just a little rant here on Facebook, right?

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That's the better proclaiming of Christ. But we literally leave him in the car as we walk into the local grocery store or into work, right?

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Or or these as we walk into church, right? Like we're so there's something we're missing. Yes, you're right.

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Absolutely. If we're going to be on if we're going to be on these platforms, may we glorify God on these platforms, right?

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Whatever you do, do it to the glory of God, as Paul would tell us. But at the same time, we're more apt to find someone we disagree.

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And that's that's essentially what social media does. It promotes your feed with things you'll disagree with, because when you're enraged, you will more and you're more likely to interact.

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And so we're we're more likely to find find some discussion that we can jump into and tell them they're wrong and think that we're doing a good job with the gospel.

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And again, right. I mean, when we when we engage, we should engage intelligently and biblically right with a focus to give a reason for the hope that is within us.

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And let's do that. But let's not let's not think that's where it ends. Right. Because at the end of the day, we know we're not trying to convince the original poster, right, the

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OP. We're trying to make sure that there's a good argument for those that are interacting. But my goodness, if it's not as important for the person that's ringing you up at the grocery store, then

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I don't know what is and I don't know why there's a disconnect there. And it's certainly it's certainly not the social media wars is not where it's going to be won.

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Yes, we engage there. Right. But if we if we leave that behind, we have failed. We have failed the mission when we're not carrying it into the actual real life that we live.

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Right. And God forbid that whether Greg, Jason, Jesse or me or I or I die.

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And they're like, well, he was a good guy. I don't want to be a good guy. I want to be a gospel guy. I want to be a guy that loved Jesus Christ.

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And that's what they said. Sorry, I read it. I mean, he did. He did bring it home. See, I told you you are a preacher.

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Well, you know, and that's why we appreciate you guys as well, too, as we put bookends on this episode. It's like when

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I was talking to you down at G3 and I see what you guys do online and you're putting your money where your mouth is.

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Right. It's not like, oh, I'm doing this podcast and we're talking for a little bit. And then we make some snarky posts on online, which you guys do.

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And I love and keep doing those. But it's like we're we're raising funds. We're bringing awareness.

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We're supporting ministries all with your T -shirt sales and the things you do in the podcast. And that's why

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I find you guys interesting is because I'm drawn to people of action, right, of people who take the Great Commission and put it in action where we're reformed.

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We're not nihilists. We don't sit back and go out. Well, you know what? What can what can we do? It's all decided that, no, we are commanded to go out.

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We're commanded to preach the good news, make disciples. I've always said we need less pastors, more disciples in the

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United States. I think you guys are two disciples. Well, as a general statement, it's not every master.

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I'm just saying that's the one that hits home. That's I'm just saying everyone has a ministry and as a pastor and half those people probably shouldn't zeal without knowledge.

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Right. My point is your families, everyone. He's speaking our love language. Get in your homes and be pastor dad first.

37:49

Stop screwing. There you go. Absolutely. By the gospel coalition, too, because we are. Are we blocked?

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No, I really I don't think we really even really interact with them online at all. They've you don't anymore either.

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That's a good choice. Yeah, not by your choice, but a good choice. Yeah. But I mean, that's that's why we appreciate you guys, too.

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And that's why I think I think this is a balanced conversation about tech. I don't think we just exit everything because like you guys were saying, we have to have a presence there.

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Right. Truth has to have a presence among lies and deception and all those things. So I don't like it when

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I see these guys go, oh, we're going to go start the Christian this and everyone exit over there. It's like, well, no, we still have to have a presence there.

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But it also has to be balanced that we're just not there. We're just not online. You just said it. We're not going to win the war online.

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We're going to win it by being out in our communities, obviously leading our families as men, as the head of the home and then discipling those that we come in contact with that that lady or that man in the in the store or wherever you're going.

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So I think it's a balanced approach to that. My concern is how is how important do we make that?

38:55

Like we had who do we have on Rod Martin? Right. One of the. Yeah. He was one of the founders or one of the main investors in PayPal.

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Then he he's in a space race right now with his company against Elon Musk. He does all kinds of stuff in tech.

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I mean, he's like, no, he's a futurist. Like we are creating medical devices. We're going to have the tech platform church on the moon.

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He is. He wants to have the first church on the on the moon. Rod is awesome. Yeah. If you guys don't know who

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Rod is. Yeah. Go check him out if you don't. But Buzz Aldrin, Buzz Aldrin already had communion. Great.

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Oh, did he? Did you guys know this? You guys really need to. Oh, man. Really? History. Wait a minute.

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I thought I thought. No, I thought the moon was. No, somebody erased that. And inside from that, they got really ticked at him, too.

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Actually, Neil Armstrong wasn't I mean, he wasn't really ticked, but he wasn't super happy. And they definitely weren't happy about it when from from mission control because it was it's it's there's zero gravity as you're orbiting the moon.

39:53

Right. Yeah, literally. Yeah. Right. The wafer. I mean, these the the people that orbited the moon, most lots of these guys were literally deacons in their churches.

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They were they were serving in their churches and people don't realize just, of course, it's also partly their fault that the church became a social club.

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So, I mean, I don't want to give it like. But at the same time, they were also doing great things. Like they were also. Yeah. But what you're saying makes me think of two things.

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And I don't we didn't bring any Bible in yet. So it makes me feel bad. So Timothy tells Paul tells

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Timothy very clearly, right. To preach the word in and out of season. And that's one of the things that we need to engage in.

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Sometimes it look right now. There is no word that's in season when it comes from God's word. Nobody wants to hear what the truth is.

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But that doesn't mean we don't preach it. In fact, the call is to preach it literally even when it is out of season, when it is not popular, when it is unwanted, because what it really is is needed.

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Right. That's the reality of the word. And so we need to engage with that on all the social media platforms, as well as in our churches, where for some reason we've left the word behind as we continue to go through our church, everyday church lives, as we interact with small groups and as we go on Sundays, we've we've left the word behind for feel good.

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I don't know. Self -help courses. But what we need to engage with here is this other reality. We need to see the times, too.

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So it's not just a word right spoken. It's a word fitly spoken. It needs to actually mesh with what's going on.

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And when we look at First Chronicles 12, sorry, we're going Old Testament as all these different men are coming to David as they realize that God has actually selected

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David. David is to be the new king. Saul is to no longer be king of Israel. You have all these men separated by tribes.

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Right. And they're all good at stuff. Some of them like can like throw these massive spears. And some of them have, you know, thousands of archers.

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And you can bump up to verse 32 and it starts talking about the tribe of Issachar. And it says in First Chronicles 12, 32 of Issachar, men who had understanding of the times to know what

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Israel ought to do. Two hundred chiefs and all their kinsmen under their command. So we it wasn't just they understood the times.

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They knew what Israel ought to do. So what we need to be is sharpened men and women of God who see these times we need to see progressivism as it creeps in because it's creeping in everywhere.

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We need to see things that are false ideologies creeping in from Marxism, like cultural Marxism and CRT.

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We need to see the divisions that's trying to cause and we need to speak the truth back onto it clearly. Right.

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We need to we need to clearly speak that truth. We need to fit it correctly. So if we don't know the word and know what's going on, we're not going to be able to do that.

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So it doesn't mean we abandon social media. Sure, we engage with social media, but we also must engage culturally. Because we're not going to begin to reform the culture if we don't reform our homes and our churches and our neighborhoods.

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If we don't start there, nothing's going to be changed. Love it. That's a good word. I mean, I think maybe we should wrap on that.

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Yeah, definitely. Hey, sorry, I talk too much. I apologize. No, it's awesome. That's exactly what we love.

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That's what podcasts are. People, I mean, it's important to identify some of these some of these men in our culture or men of this car like like Tim Keller and Russell Moore.

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You stop it right now. You stop that. But cut it, cut it, cut it, cut it, cut it, cut it, cut it.

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We'll bleep those two words out. Oh, dude, if you do that, that'd be so awesome. You know, what's funny is when

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James White posted something about Tim Keller making some vague quote or statement and then a day later following it up with some, oh, you didn't understand it.

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I said that was like six months ago. And I was like, yeah, he does kind of do that. And now every single time I see a Tim Keller quote,

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I'm like, That's exactly what he's doing. He does some weird, vague thing that gets everyone all upset. And he's like, oh, no, that's not what

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I meant. And it's like, well, no, you clearly. You know what I mean? He plays like both sides of the coin. Gosh, it's frustrating.

43:39

It's not a doctor, but it's wildly frustrating. And it's really it's it's really disingenuous.

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Like, yeah, like, you know, like and then he gets it. Like, I'm thinking to myself, like the fact that he's responding to these now is like it makes it worse because it's like he's trying to do this

43:59

Trump thing where like he's doubling down. But he's like doing it wrong. Well, I mean, Trump did it wrong a lot of times, too.

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But it's like he's doubling down wrong. It's like like, you know, I wasn't talking about this.

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You misread the context. Here's the context. And it's like, well, no, no, the first post had no context. It was just Yoda talk.

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And it's like no one knew what you meant. Like, here's how you know that no one knows. Here's how you know that he's not getting any point across is when you read the comments and everyone takes away something completely different.

44:27

Yeah. Yeah. They're like, oh, my gosh, that really spoke to me. All my mom's followers and, you know, it really spoke to me because yesterday she said that, you know, she was crying.

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And then you mentioned something about about moisture. And it really spoke to me. A couple of comments down there like, yeah, my dog just died.

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And when he died, he evacuated his bowels and the moisture. And it's like like nobody's nobody's saying the same thing about his.

44:54

Like, you just got to read the comments. And it's like, I agree with you. I agree with you, Greg. Like, it did take me a while because like, you know, when you read it, you're like, wow, that's some that's some next level.

45:03

That's some Christian fortune cookie stuff right there. I feel better about what I just read. And then when like you're reading it and then you're like, wait a second.

45:10

Hold on. I don't have I don't have to think Tim Keller's a god. What is he actually saying here?

45:15

No, go back. No, it's not at all. I love that you're trying.

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It never does. No, no, I was actually trying to search the post that he commented on of ours on our

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Facebook page. I couldn't remember what it was. All of his followers jumped on our. And it was a hit.

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A hundred thousand views. And it was like all his guys were like, you got followers. Oh, they were angry.

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They were just like, you know, oh, look, look at who said it, though. They were like dead man walking podcast, you know, roll their eyes, have that roll the eyes emoji or whatever.

45:47

They're like, oh, you're fine. Listen to this one from his post from his post from January 20th.

45:54

Right. He says, I've noticed a pattern on Facebook. This is my snooty voice. I know this isn't how Tim Keller sounds.

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I think it is. I usually just post here what I've stated in sermons or in books. I put them in general principle form, though, in specific context, a speaker must provide caveats, qualifiers and clarification.

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Is Tim Keller's is Tim Keller's Stewie? I'm a family guy.

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Brian Kudwip. So so he literally and then he puts it in quotes. CQC is caveats, qualifiers and clarifications.

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And this is what I said. I said the problem is that Keller thinks he gives clarifiers, qualified caveats, qualifiers and clarifications, but he rarely does.

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The statements he often makes are pithy, indirect and ambiguous, leaving the reader either going, huh, or has them coming away thinking they understand something brilliant while not really understanding anything at all.

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And this is evident in the comments section where everyone's pulled away something different. And it's like that.

46:53

That's that's just my that's just what's the newest story that just came out with Stephen Colbert?

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He had. Yeah, they're all congratulating. They're all congratulating him. Yeah, exactly.

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Keller's like, I wish there were more people like this out there. Is that exactly? Yeah. Yeah.

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No, it was very ambiguous. And it's oh, yeah, we should engage the culture in this way. And it's you know, and then he walks everything back.

47:19

I don't know how this became. No offense to Stephen Colbert. The man wouldn't know the the Christian faith if it smacked him in the face when he woke up in the morning.

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And the reality of it is I don't have time for someone who I has who has a body of public work, everybody that we can go back and watch.

47:33

We don't have to wonder what he meant or thought we can watch it. It's there on video. Right. Yeah.

47:38

I don't I don't have to wonder what you believe. All right. Oh, no, it was all satire. Well, you should really rethink your entire.

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You can't do that. You can't be all satire and think people can then evaluate what you're saying is true.

47:51

Now you want to go after some sort of clap claptor as you sit there and and march out just progressive ideology.

47:58

Well, I'm sorry, it doesn't match up with what God's word says. You can't hold those views and also believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God and spoke clear

48:05

God centered truth. You just can't do it. It's not possible. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I get pissed me off, guys.

48:12

Stop it again for the second time. Yeah, there was a tweet where it was like Biggie was gushing over Colbert sharing his faith.

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And it's Tim Keller. This is a brilliant example of how to be a Christian. Jackie Hill Perry. Brilliant response. Anthony Bradley, a

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Protestant, would not have been able to do that. And then they post a clip of John MacArthur on Larry King live. Just reckoned.

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Dropping some truth bombs. He's just fired up. And he's like, no, this is how you do it, guys. Yeah, right.

48:37

Oh, you know, my favorite is on Larry King live with Joel.

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I just I'm very careful about saying who and wouldn't wouldn't go to heaven. I just think that only God can judge a person's heart.

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I don't know, Larry. Larry, I don't know. I can't do it, Larry. I just can't judge a person's heart.

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And the best. You guys need to go back and watch that because Larry King is like it's going over.

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He said he's like, but I'm a Jew. Am I going to hell? He's like, but Larry, I can't I can't judge your heart.

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I don't believe in God. Where am I going? And he's like, Larry, let me finish, Larry. Oh, it's the best.

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I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Joel. What are you trying to say here? Oh, man.

49:20

OK, well, let's get some social media plugs out for you guys. Tell everyone and we'll make sure we link this up in the podcast,

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YouTube, Instagram, getter everywhere we post. Tell everyone where they can find you, what you guys got going on right now in your life.

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So we are on Facebook. We are on Twitter at Carpe Fide.

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We are on Instagram, which is where we we have made it so easy. Everybody, if you search

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Carpe, C -A -R -P -E, he cannot let me feed a F -I -D -E. You cannot not find us.

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You cannot not find us. We are the only ones. We are the only ones.

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Amen. They were asking where we go. So we're on Facebook and Twitter. We're also on Instagram at Carpe Fide podcast.

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We're on Gab at Carpe Fide as well. Search Spotify. You can search

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LinkedIn. No, we're not on LinkedIn. Yeah, I mean, you can find our podcast. I mean, everyone always looking for a new job after this.

50:17

You're on LinkedIn. Follow us on Spotify and Apple and anywhere else. I can't listen to my MySpace Friendster.

50:25

MySpace is so much better now. There's it's like nobody's on. It's like so decluttered. I can just do whatever I want on my space.

50:31

Can we tell you guys? Can we tell you guys about what we're doing currently right now? Absolutely. Yeah, just for a hot second.

50:37

So Justin is modeling this sweatshirt right now. And you cannot see it, but it says hold the line on it.

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It's kind of etched into an old style army helmet with Daniel 318 on it.

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Now, Daniel Daniel 318. Nice. That's where Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego are standing while everyone else is kneeling to Nebuchadnezzar statue.

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And the message on this is hold the line. And so what we're doing with this design is we've got shirts and hoodies and we're going to be donating 20 % to they're called the

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Liberty Coalition Canada. They are on the ground in Ottawa right now. And they need funds to keep going, to keep recording, to keep having people there.

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And so we don't like fake news. I mean, do you guys like fake news? I mean, absolutely.

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Nobody, nobody likes fake news. I'm like, wait a second. I don't want to have to think about my new.

51:31

You guys aren't like Jason would be the guy that's like, Jason's the guy that's like, put me back in the matrix.

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As long as I come back with steak and I'm going to have the red pill or the blue pill. That's not even an option. Give me that blue one.

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What happens if I take both? Oh, I did take both, baby.

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So so that that's that's what we're that's what we're doing this month. So 20 % of all any of our funds coming in will go to the

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Liberty Coalition. We also have a really awesome, really rock and abolitionist shirt right now to abolish abortion.

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And we've got 20 % going to free the states right now for that, too. Nice. Beautiful. Do you guys have any discount codes for those?

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Have you ever let me ask you a question, Jay? Have you ever let me ask you a question?

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Yeah. Have you ever tried to print T -shirts like acquire the merchandise and print them yourselves?

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. He was an internationally touring musician. I was in a band.

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So yeah. Yeah. So so then, you know, our discount code is the fact that we take we have we make nothing and we just give money.

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That's the discount code. We take nothing. Well, here's the thing.

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Here's the thing. Whenever someone is trying to sell something or or, you know, have a have a subscription or whatever, you know, somebody is like, can

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I get a discount code from you? And it's like, why do you always ask for a discount code? Like, I'm just trying to sell something, you know, like,

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I'll give you guys a discount code when you put that sticker. I gave Greg a G3 on your laptop. OK?

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Oh, no. I would put it on. You should have gave it.

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Judgment is swift, my friend. Legit. We would love your listeners to know we really don't.

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We this is not a business thing. We just like to give money away to people who actually we make money going to our job.

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Yeah, yeah. We work jobs. No, that's that's what I was saying earlier, too.

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And if for anyone still listening, still listening. Yeah, nobody is. You guys do you guys do it at cost.

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Any money you make, you're giving it to those to those, you know, those people or those.

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What's the word I'm looking for? Organizations. Thank you. You know, I centered godly places.

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He's got all they got these cool shirts with like, you know, the design and the scripture verse. And all we have is like wine.

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I'm dying. I'm Romans nine. We really need to step up our game. We'll talk later.

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We do some design work for you, buddy. Don't you worry. We'll take care. All right. I like it. So offline, make sure you get us all that information.

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We do design work. It's really me. So he just volunteered. I just have the idea. That's awesome.

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Cool. Well, we're going to wrap this one up, guys. We appreciate you jumping on with us, hanging out, having fun. That's what it's all about.

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I thank you so much. This podcast got sideways a few times, but we always brought it home. Yeah. You guys are brothers in the

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Lord. We appreciate you taking time with us. And as always, guys, make sure you check us out. Www .dmwdmwpodcast

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.com. Sorry. Talk a little fast there. And we're on Instagram. Oh, no. Weapons of Mass Destruction. Weapons of Mass Destruction .com.

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Ace is in the hole. Atlantic City. But we appreciate you guys listening.

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Jason, do we have anything else before we head out? Thank you guys for listening. And thank you guys for being with us.

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Check them out. Yeah. As always, guys. Check out Dead Men Walking, too. They're great. They're great. As always,

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God bless. Be sure to follow us on Facebook and Instagram at Dead Men Walking Podcast for full video podcast episodes and clips, or email us at deadmenwalkingpodcast at gmail .com.