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January 12, 2021
Dr. JOE MORECRAFT, author & pastor of Heritage Presbyterian Church in Cumming, GA, who will address:
“HOW CAN WE KNOW if AMERICA is UNDER GOD’s JUDGMENT (Gleanings from Isaiah 3)”
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And I can tell you, without exaggeration, I believe that the question that I am most frequently asked these days, predominantly by other Christians, probably right next to, Why are you wearing that shirt with those pants?
I happen to be colorblind, folks. The most frequently asked question I hear is, Do you think that we're under the judgment of God in America? And today we're going to be addressing the theme, How can we know if America is under God's judgment?
Gleanings from Isaiah, Chapter 3, with a very dear friend, a faithful financial supporter, and also spiritual encourager of me and Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, Dr. Joe Morecraft, one of my favorite guests to interview on this program.
And from what I have been hearing from listeners, he happens to be one of the favorite guests of a growing number of people in the Iron Sharpens Iron Radio audience. He is an author. He is a pastor of Heritage Presbyterian Church in Cumming, Georgia.
And it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, Dr. Joe Morecraft. I'm going to right away give our listeners our email address if they have questions that they want to ask on, How can we know if America is under God's judgment?
The email address is chrisarnson at gmail .com. Chrisarnson at gmail .com. As always, give us your first name at least, your city and state of residence, and your country of residence if you live outside the USA.
Please only remain anonymous if your question involves a personal and private matter. And before we go into the theme, Dr. Morecraft, please let our listeners know, especially for the sake of those who have never heard you on this show before, let our listeners know about Heritage Presbyterian Church in Cumming, Georgia.
Our church is... And if anybody would like more information on Heritage Presbyterian Church of Cumming, Georgia, you can go to heritagepresbyterianchurch .com. Heritagepresbyterianchurch .com. Well, Dr. Morecraft, people have said, Christians that is, Christians who are very often, but not always, from our theological camp of being Reformed, whether Presbyterian or Reformed Baptist, but I've also heard this from fundamentalists and others, that we are under the judgment of God.
In fact, I've been hearing this nearly all of my life as a Christian, that America is under God's judgment. People have often said, perhaps most especially those that are outside of the Reformed faith, if they are indeed conservative Bible believers, but happen to be Arminian or something else, they have frequently said things like, the rampant abortion in America is going to bring us under the judgment of God.
The rampant homosexuality in this country is going to bring us under the judgment of God. And you could go on and on and on with the list of the damnable beliefs and practices that flourish in this nation, where people have said, this will bring us under the judgment of God.
And very often, a Reformed response to that is, no, that is a sign we are already under the judgment of God. But if you could pick up where I just left off, why it is you wanted to address this subject today.
The whole word of God. And in turn, it's about, oh, I know it. And in part, well, confusion. Today, we live in a culture that's trying about our past on purpose, and revising the history of the United States into something it never was.
And it says, now, I like movies sometimes. I don't want to pay to see real life movies. I don't go see where the bad guys go. And they display their sin like Sodom. They don't even conceal it. Now, you can't, sin like Sodom.
Now, Isaiah could have used any city in the world. Sin like the cities of Assyria. Or like the cities of Babylon. Fault in area, men, women, and children. Sexuality is the burning out of man. And it's a sign, says Romans 1 and 18, and following, that God has abandoned the culture.
So he's looking at this apostate church and state and nation, and he says, you are Sodom now. I'm going to treat you like Sodom. You act like my enemy, the Lord says, in effect.
In fact, we're going to pick up right on Isaiah chapter 3, verse 10, when we come back from our first break. And if anybody would like to join us on the air, whether you agree or disagree with our guest, please give us at least your first name, your city and state of residence, and your country of residence, if you live outside the USA.
Please only remain anonymous if your question involves a personal or private matter. That's chrisarnsen at gmail .com. C-H-R-I-S-A-R-N-Z-E-N at gmail .com. Don't go away. We'll be right back with Dr. Joseph C. Moorcraft III after these messages from our sponsors.
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We are discussing the very timely and very important theme that should be in the minds of every Christian. How can we know if America is under God's judgment? Gleanings from Isaiah 3. If you'd like to join us on the air with a question of your own, our email address is ChrisArnzen at gmail .com.
ChrisArnzen at gmail .com. And if you could, before we go to any listener questions, Dr. Moorcraft, if you could please pick up where you left off in verse 10 of Isaiah chapter 3.
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Praise God. Let me go to one of our listener questions. We have Annie in Columbus, Georgia who I believe may be a.
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Spencer Tracy. Sidney Poitier and Spencer Tracy.
The law of God that we love another person when we treat... In fact, we have to pick up.
Where you left off on love, what true love is. When we come back from our midway break. And folks, this is just to remind you the longer break that we have in the show because Grace Life Radio, 90 .1 FM in Lake City, Florida, who airs this show twice a day in a pre-recorded format, they require of us a longer break because they air their own public service announcements and other local things that localize Iron Sharpens Iron Radio to Lake City, Florida, which is a requirement of the FCC.
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We have just a couple more announcements to make before we return to our discussion with Dr. Joseph C. Moorcraft III. First of all, I want to let our listeners know that we've got Doug Wilson coming back to Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, and this is largely because of an article that my guest today, Dr. Joseph C. Moorcraft III, his wife Becky, urged me to read an article by Douglas Wilson, a recent blog article, and it was because of that contact from Dr. Moorcraft's wife that I contacted Doug Wilson and said, can you be on the show to discuss the gods of civil unrest and Jesus mobs?
And so Doug Wilson has agreed to be my guest on Wednesday the 20th of January. I think I may have given a wrong date when I made this announcement yesterday, so this is the right date. I'm looking right at the calendar.
Wednesday, the 20th of January, here on Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, Doug Wilson returns to talk about the gods of civil unrest and Jesus mobs. Also, folks, if you have ever heard of a really powerful, profound, dynamic, biblically faithful and courageous preacher, teacher, and apologist, Vodie Baucom, I hope that you join me.
In fact, even if you don't know who he is, I hope that you join me because you will discover what a gift to the body of Christ he is. If you join me on Thursday, January 28th from 8 a .m. until 12 noon, he is going to be speaking in Mifflinburg, Pennsylvania.
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Some of them are very upset with Vodie for his strong stances against the heresies of critical race theory and the woke movement, and I applaud him and I thank God for him for taking this stance and so articulately and biblically refuting these heresies, these dangerous heresies that are consuming the world and beginning to consume the Church.
Thankfully, we know that it will not completely consume the Church because of the promises of God for the Church. So if you could join me Thursday, January 28th, 8 a .m. to 12 noon in Mifflinburg, Pennsylvania, and if you would like more details on registering, you can email the pastor who's actually orchestrating and hosting this event.
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It's also the email address where you could send in a question to Dr. Joseph C. Moorcraft III, and our theme today is how can we know if America is under God's judgment? It's chrisarnson at gmail .com, and Dr. Moorcraft, right before the break, you were comparing and contrasting the false idea of love being a feeling, and the true meaning of love, which is the rock group Boston used to sing, more than a feeling, if you could.
And it's not even loving to those practicing homosexual behavior to support that, because.
You're helping to support their destruction, not only physically, but also eternally.
We don't want these people going to hell, what they are, let's say. That sounds like Robert Shuler. No. Okay, we have another question from Grady, a very faithful listener and financial supporter of.
Iron Trip and Zion Radio. Grady in Asheboro, North Carolina says, Greetings brothers. Brother Joe, I agree with you that the falling away from the true and living God began in the early 1800s. Christians started stepping out of the public offices and allowed secularism to fill the void.
This led to the lies of evolution into the schools, leading to a disbelief in the Creator. Then we allowed the murder of little human beings in the mother's womb, the breakup of the family through divorce, leaders embezzling, lying, stealing, cheating, and committing immorality for their own gain.
Now we're going down the paths of so-called sexual gratification, and that doesn't seem to end. Do you see this passage in Isaiah where Israel was being.
Rebuked as parallel to Romans 1 and 2 Timothy 3? I do, yes sir, this effect. It says Israel began to fall in the nation of Jerusalem with the founding of Jerusalem. That is, it had to...
Thank you, Grady, for the excellent question. And we have CJ from Lindenhurst, Long Island, New York, who asks, In your opinion, is there any place on the planet Earth that is not under the judgment of.
God? Amen. Could you say that. One of the reasons we're even highlighting.
America being under the judgment of God, not only because you and I are citizens here, but because, as the scriptures teach, that to whom much is given, much is expected. And this country has squandered more opportunities and privileges than almost anyone, if not more than any nation on the globe.
And we went from being such a light, an example to the world, sending out missionaries and people even fleeing persecution because they were worshiping God in spirit and truth in the lands where they lived, would not tolerate it.
So we have this country that in many ways was built upon Christ being the only king and an allegiance to the scriptures as the only inerrant, infallible authority. And yet here we are today murdering millions of unborn children, legally putting a seal of approval on men marrying men and women marrying women, surgically and medically mutilating children sexually because a boy thinks he may be a girl and a little girl thinks she may be a boy, and all these ridiculous, satanic things going on, coming from a land that was and is as blessed as we were and have been.
Amen. Well, we have to go to our final break right now. This is going to be much more brief than the last breaks. If you have a question, please send it in immediately because we're rapidly running out of time.
ChrisArnson at gmail .com. ChrisArnson at gmail .com. We'll be right back with Dr. Joe Morecraft after these messages. James White of Alpha Omega Ministries.
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I'm going to have to repeat that. Can you expound on what Marsonianism is and how, combined with Gnosticism, has emasculated the church, leading us into antinomianism, a lot of fancy Bible book learning words, and pietism that sounds correct to the ears of the simple-minded, but it really amounts to a toxic.
Stew that has led us to our present captivity. M-A-R-C-I-O-N-I-S-M. Marcionism of antinomianism and also pietism. M-A-R-C-I-O-N-I-S-M. So you're talking about the Ordo Salutis. You take the first step, God will do the rest.
M-A-R-C-I-O-N-I-S-M. I'm sure you.
Would agree that you must believe in Jesus to be viewed or to be comforted with the assurance that you are born again.
And to have your sins forgiven. Right. You have to believe God and have your sins forgiven.
Amen. We have time for one more question. An anonymous listener in Canada wants to know, my question has to do more with the church in particular. Does Brother Moorcraft think it is better for Christians to leave churches that are on the edge of apostasy or in apostasy and just join solid churches, or is it worth the fight to try and return these churches to soulless biblical teaching and preaching?
I realize this...
Go ahead. Be separate.
Okay. We're out of time. And I wanted to so desperately get to the point where how does this message, which sounds like doom and gloom, how does this coincide with your strong and unwavering post-millennialism?
But perhaps the next time you're on, we can talk about that. Great question. And I just want to make sure that our listeners know how they can get in touch with the Heritage Presbyterian Church of Cumming, Georgia.
It's HeritagePresbyterianChurch .com. HeritagePresbyterianChurch .com. I want to thank everybody who listened and I want to thank everybody who took the time to write. And I want you all to always remember for the rest of your lives that Jesus Christ is a far greater Savior than you are a sinner.