May 8, 2017 Show with Dr. Stan Gale on “A Vine-Ripened Life: Spiritual Fruitfulness through Abiding in Christ”

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eighth day of May 2017.

I'm delighted to have returning to the program today Dr. Stanley D.

Gale, who is pastor of discipleship at Ironworks Church of Phoenixville, Pennsylvania.

He's the author of The Prayer of Jehoshaphat, Seeing Beyond

Life's Storms, What is Spiritual Warfare, Why Do We Pray, and others.

He's founder and director of Community Houses of Prayer, and today we are discussing his book, A Vine

-Ripened Life, Spiritual Fruitfulness Through Abiding in Christ, and it's my honor and privilege

to welcome you back to Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, Dr. Stanley D. Gale.

Hello Chris, it's good to be here.

And I am as well, and co -hosting in studio with me is the Reverend Buzz Taylor.

And we are taking questions by email.

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And for our listeners who are discovering you for the first time, Dr. Gale, and on top of that,

since your church, that you are now pastor of discipleship, where you are now

pastor of discipleship, Ironworks Church of Phoenixville, Pennsylvania, is a new

work that you're involved in.

Why don't you let our listeners know something about Ironworks Church of Phoenixville, Pennsylvania.

Sure.

Praise

God.

And

this

book

that you have

written, A Vine -Ripened Life,.

A very interesting title, and especially a very interesting subtitle,

Spiritual Fruitfulness Through Abiding in Christ.

What was the catalyst behind your writing this book?

And we do already have a question from Bakersfield, California, for you.

How should a Christian prepare for spiritual warfare when sharing the Gospel

with someone they know?

This is a bit off topic, but you have written on this subject.

Should we just go into a conversation with someone praying that God would save them and then leave it up to

Him, capital H meaning God?

I hope my question makes sense.

And that's Daniel in Bakersfield, California.

A bit off topic, but it is something that you've written on.

That is

true.

It would

not

be only

come by

the grace of God.

The efforts

of the evil and

pray that

the Lord would

be tuned in

to that so

that they could

respond to

the truth of God to

bear.

Timothy, 2

Timothy 4.

I'm

assuming,

going back to the

original topic, A Vine

-Ripened

Life,.

I'm assuming that some of the content of your book takes us to such

places as Matthew 7, where Christ talks about a tree and its

fruit.

And we have Matthew 7 starting in verse 15.

Beware of the false prophets who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly

are ravenous wolves.

You will know them by their fruits.

Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they?

So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit.

A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit.

Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.

So then you will know them by their fruits.

Am I correct in assuming that this is one of the texts that you have drawn from?

Actually, I don't think.

So.

Now,

one of

the

things

that is

somewhat confusing about bearing good fruit,

and especially.

When we have our Lord Himself saying that good trees cannot

bear bad fruit and bad trees cannot bear good fruit, what's confusing to me about that, and perhaps you can help me

out with this, is that the best of Christians sin, and the

best of Christians can even commit heinous sin as long as, of course,

since we believe in the perseverance and preservation of the saints, we believe a true Christian, a truly

regenerate person, a truly born -again person will repent of their sins.

Their lives will not be marked by ongoing, gross,

scandalous sin, but good and godly men and women can fall

into such wickedness, and you also have lost,

unregenerate people, sometimes being better husbands than Christians are,

being better fathers or mothers than Christians are, being better employees or

employers, but you can go on and on with the list of remarkable

character traits that even the lost can give evidence of

possessing.

How do you sort that out when the Lord is saying that good trees cannot bear bad.

Fruit

and

vice

versa?

Well, I

think,

1

John

1,

he says,

when we

die,

the

inner

desire...

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So, if you could.

Summarize what you mean in

your

title

by the

fruit

of the

vine.

Now,.

Obviously, as I said before, you can have lost people demonstrating that they are

in the world's, according to the world's litmus tests,

they can be very wonderful and loving and enjoyable people.

In fact, there are lost people that Christians even prefer sharing

company with, over and above some of those that profess to be Christians.

And so, how are we to be fruit inspectors, if you will,

especially when there are lost people who even profess to be Christians?

There's millions of them out there, and unfortunately, even a number of them who are

televangelists and radio personalities and authors, best -selling

authors, you know, breaking records for sales and so on.

How do we become successful fruit inspectors?

Not that we can know the heart of man like Christ.

We are not mind readers, but if you could, this is, I think, obviously a very important issue

in the life of the church.

Yeah,

and

it

is

sacred.

In

fact,

you

never

see

it.

Amen.

And we do have Joe in Slovenia who

says, Please ask Dr. Gale to address those who do not abide in Christ of John 15

verse 6.

If anyone does not abide in me, he is thrown away as a branch and dries up, and they

gather them and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

Who are these branches, unfruitful believers, unbelievers, or other?

Thank you for encouraging us to abide in Christ today.

It's an interesting question, because for the first time several years ago, I actually heard a

pastor define those branches as unfruitful believers, whereas previously

I'd heard them described as the unbelievers.

But if you could, Dr. Gale?

You don't find...

Or greeting cards.

That's true.

You're not

thrown into the

fire and burned.

You've got a

body, you've got

a husband and

wife,

and

each

one

contributes

until

he

gathers and

burns.

And

I can

pray

for

all my

merry way, you know.

Yeah, would you

say that those who are spreading that gospel of easy.

Believism, it's now known as hyper -grace, they

may have it right on the money that our works do not contribute one single thing to our

salvation.

But where they have it horribly wrong, and even in a damning sense wrong,

is that they really diminish to a radically heretical

level, and dangerous and damning level, what Christ actually does

to the person that He regenerates, the person that He saves entirely through His

grace and mercy and love.

He transforms these individuals.

He doesn't just leave them in their sin.

Was not Calvary meant not only to save men from hell, but also from

enslavement to our sin?

Yeah, that's a great point.

Amen.

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We have a question from RJ in White Plains, New York, and it has

some bearing upon one of the chapter headings in your book, Dr. Gale.

He said, Is it correct when people refer to all humans

as being the children of God?

I am of the understanding that only born -again believers in Christ can call God

their father in all truthfulness.

Can we ever call somebody who is unregenerate and living a life of

rebellion against God a child of God?

And that is one of the chapter headings in your book, is My Father the Gardener, if

you could comment.

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trying to produce fruit, without knowing that bearing fruit means to carry that which God

has produced through the Holy Spirit?

Hmm, that's interesting.

It's probably a rarity, if it exists.

I was going to say, I was just thinking of a way to put that.

You don't, I guess there are some senses of people,

I'm the doer.

We don't get the idea there's a let go.

Do you think something about what Tyler asked, people exhausting themselves

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Just for one example.

Communion, not seeing

him.

Communion with the

person we

need, who is

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And you're mentioning love, and in fact, you have been mentioning love throughout

the interview.

You write of no ordinary love.

The word love is thrown around a lot today.

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How could you say that they are lost?

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That love is thrown around a lot, but you're speaking of no ordinary love.

And if you could be more specific.

We need to learn.

We need to be trained in abiding.

And one of the ways that we abide,

no one,

meaning

it's

not just

now.

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and June 23rd.

For more details, go to thefoundationsconference .com thefoundationsconference

.com and last but not least, there is a conference coming up

in the Reverend Buzz Taylor's Old Stomping Grounds in Portland, Maine.

That's called the Fellowship Conference New England and this is a

conference that used to be held exclusively in Texas and my friend

Pastor Mac Tomlinson extended it a number of years ago to also include a

location in Portland, Maine at the Deering Center Community Church.

August 3rd through the 5th are the dates this year and the speakers at

this year's event include Pastor Don Curran of HeartCry Missionary Society

which is the ministry of Paul Washer and the aforementioned

Pastor Mac Tomlinson of Providence Chapel in Denton, Texas.

Jesse Barrington who is a guest on this program very recently of Grace Life Church in Dallas, Texas

and Pastor Nate Pickowitz who is the pastor of Harvest Bible Church

in Gilmanton Ironworks, New Hampshire very close to

the name of the church where my guest is pastoring and Nate Pickowitz

is going to be God willing on this program on the 27th of June so keep your

eye out for that as well but as I said this conference the Fellowship Conference

New England is going to be held this August and that will be

August 3rd through the 5th at the Deering Center Community Church in Portland, Maine.

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We are discussing a vine ripened life spiritual fruitfulness through abiding in Christ

and please give us your first name your city and state and your country of residence.

If you live outside of the good old USA and

Dr. Gale one of the things that you write about in this book

is joy inexpressible.

Sometimes this truth is distorted

by the health wealth and prosperity movement.

You have all kinds of televangelists offering instant joy as long as

you become a Christian and give them money.

But and you have preachers who are always smiling ear to ear

when they are evangelizing from the pulpit or or proclaiming whatever message they they have

prepared.

And it makes me wonder sometimes on how on earth they can think they are preaching the whole counsel

of God if they're always beaming with a smile.

But obviously this is something very specific you are talking about in regard to

joy inexpressible.

If you could define that more completely.

For you know

for

sandbags

versus.

Oh definitely.

So I'm assuming that you have a different definition for joy than for happiness although they sometimes

can be used synonymously but there is a difference isn't there.

Yeah yes there is.

And you move on to a very related topic

peace beyond understanding which I'm assuming I have to be right this time that you're

speaking about Philippians 4 where we have starting in verse 4.

Rejoice in the Lord.

Always again I will say rejoice.

Let your gentle spirit be broken to all to be known to all men the Lord is near.

Be anxious for nothing but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made

known to God and the peace of God which surpasses all comprehension will

guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

If you could exegete that for us.

The Lord is near

and do not be anxious.

And we want to pray.

Blood gushing all over the place.

And I was conscious

and

lead

me

to

that

passage.

You're just not

apart

from.

And that what things do.

Can I be thankful for.

What needs do I have.

What things is he.

And you know the pursuit of peace

and that excerpt.

Yeah I believe that be anxious for nothing is the command that I

violate more than anything else in this life.

I.

Get anxious fairly easily much to my shame and it's

something that I definitely need the ongoing power of the Holy Spirit to correct in my

life because I'm embarrassed that I get anxious about things that are comparatively very

trivial in this life but this is one of those issues

where we have to be careful.

Although we.

You know reading directly from.

God's word.

That he has breathed out for us in the scripture.

We can take this kind of counsel or even command in our own

lives when we are going through a trial.

Like you are.

But this is a this is where we have to be very careful when we when we seek to minister

to others.

We're not to approach a hospital bed and see somebody lying there with bandages

casts and tubes coming out of every limb and orifice

and say hey I don't hear much rejoicing from you.

Come on buck up buck up.

I mean.

We have to be very careful not to imitate.

Job's comforters don't we.

I don't mind.

And we.

God typically does not give us the grace to rejoice in the midst of our suffering until it happens

I mean we I look upon.

Good point.

I look upon the deaths of some very precious and

near and dear people to myself who have gone home to be with the Lord over the

years.

And if you had asked me you know prior to their

deaths are you going to be able to handle this.

I would have thought no there's no way I could handle it.

I know theologically I'm supposed to and I'm commanded to but I just don't think I can.

Then of course when it happens the Lord does give you He does give you that peace

that surpasses all comprehension.

And it reminds me also of people who have gone through trials and agony much

greater than I have ever experienced and and likely more than likely I would never will

experience people who were martyrs for the faith people who are tortured and unspeakable and

gruesome and brutal ways who are able to rejoice sometimes even being burned alive and

singing hymns which just utterly amazes me.

But when we get to tomorrow we'll find not only one.

Amen.

You have another chapter heading the leaven of patience.

This is another way I fail very often every day numerous times a day

is lacking in patience.

Even though it's not a biblical text I believe that it

could be rightly said that the lack of patience is the root of all kinds of evil.

Because when you think about all the things that we do when we sin when people

have stolen money it's because they were impatient to earn that money.

When people have committed adultery they were impatient about being satisfied sexually in

their own marriage bed.

Or.

Or to be patient even unto being with God for eternity.

Perhaps there are certain people who can't or will never be married and they have to

be patient till they are in eternity.

And you could go on and on with the things that the humans do.

And in rebellion and in sin very often they are tied directly to having a lack of patience

for God to work in a way that gives them peace.

What do you say?

It seems to be the cucked.

And if I could just.

Amen and we're going to our final break right now.

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Welcome back.

This is chris arnson.

Our guest today for the full two hours has been and will continue to be dr

stanley d gale pastor of discipleship at ironworks church of phoenixville pennsylvania

a congregation within the presbyterian church of america more commonly known as the pca

and we are discussing his book of vine ripened life spiritual fruitfulness through

abiding in christ.

If you'd like to join us on the air our email address is chrisarnson at gmail .com chrisarnson

at gmail .com.

And ronald in eastern suffolk county says that i find it most helpful

when i am lacking in patience to remind myself of how patient god has been with me.

A wicked sinner.

Shouldn't that be the key thing that goes through our minds whenever we find ourselves losing our patience with someone

else.

Each

one.

And ronald you have won our last copy of a vine ripened life

spiritual fruitfulness through abiding in christ.

So please make sure we have your full mailing address and we'll have that shipped out to you.

Compliments of reformation heritage books and also compliments of our friends at cumberland

valley bible book service.

That's cv for cumberland valley bbs for biblebookservice .com cv

bbs .com.

Look for that on the return address on the shipping label and uh that

should be out to you within a week or so god willing.

And reverend buzz.

Taylor my co -host has something to say.

Well it just it dawned on me you know one thing that really helped a lot years ago was when i

finally uh asked the question and answered it that when i lose my patience or my temper

or anything like that especially over circumstances that just you know like you know you bend over pick

something up and you can't get it off the floor kind of thing you know and you start to lose it.

Who are you really getting mad at.

You know.

And when i realized wait a minute uh if i if i really believe in the uh sovereignty of

god then the one i'm angry with is god and i have no business uh being that way with him.

That's an interesting perspective yeah.

And uh there's a very common or a phrase that is in vogue i should

say these days uh probably for a number of recent years that uh

people should do random acts of kindness.

But you have a chapter titled not so random acts of kindness or not so random kindness.

I should say oh right if you could explain.

Yeah god's kindness

and kindness.

See one is a

and one of the ways incarnational

now

another

uh.

Very popular phrase is goodness gracious but you have a chapter titled gracious goodness.

You got my attention.

Oh my.

I do

inherit to eternal life.

And jesus why you call me good.

No one's good but god alone.

And of course jesus doesn't say i'm not god he's saying that um you your standard for goodness is

off.

And uh tell us about a great faithfulness.

Now you have a couple of chapter headings that appear on their surface to be oxymoronic.

You have gentle strength and potent humility if you could start with gentle strength and explain.

But

that's

people

like

humility.

Yeah humility is one of those uh attributes that sadly can be

downplayed uh by the world.

In fact the world often looks upon somebody with humility as someone

who has nothing to be boastful.

About to begin with you know you have people who vote for politicians

because they have nothing but boldness and pride and everything that they

believe about themselves or seek to accomplish.

You have teenage girls and sometimes women older than that.

Unfortunately being drawn to men who have no humility but are very

proud arrogant and boastful and for some reason that is attractive in the minds of

some it's something that is constantly looked upon as more of a flaw than it

is a uh an attribute that we should be seeking.

In fact even the whole self -esteem movement seems to

have a reversal in what our priority should be.

I mean obviously uh self -loathing is not a good

uh anecdote for for for uh somebody who has depression and so on or

looks down upon themselves.

But self -esteem isn't the answer either.

Is it.

No because.

In fact don't you think that very often those who have the most

palpable humility are those whose deeds are so obvious and

whose gifts and talents and character traits are so

overwhelmingly obvious that they are humble because they don't need to brag about them.

You know I think a great example for that.

And uh you have two words here in a in a chapter heading that people

usually use as synonyms.

They would see probably no difference in these two words but you contrast them

self -control or willpower.

And

that that

contrast

begun

by the

spirit

unites us to Jesus.

The whole point there is that it's not

a

matter of

just

dependence upon.

You know reformed people often mock the term

God helps those who help themselves and I think that very often it is rightfully mocked.

But isn't there.

There is.

Isn't.

Well I'll ask you I don't know if you would agree with this.

Isn't there some level of truth in that.

I mean other.

In other words.

Even we who are Calvinists and we believe in the sovereignty of God we also believe

in the responsibility of man and we don't believe that men are just zapped by

God and and push through life as we

sit by or or lie back and effort effortlessly go through every

challenge and trial in life as he pushes us along.

I mean we have to battle with things and sometimes that battle is exhausting

and it involves fear and overcoming that fear and it involves

sometimes risking your own life let alone your reputation.

And there are things that are not easy in this life and we're not to be

lazy and I think that that just I'm trying to tie that in there with self

-control and the fact that these things do not necessarily just

easily pour out of us.

Because we're Christian

yes we are totally passive in our regeneration but we are not passive in our

sanctification.

Right.

We're actively involved every moment of our waking lives and

explain grace grown if you could.

A chapter deal

it means

that

we.

Amen.

And if you could in a few minutes just summarize what you most want etched in the hearts and minds of our

listeners today.

Things we didn't

is incumbent upon churches.

It's

incumbent upon parents to

teach each people.

I want our listeners to make sure that they have all of your websites.

I know that the Ironworks Church in Phoenixville Pennsylvania has a website

ironworkschurch .org that's very easy to remember ironworkschurch .org.

You also have a website for community houses of prayer which is

chopministry .net chopministry .net and

of course the Reformation Heritage Books uh publishing ministry that donated

the books today that we gave away.

Their website is heritagebooks .org heritagebooks .org and Cumberland

Valley Bible Book Service where you can order any book by Dr. Stanley D. Gale

regardless of what publisher brought that book into print.

You can go to cv for Cumberland Valley bbs for biblebookservice .com

cvbbs .com.

You have any other contact information that you care to share.

Uh no that's it the the one you mentioned.

Okay.

Books on there and other things.

That's chopministry .net and I also want to remind our listeners

of the upcoming events that I will be attending God willing some of them with

my co -host the Reverend Buzz Taylor.

First of all we have the event coming up this coming Monday a week from today it starts

that the Alliance of Confessing Evangelicals has sponsored that's the Faithful

Shepherd Pastors Retreat in Harvey Cedars, New Jersey and that's

being held in a commemoration of the 500th anniversary of the

Protestant Reformation including such speakers as Carl Truman, Todd Pruitt, John Nielsen, and Amy

Bird.

And the dates on that are Monday May 15th through Wednesday May 17th.

For more details go to alliancenet .org alliancenet .org.

And also all of you pastors and ministry leaders out there who

would like to attend the Banner of Truth U .S. Ministers Conference I will be there God

willing as well.

The dates on that are Thursday May 30th through Thursday

I'm sorry Tuesday May 30th through Thursday June the 1st featuring such

speakers as Dr. Joel Beeky who's been a guest on this program many times Jeff Thomas

who I've also interviewed William Vanderwerd, Mark Johnston who's been on this program a number of times.

Jonathan Master is our guest the day after tomorrow Carlton Wynn and Ian Hamilton.

For more information on this Ministers Conference you can go to banneroftruth .org

banneroftruth .org and click on events and then click on U .S.

Ministers Conference so I hope to see many of you there as well.

And last but not least the Fellowship Conference New England is being held August 3rd through the 5th

at the Deering Center Community Church in Portland, Maine and this will include such speakers as

Don Curran, Mac Tomlinson, Jesse Barrington and Nate Pikowitz.

For more details go to fellowshipconferencenewengland .com

fellowshipconferencenewengland .com.

And that's August 3rd through the 5th at the Deering Center Community Church in Portland, Maine.

I thank everybody who took the time to write questions today and all of you

who listened whether you submitted questions or not.

I want to thank obviously my guest Dr. Stanley D. Gayle and if you could hold on I'd like to schedule another interview with you

if you could hold on after the program and I'd like to remind you all that I want you

to remember for the rest of your lives that Jesus Christ is a far greater Savior than you are a sinner.