January 19, 2023 Show with Dr. Anthony Silvestro on “A Christian Dentist Speaks Out Against the Life-Threatening Evils & Lies of Medical Tyranny”

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Dr. Anthony Silvestro and His Salvation Testimony

I am thrilled to have not only a first-time guest today, but also a friend who's been on this program a number of times who will be joining us as my co-host to interview our guest. First of all, our guest today for the first time is Dr. Anthony Silvestro.

He is the author of On the Origin of Kinds. He is an apologist and a speaker for Striving for Eternity Ministries, and we are going to be addressing A Christian Dentist Speaks Out Against the Life-Threatening Evils and Lives of Medical Tyranny.

It's my honor and privilege to welcome you for the very first time ever to Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, Dr. Anthony Silvestro. Are you there, Anthony?

I am.

Thank you for having me on. It's a huge honor and blessing to be here.

Great. I'm glad to have you on the program, and I wanted to do this for a long time, and I'm glad we finally had the opportunity. And actually, I want to thank a listener for bringing to my attention a recent YouTube video that provoked me to want Dr. Silvestro on the program today that involves our very subject, A Christian Dentist Speaks Out Against the Life-Threatening Evils and Lives of Medical Tyranny.

I want to thank Cindy from Findlay, Ohio, a very faithful and loyal listener to Iron Sharpens Iron Radio. And before I get your personal salvation testimony in summary form, which we always do with first-time guests, I want to introduce my special co-host today, Andrew Rappaport, founder of Striving for Eternity Ministries, and the only guest that I've ever had that interviewed me on my own program.

And it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, Andrew Rappaport.

Chris, it's always a joy to be on with you, and I'll just say for your listeners to pay attention because you're going to hear a lot of things you don't hear in the major media from Dr. Silvestro that is going to make people question lots of things.

So listen carefully, and I'm going to encourage you to download this to re-listen.

And Andrew, if you could, let our listeners know more about Striving for Eternity Ministries since both you and Anthony Silvestro are speakers for that ministry.

Yeah, it's a discipling ministry. We go to churches and do weekend seminars to train people, to equip them to disciple, give materials to disciple. We do podcasts. Anthony and I do a regular podcast Thursday nights called Apologetics Live.

Go to ApologeticsLive .com. We answer any question anyone has about God and the Bible. Sometimes unexpectedly have debates where people, atheists, come in and want to debate.

With us.

But you can always go to StrivingForEternity .org and get all the information.

StrivingForEternity .org. Well, as I just mentioned, Dr. Silvestro, we have a tradition on Iron Trip and Zion Radio. Whenever we have a first-time guest, that guest gives a summary of their salvation testimony which would include any kind of religious atmosphere in which you may have been raised, if any, and what kind of providential circumstances our Sovereign Lord raised up in your life that drew you to Himself and saved you.

So I'd love to hear your story now.

Yeah, absolutely. So I will say this. By my name, most listeners probably be able to tell I'm an Italian, which means that by birthright you are automatically a Roman Catholic. Usually.

Usually.

I did know.

Usually.

I did know a family of Italians from the town in which I was raised, Amityville, Long Island, who are actually Jehovah's Witnesses.

Yeah, you find some outliers here and there, but most of us are Roman Catholic, and so when you're Italian Roman Catholic, what that means is you grow up, and if you're a good Italian Roman Catholic, you go to church not just twice a year, Easter and Christmas, but you go a third time, which is Palm Sunday, because you've got to get your palms and make it into a cross, right, make one more idol for yourself.

We actually, I often joke with people about this, but it's actually really true that a lot of Italians really go to church more for funerals and weddings than they do church on Sunday. And that's the way I was raised.

So it was with a belief in God. We went to PSR classes once a week growing up until we could get confirmed in eighth grade and not have to go anymore. And that's what I grew up doing. And in doing so, I grew up really as a person who knew God exists, which Romans 1 would tell us anyway, but somebody who, God was in the background and I was just going about my life.

And because I'm a dentist, I went through all kinds of science classes growing up, making me somebody who believed in evolution and trusted in evolution, even though I had this cursory understanding of God.

And yes, I prayed a lot, even as a Roman Catholic, but I was completely living like the unbelieving pagan that I was. And so I did this through high school, college, dental school. And right after I graduated dental school is when I started to get convicted of my sin and wide ranging sins, of course.

But what was interesting is that I hadn't gone to church in years through college and dental school. And then when I, after I had graduated, I'm like, you know, I want to get married soon. And I knew that when I have kids, I want them to be raised in the church.

And so I actually started going back to the Roman Catholic church and it was dry as always. But I do believe that that was God calling me to him because it was shortly thereafter going to the Roman Catholic church that I had met, who is now my wife.

And some of her friends were witnessing to me and I got convicted of my sin and I got saved that process. And what was really interesting is that at first I was trying to disprove the Bible and improve evolution.

And I was doing so by reading the Bible and it was in reading the Bible that I became convicted of my sin and knew that what I was reading was true. And so that's actually how I got saved was through that.

And what was really interesting is I had come across Ray Comfort's ministry really early in my walk and started witnessing to people, handing out gospel tracts. And it was only a couple of years after I had gotten saved that I went through the Creation Museum for the first time.

And that's when I had a chance to meet Dr. Jason Lyle and have a long talk with him that.

Day.

And I walked out of the museum thinking I have to rethink everything I ever learned. I actually told my wife that. And I spent many, many, many hours studying over the next six months of young earth creation.

So God took me from an evolution believing, what I would call atheist who pretended to be a Roman Catholic, which is still a false religion, and turned me into not only a Bible believing Christian, but also one that fervently teaches on the book of Genesis and knowing that the entire Bible really hinges on having a proper understanding of the book of Genesis.

And so that, in brief, is my testimony.

I do want to do a little bit of damage control for the sake of my Roman Catholic listeners who might be more religious and dedicated than you were growing up. I myself was a part of a family that was very religious.

And I attended the Roman Catholic Mass every Sunday. In fact, I was in Catholic elementary school from first to eighth grade. And I was an altar boy. So my experience was slightly different. I was not a nominal Catholic, and my family were not nominal Catholics.

In fact, my mother was a Roman Catholic. My father was an Episcopalian who later converted to Roman Catholicism when I was a teenager. But I just wanted to throw that out there, lest some of the more dedicated Catholics think that we are portraying them all in the same light.

I do want to, though, concur with my guest that any form of genuine Roman Catholicism that is faithful to the dogmas of the Council of Trent is a false church. It's a false gospel. And if you are in that state of believing in the Roman Catholic gospel, which very few Catholics today would be even taught, not only would they not be taught the scriptural gospel, they wouldn't even be taught what Rome has historically taught, especially with the most liberal pope that they've ever had.

But whether they be in a liberal Catholic church or even a historically traditional Catholic church, both gospels are false and damning. And you need to be rescued from that false institution by the grace and mercy and love of Christ.

So I just wanted to make a little bit of a clarification on where I came from as a former Roman Catholic. And so how did you come to embrace the positions theologically that you now love and to which you are dedicated to?

Well, I would say that this is all due to really good discipleship that I've had, and I've had some great people over the years that have poured into me and spent a lot of time. Our co-host, Andrew Rappaport, being one of them.

So that, you know, it's really it's discipleship and then a lot of self-study that went along with that. And I do believe looking back on my life as being an ardent evolutionist and God flipping my position 180 degrees to where I'm at is all by the grace of God.

Now, how did you meet Andrew? How did you become aware of his existence?

So this is going to be a funny story that Andrew could probably tell better because it kind of affected him more than it did me. But I had learned early on after I had gotten saved, I got into creation, I also got into presuppositional apologetics.

I got into presuppositionalism, of which I also believe that that is the best apologetic method for us to use as Christians. So I was teaching on presuppositionalism in the Cleveland, Ohio area at a very low level, something that I don't think most presuppositionalists are able to do.

And so I was teaching this and I was teaching this at a small conference to which somebody at this conference, Jennifer Pepling, came up to me afterwards and says, I've heard so many people, and she mentioned all the popular names, so many people teach on presuppositionalism, I've never understood it until now.

I need you to come speak at my conference. And it was a few months later, it was an evangelism conference, and lo and behold, I was one of two speakers there. The other one was Pastor Andrew Rappaport.

And I found out that I was actually kind of terrified I was going to be speaking with him because I had met him very briefly, two different occasions earlier than that, at a conference that he and I both attended.

And then a couple months after that, I went to a Strive for Eternity, what was called a FIRE conference at the time, and met him very briefly there as well. And so I was a little intimidated going to a conference now that I was speaking with him as the only other speaker.

And so when we showed up, I was given the time slot of 8 to 10 a .m. to teach on the book of Genesis and presuppositionalism. He was given a time slot from 10 to 12. And this conference was a conference where the organizer said, hey, take your time, answer any questions, and I can adjust the schedule as we go.

So each day, I ended up finishing not at 10 a .m. when I was supposed to finish, but at noon, which means that I took my time slot and all of Andrew's time slot each of the three days of the conference.

And so he had to rush his teachings afterwards. And I learned a hard lesson over that weekend. Andrew ended up talking to me afterwards and very gently, and he says, hey, I'd love to have your phone number and talk to you next week.

I have a heart for guys like you who are starting out in ministry and like to disciple people like you. So if I can have your number, I'd love to talk to you next week. And sure enough, we talked next week.

And the first major lesson he had to teach me, and it took a while to sink in, was make sure I stuck to my time that I was given in a time slot of the conference. So that was my introduction to.

Andrew. Well, I am excited about this topic. And when I say excited, I'm also very frustrated. I'm disheartened. I'm enraged. I'm infuriated. But I also have that all tempered and buffered by the glorious, comforting, emboldening knowledge and my firm belief that our Sovereign Lord will have victory over all of this.

But the reasons that we're having this conversation today are indeed infuriating. But tell us first of all, and of course, Andrew, whenever you find an opening in a sentence or so forth, if you want to join in with your own questions since you're my co-host today, give us, Dr. Silvestro, the first thoughts that you had in your head when you began hearing about the coronavirus and when people started speaking in the news about what politicians were intending to do.

And then you hear the politicians themselves laying down mandates about mask wearing and then later vaccinations and so on. Tell us about all of this chronologically, you know, your first thoughts when this first began occurring.

And I want to remind our listeners that you are a dentist, somebody who sits in front of, in fact, at very close, extremely close proximity to people with their mouths gaping wide open as a dentist. So tell us about your first thoughts and the way this thought process began to develop, perhaps from one thing.

To another. Absolutely. So if I can, I'm going to give a little bit of my background as a dentist just to make this a little bit more make sense. So I am not a medical doctor. And so I want to make sure I have that very clear.

I'm a dentist. Dentists do go through a lot of medical training in dental school. In fact, we get a lot of medical training, plus all the dental, whereas medical doctors get like literally two courses, actually two one-day courses on dental and the rest of theirs is medicine.

So we actually have a more well-rounded education. I've been a dentist, this is my 20th year practicing. I still practice part-time. I had to slow down a couple of years ago with pretty nasty thumb arthritis, but I'd still practice part-time.

And about 15 years ago, I made the commitment to holistic dentistry for other reasons that probably won't come up today. But so I practiced very holistically for the last 15 years. And what drove me into this overall is medicine and dentistry in general is symptom based, especially medicine, right?

So somebody comes in and they have symptoms of a disease, but the diseases never get talked about. They never really get treated, the underlying conditions, it's only the symptoms. And one thing that really disheartens me in medicine is that when somebody comes in with the symptom of high blood pressure, medicine treats it as the disease, here's a medication for your high blood pressure, and now they look like heroes.

In reality, if you talk to the DOs, doctors of osteopathy, instead, they would recognize that high blood pressure is a symptom of an underlying disease, not the disease itself. And then the medication, if you can cover up symptoms all day long, but the disease process still rages on.

And so I practice dentistry very similar where I looked at causes of whatever symptoms they had going on, whatever I saw going on in their mouths, what is the actual cause beneath the surface? And so that's where my training has been very valuable in the last 15 years is the disease behind the symptoms.

So I say all this because when 2020 comes around, and we have this, what they were calling a pandemic on our hands in March of 2020. And of course, none of us knew what was going on, right? They tell us there's this novel coronavirus.

And coronavirus, by the way, is a really old virus. We know about the it's different types of coronavirus that are out there. It's been well-researched, well-documented. But this was supposed to be a novel coronavirus, to which they were postulating that the incubation time was somewhere up to seven days, and then somebody would get sick, and then they could be infectious for another seven days or so, making the period to be a 14-day period that somebody could theoretically have the disease or have the sickness, whether they had the symptoms or not, and then be able to transmit it to somebody else.

So that's what we knew right from the get-go, or at least what we thought we would know right from the get-go. And so when they made the announcement to shut down the country within a few days after their original announcement, there were those of us who thought it was kind of odd, because they said, we're going to shut down the country, but we're not really shutting it down.

We're going to allow big stores to stay open, grocery stores to stay open, different things to stay open, and we're just going to shut most things down and let it ride. And they said that in conjunction with their fear was overrunning the hospitals.

And so you may remember this term called flatten the curve. So they were all about flattening this curve, meaning that they wanted to control how quickly people were getting infected and the amount of people that were getting infected in certain time periods so that people would be able to get into the hospital, get treated, and get back out of the hospital as the new wave of people come in.

And so if you flatten this curve, then we have enough hospital beds in order to be able to treat people as they get sick enough to have to go to the hospital, and we should be good. So they believed that flattening the curve in combination with shutting down most of the country was going to accomplish the goal and be able to fix the coronavirus pandemic that they were calling it.

So having said all this, guys like me were sitting back and other holistic medical practitioners were sitting back saying, well, okay, first and foremost, if it's true that it's a seven day plus seven days, a 14 day total for being infectious, wouldn't it make more sense if we just told everybody, look, go out, buy all the food you need for the next 14 to say 18 days, and then we actually shut down the country for the next two weeks, which means then that everybody who is sick or got infected in those couple of days is now going to be quarantined inside their house with their family members.

If you're going to get sick, you get sick. And then you ride it out. If people need to go to the hospital, let them go to the hospital, keep the doctors there for those two weeks so they can sleep off and on on the clock.

And in two weeks, this pandemic would have been over with because you would have burned out the coronavirus in those 14 days. And we would have been done open up the country coronavirus would have been over with.

That's of course not what happens, right? We kind of left the country open, which is fine, a couple of country open, let people grocery shop, let them go to Home Depot, what they call essential businesses.

In the meantime, what the government polled was something really sinister. Because they were showing us pictures constantly on TV of hospitals looking like they're overrun, people sitting in waiting rooms, people in hallways on beds, they couldn't find enough beds for people to be treated.

They didn't have enough ventilators didn't have enough, you know, fill in the blank. What they didn't tell you is that around the country, the government closed many, many hospitals. They literally hand selected which hospitals were going to remain open, and which ones were going to close.

So I have friends around the country, doctors and nurses who were literally either laid off or furloughed, because their hospital was shut down during COVID. So now we've shut down a large percentage of hospital beds right off the bat, as we are starting to treat for coronavirus.

The other thing they did is the hospitals they left open, you would think that of all the floors in there, they would have they would have opened or kept open every floor and use every floor as a treatment center for coronavirus.

Instead, what they did is they shut down most hospitals, most of their floors and only left open their emergency and triage rooms and maybe one other floor while keeping the rest of them while closing the rest of them down.

So what what happened with the government hospital system is, is they made this pandemic look a whole lot worse. And I hate calling it a pandemic. I'm just using it for ease of terminology. They made it look like a pandemic because they had they had only a small fraction of hospital floors open around the country that normally would be open for business.

And that's what happened early on in the coronavirus. So guys like me sat back for the first two to three weeks, when they told us 15 days to flatten the curve. And then we were going to start opening the country back up again.

15 days passes. I know and many other people know that they closed down many, many rooms and many floors throughout the country. 15 days passes and now all of a sudden the government changes their course.

It was not about flattening the curve anymore. It was actually about we don't want this many people dying. In fact, we don't want anybody to die from coronavirus. So now lockdowns started to come in even harder.

And that's when a lot of us said, okay, hold up. Now we've got a problem. The government hid the fact they closed all these hospital rooms and floors of hospitals and closed a lot of hospitals just altogether.

And number two, now they're changing the goalposts. They're moving the goalposts. They're changing what their original goal was. And they moved it to a different type of goal after these 15 days were up.

And so that's what it got a lot of us alarmed right off the bat. I'll throw one other thing in there is the whole mask issue. Because it was after the 15 days that they started to talk about the idea of mask usage.

And what's interesting is that guys like me who are dentists, we face of all the professions, medical professions out there, we are the ones who face biological aerosols more than anybody else. And so who better than asking dentists who know the research about aerosols?

And so what doctors were claiming, what our infectious disease doctors were claiming, what Fauci and others were claiming is that we had aerosols of coronavirus that needed to be stopped. And so therefore, we need to start wearing masks to stop the aerosols and we can stop the spread of coronavirus.

However, those of us who follow the research, and again, I've been a dentist now, this is my 20th year in practice. Go back three years and it was my 17th year of practice or 18th year of practice back in 2020.

And if any dentist knows this research, when you're in dental school, you read all kinds of research regarding mask usage. And we know that masks don't stop aerosols. In fact, every mask box that you read for medical masks says it doesn't stop aerosols, it doesn't stop viruses.

You could go on to mask manufacturer websites, shows it doesn't stop aerosols, doesn't stop viruses. You go to the CDC website and see the exact same thing. And how do I know? Because I actually did this in April of 2020 and May of 2020.

And I did Facebook live videos on this, which no longer can be found, some of them anyway, some of them are still up. But I did Facebook live videos, actually going to the CDC website and different mask manufacturer websites through the CDC website to show that masks are useless against aerosols and viruses, which is concurrent with exactly what we were taught in dental school, that masks don't work for aerosols.

In fact, we are supposed to take what are called universal precautions as dentists, that as we are drilling on teeth and creating aerosols of patients' blood and saliva, we are supposed to be careful because masks don't work.

If patients come in sick, we're supposed to send them home. If they have infectious diseases like tuberculosis, we're not supposed to treat them. Why? Because these things are very infectious and they go right through your masks.

So I say all this because a lot of doctors and dentists like myself were speaking up about mask usage when Fauci and others were talking about masks. And so you noticed at that point then the media and others change the narrative.

They started to say, okay, well, it's not about the aerosols. It's about the droplets. And see, masks can stop droplets. Okay. Masks stop droplets. And they are correct to a degree. But what I was telling people is this, when you go to a public restroom and you just got done washing your hands and you're now drying them underneath the hand dryer, where does that water magically go from your hands within five to 10 seconds?

It gets evaporated, otherwise known as aerosolized. And so that water gets aerosolized almost immediately. Well, guess what happens to the droplets in your breath as you're breathing into a mask? Guess what happens to the droplets from sneezes and coughs that you cough into a mask or sneeze into a mask?

Those droplets, as you're breathing 98 .6 degree air in your mask, you have now aerosolized those droplets within seconds and breathing them right out, showing that masks were essentially useless for the use of COVID.

Not to mention they are breeding grounds for bacteria and viruses and fungus. People were not switching their masks the way that we do in dentistry and medicine. In dentistry, you're supposed to switch your mask out every 15 to 20 minutes because of aerosols and droplets that you're producing as you breathe normally.

If you sneeze or cough in a dental office with a mask on, you're supposed to change your mask immediately. None of these rules were being followed when Fauci and Gang were telling.

Us to wear masks throughout society outside. In fact, pick up right where you left off when we return from our first commercial break. Absolutely. Dr. Fauci and the inconsistency with the mask mandates and so forth in doctors' offices, dentists' offices.

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