A Remote Dividing Line that Did Not Look Remote

Welcome to The Dividing Line. My name is James White and should look sort of normal but not really normal today. We're doing a little experimentation today. I hope you can work along with us. We have been working for a long time on getting a way of being able to do the program while traveling and we've ordered stuff and I guess the first time we ordered one thing it like ended up in Botswana or something, who knows.

But we eventually put together stuff and what's going on is tomorrow evening at six o 'clock pacific time, nine o 'clock eastern time, I'm pretty sure about that, we have a discussion roundtable slash debate going on on apologetic methodology.

Four different views, I think there's only three different views, there's four different people and so that's going to be being done the same way we're doing this. I'm not actually in the studio. I'm actually in my house and for example tomorrow night this is what I will be doing, the roundtable like this with my library and then here is my prediction for the October surprise.

I said we're gonna have multiple October surprises, it's 2020. We'll probably have a daily surprise all through October but this is my big prediction for October, will be an invasion by the Borg where we will all be assimilated.

So that's what we're doing today and I sort of thought well the dialogue tomorrow night is going to be being done in the same way we're doing this. I'm zooming into the office and then we're using a program to put that out to YouTube and that's how you're able to see it without being connected up with Zoom.

That's the same thing for tomorrow night. The four of us will be zoomed into one meeting and then that will be put out toward you on YouTube. I've already posted the link to the, they've already put up the YouTube link for tomorrow evening so you can set a reminder and all the rest of that kind of stuff.

But my thinking was yeah okay so we had tested this briefly yesterday, one person, five minutes but it's never the five minutes that goes wrong, it's the 55 minutes that goes wrong or the two hours or however long the conversation is supposed to be tomorrow evening.

So I thought let's give it a little bit more of a test, see what else could happen. I mean my experience in sound at a large Baptist church years and years ago proved to me that everything can be working fine while you're testing it and then once it's game time everything changes.

So we decided let's give it a shot and later we're going to look at maybe having a phone caller or two because it would help if I can make sure that the back and forth as far as being able to hear works really well too.

So there you go that's why it looks a little a little bit different but that's the right background anyways but you'll notice the warp core is not moving. So I can fix that. I can actually do, I could actually make a video that would do that and I'm not sure even how to turn, I don't think I can turn all that stuff off.

If I mute it then I can't hear anything so you're probably gonna hear a few beeps and blaps and stuff during the program but no one's ever died of bleeps and blaps. Anyway you probably saw it, I certainly saw it yesterday it was posted a talking about race from the NMAAHC which is the National Museum of African American History and Culture in Washington DC and what really struck me this graphic look it up it's everywhere it's it's all over Twitter it's all over Facebook it's everywhere but aspects and assumptions of whiteness white culture in the United States and of course anything that's white is bad now but what was really interesting was the stuff that was identified as being white culture.

Bob Gagnon put a Facebook article up about this and he sort of put it all together. If a white supremacist group said that whiteness was characterized by rugged individualism self-reliance emphasis on scientific method objective rational linear thinking preparedness planning for the future self-control delayed gratification a strong work ethic work before play optimism tomorrow will be better monotheism focus on a single god concept punctuality follow rigid time schedules and politeness be polite therefore implying that blackness entailed dependency on handouts irrational thinking short-sightedness and absence of self-control laziness pessimism polytheism animism lateness and rudeness they would be roundly denounced for their stereotyping racism and of course he's right but that's exactly what is in this graphic from the National Museum of African American History and Culture.

It is amazing. And what needs to be recognized I think it's very very important to see here. And what needs to be recognized is they specifically identify the protestant work ethic they specifically identify hard work work before you play delayed gratification like making maybe even having a savings account or basically being an adult as aspects of whiteness.

And the thing that we need to recognize I think and the author of this did recognize it because they they mentioned Christianity more than once what the scriptures identify as evidence of the spirit self-control sanctification mortification of the flesh discipline this identifies as whiteness.

Well what's what then if you get rid of whiteness if you you know we have entire cities right now forcing their employees to go through sensitivity training to rid themselves of their whiteness. So they don't show up for work on time.

Now is that is that how that that's supposed to work. How how does that show respect for anybody else. I've never understood that. I mean we we all know people who can't get anywhere on time and we always wonder you know once or twice I get it you know all of us have been late due to unforeseen circumstances.

But when you've got someone who's always late just always late that's a character flaw. That's a lack of preparation. That's really honestly not showing respect for anybody else. I mean if you're a teacher you need to be on time.

If you respect your students if you are an employer you need to be on time to open the place up. You don't want your your employees standing outside waiting for you to show up if you're the one that ends up opening things up etc etc.

This is just simple adulthood. And it's interesting to me that the same time something like this comes out you may have just seen and this one really caught my attention. The video from an airport I don't know which airport it was.

I know they were going to Philadelphia and there was a delay shocking. That's never happened in an airport before. And here you have a group of black women young women probably late teens early 20s maybe mid -20s attacking the employees of the airline a spirit airline punching them swinging throwing stuff just going nuts over a delayed flight.

Now part of this is just simply the the raising of the hand of of God's restraint of evil. I mean it's just have I said I think I've mentioned this before. Has anyone else noticed this. Everybody is driving 10 miles per hour faster on the freeway now just over the past few weeks you notice that I mean I set my I've got a Subaru Forester.

I love it's beautiful. It's an awesome vehicle and it's super geeky and it has the interactive cruise control stay in your lane all that kind of stuff and I love it but I set it for the same speed to get out to church on a Sunday afternoon because we meet at four o 'clock to get to church on a Sunday set for the same speed and now I feel like I'm in Sun City or I'm the Sun City driver and everyone's just going right past me and I've set it for the same speed that I've been setting it for for ever since we started going out there and now it's 10 miles an hour slow and it just seems like everybody's like well we're defunding the police.

The police aren't going to bother me so I'm just going to go ahead and start throwing things and beating people up and and everything else in the process. But the in that video it was a group of black women who were I think attacking at least one black poor black woman who's working for the airline.

And by the way the poor person at the gate has nothing to do with anything. They can't they can't make planes land faster. They can't they can't get ground stoppages clear they they can't take care of gate issues as far as what gate the planes coming into if the gates are not available and they they can't do anything blaming them and going after them is just dumb really is.

But anyway it did seem that what this graphic was saying had communicated to those young ladies because they weren't doing any of the things that self-control and all the rest of that stuff though interestingly enough they were demanding that the airline be white because they wanted the flight to be what on time.

Oh wow this stuff and again this stuff has been out there. We've actually been pointing to this stuff but it always seemed like it was just on the fringes someplace. It's not on the fringes anymore. It's not on the fringes anymore.

It's becoming absolutely mainstream and that's rather frightening. So it's interesting what you're seeing then is an identification of the fruit of the spirit with whiteness. Now what do you think that's intended to do.

What do you think that's intended to do this morning let me see if i can pull it up here. I thought i had left that i thought i'd left that up. One of the problems having this is you've got i've got stuff everywhere and it's right in front of me so i i can't keep looking at the camera and i'm trying to pull stuff like this.

But this morning tom buck well actually he sent it to me last night. Tom buck was is talking right now about a lecture on hermeneutics from southeastern baptist theological seminary and he has posted some videos of a black woman professor who is talking about african insights into biblical interpretation.

Now we live in a day where people are literally saying that everything needs to be decolonialized whatever in the world that means i suppose in the united states that would mean you tear everything down.

We've built and everybody lives in log cabins or something. I don't know. But we've heard of people saying in africa for example people saying we need to get rid of western science and mathematics because it's colonial.

And you're you're just going but that's where the hospitals come from and the medical advances and electricity and cell phones. And you sure you want to get rid of that. Because i'm without mathematics none of that stuff works.

I hate to tell you that but sort of dependent upon that. You know doing math and again going back to the graphics you know education-based that kind of stuff. Do you really want to get rid of that. And so we've started seeing people teaching things in our various sundry seminaries and institutions of higher learning where what you need to do is you need you need to open yourself up to new perspectives.

Don't just well remember beth moore going through her her library and trying to get it to be less white. You know all i've got are books by old white guys. And so what's in the book. The depth of its learning the accuracy of its information.

I mean the vast majority of our greek lexicons are done by what would be called white guys europeans primarily. And so you would have no mechanism left to do translation work. If you decolonialized new testament studies.

If you decolonialized textual critical studies. I mean munster is in germany of all places it's really white there. Um and so what how does all this. How does all this end up working out. When you say you want to get rid of whiteness and you need to start listening to other perspectives.

The bible was not written in africa or in the united states or in south america or in russia or in china. We do pay close attention to the historical context. The reformation really opened that up did it really did a really good job in opening that up and and helping us to really emphasize the reality that we want to know what the original author was saying to the original audience.

We want to know what how he wanted his words to be interpreted. We want to know how they would have interpreted his words. And then and only then can we then make application to the many many different cultures that the scriptures have gone out to.

And so we recognize that different cultures will interpret the message in different ways. What we want to do is want to communicate in such a way that the message doesn't get lost in the translation but the method of interpreting the original languages and scripture and getting getting that core first that doesn't change.

Doesn't matter what color you are what ethnic group you're associated with what your background is and it has nothing to do with what your grandpappy did to my grandpappy or my grandpappy did to your great uncle.

None of that's relevant that that has no meaning at all. But we're being told today. Oh it has it's it's primary it's the primary focus. It's the primary lens. Oh that's going to lead to further division.

Obviously that's that's what all this stuff is about. Divide divide divide divide divide break down break down break down break down break down. That's that's all it can do. That's what it was designed to do.

That's what it's accomplishing. So i'm going to try to do something here. Um that i don't know i'm going to be able to do. Uh but i'll give it a shot. Uh i guess that's not the way to do it. Uh oh here we go share screen and yeah this here should work.

So let's see if this works. Okay. Um i'm watching the chat that's set up with rich so that i can know and boom. And here's the real question will you be able to hear this. Okay you've got the screen. Um let's see if you can hear it.

I'm not sure if you'll be able to because of the sound input but if i shut up and it's loud enough maybe it let's find out. Um okay so why isn't that playing. Okay stop the share and uh oh it's because the entire photos program seems to have crashed.

Yes it did. Look at that it it has died a thousand deaths. It is just simply maybe it doesn't like zoom. Uh that's. Well this is why we got to find that find these things out. Uh it's a it's a mac thing he says um yeah i can't even i can't even well i'm able to minimize it so all right.

So i can't play that. That's uh that's a shame. I thought i i it worked beforehand uh but it's not working now for some reason i don't know why. Um that's weird. There's obviously some type of a conflict there whoa didn't want to do that.

Oh that's even making it worse. There we go make it smaller there we go. Sorry about that folks uh but i wanted to play you her uh statement wherein she was uh talking about. Okay i got it got to jump out of at least uh where it was.

Um i'm just gonna have to my basically what she was saying is that there we need to allow for the uniqueness of the african worldview in producing hermeneutics and that africans have been interpreting the bible for 2 000 years and so we need to tap into that as if there is an african interpretation and a european interpretation and a south american interpretation maybe there's a russian interpretation who knows what.

And once again if all that's being said and that's not what was being said but if that if all was being said is that once you have done the serious work of exegesis and you have not defined words by an african lexicon versus a european lexicon versus a south american lexicon versus a alaskan lexicon lexicon you find out what the original author intended to communicate to the original audience.

You find out what analogies he was using how they would have understood those things. Once you have that core message then it's perfectly appropriate to talk about how to communicate that with clarity when certain cultural artifacts might interrupt the communication of the meaning of the text.

So some of this gets into something i'm not going to get into today but i'll just mention something called semantic domains the the ranges of meanings of words and the fact that when you translate into other languages you have to be very very careful that you're using words where the semantic domain in the target language and in the original language are as similar as possible.

Some big mistakes have been made. And you've heard you've you've heard the stories about how to translate lamb of god into certain cultures where lamb has a specific meaning that does not map to what was originally intended.

And so you've got to you got to see if you can come up with something else to communicate in a meaningful fashion. Uh there that's fully understandable. But critical theory doesn't isn't talking about that last thing it wants to cause the division up here at the front it wants to cause the division in the idea that there is a singular meaning that is discernible and communicatable down through time is what critical theory is meant to destroy you.

You can't you can't have that that's that would be way too unifying some of an issue. And critical theory is anti-unifying. Just look around you look at what critical theory is doing to our culture and you will see that its fundamental effect and purpose and goal is disunification breaking apart anything that could cause any unity.

And when that comes into the church wow is it a problem. Is it a problem. And so with that in mind i was directed um i don't know why i don't see these things. I really think that i really think that twitter is trying to get rid of me in many different ways.

But i did not see this um thread. Maybe it's because it was too late at night or something i don't know but the bd any ability put out a thread and what we're looking at here in this thread that started 506 a .m july 16th so actually it was this morning.

Um what we're really seeing here is sort of an inter-tgc discussion going on and kevin de young and greg morris uh had written posts. My assumption i didn't bother to look them up. But my assumption is that they had something to do with some of the um super massive uh black racism that we saw expressed on the last program i played the nick cannon stuff.

The farrakhan. I mean if if anyone hesitates to identify lewis farrakhan as the worst level of racist you can be it no one argues no one disputes that farrakhan has taught literally for decades that if you have if you are non-melanated no one's non-melanated except albinos.

But if you are non-melanated you are a demon. You're a demon. You you are you are not even a human being um he is a racist has always been a racist and he leads a racist group an organization and yet he has full access to members of congress.

The democrats have been fawning over farrakhan forever so not overly shocked that nick cannon would be involved with this kind of stuff. But as i said it's been there for a long time. So you've got the black hebrew israelites and then you've got the nation of islam which doesn't have almost anything to do with islam but it's called the nation of islam.

And so my my gut feeling is people were had to comment on how you should interpret seeing someone who is black expressing plainly biblically defined racism. It's biblically defined so in other words it's hatred it's prejudice um against someone based upon the way god made them.

And i've been saying for a long long time if racism is a sin then all of adam's sons and daughters are capable of committing it. But critical theory says no. Because racism you can't talk about sin not in a biblical sense you can talk about it.

From their perspective there's there's definitely sin. Now it's just a violation of what the state says not a violation of what scripture says. But from their perspective racism requires power. And since it is claimed that they don't have the systemic structural power uh then therefore they can't be racist.

And of course the reality is many of us grew up as poor as church mice and had no power either. Uh so the idea that we by the nature of our melanization have to be racist without power whereas other people with melanin grew up with a silver spoon but they can't be racist is of course absurd.

But that's the absurdity of our society right now. And i think there was a day when thabiti any really would have recognized that. Uh but i think what we're seeing in the thread that he posted and i've noticed that a lot of people have just given up on trying to deny the existence of race just talking about ethnicities.

A lot of christians have just started going yeah well your race my race there's only one race. Um but basically what you're reading here is um his assertion he says in the last 24 hours i've read posts from reverend kevin de young and greg morris both lovely and faithful brothers and lord both making good points about the ways we can wrongly judge at individual levels and both appearing to resolve an individual individualistic conclusions at group phenomenon we need the cautions they give all of us.

But in this season what we need most is careful understanding of racism itself and of the culture's tendency to over individuate as a way of minimizing racism and absolving oneself. Notice culture. Not not not scripture not the early church not the apostolic example.

It's not just and it's not just culture as culture that would have existed anywhere else in the world up until the 20th century. In the united states it's u .s 21st century culture and you can go back to the 20th for some of it.

Um this isn't. There's there's nothing bible in here. There really isn't. It's it's all cultural. So the culture's tendency to over individuate as a way of way of minimizing racism and absolving oneself.

Well how does this work in regards to farrakhan. Farrakhan and the the nation of islam are racists. They are black racists. I haven't seen a lot of people really just making a big deal out of that. Maybe it's just because it's been so well known for so long or i i don't know or it just doesn't fit the narrative.

But he's a black racist. So his group is a black racist group. It's a black supremacy group as the black hebrew israelites are too in their various ways. And so how would this make. How would this make application.

How would that be relevant as a way of minimizing racism does pointing out the individual responsibility of the members of farrakhan's group of the black hebrew israelites. Does that somehow minimize their racism.

Or does it call for them personally to repent of their racism. That's that's a question. That's a question i've got to remember. I've got a got a microphone on here now and start swinging the hands around i can end up knocking it off.

Um he says another tool in that process all sides ism now here's here's where it gets a little scary because what he says is a simple adieu to justice to the issues to acknowledge historical and theological abuses as kevin does or contemporary instances as greg does only to write applications and conclusions that risk ignoring the asymmetry of these sins abuses systems and instances.

So the idea is okay. Yeah um there are and and he specifically says that there are black racists. Uh says to be sure both groups have attitudinal racists among them and have lunatic fringes. But that's not to suggest they've committed the same sin in the main.

So now we have racism is a different kind of sin depending on what your race is. Now he's using the word sin but he's not defining sin biblically. He's defining it culturally. That's what we've got to be watching here.

This is what's been coming into tgc for a long time now is instead of identifying instead of doing what we're supposed to do if you're going to say something's sin get into the word and show me where it's sin.

Instead we get the use of christian language with the definitions of the world. So we have different races committing different sins but they're not the same sin in the main and notice above there was uh sins abuses systems and instances.

So you've got to get systemic racism in there somehow because that's that's vitally important gotta gotta sneak it in there. Even if you can't substantiate it from scripture it it simply is not true and not to be left open to suggestion that if african americans i'm assuming that's what aas have either thought the same way about or acted the same way toward white americans in these matters.

The miracle of black history is that we fought for everyone's humanity despite recognizing inhumane treatment. Now just wait a second notice the shift to the best of our group versus the worst of your group.

And it's back to dividing on the basis of race. It's it's critical theory functioning to divide things up and to allow distinctions to be made where there's no place the distinction within the christian faith.

So uh you cannot suggest according to thabiti that african americans have either thought the same way or acted the same way toward white americans. Really i've seen a lot of videos recently of some uh you know those young black guys with the skateboards and rocks that just just about killed that one fellow early on in the rioting.

Yeah i i do. You really think it could get any worse than that. I think the sin that was filling their heart is just as depraved as any white man lynching a black man 100 years ago was. Are you saying it isn't.

Let's let's leave the united states. This is where this is where all of crt collapses. Of course is when you leave the narrow confines the united states of america. Let's transport this to africa and reverse the roles.

Is it somehow less sinful. Is it sinful in a different way. This is what happens when you allow the external lenses to become the means by which you you interpret these things. And so what we're seeing in this thread is an internal conversation within tgc pretty much uh sort of leaking out into into the public.

Um he says in the main the worst animus the most dehumanizing stereotypes and tropes the terrorist violence the abusive use of policies etc has been largely one directional in the history of the united states up until recently.

But only united states in comparison to the communist china. The united states is a paradise for black people. I would invite the b to go to china and try to do what it is here. Won't happen won't happen.

The level of racism is that deep. The tropes the abusive use of policies things like that getting disappeared. Um yeah. So there you go. Um then there's a bunch of uh of course a bunch a bunch of book recommendations for various incentive people.

Um he he says uh the kind of moderation these posts seem to aim at does very little to actually deepen our understanding of our particular identities and challenges therein. Moderation should not always be the christian's goal.

Sometimes we need a more radical and incisive analysis and voice. This is not that the bd annually that i spoke at a conference with back in 2008 he's changed. He knows he's changed. He he gets mad when you suggest it.

But he has. And he has radically. And here we are at a time where radical marxism is marching through our streets. And it sounds like the bd's going. Yeah this might be what we need might be what we need.

Remember marxism is the most anti-christian thing on the planet. Um just ask the millions who've died at his hands in the last century. Oh goodness. Um so they're trying to be moderate. And he says to be frank moderate evangelicalism has never been the prophetic and redemptive movement that god's people ought to represent.

In fallen societies moderation has often been the gentler hand that slows progress and numbs conscience. Well the bd i'm really wondering where your conscience is right now. The people who are dying in this revolution right now are black people.

They are being murdered right left and centered by other black people. Because these systems that were at least somewhat well not in chicago but in other cities holding that violence back have been removed in the name of the progress of marxism.

You should know your history better than you do. You should know whose hand you're holding here. You should know what promoting the side that is closest to the chinese communist party is going to result in in the long run you should know these things.

But you don't anymore. And it's um it's a shame to see it really is a shame to see. Speaking of china um why don't we by the way why don't we uh take a phone call uh so we can test our our phone system.

877 -753 -3341 877 -753 -3341. We'll just take one one call one question. Um 877 -753 -3341 is the phone number i had to find some way of i should have a graphic of that. I bet you i bet you i bet you it's possible to do.

Well we'll learn some more stuff but i bet you i could have it flashing on the screen. But uh we'll just we'll take one phone call if you don't mind being a guinea pig. And we can uh we can answer question or anything but do want to make sure that that kind of thing that kind of thing is going to work.

Um but before we do that discern has an article that again should not surprise us but we need to be reminded of it. Dated uh this morning. Well actually today this little afternoon. Christians in china ordered to renounce faith worship communist government to receive welfare.

Welfare payments. Uh impoverished christians living in china who are receiving aid from the state have been ordered to renounce their faith or have their welfare benefits revoked. According to reports from bitter winter a non-profit organization dedicated to religious and human rights in china.

During a government meeting in the city of linfen near the northern province of shanxi officials from all villages under the city's jurisdiction were instructed instructed to remove crosses religious symbols and images from the homes of christians who receive welfare payments and replace them with images of chairman Mao Zedong and president Xi Jinping.

For those christians who refused to comply the officials were told to withdraw their welfare benefits. A member of a three-self church located in one of the villages said that officials destroyed all religious symbols pertaining to christianity within his home and posted a picture of Mao.

Impoverished religious households can't receive money from the state for nothing. They must obey the communist party for the money they received. The believer recalled the officials scolding. The policy is also being implemented in other parts of the country.

The government and jinyu city withdrew a disabled christian's minimum living subsidy and a monthly disability allowance of around 14 dollars. A church member in her 80s from jiangji poyang county had her monthly subsidy of 28 removed for saying thank god when her check arrived.

You're supposed to say thank xi jinping. Um an official from a village administered by a city in the eastern province of shangdong invaded a home and posted portraits of Mao and Xi saying these are the greatest gods.

If you want to worship somebody. They are the ones a christian from what why why. We city who refused to sign a statement renouncing her christian faith had her allowance canceled. She depended on state money to support her two sons after her husband died.

Now what. We we we know that xi jinping wants to be worshipped. We know the chinese communist party wants to take the place of god for the chinese people. We know that our brothers and sisters are suffering horribly under the chinese communist system.

And we know that we have marxists in our own streets trying to establish the same kind of insufferable inhumanity in our own land. I would consider them to be enemies of freedom and liberty. Um but what you need to understand is the mindset here.

How many people have now been made beholden to the united states government since february. There had been the most drastic reduction in food stamp recipients and everything else over the past few years.

But all that's been changed thanks to the great panic of 2020. We look at the death totals and the numbers have almost zeroed out. But right now we're going back into lockdowns. Uh christians in california can't meet to worship again and uh everyone's running around wearing their face diapers.

So what has been happening is a forced a creation of a dependence upon government. It's been going on for a long time but it has accelerated amazingly over the past number of months. As you well know the government made a loan available that included non-profits but is primarily for small businesses.

It's funny money. It's a stimulus thing. It's funny money. But you know there's no there's nothing. It backs it. It's just there. And many churches the the names came out over just so just last week i only saw arizona but there's evidently a website that has all the states.

Many many churches took tens of millions hundreds of millions probably billions of dollars from the united states government as many other people are as well. What you see here is the end result. What our government our government right now is not run by someone who wants you to put their picture up in the house and worship them rather than jesus.

But what would stop that from happening. The mindset here is that could never happen here. Why. If you're a christian i'm asking you why. Because if you dig dig down enough there the only reason the only answer you can come up with is well it couldn't happen here because we don't think god would do that to us.

Why not. Our legal system defends infanticide them defends parents who want to inject their eight-year-old boys with hormone blockers to try to turn them into girls which of course can't happen. So it just simply destroys their bodies.

They can never reproduce. There's no such thing as transitioning. It can't happen no matter what. So why wouldn't. Why wouldn't god allow that to happen here. What functionally biblically would keep you.

What would cause you to come to conclusion that if god wanted to in 20 years you could have thugs breaking into every home in the united states and putting up pictures saying worship this worship this man whoever it might be.

Biter hunting biter hunting hunter by now let's call them biter hunting. Because that way we don't have to worry about all that money including chinese money. Oh how that happens anyway. Um it could happen.

It really could. Why. Why could it not happen. Would it would it not be just it would be. Just that's the problem. So here's here's christians in china ordered to renounce faith worship communist government to receive welfare payments.

So once you get everybody dependent on the state the state then gets to tell you how to do everything. What to eat what not to eat what to wear where to go. The bigger the state the smaller the citizen.

That is a truism that cannot be avoided. The bigger the state the smaller the citizen and the church should know that too every church that said yeah we'll we'll take some of that. How can that church stand up prophetically and say anything to the state when it starts doing things like this when your hands are stained with the ink of the money that you took.

Well. Some thoughts some thoughts. Okay. So let's uh let's find out if our uh if we're gonna be able to take phone calls this way. We've done it in the past. But we're doing it in a particular way right now.

So let's um.

If you're ready rich let's talk to jordan and kentucky. Hi jordan. Doing. Dr white. I'm doing good. I'm actually have to turn you down here a little bit good. Oh really i'll be working just a little.