14 - The Person and Deity of the Holy Spirit

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I forget what if it's dot org or dot com and you can get those. But we are studying this week. We get into a new section of our book as we're going through the study of systematic theology. We've studied what's called theology proper, which is the study of God the Father and the Trinity.

We looked into what is called Christology. That is the study of Christ. There we looked at for several weeks the deity of Jesus Christ. We also looked took some time to look into the humanity of Jesus Christ and the ministry of Jesus Christ and now we look into the third person of the Trinity, the Holy Spirit, in what is the study of the Holy Spirit or noumena, and this is a study of We're going to look today at the person of the Holy Spirit and if you have your syllabus that is one of the things you get as a enrolled student of the Academy is you get the the syllabus here and the syllabus will give you many of my notes and Some things that will help you.

So that you can quickly go back and have this this information on hand. Ready for your use. All right. Now we want to welcome all of the new students with us that we have some new folks that are Watching the show we welcome you.

We do always encourage you to go back and actually watch these in order because as we go through theology a lot of people make the mistake of jumping in in the middle and they don't go back to the beginning and start with the attributes of God and build on that and We're gonna start looking at some of the things that people disagree with not so much in this lesson.

But the ones to come as we look into the ministry of the Holy Spirit. There's some confusion and some Disagreements on what the Holy Spirit's ministry is in our day and age. So we're gonna see things like that.

We're understanding the attributes of God will help you and that's why we encourage you to go back actually. We'll encourage you actually to look into the school of system of biblical hermeneutics before the systematic theology.

Because then you'll learn how to actually take the Word of God interpret it properly. So that when we start taking these categories and looking at them, you're following along just fine. But you can still always jump in in the middle and watch along.

But we do want to encourage you to go back and watch them all. But today we're gonna start with a lesson on the person of the Holy Spirit. This is lesson 10 in your syllabus. Lesson 10 in your syllabus as we look into this.

And we're gonna look into both his personhood and his deity today. So this study is gonna look into these scriptures that talk about these things we're gonna look at. Why these things are important and they're actually gonna give us some more basis for that we we're when we talk about the deity people don't really question so much a deity of the Holy Spirit if they get over the fact that Christ is deity because Adding a third person to the deity is not so hard after you accept a second person.

So there's not much debate on the Holy Spirit being God, but we're gonna look into that. Where do we get that in Scripture now to some of the critics out there? And if you choose you want to be a critic, that's fine.

You can just email us at the academy at striving for eternity org. We will be happy to take your criticism, but to the critics that say that we don't provide enough Scripture in this well. My encouragement would be get the syllabus and you can get the scriptures that we reference there and don't use in the show.

But I decided to just take account and there's not no more scripture this week than then some of the others. But we have over 45 Scripture verses that we're gonna look at just this week. So if your argument is we're not giving you enough scripture.

You're barking up the wrong tree. All right. Maybe the problem is you don't know your Bible well enough so that if we give a reference to scripture without giving you the Quote of where it's from it may in your mind think that there isn't a scripture verse to it.

But we give plenty of scripture references. We just don't always give with all of the scripture. We don't always give you the the chapter and verse. Sorry, that's like the way the Old Testament folks did it in the New Testament early church did it before they had the You know chapter or chapters and verses which came much later after the Bible.

Okay. But we are gonna look into first in the lesson of the person of Holy Spirit. We're gonna look at his personality and if you have your syllabus that is. That is the first one there your your Roman numeral One his personality the personality of the Holy Spirit has been since the early church history attacked by men like Arrhenius.

Arrhenius who was the one of the early heretics he denied the deity of Christ which of course if he does that he's gonna throw off the deity of the Holy Spirit and the whole personhood of the Holy Spirit and so he denied the The eternality of Christ the personality of the Holy Spirit this is about 320 AD.

We see his his teachings continued in a group that you may know of they come knocking on your door on a Saturday morning unless you like me are on their avoid list. Because they're not supposed to come to my house.

They get told they I watch them they go to my neighbors and they go right to the other neighbors. I'm thinking of doing what my friend Mark Spence does and just getting out when I see that and just follow them around my Neighborhood and say well, I'm gonna just follow you and give the truth, but the Jehovah Witnesses following with Arius and with the same attacks.

Teach with the Holy Spirit they say and this is an actual quote. I want to quote from their documents from the Watchtower this is the 1953 edition January 1 page 24. Quote the Holy Spirit is God's active force.

There is no basis for concluding him a person. Unquote really. That was before Star Wars. I mean, maybe maybe this is where you know, George Lucas got it from may the force be with you. He was just he was talking about the Holy Spirit.

They talk about the Holy Spirit as if he's like electricity. He's just a force and I want you to have that in your mind. Because as we go through class today, and we look at the person of the Holy Spirit.

I want you to ask yourself Does electricity do that? I mean does a force do that? This is a person that does these things. All right, and we're gonna see that throughout the class tonight. We're first gonna look and see and this is your first blank.

There is that the Holy Spirit he possesses the attributes of a person the attributes of a person. Now when we look at this we are gonna see that he has certain attributes one of them being and that's this is going to be your your first attribute there and your syllabus is that he has an Intellect he has an intellect.

Let's look at 1st Corinthians chapter 2 Verses 12 well, we'll look at 10 through 13 since that's what we have up there. These things God has revealed to us through the Spirit. For the Spirit searches everything even the depths of God for Who knew for who knew a person's thoughts except the spirit of that person which is in him so also.

No one comprehends the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God now. We have received not the Spirit of the world but the Spirit of But the Spirit who is from God that we might understand the things Freely given to us by God and we might impart in this words.

Not taught by human wisdom, but taught by the Spirit interpreting Spiritual truths to those who are spiritual you see there that the the Holy Spirit has an intellect. He's able to think and understand.

Electricity does not think and understand. Oh, by the way. The just the fact that you can think and understand. It's more than something that a force can do. It is something that is immaterial for you atheists who are watching.

Just comprehend this. Because if we are nothing but chemical reactions, there is no immaterial world. We're purely the results of chemical reactions in a material world. Guess what? You would have no knowledge of anything.

You cannot know anything without God because knowledge is not some material product of Chemical reactions. You don't shake up a soda can open it up and have thinking come out. You have chemical reactions come out.

You don't have immaterial things come out. This is something more than just some force. All right. But the Holy Spirit has more than just emotion. Sorry, then on intellect. He has emotion and then we're gonna look at several of them first.

We're gonna see in Ephesians 4 30. He has grief. He has grief. This is an emotion and Electricity doesn't have emotion. Says here in Ephesians 4 and do not grieve. The Holy Spirit of God by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

So you see in this passage that the Holy Spirit can be grieved. In other words, he can have grief. Forces don't have grief. People have grief. That's an emotion. He also has love. The Holy Spirit loves in Romans third 1530.

I Appeal to you brothers by our Lord Jesus Christ and by the love of the Spirit to strive together with me in your Prayers to God for my behalf. So you see here that the Holy Spirit not only can be grieved.

But he loves. These are emotions these are these are characteristics or attributes of Personality. Now if you go back to those early lessons, we did Lesson, maybe two. I think it was where we looked at the attributes of God in his personality.

We described Certain attributes that are true of God that are described as personality and all persons have those attributes. Angels are persons they have those attributes. People are persons and they have those attributes.

God is a person that has those attributes. God is three Persons remember that from our from our view when we looked at the Trinity. It's not three gods to the Jehovah Witnesses or Muslims would say. It's not.

It's three people in one God. Okay, and we're seeing now that the Holy Spirit is a person not only does he have the attributes of a person in an intellect in Emotions, but he also has a will and that's your blank there for number three.

He has a will. Now his will is demonstrated two different ways. It's demonstrate he demonstrates his will in his Distribution of gifts. Let's look at that in first Corinthians. First Corinthians 12 and verse 11.

First Corinthians 12 11. All these are empowered by one and the same Spirit who? Apportions to each one individually as He wills. Do you see the Holy Spirit? Gives gifts at salvation and he gives them to whoever he wills.

Not who we will. That's an important thing we're gonna see that when we look into some things in a couple of weeks and we talk about the gifts of the Spirit and how he ministers and how he Distributes those gifts and things and some of the things are gonna see is that it is the Holy Spirit who gives gifts.

It is not us who seek after them. Okay, so I'm kind of tipping my hat to something oops, that's okay. I don't mind if you disagree with me. I really don't and it doesn't mean you should turn off the show just because you might disagree with something I say.

Actually, if you're gonna be a good Berean, there's two things you would do it should cause you to study. To see if the things I say are true according to Scripture and if you find out they're not you should be a good Berean and correct me.

Now if you're going to correct me, I don't mind I'm get corrected all the time. I'm married. No, that's a joke. She does correct me often, but that's because I'm basically a knucklehead and I need it.

But the reality is is that if you're going to correct me? Don't give me your experiences. Give me Scripture. Back it up with a proper interpretation of the Scripture. If you don't know what a proper interpretation is go to the school of biblical hermeneutics.

That's why we spent 19 weeks going through and understanding how to interpret something so that we were sure that we were accurate with it. All right. So secondly, not only does he show his will by the demonstration of his distribution of gifts, but also his demonstration in his division of Servants and we see this in Acts 16 6 to 11.

I'm gonna save a little time. And just so we don't read this whole thing. It's just that you see here that it is the Holy Spirit who sends out you see it in verse 6 the Holy Spirit was Forbidding them to going and speaking into an area of Asia.

I'm just gonna cut that off just so because we have quite a bit to do tonight. But you can look up Acts 16 6 to 11 and you can read that. Let's go to letter B there letter B in your syllabus and it is that he performs the actions of a person he performs the actions of a person.

Now we see this one of the things we see is that He teaches and let's look at that passage and you see here John 14 26 you see that the Holy Spirit. But the helper of the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send in my name He will teach you all things to bring to your remembrance.

So the Holy Spirit teaches we're gonna see. That he let's save on some of the verses. I want to make sure we get through everything tonight. So I'm just gonna give you the verses if that's alright. You're gonna see that he bears witness.

The Holy Spirit bears witness in John 15 26. Let's turn though to John 16 7 and 8 and see that the Holy Spirit convicts. Nevertheless, I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away for if I do not go away the helper will not come to you but if I go away, I will send him to you and When he comes he will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and Judgment, do you see that the Holy Spirit is going to convict the world of Three things let's put that back up three things sin righteousness and judgment.

Sin righteousness and judgment our sin God's righteousness and a judgment that is to come. Hey, that kind of sounds like the gospel. We're sinners. He's not. He's righteous we're not a Judgment's coming.

Therefore. We need to get right with God. There you go. That's right. There's the start of what we need to know when we share the gospel. But it's the Holy Spirit who convicts now, let me explain why that's important.

This is important because some people think that the very first thing that God does in saving a soul is he Redeems them as if that's the first ministry of the Holy Spirit in regenerating a person and yet it's not.

There is a pre-conversion work of the Holy Spirit. We're gonna see us when we look at his ministries where he convicts people of their sin some push against that they push against the Convicting work of the Spirit and some embrace it.

All right now they embrace it By because God is doing a work within them. Let's continue on the Holy Spirit gives glory. This is continuing with the actions of a person. He teaches he bears witness if you have your syllabus you have them all there.

He teaches he bears witness. He convicts he gives glory. That's in John 16 14. He commands in Acts 8 29, we see that he calls out for service in Acts 13 verses 2 to 4 he examines Acts 15 28 he leads in Romans 8 14 and he speaks in a whole lot of verses.

Let's put that one up Revelation 2 and 3 and you can kind of see this over and over again. The Spirit speaks to the churches you see that in every one of those those passages there. The Spirit speaks to the churches the Spirit speaks to churches to each of the seven churches.

He speaks. Maybe not with an audible voice. But he is speaking. God doesn't have a mouth. Well, actually I guess in a way you could say he does. Because Jesus Christ is God and he had a mouth. All right, Jesus is still God today and he's still a man today.

Okay, he's fully God fully man for all of eternity. All right, so moving on we see that. Not only when we looked at his personality as he had the attributes of a person. He has the actions of a person.

But let her see there. He also possesses the names of a person the names of a person. So you say well, his name is John, right? No, that's not what we're talking about. Size probably thinking that the Holy Spirit's name is sigh wrong.

But let's take a look at this. The Greek word for spirit is a neuter word. That's your blank there a neuter. Neuter means that it's not male or female. Okay. So if that's the case if you're properly to translate the scriptures the scriptures.

If they followed the normal rules of grammar. You would place the spirit with the pronoun it and that's your blank there in your syllabus it so because his name he has the names of a person but his name is a neuter the spirit is a neutered word, which means not male or female and should be with a translation of it however.

We see that it is not that case the pronoun that we see in John 1613 is he it's masculine. That's your blank there in John 1613 offers an example of the masculine he pronoun Referring to the spirit and says here when the spirit of truth comes he will guide you into all The truth for what's that word?

He will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he Hears he will speak and he will declare To you the things that are to come. You'd almost kind of get the idea that the spirits trying to tell you something in that passage.

He his he he he and I'm not trying to laugh. For those of you who are slow, I'm not saying he he. Some of you guys got to wake up in class. Really? All right. But this the important part of this is that we see that his name is used with a plural pronoun.

Okay, the plural pronoun is so that we see that he has a name he is an individual. He is a person. Okay, not only that. But we see he has the attributes of a person he has the actions of a person he has the names of a person and letter D he receives the responses of a person the responses of a person.

Let's look at Acts 5 3 and you can see that he could be lied to. But Peter said Ananias, why is Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and to keep back For yourself part of the proceeds of the land.

We see it. The Holy Spirit can be tested in Acts 9 continuing in that same Thought there that we see Peter said to her this is Ananias his wife. How is it that you have agreed together to test the spirit of the Lord?

So we see that the Holy Spirit can be lied to the Holy Spirit can be tested in Acts 751 we see that the Holy Spirit can be Resisted. Let's look at that one. You stiff-necked people uncircumcised in heart and Ears.

You always resist the Holy Spirit as your father's did so to you. Now for some people they're gonna say well, you know, there's this thing called irresistible grace. How do you resist the Holy Spirit?

Well scripture says that the Jewish fathers the Jewish leaders resisted the Holy Spirit. So now you have a question. What does that mean? And we don't have all the time to get into that. We are gonna look into that at later lessons though.

But I want you to see that this says son about the Holy Spirit. He can be resisted. The question is how is that resistance? Remember, I've already come to tip my hat the Holy Spirit Does do a convicting work?

He does a convicting work and because he does that that conviction can be resisted. All right. Now there's some nuances to that that we'll look at when we get to soteriology the study of salvation. But we got a lot of ground to cover and foundation to lay before we get there.

You don't want to jump into those theological pools Without first having a good foundation. All right, and that's what we're trying to do for you. So these things are gonna build up and we're gonna see how they they come together as we continue on.

But we see it. The Holy Spirit can be grieved. This is another one. This is in Ephesians 4 30 we looked at this already, but let's bring it up again. Do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God. Okay, so he can be grieved.

He can also be insulted. He ever think about that. Hebrews 10 29. How much worse punishment do you think will be deserved? By the one who has trampled underfoot the Son of God and Has profaned the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified and has outraged the Spirit of Grace.

You see that the Holy Spirit can actually be insulted. All right now we looked at his personality and just as we look at his personality now Number two there in your syllabus we look at his deity. We look at his deity.

All right. And so what we have here when we look at his deity is that there's various groups that Have disputed the deity of Christ now me keep in mind those groups also Deny the deity of Christ. All right, so if they deny the deity Christ They also deny the deity of the Holy Spirit which makes sense because they're rejecting the entire Trinity.

You're not going to say well the Holy Spirit is God and God the Father is God, but God the Son is not God. Well. Maybe some people would say that I mean people say all kinds of things. But generally people don't do that because if you understand the Trinity if you understand that there's multiple People that make up the Godhead having two people versus three people isn't a big issue.

So as I mentioned already the example in our current day is most commonly the Jehovah Witnesses. And this is their explanation. Let me read from their own books the Watchtower. This is from the July 15th of 1957.

Page 432 says this quote. God's Holy Spirit is Not a God. Not a member of the Trinity not co-equal and is not even a person. Unquote. Well, there you have it. I mean that's really clear what they're saying.

They're trying to say the Holy Spirit's not a person and he's not God. He's just some force. Well, we saw very clearly that the scriptures are trying to make it very clear He is a person and by observing some of the attributes Used to describe the Spirit we're going to look at his activities and his association with God.

And we are going to see if the Spirit is in fact co-equal and with God In his essence. All right. So this doesn't mean that he's some other God. He's not some Jedi force. That we let the force be with us.

We let the Spirit be with us. All right. I I do want to say this isn't as common. This is really back in the you know, I guess the 80s 90s. It became a thing and maybe some of those Preachers that are trying to be really relevant and they go back to the Star Wars the original Star Wars and make sermon series out of them dude.

You're not relevant. That was like 30 years ago. Okay, 20 -30 years ago is not relevant. If you're thinking that's relevant, I mean just just get into the Word of God and preach that instead. It's timeless.

It's the thing that's gonna last for eternity. Not your sermon series. Okay. No one cares how you can try to twist the Bible and show yourself to be really cool and hip by talking about The Holy Spirit be with us and you know trying to use the Holy Spirit to be the force from Star Wars.

It's really pathetic and sad and really borders on blasphemy when people get behind a pulpit and try to Argue so that they could show themselves relevant to say the Holy Spirit be with us. Replacing the force with the Spirit.

Yes, the Holy Spirit being God is everywhere present. Like the the force in Star Wars. Yes, the Holy Spirit being God Influences everything controls everything and is sovereign like the force in Star Wars.

But Preacher Understand what you're teaching George Lucas if you read what he said, he did have a Religious spiritual mindset behind his movie. He was trying to teach New Age ism. When he would talk about the force.

That we're all God and when you try to use the force of Star Wars. To bring that into the Holy Spirit. You got a major problem because you now have to say that we're all God. Because that's what Lucas is teaching in with the force in Star Wars.

So stop trying to be relevant with 20 and 30 year old movies. Stay with the book. That's timeless the very Word of God. It doesn't need your enhancing. Okay. All right enough I'll get off my soapbox. Sorry as a pastor as a Preacher of God's Word.

It drives me nuts when I see these guys just tickling ears and Wasting people's eternity because he's really leading them astray most of the time. So let's look at the deity of Christ. All right first, we're gonna see that he has the attributes of deity the attributes of Deity.

Well, let's take a look. What are some of the attributes of deity that the Holy Spirit has? Well one we see in John 16 13 or in 1st Corinthians 2 10 and 11 that he is omniscient. Now I sure hope that I don't need to define that.

Because I hope you've been watching all of our lessons and you watch the first couple of classes where we went into the attributes of deity those attributes that are true only of God and You remember that we talked about omniscience.

This is to be all. Knowing this is saying that God knows everything. Okay, completely. He didn't learn it. He knows it and the importance of this is because the Holy Spirit in 1st Corinthians 2 10 these things God has revealed to us through the spirit for the spirit searches everything even the depths of God.

For who knows the person's thoughts except the spirit of that person which is in him so also the one who comprehends the thoughts of God except the spirit of God you see the Holy Spirit knows everything.

Now, why is that important? This is important because if you remember when we first started these classes on systematic theology. We said there's certain attributes that are true only of God the attributes of deity.

Attributes of personality are true for all persons and we saw those already in this lesson. But now we get to these attributes that are true only of God so if a person is omniscient they are God. Okay, because these are attributes of God alone.

He is omnipotent. Romans 15 19 He is omnipotent as that again meaning he's all Powerful he can do anything within his nature. All right again, this is an attribute that is only true of God. We see that he's omnipresent omnipresent in Psalm 139 7 where shall I go from your spirit or where shall I flee from your presence?

The psalmist actually says if I go to Sheol if I go to death you're there. God the Holy Spirit is Everywhere this again is an attribute to That is true only of God so the Holy Spirit is omniscient Omnipotent on the present.

He's also eternal in Hebrews 9 14 he's eternal something again. He had no beginning and no end. Okay, think of it if you think in if you like math or geography Algebra and Geography no geographies landmasses, but think of it as a line a line has an arrow in both directions.

Now that is God no beginning no end we and Angels and everything else that's creation had a starting point and go on forever now we Everything had a starting point that we know other than God. However angels and humans have a starting point and then we kind of go in an arrow.

That would be an array. We live forever. That's immortal. All right, there's some Technical differences between those words eternal versus immortal. God's eternal the Holy Spirit's eternal thus He's God.

We are immortal. We had a beginning and we will live forever. Something else Jehovah Witnesses have a problem with he's holy. The Holy Spirit is holy in Luke 11 13. He is holy. He also is truth first John 5 6 let's look at that one.

All right first John 5 6. This is he who came by water and blood Jesus Christ not by the water only but by the water and the blood and the spirit is the one who testifies because the spirit is Truth the spirit is truth.

You know, this is one of those things, you know all of those atheists love to say and all I actually that's much the atheist but Many of them but also some of these professing Christians. They say God is love.

God is love. Oh God is love. So he I have someone on the YouTube channel saying well You're God the God of the Bible can't exist because God is love. Yeah. God is also holy and true and just and His love doesn't counteract his justice and his holiness and his truth.

That's one of the things these people just kind of they ignore that and then they redefine love. God is love. He's all forgiving. Really is it really loving to forgive? Really? Okay, let's try that out.

You're loving to the babysitter and The babysitter has a history of well, she likes to torture babies. You're gonna have her at your house because you really love your enemies and love your neighbor. And so you're gonna have this Babysitter watch your infant.

Because you're going to forgive all things. Is that what God meant? Yeah, you'd be nuts. Of course, you're not gonna let that babysitter watch your children. Why? Because it wouldn't be loving to your children.

And it wouldn't be wise. Okay, cuz they're the just thing to do is to keep that type of person away from your children like in prison, maybe. Just saying. All right so we see that has the the Holy Spirit has the attributes of deity also that he has the Activities of deity the activity of Deity who created the universe?

Well God the Father did well, no, no, no because in in Colossians 1 15 16 says Jesus Christ did. Well, who really did well Genesis 1 says Genesis 1 to the earth was form was without form in void and darkness was over the face of the deep and the spirit Of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

The Spirit of God Was the one that was active in creation. So creation is one of his activities. Another one that he was in was in 2nd Peter 1 21 for no prophecy was ever in truth. It was never produced by the will of man.

But men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit. So the Holy Spirit was involved in Inspiration Inspiration now that verse is a good one to memorize or have on hand 2nd Peter 1 21 the reason that's good to have on hand is because many people today will try to argue that The Bible was written by men and that verse clearly teaches that men wrote as the Holy Spirit Inspired them as he moved them to write in other words The writing wasn't their own that writing was God's writing.

That's as God the Holy Spirit did. All right so we see that Here, all right that the Holy Spirit was involved here in creation in inspiration and then in Regeneration, I love this passage Titus 3 5 He saved us not because of any works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy by the washing and Regeneration and renewal of who the Holy Spirit.

Okay, so he is involved in the regeneration of people. All right. So let's look at that. We look at his deity we see that he has the attributes of deity he has the activities of deity and let us see there he has the Associations of deity see notice I literated each one the attributes the activities and the Associations of deity to help you remember them.

All right, and so what we see there is first we see the Association with Yahweh or Jehovah. All right, we see that the Holy Spirit is Involved with but that is associated with Jehovah. Why is that important?

Well, there's Jehovah witnesses. Remember we talked about the deity of Christ. We made an emphasis to show how Jesus Christ was called Jehovah that very special name of God in the Old Testament the Hebrew that is used only for God.

Well, let's take a look real quick. Isaiah 6 8 to 10 and I heard a voice of the Lord. This is the Lord Adonai saying whom shall I send who will go for us? Then I said here I am send me and he said go and say to the people keep on Hearing but do not understand keep on seeing but do not perceive.

Make the hearts of these people dull of their hearings heavy and blind. That they see with their eyes do not hear. And do not understand with their hearts. So this is a reference here to Yahweh and then let's look in Acts Acts 28 the same passages quoted in Acts 28 25 to 27 and Disagreeing amongst themselves they departed after Paul had made the statement the Holy Spirit was right in saying to your fathers Through Isaiah the prophet go to this people and say and then we have the quotation.