April 15, 2022 Show with Audrey Werner on “The Mind Polluters”

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Earth We're listening via live streaming at iron sharpens iron radio .com This is Chris Arnzen your host of iron sharpens iron wishing you all a happy Friday on this 15th day of April 2022 and I am thrilled to have back on the program someone

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Although I am thrilled to have her back on the program. I am Nauseated and disgusted by what we have to discuss today

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Today we have returning to the program Audrey Werner Dean of life issues and professor at Masters International University of Divinity president and founder of The an organization that offers a purity paradigm for our homes churches nation and That would be the

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Matthew 18 group, correct? yeah, and She is a former sex educator and sexually transmitted disease clinic nurse a

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Purity speaker for a life talk crisis pregnancy center and national speaker for RSVP America sex education expert for the

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American Academy of Biblical counselors and Author of 10 tips on how not to talk to your children about sex

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Today we are going to be addressing a new documentary that she has participated in titled the mind polluters which is a documentary exposing the dark realities of the

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Intentional grooming of children into a worldview at odds with the Christian faith rampant with sexuality homosexuality and transgenderism normalized through the use of pornographic and pedophilic

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Materials as my honor and privilege to welcome you back to iron sharpens. I'm ready out Audrey Werner Thank you

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Chris, it's always an honor to be on your show and I appreciate and I appreciate it as well perhaps more than you do and Well, first of all before we even go into the documentary the mind polluters tell us something about your own background in the field of sex education and how this whole subject matter

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Became a part of a mission or even a crusade that you are on Do not only purge schools

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Government schools of this nightmarish Satanic garbage, but even believe it or not.

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You still have a mission to purge Christian schools of this Pollution.

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Yeah, but tell us about your own background In the

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Lutheran Church, Missouri Senate Church, I actually married the youth director of our

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Lutheran Church who was also the first grade school teacher at the Lutheran School and During that time

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I had a new career As a public health nurse and as part of my job as a public health nurse

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Was that I taught sex education in the schools and I had to go through the standardized training that any

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Person who teaches sex ed has to go through to be able to go into the schools and talk to kids about sex

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I was told during my training that parents are not doing their job and that I need to go in there and do it for Them so I did this job

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Diligently my husband I were did not have children at that time So I did that for five years and during my training

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They also said you're going to hear this lie out there that if you talk to children about sex They're going to go out and do it and that's simply not true

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You're actually going to decrease the pregnancy and the sexually transmitted disease rate So I did this for five years and then my husband and I were blessed with our first child

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I still wanted to work for the health department that I wanted to work part -time So the only part -time job was working in the venereal disease

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HIV clinic I did that during the 1990s and it's as if the

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Lord said I want you to see the fruit of your labor and Instead of seeing things getting better.

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I thought things getting progressively worse Now at the same time I had a dear friend of mine at the

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Lutheran Church who was looking into the very first Christian sex education program, which is called the learning about sex series

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It came out of Concordia Publishing House in 1967 I vividly remember getting the book when

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I was in a fourth grade And my response to it Which was

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I had never seen a naked person before and this book had pictures I've never seen a naked male before and I was very uncomfortable

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I tried to put that book as deep into my desk as I could to get it away from me

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And little did I know till in future research that I was trying to protect my own moral innocence

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And thank goodness My teacher was uncomfortable with the book as well because we never went over it

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So I thought okay When did sex education start who really developed it and what was the intent behind it?

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and I was looking into also the origins of the very first Christian sex ed program and came across a pedophile who is

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Considered the father of the sexual revolution, which is Alfred Kinsey Hugh Hefner gave the seed money for sex education to be put into schools and Dr.

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Mary Calderon was an instrumental voice She actually went to the American Council of Churches and convinced the churches that they needed to put sex education in the school

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So And she was the medical director of Planned Parenthood before she was a proponent of pushing sex education

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So I thought wow, this is a huge story And I thought oh my gosh at first I thought

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I just have to wake up the Lutheran school that my my Child then was in kindergarten when

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I was starting to research all of this our firstborn and then I realized oh my goodness I need to take this to the top of the

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Lutheran Church, Missouri Senate And then I realized I have to take this to the entire body of Christ Which was an insurmountable task

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So I had an argument with God several times and every time I would say but I'm not an expert in this

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The Lord would connect me with the person who happened to be the expert in that in the world

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And one of those people was dr. Judith Reisman who is also featured in the documentary the mind polluters

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Oh, yeah, in fact there is Something that brought back memories remember in the 80s,

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I would frequently watch the Phil Donahue show and And I was even knowing how left -wing

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Phil Donahue was I must have not ever have seen the particular program that Judith participated in Because watching it today watching the documentary today seeing that clip of Phil Donahue.

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I was astonished that he was defending Kinsey and But it was but it was quite interesting maybe you know whether or not

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He was aware of the depth of depravity of Kinsey's research But he seemed because I know that he was reluctant at first to to show the audience

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The research that was being done that involved pedophiles and even sexually molesting and basically torturing infants, but he see he seemed visually stunned for at least a few seconds when he showed it on the screen like as if you didn't even know what he was getting

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Into he didn't know what the the Pandora's box. He was opening. Do you know anything about whether he was fully aware of how?

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dark the Kinsey research was He was because if you notice in that clip

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After she shows the pedophile data He asked her the question.

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He asked you that the question because she's trying to to show people. This is ridiculous This is you know, this is a crime and he said so what's your point here?

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Yes, I did hear him say that but I didn't know if he was just trying to somehow escape from an embarrassment

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He worked he worked. He worked with the Kinsey Institute where You know and we hear that pedophilia is very rampant in Hollywood and has been for years

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And that girl married him Danny Thomas's lovely daughter and Spokesperson for st.

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Jude's Hospital married him Yeah, well There's there's a lot of coming out lately

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I I pray more comes out that you know with the whole Disney thing I I was showing the film in Florida a couple of weeks ago

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Two leaders in Florida and they were complaining that governor DeSantis didn't go far enough with this bill that the bill should have covered

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You know, you shouldn't indoctrinate any children in any grade To sexualization and I said no he's brilliant because who's gonna argue

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Sexualizing kindergarten or preschool through third grade who's gonna stand up for that?

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Well who ended up standing up for it and arguing against it? But Disney so I thought that was brilliant on his part to expose who's supporting

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The grooming of children and now we know so yeah. Yeah, this is

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Nightmarish stuff. I think that There are going to be people in my audience who probably may

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Think that this is nutty conspiracy theory stuff because it is so outlandish.

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It is so over -the -top Satanic And sexually evil and perverse.

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Well the things that we are talking about So Before we get even involved in more of the discussion of the content of the documentary mind polluters

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Tell us about how this Documentary even came to come into existence.

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What was the driving force? Was it a realization that there was rampant ignorance? amongst parents and Churches and politicians and communities

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About the depth of evil that was present in the sex education system

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I'll tell you when I was doing my research and when I said, I'm not an expert in Kinsey The Lord connected me with Judith Reisman When I said

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I realized that our locks have been changed for example You can you know You can go on an app and find out where the closest pedophile lived in your neighborhood

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That didn't used to be the case. It used to be they were put away in prison or they were put to death so the protections for marriage women and children have been eliminated in this country and Kinsey science was used to do that.

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So I Knew nothing on the law And the Lord connected me with Colonel Ron Ray and his wife

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Eunice Ray who had founded RSVP America and they were working with Judith to Bring about an awareness that the model penal code in the sex offense section had been changed and Kinsey's science we used to have something called the common law which was based on the

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Bible and so they These new scientists came in and said, oh, that's too old and antiquated

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The lawyers who were on the dark side that were pushing this so they drafted the model penal code in 1955 and the first state to adopt it was

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Illinois and then it spread across the country So as was shared in the film that legalized pornography it legalized abortion it

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Lessened penalties for rape of women and children. It was used for no -fault divorce

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I mean there was this whole cascade of ushering in the sexual revolution with Kinsey science

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Changing our law to make it even easier to push this on everyone so Fast forward to I've been presenting this for years trying to wake people up because Carl Ray said to me

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He said it has crept into every institution If you are in the field of education, you have been influenced by Kinsey science

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If you are in the field of medicine, I heard throughout nursing school children are sexual from birth and that means that children are capable of Sexual activity according to Kinsey's eyes infants could have sex with adults and it's not harmful

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So in the STD clinic for example a 13 year old girl was brought in by a 22 year old man

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And I could not call her parents. I could not call the police because according to the government

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She was a consenting adult at the age of 13 and I had to give her birth control

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That's what he brought her in for so and sadly it has crept into the military

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And it is crept into the church. So Kinsey's teachings especially in the area of sex education marital intimacy

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I always say by whose authority when somebody writes a book by whose authority are they standing on and I would say 90 % of the

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Christian material goes back to Alfred Kinsey So we have been heavily influenced.

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So I've been doing this for a long time I'm trying to wake up people and working with RSVP America and My organization was started based on Matthew 18 15 to 17

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If your brother sins you go to him if they don't listen you go to the church And so my my mission is to wake up the church

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And encourage everyone to get back to God's standard in Bible, which is chastity purity modesty self -control

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We need to protect marriage women and children again. We need to restore God's law in this nation

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And make it honorable again, but we need to have the church behind this movement and it's been a slow going on that So 2019

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I prayed Lord just get me to the remnant and I've been very surprised where I've been

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Uganda Parliament to a legislative briefing, but it wasn't in the church So I was asked to speak at a conference in Indiana and I met

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Mark and Amber Archer They had already done one documentary their company is called fearless teachers, which

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I love the name of that They had done a documentary on the abortion industry in Indiana called in would drive

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They used to work for Hollywood and God got a hold of their heart and said I want you to start making movies for me

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So their first one was in one drive the second one They had read a book called the mind polluters and they knew that they needed to do one on pornography

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Because it's connected pornography and abortion are connected actually

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Anthony is a Comstock had said that they're the three contraception pornography and abortion were all interconnected so So they wanted to do a pornography and somebody said hey

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Judith Reisman Audrey Warner Rhonda Miller these people are experts on Pornography with children you may want to go to a conference.

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They're speaking at in Napa me, Indiana So that's where I met them for the first time and they said can we film you and we said sure so they filmed the whole conference and then they came back to each individual of us and and came to our state where we live and interviewed us for the movie and it's

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It's by God's grace that this movie came together because no Christian organizations wanted to back them on this

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Now obviously we should not Forget to pay tribute to Two key people involved in the creation of this documentary

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Mark and Amber Archer Tell us about them and their background They have an interesting background and they used like I said they used to work for Hollywood And they both have had a come -to -Jesus moment

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They're married they have children they're a wonderful courageous Christian couple I've had people have seen the movie

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They're so surprised at the quality of the movie and I said, well, that's because they used to work for Hollywood Why this movie is so wonderful.

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Oh, yeah, this is not this is not a cheesy poorly made Film as sadly many

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Christian films are This is not in that category at all. Very professionally done

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Yes, and they were able to tie together Comprehensive sex education critical race theory and social emotional learning

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Which is in all of the schools in America and is coming to all the schools social emotional learning is now in every school in America and Even the

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Christian schools are starting to adopt the concept of that But basically the movie does a great job of showing you how they have figured out to rewire children's brains so Anyway, they have been courageous and going forward.

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They had to mortgage their house to put this movie together and They the Lord just directed them through this whole thing

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I mean they I'm so honored to be in a movie with Ken Ham from answers in Genesis in this movie to Craig Sawyer From he's former

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SEAL team who rescues children from child sex. Yeah So, you know, they knew exactly what they were doing and you can tell

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God's hand is on it because it has been powerful The responses that we're getting where we're showing this all over the country well

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Obviously we need to get into the nitty -gritty of what it is about The sex education curriculum that is

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Spreading like a cancer throughout our nation and abroad even targeting children

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Who are pre -k and kindergarten age? This is the clips that this documentary shows because Folks, this is not

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As I was saying earlier some kind of a conspiracy theory by nutty right -wingers

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This documentary actually shows clips of those involved in the sex education curriculum that is rampant in our world today and So you can see and hear for yourself what they are promoting to little children

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They are not teaching children just that these things exist when

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I say these things Premarital sex Homosexuality Etc.

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Transgenderism. They are Intentionally making children feel comfortable about these things.

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Am I right? Yes. Yes. This is about Rewiring children's brains and as I they do such a great job in the movie of showing

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Actual curricula that is being used in schools This is and that's been my point since I found out the origins of sex ed is

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I had to have a footnote for everything Because it's such an incredible Preposterous story, but it explains why we are where we are in America That movie has done a good job and consistently when

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I have presented before this movie came along Which is a bad this movie is a fabulous tool to help me present make the case for this but before that Just in my presentation

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People would go. Wow. I love how you connect the dots, you know that this is all

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Interconnected it has the same as you said Demonic root and there's actually a picture of Kinsey in the movie a black -and -white picture of him

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And he is standing and Alice Cholester Alex Cholester's Temple satanic temple in Sicily where he would rape torture and murder

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Babies in the temple for Satan during his satanic ritual So this this is a

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Principality that is not only taking over America is taking over the world And you know when

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I said God get me to the remnant in 2019. I actually Threw an invitation from a pastor in Uganda went over Unbeknownst to me at a time when they were about to put sex education in their schools because they haven't officially put it in yet And so I went over and presented the what

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I knew at that that time and it actually Halted sex education from going into the school.

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So even after people see this movie and they're overwhelmed with oh my gosh

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This is so huge and it's so pervasive throughout not just Public schools.

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It's in Christian schools and even homeschool materials has some of this in it so It is so overwhelming but I remind people if God could take one woman over to Uganda and Stand up against the

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UN Planned Parenthood International and UNICEF and God halted sex ed from going in the school there

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What can he do with ten righteous people in America? Amen now some of the other things involved in this is are a

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Promotion not as again not just Identifying to Children that there is a thing such as homosexuality and I'm not advocating that even fact based documentaries or information

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Promoting the education of sex amongst children. I don't even believe in that. I think that's a that's something

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That is the duty of a parent to be involved in how to Teach their children about sex and so on but It's not even just fact -based.

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It's promoting homosexuality. It's It's basically Telling kids things that that nobody has the right to be telling them to give into your feelings and your desires and and even in planting those

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Thoughts which may turn into proclivities and desires later when they didn't even exist there before, right?

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right Exactly. And again, I think a mark and Amherst did a great job of Highlighting my good friend

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Monica Klein who's here in Texas with me who also was a fellow sex educator and she and Craig Sawyer who rescues children from child sex trafficking

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They both did a great job of showing the parallel between Comprehensive sex education what a sex educator does not intentionally because I will say

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I was a sex educator So was she and this was not our intention to sexualize children

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But the techniques we were taught are the same techniques that a pedophile uses to groom children

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So that's a pretty powerful statement sexual words and images are

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Powerful and children have an aversion to it when a parent, you know We're we're encouraged in the learning about sex series.

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I did a word search I looked at how many times is chastity or just the word purity

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How many times is purity mentioned? I and it was mentioned just a

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Handful under five times. I think it was less than that Pure and purity was mentioned, but you know two times

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I think it was and I looked at the word sex sexuality sexual intercourse 354 times so the the

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Focus was not a biblical base, but rather it was a Kinsey base It I did the research of looking at how did we approach this before Alfred Kinsey?

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It's in books came out in 1948 1953 The media promoted him as a happily married man a legitimate scientist the corrupt people in the legal community and in our government pushed his science as legitimate science and yet Looking at his own data as Judith showed in the movie looking at his own data

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He has interviewed pedophiles and he is timing how long babies have orgasms and then he defines orgasms of infants as fighting away the partner a collapsing trembling fainting screaming that is

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Horrific and so it's in Kinsey's book. So this is This is the foundation of comprehensive sex education prior to this it was

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I found some antique books and it was the flowers the birds and the bees and Now parents are being taught now.

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These are you know Today we were born into the sexual revolution. So we know no difference.

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We were brought up with sex education So but parents do have a little bit of an aversion of talking graphically to the kids about sex

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And so a lot of parents are thankful they can give it to the experts But now we're finding out that the experts are being trained in this pedophile model of normalizing all kinds of sexual activity and so the new fad is transgenderism and There was a poll that came out recently that was of young people

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Generation and they say that now 33 % of them identify as LGBTQ You Got that.

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I know there's many letters after that now, but but we're talking about an explosion and in young people

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Who are having taking on these sexual identities? Well, why is that happening because they've been indoctrinated in the schools.

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They've been indoctrinated Through these programs. It's been normalized They and I always say to parents our number one goal is to make sure that our children have their identity in Jesus Christ Because if their identity is in Jesus Christ, that's going to dictate their actions their decisions and their motives but if we aren't diligent in doing that the world is ready to give them these types of identities and the fad right now is the transgender movement, which again was highlighted in the film how they can take a preschooler and start to plant the seeds of transgenderism

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Yeah, and I probably in fact not probably I should have opened up the program by telling my listeners to make sure that no young Children were in the room.

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Although they were listening to the broadcast and I will repeat that warning now every time

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I come back from a break, but this is mind -boggling and nightmarish satanic stuff and it is

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Absolutely astonishing the lengths to which Leftists are going leftists who themselves are not even involved in some of these

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Abominations in regard to homosexuality Transgenderism and pedophilia, but for some reason think it is so important to perpetuate

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These so -called freedoms in our nation and also to instill

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These things as options for young people as they grow and develop obviously

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That I'm aware. We haven't reached a point where pedophilia is being promoted at least overtly but the what the

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Ground is certainly being tilled for fertile soil for that to be the outcome with Children not only to yeah voluntarily participate in something like that.

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And of course a child can't really run voluntarily Be involved because they don't even know what's really going on.

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But uh Well, yeah, but there's two things Chris that are going on One is the lowering of the age of consent as I said

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There was a 13 year old and now the model of the American Law Institute is suggesting that the age of consent be lowered to 10

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So to correlate with that there is a curricula called unequal partners and that has a picture of an adult man and a boy on it and it is a

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Curricula to help teachers and counselors and nurses if a 10 year old they identify a healthy relationship

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Between a 10 to 17 year old and an adult this curricula helps the official

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Authority in the school to help the child at 10 decide if that's a healthy relationship

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Wow, it's no it's here it's here right now and That's why this movie is so timely and it is so urgent that Christians wake up on this issue

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Then the walls are down. We are in Nehemiah time and we've got to get to rebuilding those walls and We're going to be going to our first station break.

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If you have a question for Audrey Werner on this issue Send us your email to Chris Arnzen at gmail .com

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USA please only remain anonymous if your question involves a personal and private matter and I could readily see a

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Subject like this opening up the door for many people with personal and private

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Matters that they want to ask Audrey about so I will

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Definitely allow that but if it is just a general question a general question on how you could protect your children and the children in your church in your community and how you can get

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Local politicians involved and all that kind of thing if it's just a general question

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And please give us your first name city and state and country of residence Don't go away. We'll be right back with Audrey Werner right after these messages

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Audrey Werner I ask of you to make sure that no children are with you in the room

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Where you are listening to today's program because we are talking about very sensitive issues definitely issues that young minds and ears should not be exposed to which is exactly the point actually of the documentary we are discussing the mind polluters a documentary exposing the dark realities of the

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Intentional grooming of children into a worldview at odds with the Christian faith

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Rampant with sexuality homosexuality and transgenderism normalized through the use of pornographic and Pedophilic materials if you have a question, our email address is

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Chris Arnzen at gmail .com Chris Arnzen at gmail .com and I'm going to play the audio right now for the trailer for this documentary and then we'll return to what

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Audrey immediately after Sexual predators and comprehensive sex education both break down inhibitions

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That's what they start with They also gain trust with the child and then slowly start to get them towards sexual activity anything goes

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You are teaching children adult child sex you're teaching transgender issues

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And you know children are are moldable and and influenced by that.

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They said okay now we need you and your team to be able to explain what

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Homosexuality is to a four -year -old student to introduce this kind of material at that age.

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Frankly. It's child abuse You're going to teach our children that it's okay for any two children of any age of any sex

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To have sexual intercourse with each other as long as two components are present

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One's using a condom and they both give consent Did I hear that correctly?

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It's not a neutral venue, there's no such thing. Okay, the schools are doing your job.

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They are Discipling your children, but they're not discipling them in the faith of Jesus Christ It's only the exceptional child

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That even survives that system most do not survive most have not survived they believe that children are sexual from birth and That they deserve and have the right to be sexually active and to seek sexual pleasure and If anyone is stopping them from that then you are judging and oppressing them even kindergarten now

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They're wanting to teach them more and more perverse information and acts and put that into the children's minds and Once those that that poison is in the child's mind doesn't leave

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They'll always remember what they learned and it's by design it's Orchestrated in my humble opinion.

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It will be worse before it gets better Wow, we will be repeating this website later, but it is the mind polluters calm the mind polluters calm and you can find out more about This documentary that features our guest today

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Audrey Werner and Audrey Kinsey died

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When it was to my knowledge he died in the the heyday of Ozzie and Harriet, you know, he was

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He died in the in the late 50s Right, how did the soil of This nation and of the family specifically and academia becomes so fertile to embrace the ideology of a madman

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And a pervert I mean Obviously there have always been

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Well at some point beginning after the garden at least there have always been homosexuals there have always been people involved in adultery and fornication but but back then it would at least

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Was something that shocked the sensibilities of the average?

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American family even if they were unregenerate Even if they were not Christian, even if they may have even been an agnostic family or an atheist family, which was far less

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Less in numbers back then But how on earth did did the the school systems come to embrace this stuff?

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It's kind of interesting how and I am not recommending this movie and I don't clearly remember all of the movie but Almost 20 years ago.

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I saw the Hollywood movie about Kinsey Unfortunately starring one of my favorite actors

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Liam Neeson but even that Hollywood treatment of him

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Revealed that he was a man out of control Sexually Even if you want to use a clinical term

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A bit of being a sex addict It just rampant out of control and it destroyed his marriage and his own mental health

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And I believe it actually is what eventually killed him physically but How did these ears in?

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Academia and elsewhere become so eager to hear such horrible nightmarish

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Stuff as if this was the expertise We needed to properly Train up young people so that they may be properly understanding

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Sexual activity and what's what it is all about? that the strength of America Has been our biblical foundations

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We're a Christian nation not because we have more Christians or churches But because our laws and our government were founded on the principles of the

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Old and New Testaments If you look at Psalm 22 talks about the kings of the earth

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Wanting to be the rulers of the world There's an excellent book that was written.

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I believe in the 1950s. It was called Foundations their power and influence and it was written by a legal counsel to US Congress in the 1950s by the name of Renee Wormser and in that Renee exposes how the foundations which were started up in the 1920s

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The Ford's the Carnegie's and the Rockefellers who started up these tax -exempt foundations he actually shows through the book that These were people that wanted to be kings of the earth the wealthy elite and if you fast -forward to today

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The programs that were exposed in the mine polluters are still funded by People, you know, you will see

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Carnegie Foundation You will see Rockefeller Foundation But now you have the Warren Buffett and the

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Bill Gates and the you know The other wealthy elite who want to be the rulers of the world

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Well in order to destroy America, you have to destroy the Christian Church and you have to destroy the traditional family

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So the the idea of the sexual revolution didn't just happen in the 1960s

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It took revolutionaries years of pre -planning So Kenzie Kenzie's just a tool that was used.

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He's not the ultimate devil here Obviously Satan is the the author of these lies and deceit but Kenzie's science came out in the 30s and the 40s

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He was doing this research and he was funded by the the Carnegie's and the Rockefellers.

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So His science was used and then Surplanted Into every institution as I said, so his for example at Indiana University He started teaching a marriage class in the 1930s

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So he was starting to have influence already at the University Once his science came out and his research was published in 48

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And in 53 then you have different You have the Kenzie Institute at Indiana University, which is still there today, by the way and For pedophiles all over the world.

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You can send your data There's a Kenzie app. So at the University the

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Kenzie Institute is still collecting data for pedophiles all over the world and Again, so this continues to go on but in the book of foundations

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Renee Wormser Brings up the Kenzie Rockefeller connection and even states in there that the

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Rockefeller foundation or the Kenzie science was a deliberate attack on Judeo -Christian morality

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So this was a well -thought -out plan that began again

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The American Law Institute was started up in 1923 with the intent of removing 1952

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Bible -based laws The problem I've always said is where was the church when no false divorce became legal?

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Where was the church during Roe vs. Wade? Where was the church when pornography became legal?

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And the problem was they were brilliant because they knew to infiltrate the church because if they could infiltrate the

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Frankfurt school Talked about you know, the communist Frankfurt school talked about infiltrate the church first Because the church sets the moral

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Society and we're seeing denomination after denomination that has embraced the

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LGBTQ has embraced Abortion and if you go back to the science that they're using because obviously they're not using scripture.

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They're using Kenzie science So again, this was a well -thought -out plan

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It was put into the universities if anyone takes the human sexuality course Even if you take it at a

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Christian University, you are getting indoctrinated in Kenzie science Because the whole field is founded on Kenzie fraud criminal science now

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I know for a fact that the Christian school Operated by my own congregation where I'm a member

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The Christian School of Grace Baptist Church of Carlisle, Pennsylvania, it would never in a million years touch or Certainly not promote anything that is contained in these satanic school curriculums and I know churches with whom

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I have very close fellowship that would share that revulsion and that Protection of children never to Allow any of them to see or hear any of this satanic garbage

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I am baffled that a denomination that is In spite of my theological differences with the

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Missouri Synod Lutherans I have friends who are Missouri Synod Lutheran pastors and Other and members of other very conservative

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Bible -believing Lutheran denominations outside of the

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Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, which Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, which is really an apostate denomination

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But I know these conservative guys, in fact, I've interviewed Authors published by Concordia That you said what it was making some of these these nightmarish sex ed curriculums available in print

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How on earth did they come to embrace this? Satanic stuff and and how much of that denomination is still using this stuff

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I'm just my mind is boggled by that because of the the great reverence for Scripture and the

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Strong belief in the inerrancy of Scripture and other in everything in regard to biblical morality that I share with my

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Conservative Lutheran friends. I'm just astonished by this. How did this happen? And is how much of it is still going on?

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You know, I always preface it with You know, please understand that I'm not beating up the

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Lutheran Church, Missouri Senate It's just I happen to be from the Lutheran Church, Missouri Senate so I looked at their writings, but in all you will find in the area of Christian sex education and Intimacy and marriage you will find there has been a shift over the last 60 70 years

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I want to pick up where we left off when I asked you about how mind -boggling it is to me that some of this nightmarish and satanic curriculum

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Is present within the denomination known as the Missouri Synod Lutheran Church because I have such a high regard for that denomination and no

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How did this happen and you were you were about to discuss how you went to the hierarchy and I believe dr.

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Berry You approached him about this if you could continue from there Yes, I in 1997

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And it came to a head because as I started this I was saying, okay

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Lord I'm not a pastor. This is Missouri Senate. I'm a woman who is going to listen to me

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I call it the Supreme Court brief That was put together and it is available.

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You can read it at on my website It was the actual document that was presented to a representative from Concordia Publishing House Unfortunately, dr.

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Berry had passed away suddenly I believe it was in 2000 that he passed away.

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So I had a friend who was the head of Lutheran for life at the time and she orchestrated a meeting between Concordia Publishing House and myself

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With a representative met with me at the Lutheran for Life headquarters in Iowa Where I presented the documents that I had put together and Again, I I you know, this is not my opinion

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I am always saying when someone speaks and they've right you go to the bibliography to look at by whose authority

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Are they standing on and I have a book that was published by Concordia Publishing House in 1961 it's called sex and the church and In the book, it says

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Alfred Kinsey and his associates were discovering some facts about sexual behavior Though many doubts have been expressed both in the press and elsewhere as to the validity of Kenzie's findings

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It's probably fair to say that in so far as statistical studies can give us an accurate information

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The Kinsey books are reliable for the type of study made

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Wow This created the foundation for the learning about sex theory so fast forward to 1967 in a book called a

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Sociologists have made public startling findings on the sex attitudes and practices of modern men and women

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Christian person So in the bibliography of this book, you have the

01:18:53

American Medical Association, which by the way use Kinsey science You have speak it which is the sex

01:19:01

Information and Education Council United States. They are the foundation. It was founded at the

01:19:06

Kinsey Institute Mary Calderon was on the board of directors

01:19:12

And again other resources in the bibliography of this book for Lutheran leaders include

01:19:18

Planned Parenthood resources, so This and in the parent book.

01:19:25

It actually quotes can be statistics directly As a justification for going in and talking to the children.

01:19:32

So there's overwhelming Evidence and this has never been repealed

01:19:38

I will tell you that I did approach the the president's after that including the current president and It's certainly in my document

01:19:51

I suggest that this be recalled this series be recalled and the public told why it is recalled because it

01:19:59

The foundation has created much damage to society and Using this type of foundation be instead of the

01:20:10

Bible in the Bible alone using Kinsey's science Has destroyed marriages, you know, we can say

01:20:19

Today how many pastors are addicted to pornography? How many had sex before marriage how many 40 of well the fornicated is the correct biblical term?

01:20:30

So again, we're all products of the Sex education that's out there and if we the church can't clean up our own mess and we can't

01:20:41

What is based on demonic? How do we expect the world to follow Christ? So that has been my argument from the beginning

01:20:48

I will tell you there's hope because I did notice that the movie of the mind polluters was actually shown at one of the two

01:20:58

Lutheran seminaries For the Lutheran Church, Missouri Senate. It was shown at the seminary in Fort Wayne, Indiana I have not heard the reaction or the response there

01:21:08

I also when the day before I presented and met

01:21:14

Mark and Amber I actually got to present at the seminary to seminary students how

01:21:20

Kinsey got into the Lutheran Church, which was amazing in itself, but I got to present that information and The document that I gave the

01:21:29

Lutheran leaders as well as that presentation is on my website So if you go to Matthew18 .org

01:21:37

You can look at the the tab There's a tab for curricula review and the learning about sex series review is on there that I presented to the

01:21:46

Lutheran Church in 2001 and to the leaders of Concordia Publishing House and then you can also click on the presentation

01:21:54

Not only that I did at the Lutheran Seminary, but the one I did in Parliament in Uganda that halted sex ed so the current

01:22:05

Status of this situation in the Missouri Synod Lutheran Church is that this stuff still exists in their school curriculums

01:22:14

It is still there are Lutheran schools that you but there are Christian schools of several denominations that still use this series

01:22:23

But again When we look at all the craziness in this world, you know Leaders in the church are looking for something and this is advertised as a

01:22:32

Bible based Christ centered curricula to be used so if you're like, oh good.

01:22:38

There's a good Christian courage out here I can use if they knew this was based on the science of a pedophile.

01:22:44

They'd be horrified So again, that's why I wrote my book ten tips on how not to talk to your kids about sex

01:22:53

Because I went back to the Bible and I actually have a good Have a friend a pastor friend who actually wrote the song of songs

01:23:01

Commentary for Concordia Publishing House and he I I bugged him a little bit when

01:23:08

I was Unearthing all this back in 2001. I Consulted him a lot on what just you know,

01:23:16

God seems to be modeling a lot of modesty in Scripture You know, am I correct in that assumption and what

01:23:23

I'm reading and that he was able to expand out even more So I wrote my book in 2017 and I have now it's a revised

01:23:33

Standard I have a new version out there And it has the first half of it is the history of what we were talking about earlier in the show how

01:23:43

America was shifted the origins of sex education and then the second half is biblical principles on how we do

01:23:50

Talk to our kids about sex using God's Word. And by the way folks you can go to the archives of my radio program iron sharpens iron radio and if you go to the

01:24:06

Podcast section Which is identified as podcast and then in parentheses past shows you'll see a search engine there type in Audrey, I don't think

01:24:18

I've ever interviewed anybody else by that name, but if I did interview anybody else as well

01:24:25

Audrey Werner will certainly come up and all of her interviews with me which would include

01:24:32

The discussions we had on her book and also a more detailed discussion on the

01:24:40

Pervert who has been lauded as a great hero of sex research the satanic pedophile

01:24:47

Alfred Kinsey we have a much more detailed discussion on him as well and I've got to start contacting my a conservative

01:25:00

Bible -believing Christ honoring Missouri Synod Lutheran Friends in the pastoral ministry and also who are authors and the other folks

01:25:09

I got to start telling them that they've really got us purged that completely from their denomination. It's it's a it's a disgrace

01:25:17

Now when you say other denominations are also doing this. Are you mainly talking about? The liberal mainline churches.

01:25:25

Are you speaking about any? Church or denomination that is openly professes to be a a group that believes in the inerrancy of scripture and has a

01:25:39

Commitment to biblical sexuality and all that. I mean, who are you talking about here? Well, um, you know, it's interesting

01:25:47

I did a radio interview which was aired last week with Kevin Swanson of generations ministry and He has a huge following.

01:25:56

Oh, yeah. In fact, I interviewed Kevin Okay. Well Kevin's not Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod, but he and I really both because he was an

01:26:04

Orthodox Presbyterian when I interviewed him Yeah, he's not he's not Lutheran But his parents got the learning about sex theories and he was exposed to the same book

01:26:15

I was as a child and we both had traumatic experiences, you know with that I mean, we have it very vivid in our memory when we were exposed to those books.

01:26:25

So that's what I'm saying It's not just Lutherans that use this series. It's across the board people have used this because If you go to focus on the family, they have primarily

01:26:36

I think two or three Christian sex -ed materials and they're all based they all have that foundation on Kinsey if you go

01:26:45

To any Christian bookstore and and get a Christian sex -ed. Usually you're going to see the learning about sex series is there so Yes, there are other denominations.

01:26:56

And again, you know, I can't tell you exactly each school. I know one of the largest

01:27:02

Baptist churches here in the Dallas Fort Worth area Had the learning about sex series in their bookstore.

01:27:11

So You know, it is It is pervasive and It's sad to say it's one of the largest

01:27:20

Moneymakers have been for it's what put Concordia publishing on the map, you know was primarily they just published and mainly their customers were

01:27:31

Lutheran Church, Missouri Senate But when they came out with that sex -ed series in the 60s and you know

01:27:36

You had this explosion what seemed like just out of nowhere this sexual revolution Parents were hungry of all denominations.

01:27:44

So suddenly, you know, everyone was given You know the opportunity to purchase that curricula

01:27:52

Okay, we have Joseph and South Central Pennsylvania who asks do you think a part of the problem of parents and Pastors and other leaders who might otherwise

01:28:08

Embrace biblical moral values But who have fallen prey to the nonsense and even the devilish teachings that have their roots in Kinsey have been willing to accept this stuff is because of the scientific

01:28:29

Label that has been attached to it I have been astounded how many people who seem very intelligent otherwise who are conservative who believe in the

01:28:40

Bible who seem to live upright Christian lives who wants a scientist says something they seem to want to trust it with their lives and Totally bypass the things that they claim to cherish in regard to theology.

01:28:59

I Agree with that statement. I will say that the argument for putting sex -ed in the schools is always

01:29:06

Oh, well, this is science -based age -appropriate Materials.

01:29:12

Well when you again go back to the fact that the science was a pedophile Who determined that infants should have sex with adults?

01:29:21

That's not very age -appropriate, but Unfortunately, yes, you're right. You know science

01:29:27

At the time there was you know, it can be science came out there was so many innovations and so many

01:29:34

You know things happening that people trusted the science. I will say with this whole

01:29:41

Kovac thing. I Think people are starting to question at least the medical side.

01:29:46

Yeah, you have physicians now on both sides So thank goodness people are starting to question the authorities, which is good

01:29:53

We need to do we need to I always say to a patient be an educated Consumer need to do the research yourself.

01:30:02

So that's what we're finding is that's what we need to do So that's a great statement amen, and my my personal physician is vehemently opposed to The wearing of masks in order to prevent the spread of a virus because he knows that he knows that's absolutely ridiculous

01:30:20

He's very opposed to the current vaccines for the corona virus he has been publicly warning

01:30:28

The the populace about the dangers of these vaccines. He has these warnings on his website and My advertiser that many of you have heard on this program

01:30:41

Banu Gadi who is a pharmacist and owns several pharmacies. He is

01:30:47

Publicly in opposition to the use of the vaccines never believed in the masks as The the masks that most people are wearing and thinking that they are preventing the spread of any kind of a virus

01:31:05

He's very opposed to it. In fact his cousin who is another pharmacist Removed his son from a college that was insisting that all the students get vaccinated with the corona virus vaccines so There are people out there that are risking their livelihoods.

01:31:23

They're they're Yes, and I thank God for them and Yeah, you're right and you know

01:31:32

I'm a registered nurse and I deal with poppy the population I deal with is 55 and older and I would say the vaccine has been devastating on people's health.

01:31:42

I've seen an explosion of You know blood clots and and the like so so the people who are risking it to give us truth

01:31:51

There's a lot of validity to their truth because we are witnessing it as doctors and nurses and we're being silent

01:31:56

So that could be a whole nother show Chris. Yeah. Yeah, and I want to plug my own doctor's website heritage family health org heritage family health org and you could see on the website his warnings about the vaccines and it's all documented and He's really bravely risking his practice and his license by being involved in the forefront of opposition to this devilish

01:32:26

Goings -on as one of our listeners just called it in his his email

01:32:34

One of the things that shows you either the ignorance of Of The education system about what's going on or they are so tangled in a web of lies

01:32:51

They They they don't remember what they lied about before and they wind up showing themselves to be absolutely hypocritical to a laughably ridiculous degree

01:33:05

It was revealed in one of the Portions of the the video or the documentary

01:33:14

I should say the mind polluters where there was an Indiana Senate committee meeting on education and career development and The those that were your colleagues you and your colleagues were warned that you were forbidden to read the children's homework assignments because these committee hearings or this committee hearing was being live -streamed and Children might hear these things.

01:33:41

Yeah, I mean, they're already hearing them in the classroom Yes, the irony of that was and I love the fact that's the one point in the movie

01:33:51

And I've shown this movie in movie theaters as well, you know smaller groups But that is the one point where people chuckle in the movie because it is so ridiculous

01:34:01

That you know, the parents of Indiana went to school districts their school district They pulled out by the way, what the movie shows is in 43 states

01:34:11

Normally, it is illegal to show pornography or obscenity to children You will go to jail if you do that and you're caught doing that However in 43 states out of 50 if you show it to children in a school or a library

01:34:26

It's exempt. There is not a prosecution for that. So that is hence why

01:34:33

Parents are now at the after this movie. They're going to their school libraries They're going in to look at the curriculum or closely and finding this

01:34:43

Hardcore pornography and so parents in Indiana were able to compile this folder full of Porn which

01:34:53

I don't I cringe when parents start to read it at school board meetings because it is shocking

01:34:59

Information but it Desensitizes the more we hear this porn allowed the more we get desensitized

01:35:06

So I recommend give a folder to the school official or to the legislative official

01:35:13

But that's what they did in Indiana and yes they came out ahead of time and said you could not read any of this aloud because it's going to be live stream and Children might be watching

01:35:25

At the Senate hearing Laughably moronic Yes, it reminds me.

01:35:33

It reminds me of Katonji Brown When she was being interviewed and was asked the simple question

01:35:43

Can you define what a woman is? I don't know if that was the exact That way it was phrased and she said no,

01:35:49

I'm not a biologist and the thing that's interesting about that She was so fearful about offending leftists and yet the leftists

01:35:58

Don't believe biology has anything to do with whether you're a man and a woman anymore It's how you feel and think that determines whether you are a man or a woman according to them.

01:36:08

So she didn't even act Really according to the script of leftism because she was so fearful of offending people she got caught up in her own web of lies and Revealed how moronic that position is

01:36:26

Yeah, that's right. We have another anonymous listener who asks

01:36:34

How do I go about making sure that your documentary is? Presented in my congregation.

01:36:41

I would like to get the community involved By inviting them to see this in my congregation and perhaps even at a local theater

01:36:53

Well, you had talked about it. I Steer people to Mark and Amber's website, which is fearless features org

01:37:01

You can click on the mind polluters and it has all the information on the page to be able to purchase the movie you get it for a short period of time and you can show that in a movie theater or You can show that to just get a group of people in your home, or if just you want to watch the film

01:37:22

It is accessible to you that way Eventually, it will be through DVDs.

01:37:28

But again, it's it's taken a lot of prayer and it's going to take donation

01:37:33

To get that because they're basically funding this whole project So we do do free will for those of us who were in the movie and we have district

01:37:43

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01:37:49

To go toward them getting to distribute this and get it out there Being a

01:37:57

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01:49:15

Audrey, I want to make sure that before I go to any more listener questions that you basically summarize what you most want etched in the hearts and minds of our listeners today about this subject and about the documentary the mind polluters

01:49:33

Um, I would just say that everyone needs to see the documentary It's clear that the church and the traditional family has been under attack

01:49:44

This movie does a beautiful job of Summarizing up what the problem is and I always say we want to know we want to go into the enemy's war room

01:49:53

And we want to know what the problem is because we don't want to be part of the problem We want to be part of the solution and I believe for America Our greatest hope is if the

01:50:04

American churches wake up and get in this fight Often many of us in the movie don't even have pastors that are backing up or churches

01:50:15

That are excited about our movie. We're doing this because the Lord has prompted us to do it.

01:50:22

So we need Good men and women to get in this fight and we especially need the pastors in this fight.

01:50:30

So Please any pastor who's listening to this? I would encourage you to watch this movie

01:50:37

There is a message at the very end for pastors as well And be encouraged we are on the winning side here.

01:50:44

We have Almighty God with us So we are on the winning side and there is hope there is hope for America God can turn this around in a heartbeat, but it takes his people second

01:50:56

Chronicles 714 going back to him Repenting and going back to him then he can heal the land.

01:51:03

So it's vital that we know this information Amen Let's see here.

01:51:09

We have Bobby in Hartsdale, New York who wants to know There has been a day in history when feminists

01:51:20

Were in strong agreement with evangelical Christians on one point.

01:51:26

They were universally opposed to pornography Even stuff that might even be considered tame today like Playboy magazine and other similar periodicals and now the stuff that is available makes that stuff look like Boys Life magazine or something that is completely tame and not harmful how on earth are the feminists remaining silent about this because they know and One of the things that they are right on the money about very often is that women are the victims in this scenario of the promotion of this kind of garbage and obviously, it's

01:52:10

Our listener was correct in saying women are the victims. They're not the only victims, but they are a primary victim

01:52:18

Right, right and now men are becoming victims too with the gaining popularity of sodomy

01:52:25

You know, I I've known of men who have been raped at college as well That's a great question.

01:52:33

And I you know, I I can't help but think that the The feminists who are at the top of the chain are also the

01:52:42

Luciferian feminists, so You know when we look at the the whole athlete the women athletes, where are the feminists?

01:52:50

Why are they standing up for all the female athletes as these men who claim to be women are competing against them, right?

01:52:58

So that's a good question. I don't have an answer for that one And and I think is you have said there's so much irony

01:53:07

And and ridiculousness throughout all of this and it's not biblical based.

01:53:13

So Yeah, well, let's see. We have a another question

01:53:21

There is a question from CJ in Lindenhurst, Long Island, New York who wants to know

01:53:28

I Don't know if I missed the portion of the show where you were speaking about this

01:53:34

But is it clear that this sex curriculum that you are condemning is actually literally promoting pedophilia?

01:53:45

What the film I think does a good job of showing is that the techniques used

01:53:52

Teaching children about their genitals Teaching them about the act when they're very young and then you actually witnessing, you know

01:53:59

You can see that children are averted to that because they're not meant to have sex or be sexualized early on So that you know

01:54:10

The movie does a good job of showing how sex ed curricula and and you know

01:54:15

But some people would go well, we need to have them call the correct name for the genitals We need to they need to know the act for procreation

01:54:23

But again, we're talking about little children You know that we want our children to be morally innocent, but not naive

01:54:31

As I said back in the day to use, you know The morally neutral object the flowers the birds and the bees to communicate

01:54:38

God's life process So we have shifted to being graphic We have shifted from God covering us up to putting it out in the open there

01:54:48

And that has been the foundation of the whole sex education movement. So of course now today we have the whole pedophilia pro pedophilia, which again sex education is taking down those barriers and Preparing children for sex or to even be as you know

01:55:07

Said this movie is showing how the schools are now grooming children for child sex trafficking

01:55:14

So yeah, we're we're at a dangerous point here. Yeah, I remember seeing in the documentary that there is a push by many leftists

01:55:25

That goes under the banner of children's rights that children have the right to experience and enjoy sexuality and You cannot help but think that behind that Facade of standing up for children's rights is the goal of pedophilia being acceptable

01:55:47

Exactly. Exactly. And that is the whole Movement is to normalize everything and and most everything has been normalized

01:55:58

This is the last taboo and it like I said the Florida what governor

01:56:03

DeSantis did I I don't think parents are ready to Sexualize little children yet.

01:56:10

I I loved the parents supporting him on that when it was said it was an anti -lgbt

01:56:16

They came back and said it's an anti -grooming bill because that's an essence what it is

01:56:22

That's what they're doing in the school is grooming children rewiring their brains to accept and participate in perverse sexual activities yeah, if you are teaching and even our president

01:56:39

Joe Biden is saying that children Should have the right to mutilate their bodies physically through sexual

01:56:52

Surgeries and also through pharmaceutical methods Magically change their genders

01:57:00

Obviously, we know that cannot happen but but change their genders and appearance anyway

01:57:08

We have a president of the United States being adamant that children should have that right even

01:57:16

In defiance of the parents desires I don't even believe a parent should be legally permitted to allow that to happen

01:57:24

I think that parents that allow that should be in prison But but they don't even think many of these people including our president

01:57:31

I don't believe and think parents need to give consent for this and If a child can make that decision on his own or her own

01:57:39

Then why can't a young child make the decision to have sex with an adult? I mean, it's just really common sense.

01:57:47

I mean, this is just so revolting and satanic and your head spins

01:57:54

That there are people who on the outside are you're just average seemingly normal Neighbors and suburbia and They are actually supporting these things with their votes and their activities and politics

01:58:14

It's just I I don't even know what to say. I mean I Sure, hope that the post -millennialists are right and that this this all changes eventually where our globe is is

01:58:30

Honoring the law of God, but I want to once again give all of the contact information that people need you can go to the mind polluters calm the mind polluters calm and as far as Your own ministry that you have that you are a part of why don't you give our listeners the contact information for that Audrey?

01:58:55

Sure, it is Matthew 18 dot org and it's the

01:59:01

You can do one eight or you can do the Roman numeral FB. I I We have both domains

01:59:08

Well, thank you so much Audrey and I want to thank Maggie Conley a friend of yours for alerting me about this documentary the mind polluters and and Reminding me

01:59:19

I should get you back on the show and I'm very glad I did I want to thank everybody who listened and I want you all to always remember

01:59:26

For the rest of your lives that Jesus Christ is a far far greater Savior Than you are a sinner have a very safe Happy healthy and Christ honoring weekend in the