Open Air Theology -bible chat

And I understand that you know that we are in a spiritual battle. Constantly right and I would say especially for pastors. I just want to encourage people out there to be praying for your pastors. Listen, it's specially while they're in the pulpit.

Yeah, and so. Yeah, so my Lord's Day was good. You know you got to worship with with the fellow Saints. But I just felt like I was off today. I hadn't went back and listened to my message yet. I'll do that tomorrow, but I kind of feel like I dropped the ball to be honest with you.

Am I am I breaking up. Still is my internet acting up a little.

No, you sound good. You're loud. I mean, but that's normal. Let me turn down my thing here, hold on. You're running hot son. Put some water in that thing.

Hold on here here we go. Here I just want. I won't be there we go. So my wife. Just said that. I Have a typo. I said wife instead of hey wife. Okay, so she usually has to Edit everything for me. Otherwise.

It's it's boring.

I got one of those today.

Yeah, that's good. It's good to have those there. There are helper for our spelling issues. Yeah.

Yeah, for sure for sure. So how was your Lord's Day?

Man, it was really good. So Michael Beck was preaching today in Romans 13. He's been in in Romans forever and We started off, you know talking about Romans 13 and how Paul was giving us Orders or a command to obey area or obey every ordinance of man, you know that God has fears of Authority that he's commanded and one of them is, you know, civil authority government authority somewhere in the church Somewhere in the family and then there's also You know conscious issues conscience issues.

So today was the exceptions of when not to obey The government when they step outside their line, so it was really good everything everybody was waiting on that but even better was our evangelism ministry that that we've been heading up lately and we have we recently had a sign up and over 20 people have signed up to be a part of the street evangelism ministry.

Yeah, we went out to San Antonio yesterday at the pearl we had eight guys come out Have some opposition one guy was screaming in my face and it was it was fantastic it was a You know, God is faithful and and and and just growing the ministry being consistent.

So I'm really happy. Yeah excited, you know when you finish evangelizing you go out you just come back You can't even sleep because you're on cloud nine, you know God blesses the ministry of proclaiming the gospel.

So it was great great Lord's Day today. Oh.

Mine was was a blessing. I just got a preach on Galatians chapter 2 verse 17 and 19 just a really really great text. Galatians is super theologically Deep and rich and it's a well that I don't think anyone can find the bottom of and so it's a real blessing just to Be in there and then later just just got home like 15 minutes ago.

From being able to go to Eastside Baptist Church in Twin Falls. Listen to Mark Chansky preach and him talk about the Reformed Baptist Network and just got a fellowship with him. He's such a kind guy. And so it was a real blessing if Mark Chansky does see this.

So thank you again for being able to come out. It was a real blessing to the fellowship and worship God with you.

So he came out like in the spur of the moment, didn't he? Yeah, I did.

Crazy, so he was going to Nampa. Which is about two hours from where I live about two hours and 30 minutes away from the church that he was at. And he was going there because there's a church in Nampa sovereign Grace fellowship in Nampa that is joining RB net and so he was going out there to preach and introduce them to stuff and whatnot and.

So I guess while he's flying out here He's praying that that he he is only got so much time in Idaho. And he really is praying to find pastors that want to hear it. Just to hear from him and hear about the network.

And so he's praying about this and then I message. So it just the way that it happened. It was pretty cool. And so I messaged him. He called me. I was able to call five other pastors that are also 1689 in this area reformed Baptist.

This and we all met together at Eastside Baptist Church. We're just helping coordinate that it was it was a blessing. And so I think we all walked away encouraged and he gave a fantastic message.

That's awesome.

I don't know if y 'all heard but Christianity has lost its teeth. I.

Heard Elon Musk said that actually wouldn't it? Yeah. Yeah, Elon Musk.

Yeah.

And I you know like a part of me wants to agree with them because I believe that the teeth is the gospel of Jesus Christ and some of these Pastors and pulpits are so limp wrist dick. They wouldn't know the gospel if they read it from the scriptures.

Yeah, they're tripping over their skirts to get into pulpit. I think a lot of them.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You know like, you know, it's kind of I'm talking, you know, I'm kind of reminded of that song, you know, it's some shady song with a real slim shady. Please stand up as I was a real Christians, please stand up.

Right, but will you use the weapon of warfare that God has given to us? Right the gospel of Jesus Christ to go out and evangelize the world.

Right. Yeah, man, you know, I.

Christians man, I just cannot stand it. You show me a church that doesn't have strong men and I'll show you a dying church.

That's right, man. I mean, you know, I posted it today, you know, I just got through bragging. I can't help it because I'm just so happy that we had 20 people but hey, it's not enough. We need more people.

We can't let up. We need to go out get out of the pews and go share the gospel in our neighborhoods and stand up against this wickedness. That's coming against us. Constantly over and over and over.

So yeah, I hear people talking about we have to do something. I was like, well, we've been given our marching orders. To go out and to make disciples. Are you going out making disciples? And when they say no, I'm like, but I don't.

What do you got to say to me? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, everybody's happy about you know, when we in in service and I'm not talking about my church because thankfully We're getting out there and going up but a lot of these people say well, you know We got to be a gospel oriented church.

We need to go out there and share the gospel and everybody's in hearty agreement. Yes, amen, and then you're quiet, you know. So yeah, we need to we need to get out there guys and it's such a blessing, isn't it?

Every time I go out it's a blessing to go out there and share the gospel people. Yeah. Yeah.

It's hard to find a close second. Yeah, it really is. Right. I mean it is a chore, right? You're nervous before you go like listen, I've been doing street preaching since let's see.

I.

Started doing a van, you know evangelism regularly around 2011. All right street preaching specifically around 2012 2013. But just going out regularly sharing my faith with people since 2011 and I still I still get nervous.

Yeah, well one we're You know. So we need to be fearful of that to make sure that we're presenting gospel and also in communicating in gospel in a way that You know the same way we would evangelize our unbelieving family or unbelieving friend, you know pleading with the come lovingly but Bold enough and and loving enough to be able to tell them listen if God doesn't intervene in your life unless you realize your your spiritual Condition is dead in your sins.

If you don't come to Christ and you die in your sins. Eternity is a long time. It's it's forever.

Never ending never ending.

Yeah Good good plug. Braden you're right ready for us. I'm gonna be loud. Amen.

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Agree with everything you just said.

Yeah, well, you know all that just to close by saying yeah, I mean listen heathens are gonna heath. Yeah, right I don't expect Non-christians to act like Christians. All right, just like I don't expect Christians to act like heathens.

I expect what we're seeing to take place because they're worldly and the gospel is foolishness to those who are perishing. So all this stuff that we see going off you may I mean going on in our world today.

Well, it's because the gospel is foolishness. God said it is he he ordered it in such a way that it would be Right. Mm-hmm. I mean it just is what it is. What we have to do is be faithful and go out and preach that What they call foolishness because not only is it foolishness it's also the power of God to salvation.

Yeah. Yeah, and so you want to see the teeth of the gospel. Another of Christianity. It's the gospel. We got to go out there and preach. I.

Will I will say this flow on it is that I've been seeing a lot of a lot of Christians almost They almost say well the world's gonna be the world so and that's almost like a cop-out about not doing anything Right not saying anything.

Yeah, the world's gonna be the world. No. Absolutely. Yeah. No, they will but you're not being the church either right now by just blowing off. That's right. Like I don't know. I I shared a picture of it where it's of course the Last Supper and then there's people.

Well, the Last Supper painting is is blasphemous. Anyway, okay. Regardless the point of it is is that they're trying to blaspheme the Last Supper of Jesus Christ God in flesh By putting an act on regardless of the painting or not.

It was a terrible Sinful wicked thing that was being said. It needs to be called out people need to be told to repent and believe and and you know what? Yes, we should pray for their souls. But also One of the signs of the times right is that we we know that there there's going to be in the last days.

Which I think we've been in the last days for the last 2 ,000 years right now in the last days. There's gonna be wicked evil things going on. Like what we're seeing right now. And so yeah part of the cry to say Lord Jesus come that is an imprecatory Prayer that you are wanting the Lord Jesus to come and pour out wrath on these people.

The most the worst purgatory prayers for for the nation. When he comes when he comes that's it. Yep, those that didn't bend the knee Are gonna be tossed both body and soul into hell. Yep. So yes pray for him.

Yes, tell them to repent and believe but don't use it as a cop-out to just hide and not say anything and. And it's I don't know it was kind of a little bit shameful. Some of the things I was seeing on my Facebook post with.

It was something for the most part people think that you know, as long as I say something on Facebook, I'm doing something. No. As long as you're doing something in your echo chamber brother. You ain't doing nothing.

Take it to the public square. Preach the gospel. That's right. Anyways, what are we talking about? Light and there's.

Kinda we glimpsed into it. We did this I would say we destroyed it is but I.

We put the people's elbow the macho man Randy Savage elbow, right.

You.

Should throw this up on the screen. I got no one ready for us.

Hot spot your phone. Oh, yeah. He's frozen.

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Yeah, you're better, huh, you're better, okay, I just hop spotted the phone yeah.

Yeah, yeah, right.

He's talking bad about you. I tell you I have experience this so I'm just saying I know I Gotta put it on hot spot quick when that happens.

All right, so my phone this up. Yes, throw it up. All right, so we gave y 'all a sneak peek of it last week. We're gonna go through it today.

That's right. Yeah, so right here what you are looking at on your screen is what's off of latent flowers. Soteriology one-on-one's website on here. He wrongly calls it provisionism because everybody knows it's really late in ISM and so last week we went through these single point by single point and I I think It just showed that they were butchering the context of each one of these verses and taking them out of context to fit fit into a presupposition and Elevating their free will to a place.

This.

Layout that you see right here and the content and the and the proof text that they give they're doing the very thing. That they accuse us of doing of taking things out of context. That's right all right, they accuse us of taking things out of context and they develop something that takes everything out of context.

And just like I told the other guy and and for the right because I Challenged to debate latent flowers one time he would not debate me and then I debated Jason Brita which I Won't break the news, but but I've been talking back and forth with him.

Anyways, I debated Jason Brita and that was one of the things that he says that you know Calvinists take things out of context and here they are taking everything out of context and I told him that I can right.

No, like I can give you the context. Biblical context and historical context of every quote. Every verse that I mentioned. He could not.

Yeah. And he couldn't answer the questions that met. You answered every question that that he had offered and he couldn't answer any of the questions. That you you answered back to him and then he just he chalked it up on not being a good debater.

But you know every one of the verses. I think we went over it last week.

Everyone.

Well, didn't we go through. Well, yeah, but we went through several in every section. We read and we would agree with them in their context like you had said, but they take it out of context with their.

Yeah.

So what we're doing today, so you obviously we we fix the title from provisionism to latent ism. But what we after last week have done is we are going to fix Latent ism God's love and provision according to scripture, of course, because we don't like to insert our presuppositions into the text and this is what we have come up with is What am I doing?

Bam, there it is. Oh, yeah.

Look at how beautiful this is. I can say I'm a provisionist right here if this is what it means. That's good.

That's it. The Lord has provided right look at this.

Not that not that one.

Up there. Oh beautiful. Everybody you need a you need to take a screenshot of this and And read through it later and share it around on social medias. I'll try to post it up on the book face later today, but you can do it yourself as well.

Yeah, so we're gonna go through this one point by one point. We might get through them all day. We may not who knows but as you can tell latent ism fix we have our logo up there. I don't know my name on there.

God's love and provision according to scripture, that's what we want to define all these things based off of. And I will be going back and forth between this just to show the difference between each one of the points.

All right, let's do it. Okay, let's do it. Guys want to start with number one. Yeah first one. You've got to pull it up. I can't say okay. Yeah. Oh. That's good. Go ahead. Read it. I can't see it that that great to read.

Working. I'm working on my iPad. Is mine. Something happened to my laptop.

Okay, so I got it. God the only sovereign first uncreated cause has predestined all things according to his holy Wise will and therefore nothing is meaningless or without providence.

That's a pain that I can get behind so let's just look at this the comparison people sin which last week We talked about how it's trying to remove What we have died in Adam with that that there's almost what what's being put out here by latent ism in general is.

Is trying to remove that fallen nature that death nature that child of wrath that we see In Ephesians 2 and Romans 5 From the fall and so I fixed it now with starting off with talking about God's sovereignty.

Right. That's why it should be God first.

God first.

God first. And and what was wrong with the people sin the way they put it said that. Let's go back to the other one real quick. Yeah people sin which separates all from fellowship with God therefore. Because man sinned they're saying therefore a divine provision.

Became necessary. Now, what was our argument against that the way?

Well, so if you look at what he's trying to get at you look at what he's trying to get at is that we're separated. Because we sin so personal sin. So, you know, so a child isn't separated. He isn't born separated from God because it hasn't sand but once it sins, it's separated from God.

This you see what I'm saying? And so he's not looking at the fact that that we are born in Adam. Unable to please God we are born with a sin nature. So we're not saying that a child is born. You know right out the womb.

Sinning like that's not what we're we're trying to say. But they are separated in the sense that they are born with a sin nature. Inherit it the sin nature of Adam. As goes the King so goes the kingdom.

Adams and Adams fall. All men fell in.

Adam.

Say that yeah federal headship, right? And so he's trying to say that we're separated because of our own personal sin and we're saying no we're separated. Because of Adams sin he brought sin and death into the world.

Right.

So anybody born of natural generation from the time of Adam to this point even now today has inherited Adam sin guilt. Just at the moment of conception. Positionally. Positionally, we are separated from God.

Yep, that's absolutely right and we did talk about last week. One thing that you did say Tom That I appreciate is that the the fall happened because of the cross not the other way around. It's not like yeah Ross happened because of the fall.

The the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus Christ was not plan B. It's always been plan a and so in this original point right here. What's there's people sin. It's almost making it seem that well, Jesus was the second plan, which is not the case.

He did look at Romans 512 we looked at Romans 6 23, I believe we even went into Hebrews 9 22. If I can recall from last week Isaiah 59 2 it was that the one that was just. Why is that in there? There's just a complete.

I think what they were trying to insert in that text was not according to the context of Isaiah.

No, no. Yeah, go ahead. According to Israel like it has nothing, you know, because you have to you have to think about it God has a kind of covenant relations. Excuse me a relationship. What was it 59?

59 to yep, 59 to Isaiah 59 to yeah, so God has a is in covenant with Israel. He's not in covenant with the Palestine's is not in covenant with all the Jebusites and all the other eyes. Okay, 59 to you.

Yes, but your iniquities have made a separation between you and I.

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Mean between you and you and your God and your sins have hidden Excuse me, and your sins have hidden his face from you so that he does not hear. Again, this is directly speaking to Israel. That's the historical context as well as the biblical context.

Right, Isaiah is writing this calling the Israelites to repentance.

That's right.

Because they turned they did what was right in their own eyes according to judges, right? They had they were supposed to live a certain way. They turned their back on God. They went after idols and what happened they fell into sin.

And so there was oppression there was sin. There was guilt because they sinned. But that's not that's not the reason why we stand separated from God. The reason is because we are by nature dead in our trespasses and sins.

Now let's look at it this way, so let's say. Let's say I fell into sin. I don't want to put that on anybody else. Let's say I fell into sin. This word can be for me, right? So if I fell in a sin, I can read here and say behold The Lord's hand is not short that he cannot save or his ear dull that he cannot hear.

Like all I have to do right here as a saved person who is swimming in my sin. It's the call looking thumbs up. It's the call out to God and ask for forgiveness, right? First John Chapter 1. I think it's verse 8, right?

He talks about Verse 9, excuse me. It it talks about confessing our sins and he will forgive us right and so and then right here. It's because of my iniquities and I'm living in sin. It says but your iniquities have made a separation between you and your God.

Right, and so this is a you know for a believer we can say yes and amen. This is you know, we can we can take a clear application from that and apply it to our lives. But we cannot apply this to the Jebusites.

That's right back then nor. Can we apply it to the heathen of today? Hallelujah.

Good stuff. So what we're looking at right now is six Bible verses that fit into What the definition of P in is in our in our points. Here we're taking back the word provide.

We're taking back the word provide. What you gonna do late. What you gonna do breath?

We're taking it back.

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Don't know if we want to read each one of these these Bible verses that we got up here or what. Let's just you know.

The audience y 'all want us to go through all the Bible verses.

I mean, there's a lot of them. I think we do need to go through one. Somebody somebody. Holler. But I do want to go through Ephesians and this is talking about this is talking about the planets. Ephesians 1 4 do it, right?

All right.

It says just as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world. That we would be holy and blameless before him in love. Mmm, he chose us in other words. Like you had said Braden like we had said last week that the plan of redemption Was a covenant in the Godhead that he planned before the foundations of the world.

He has names that are written in the Lamb's Book of Life before the foundation of the world. And if your name is written in that Lamb's Book of Life, which he chose us in him before the foundation of the world That's when the plan started.

It was an eternal plan.

That's right, yeah, man, I love that sweet covenant theology at 46 9 through 10.

Pushback on what they would say. Oh, yeah, go ahead. This is speaking to the Apostles only. This is something that I've heard them say. So like the same way that I can take application from that Isaiah passage if I was you know, if I had fallen into sin as a Christian and I'm.

And there's a separation with my relationship with God so it's not that I'm not a Christian, but I because of my sin I have. My sins have hidden his face from me, right?

Yeah.

But that's how you can apply this because he's speaking yes, he's speaking to his the Apostles. Who is writing this to Believers, right? So let's just say he's just speaking to his Apostles, which I don't think that's the case.

All right. He's not yeah.

But I'm just saying let's let's just give them that bone for a second. In the same way that I can apply Isaiah 59 1 2 to my life as a believer I can also apply what this is saying as a believer. If that was the case I can make direct application to us.

However, that is not the case. Paul is writing a letter to the Ephesians Church and they're taking direct application that it's speaking to them verse 1.

It says to the Saints who are Ephesus. Yes faithful in Christ like In this not only that but guess what the great unity is across all 66 books of the Bible. It always describes the same means of salvation and that is in Jesus Christ.

We have been predestined and conformed to him justified Sanctified and eventually glorified. That's exactly what the next scriptural rehearsal here is Romans 8 29 30, which is the golden chain of redemption.

Here in Ephesians, you see the God Father God our Father Choosing us predestinating us According to his goodness. Yeah in Christ Jesus adoption how. Adoption right there faith in Christ, right? We're we're we're made a part of the family of God.

To the praise don't adopt ourselves.

That's right in him. We have redemption through the blood the forgiveness of transgressions according to the riches of his grace. Verse 7 Which he caused to abound to us.

I'm pretty sure that one's talking about God right there. Oh, okay. It wasn't on me.

No, it wasn't it was all Soledad Gloria, right? This you have to butcher this text beyond recognition to be able to come away with provisionism.

Or latinism, excuse me. Yeah, don't you ever misname it? Okay my fault.

Well, I do my I must say I there is a chicken. All right, okay, it's the late Isaiah. Isaiah.

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Love our brothers and sisters in Christ that are provisionist. Y 'all y 'all are wrong on your soteriology. I love you.

Yeah, but you're wrong on it. I mean when Layton came to the conference we had good fellowship. And Layton knows. Listen, I guarantee you Layton can watch us and laugh. Good, right. Because Layton hung out with us and he saw us making fun of each other.

All right.

That's just how them guys are and That is like if you want to be our friend, you better be tough okay, cuz there I grew up in the trailer park and like my song says there's no safe places in a place when your place Is on a hitch, okay.

We don't play like that, you know, even Layton.

He kind of made he kind of had a big dig on on Kevin Hey in the conference because he told him that I look like his dad.

That's right.

That's right and Greg Moore was going man don't tell don't tell your wife Kevin.

So Isaiah 46 9 through 10 is that it's God speaking to Israel that that I Have. I have predestined these things to occur so that you may know that I am the one and only God. There's none before nor after.

So God's sovereignty is a thing that separates him from other from all the false gods. Of course. The road the golden chain of redemption. Here in Romans 8 acts 4 is Peter giving a sermon and he's saying the The people the Pontius Pilate the people of Israel the Gentiles all those that were against Christ Jesus.

It was according to God's predetermined plan to crucify Jesus Christ. Genesis 50 20 the instant with Joseph being sold into slavery in there. It says that you meant it to evil against me. But God meant it for good.

Not that God used it for good. But God meant it for good. The same exact you know, actually being sold into slavery meant.

Rc spro has a teaching on that and so does dr. White, but I don't think they go back far enough. Burneth barn. How you say it?

Burneth.

Far far away. Yes, so they'll take it and they'll put it like they'll begin the story like they'll start it there. But they'll take it to where Joseph was actually sewed into slavery. I Think we do better if we take it to her.

It's actually first mentioned and that is Genesis chapter 15. So in Genesis chapter 15. In verse 13, it says this. So so this is when God had put Abraham asleep after he Split open the the animals and he goes to walk through them.

Verse 13 it says. Then the Lord said to Abram No for certain that your offsprings will be sojourners in the land That is not theirs and will be servants there and they will be afflicted for 400 years.

But I will bring judgment on the nation that they serve and afterwards they shall come out with great possessions.

Right.

All right. So how did all that? How did God in? his sovereignty Caused that to happen. Well, Joseph was sold and yeah hardens. First of all Joseph had to be sold into slavery By his brothers and then his brother famine has to come which causes his brothers to go to Egypt seeking grain.

That's right. Joseph has to forgives it to give his brothers and then the Israelite people are welcomed in Egypt in the land of Gosheh. Right, and then Joseph dies and there comes a Pharaoh who knows not Joseph.

So on and so forth. All right, so it's all about preserving the seed. Yeah yeah, that whole incident is a prophecy given to Abraham. A Prophecy given to Abraham and so what what. And so when he says God meant for good.

That's pointing us back to Genesis chapter 15 beginning in verse 13 and it tells you how he means it for good. It's a part of that covenant promise. They will come out with great possessions.

That's right Joe. Joe 42 to no purpose of yours can be thwarted. The purpose that job is speaking about in there is the situation that he's in and it's dire. Seven kids seven sons three daughters boils from head to toe.

He's saying that that's the purpose of God and it cannot be thwarted. Remarkable faith from Job in there. So that's the context. Quick words from each one of them without opening up each one.

Good stuff.

Regeneration, should we see?

You know this one. Let's see what they first. They first put responsible that is everyone is able to respond to. I just want to throw up. Everyone is able to respond to God's appeal for reconciliation.

Because a divine provision will be heard and understood.

And never mind that you're dead in your trespasses and sins slaves of the devil. And it's also the message is foolishness. You can respond. Oh, yeah, you can. Just not positive.

It's right. Yeah, what's it. Consistent with your nature and not only that. It kills Ephesians chapter 1 for that. We just read that he chose particular people, you know. He's making salvation possible to everyone here that the father chose someone but now he's gonna send his son to make salvation possible for.

Entirely different group other than. Oh, you didn't know that the father chose a people but the son died for a different people and the Holy Spirit just doesn't know who to apply the purpose to. You didn't read that right?

Yeah, it's all.

Jeff it's up to you. It's in.

It's.

We said this last week if it if responsible means that we are responsible for our sin I would say amen to that but that is not the way that they take this responsible. So this is that that we everyone Has the ability to respond positively to the gospel call in their nature outside of?

The outside of God regenerating them. Which Yeah, like I said want to throw up what we put is Regeneration. Every responsible we put regeneration. It says in here regeneration is the new birth.

Yep.

All right. Oh, oh I see granite.

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Let's go back just a little bit. Is that close enough?