The Mount of Transfiguration, of Internet Trolls, and the Protevangelium of James
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Started off with a look at the Mt. of Transfiguration from a little different angle, one that might shed some light on why Moses and Elijah were there. Then, unfortunately, I had to deal with a particularly pernicious and reprehensible Internet troll's lies and slander, but tried to make an application in seeing the danger of cultic KJVOism. Then I simply read the entirety of the Protevangelium of James. Yep, had a little story time at the end. 90 minutes!
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- Morning greetings, welcome to the dividing line going to start need to start today with something that has eternal meaning before we have to delve into The how is it that dr.
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- Mohler puts at the genesis 3 world that we live in if you have your
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- Bible or phone or iPad or Have a screen up or however it is you wish to do it
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- Matthew chapter 17 begins with these words six days later
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- Jesus took with him Peter and James and John his brother and led them up on a high mountain by themselves and He was transfigured before them and his face shown like the
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- Sun and his garments became as white as light And behold Moses and Elijah appeared to them talking with him
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- Peter said to Jesus Lord, it is good for us to be here if you wish I will make three tab on that tabernacles here one for you one for Moses one for Elijah and When Luke records this he is nice enough to say that Peter didn't know what he was talking about.
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- I love that Wonder where it came from While he was still speaking a bright cloud overshadowed them and behold a voice out of the clouds said this is my beloved son
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- With whom I am well, please listen to him when the disciples heard this they fell face down to the ground were terrified
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- And Jesus came to them and touched them and said get up and do not be afraid and lifting up their eyes They saw no one except Jesus himself alone this
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- Incident as I said recorded for us in the synoptic Gospels is
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- Known as the incident the Mount of Transfiguration the The fascinating story of Jesus going up on the mountain with Peter James and John which would seem to indicate that they would be identified as the inner circle the inner apostolic circle and He has transfigured before them and his face shines like the
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- Sun his garments become as white as light and then two figures come now how
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- Peter James and John know who these individuals are Did Jesus explain it later?
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- we're not we're not told but Moses and Elijah appear to them talking with him talking with Jesus and then they're overshadowed by the the cloud and the father speaks in the cloud, this is my beloved son hear him and We all know the story and that's
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- That's the danger That's the danger. We all know the story We've heard it it's become familiar to us and Once in a while we will be challenged to think through some questions, maybe we've not considered about the story before and so one of the questions that is is asked is
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- Why Moses and Elijah Why Moses and Elijah? Why not
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- Abraham Isaac and Jacob? I mean
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- Matthew's writing to a Primarily Jewish audience we can tell that from the argumentation.
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- He uses the citations he uses the fact that he breaks the
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- Genealogy of Jesus up into Portions that would be significant to a
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- Jewish reader, you know, there's there's a lot of reasons why we can we see that and so It would seem to make sense
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- Abraham Isaac Jacob, maybe maybe David and Solomon or something to emphasize the kingship of Jesus.
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- Yeah you know and Probably some but we're back in Bible College seminary someplace decades ago
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- It was explained to me that well in all probability, it's Moses and Elijah Because they are the law and the prophets they represent the law and the prophets
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- Moses the one through whom the law comes have the same thing in John chapter 1 and Elijah Great for one that you know sort of sort of one of the initial prophets
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- Certainly a lot of focus upon him in the Old Testament narrative and so they represent the law and the prophets and the law and the prophets are testifying to the
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- Messiah well that's a very common understanding and I am
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- NOT going to suggest that there's not a lot of good merit to that. You've probably heard that And what happens is you hear you hear a good explanation and The tendency is that's good enough and each time you see that text in the future you just Go with it and Don't really think too much more about it.
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- Well, I've mentioned in the past that I I learned in seminary to learn from people who might not
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- Cross their T's and dot their I's just like me their church services might be a little bit different their
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- Conclusions on things might be a little bit different. I went to a seminary that was way to my left now it's so far to the left.
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- I I'm not sure I could find it with a pair of binoculars, but I Learned in my time at Fuller seminary
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- To Listen learn critically with discernment and Keep the gems and Get rid of the other as best you can at that age and with the experience and knowledge that you have anyways and I'm glad that I learned to do that and There are times when listening to someone who is not and Again, yeah, you have to be grounded.
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- I've I've warned people I saw people go into fuller knowing what they believed or at least thinking they know what they believed and Graduating with a master's degree in confusion.
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- So there's obviously a balance here I'm not suggesting you go running off and to spend your time listening to liberals for the fun of listening to liberals but the point is sometimes someone outside of your
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- Narrow group might have a perspective to where they can ask a question or have an insight that you wouldn't have gotten otherwise and You don't have to embrace their liberalism to appreciate the different perspective that makes you go.
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- Oh Hadn't I hadn't seen that before? sometimes where we look at something so straight on and we and we're afraid to look at it from another perspective at all that Doing this like oh look at that.
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- I didn't I didn't see that before and that's what's happened to me
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- When it comes this text Was listen to someone who would not not normally someone
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- I'd be listening to but again, I do a lot of research read a lot of stuff and Question was raised and I went
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- Whoa, I've never even thought about that Never even thought about that fascinating Moses and Elijah there's been a lot of discussion outside of just law and profits representation and If you look at the
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- Allison, let's say the guy it's the three huge three volume Matthew commentaries forget what it cost me to get that thing
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- That's it's expensive, but they have a couple pages on all sorts of interesting speculations on this particular subject
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- But let me take you back To the
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- Old Testament for just a moment and see if maybe possibly this might
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- Make some sense to you Exodus chapter 33 Exodus chapter 33
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- Yahweh said to Moses I will also do this thing of which you have spoken for you have found favor in my sight and I Have known you by name
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- Then Moses said I pray you show me your glory
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- They said I myself will make all my goodness pass before you and will proclaim the name of Yahweh before you and I will be
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- Gracious to whom I will be gracious and I'll be have show compassion whom I will show compassion should sound familiar
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- Romans 9 But he said you cannot see my face
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- For no man can see me and Live then Yahweh said behold There is a place by me and you shall stand there on the rock and it will come about while my glory is passing that I by that I will put you in the cleft of the rock and Cover you with my hand until I have passed by then
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- I will take my hand away and you shall see my back But my face shall not be seen
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- Now there's a lot here about knowing Moses by name and proclaiming his name and again in our
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- Western society names and proclamation of names and stuff does not have the meaning that it had before and All that's very interesting that's not we're looking at today the point is this
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- Moses wanted to see the glory of God wanted to see the very face of Yahweh and Yahweh said
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- Can't be done I'll hide you. I'll hide you. I will give you a
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- Tremendous manifestation of my glory, but I will hide from you Well, we all know that story too at least we're supposed to What about Elijah well first Kings chapter 19 first Kings chapter 19 and We know
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- Elijah is fleeing and God's taking care of him.
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- The angel Lord came and provided him food and He rose verse 8 he rose and ate and drank and went and went in the strength of That food 40 days and 40 nights to horror of the mountain of God Then he came there to a cave and lodged there and behold the word of Yahweh came to him and he said to him
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- What are you doing here Elijah? Verse 10. He said I have been very zealous for Yahweh the
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- God of hosts the sons of Israel have forsaken your covenant torn down your altars and killed your prophets with the sword and I Alone am left and they seek my life to take it away so he said go forth and stand in the mountain before Yahweh and Behold Yahweh was passing by sound familiar
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- Sound familiar should And a great and strong wind was rending the mountains and breaking in pieces the rocks before Yahweh but Yahweh was not in the wind and After the wind an earthquake, but Yahweh was not in the earthquake after the earthquake a fire see the connections here back to Moses and Fire and wind an earthquake and all the physical manifestations of God's presence and after the earthquake of fire
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- But Yahweh was not in the fire and after the fire A sound of a gentle blowing when
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- Elijah heard it notice this he wrapped his face in his mantle and Went out and stood in the entrance of the cave and behold a voice came to him and said
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- What are you doing here Elijah? Then he said I have been very zealous for Yahweh the
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- God of hosts and he repeats what he has said and then Yahweh Informs him of the 7 ,000 who've not bowed the knee to bail, but what does
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- Elijah do he wraps his face in? his mantle
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- He hides his face Yahweh passes by both these men
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- Do not see the face of God They had encounters with God that were
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- Tremendous and unique But they didn't see the face of God until Matthew 17 until Matthew 17
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- Is that why they're there ever even considered it?
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- They couldn't see until God did something and Notice Jesus is transfigured and his face shown like the
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- Sun his garments become white as light Remember what happens with Moses when he comes down off the mountain? He has to cover his face because it's been the presence of God But this is a light that comes from within not because Jesus has been close to someone this is who he is
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- Moses and Elijah appear to them talking with him Moses and Elijah finally got to see the face of God incarnate in Jesus, but there's no modalism.
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- No, no modalism because then what happens afterwards, you know, Peter does his babbling and And once his babbling is done or well actually while he was still speaking a bright cloud overshadowed them behold a voice out of the
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- Cloud said this is my beloved Son with whom I am. Well, please listen to him and So you have just as you had in Matthew chapter 3
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- The Father speaking from heaven. The Son is upon the earth. The Spirit descending as a dove
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- You have clear distinction made between the persons You have the same distinction made at the end of Matthew Baptizing them in the name singular of the
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- Father and of the Son Holy Spirit not the name of Father Son Holy Spirit not as if these are just we crammed together, but there is a distinction made and yet a unity made and Here on the
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- Mount of Transfiguration Jesus isn't the father but he is the one who reveals the
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- Father and And in seeing him Moses and Elijah finally see
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- What they had not seen? before They see the very face of God no hiding them
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- Don't have to be hidden in a rock. It's all a mountain It's all on a mountain but No hiding them
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- No, no veil over the face with the mantle No hand in the cleft of the rock
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- Now they see God's face and it is an amazing thing to think of the condescension of The triune
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- God and especially the Son and is entering into human experience That is revealed in these words there is so much
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- More evidence of the deity of Christ in the synoptic
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- Gospels than most of us are familiar with So much more so much more
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- So think about that and compare, you know later on I'm going to it's gonna be story time with Uncle Jimmy and We're gonna be looking at The infancy gospel of James the protevangelium of James and there is just such a huge contrast
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- Between the canonical Gospels and their their deep intimate connection to the
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- Old Testament text their consistency their beauty their weight their depth and Everything else that anyone has ever pretended
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- Had anything to do with Jesus or Gospels or anything like that So Beautiful beautiful insight beautiful is
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- I hope it's useful to you I hope it's something that you want to take some time to consider I want to start off with that because as I said toward the end of the program, we're gonna be reading rank heresy
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- Which you know, I've decided to do I I'm gonna have to go see young Messiah.
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- It was Michael Gallagher was pushing it and Hugh Hewitt's pushing it and focus on the family's endorsed it and Everything I'm seeing says that the book upon which is based is written by person who pushes
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- Gnosticism some Anne Rice I believe also writes vampires novels and the brief the brief preview
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- Has Jesus opening his hands and a bird flies out? That's that's the
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- NOS. That's not gospel Thomas infancy gospel Thomas the birds and Quran and all the rest that garbage and it's what you'd expect and Here's the problem the
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- Spirit of God Said this far and no farther and if you decide to go farther than that You have got no safe footing there's no light there's no revelation and So I'm gonna have to go see it.
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- I'm gonna have to go see it. So I Don't want to rely on somebody else I'm not one of those people that gets previews and all the rest that kind of stuff because they know what
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- I'm gonna say So at the end of the program, we're gonna be looking at Silliness from the 2nd century
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- Which ended up by the way having tremendous impact upon the development of Roman Catholic theology, but that's an issue we'll get into later on but before we get there,
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- I Need to Deal with a issue where quite honestly
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- Basically how I feel about dealing with stuff like this is I'm reminded of the look on Ted Cruz's face
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- When trying to get a straight answer out of Donald Trump in a Republican debate and getting nothing but insults lying
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- Ted And then discussions of the sizes of hands if you wrestle with the pigs, you're gonna get mud on you and That's just how it goes
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- Unfortunately, if you try to stand up and do something if you try to Speak the truth if you try to in any way
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- Promote godliness, you're you're gonna get attacked. I Got it.
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- Understand that it's how it works I've said many times only semi jokingly that if I believed even 10 % of what
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- I could Google about myself, I would slap myself There's just all sorts of garbage out there
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- You know young Luke who's called in a couple times you wouldn't believe the number of people descending on him sending him
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- YouTube lists Attacking me for everything under the Sun. I mean just the vile personal nature of stuff it's just and And it's you know,
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- I can only hope the Spirit of God helps and realize, you know, they're not dealing with his arguments They're just attacking him.
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- I wonder why that might be well Yeah Very rarely can people deal with the actual substance of the argumentation the statements.
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- They have to attack the person and that's exactly what
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- I'm Dealing with in regards to an anonymous internet troll now
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- I've identified this individual. We know next to nothing about him. He's anonymous
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- He is a King James only ist There are no moral parameters on this person's behavior
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- He has posted the most vile Disgusting deplorable
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- Material of anyone that I know on the internet He is beneath contempt in his behavior and In a sane world
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- No one would ever hear a word. He has to say because everyone would have would have blocked him and He would be shunned
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- But we don't live in a sane world anymore We we live in a
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- In a world where Morals and ethics have gone out the window. So this morning
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- I got up and I noticed a tweet from Theodore Shoebat And why don't we show this tweet if we can?
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- Um Here it is you're stupid enough to think that's an insult st.
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- Thomas Moore is one of my influences I had tweeted during the During Michael Brown's show yesterday
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- Michael Brown Had attempted to contact the shoe bats had attempted to reason with Waleed and I told
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- Michael Michael You're too kind You're going to get this thrown back in your face
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- These guys are Christian jihadis they're crusaders they're militants
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- They Have become Wild -eyed Romanists who don't seem to recognize that the leadership of Rome Will probably get rid of them once somebody
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- Informs them of their behavior and their claims and things like that though be pergnazia
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- Rome doesn't get rid of anybody So I guess not but anyhow And of course while he answered
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- Michael in exactly the way that I expected he would But he had already extended the invitation to Theodore to be on the program to explain
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- Theodore's statement Where he had said that Jesus would have killed Homosexuals had they been in the temple and So I Downloaded the program yesterday
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- And listened to it last evening. I Honestly didn't think it was the last more than three or four minutes because immediately, you know,
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- Theodore just wants to keep talking you know, he's used to doing videos where he's not interrupted and and That's why
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- I don't think Unless it was a debate where he was in a different room or something you could actually shut off the sound
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- I don't think a debate would ever work with him in the same room I don't think he'd allow it to happen It's sort of like looking at the amount of times speaking the amount of minutes speaking
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- In the Republic Republican debate. So the same thing will happen this evening if I recall correctly in the last debate
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- Trump got it was like 22 minutes to 16 minutes to 12 minutes to 7 minutes or something like that.
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- It was just just ridiculous You know the the the guy who talks a lot will talk a lot and Carson got the same amount of time that he did
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- It would have gotten if he were there yeah, so anyway,
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- I Didn't think that the conversation was gonna continue it just sounded to me like Michael was gonna have to hang up on him, but he managed calming down and They ended up doing the first hour of the program and You know
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- Theodore was going that you know the Crusades were great and this Saint said this and that Saint that said said that and and you know this, you know,
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- Thomas Aquinas said this and Thomas Aquinas said that and and When Michael asked him so that the
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- Jewish person who ran into a gay pride parade in Israel and started stabbing people Theodore was like I have a problem.
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- I don't make problem that So this is I I made the comment that you need to understand there were
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- Inquisitors because he was defending the Inquisition too There were inquisitors Who while torturing?
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- Someone would speak of how of their love for them because by torturing their body.
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- They were saving their soul and The scary part is there were inquisitors that really believed that they were so perverted
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- So So much like the Pharisees that they could call white black and black white light darkness and darkness light so while you're cranking the rack up and Ripping a person's body apart.
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- I sure you love you in Jesus while you're doing it Religious perversity that's what that's what a false gospel gives you when you when you take the gospel out of Christianity these people were
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- Trinitarians, but no gospel. It doesn't matter It doesn't matter so I Had tweeted that and this was his response.
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- You're stupid. Oh, this is 25 year old young man very arrogant deeply deeply arrogant, but you know his primary influence is
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- Waleed and Waleed's deeply arrogant too. So you're stupid enough to think that that's an insult st.
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- Thomas more is one of my influences. So I Hit reply To respond back wrote something and a red screen came up and said
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- Your account is suspended. Your account is suspended go to Twitter to deal with this issue so I go to twitter .com
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- and by the way the Twitter interface stinks
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- That's just that is just that is the only way To put it is that that interface just in comparison to almost anything else just really really stinks and I was informed once I logged in and had to give them some information
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- That I had violated the the standards of Twitter And that I had to delete some tweets and What tweets did
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- I have to delete to bow my knee to big brother? Oh eight If you haven't read 1984 yet, you need to you need to read 1984 because we are there we are there
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- Big brother Here's the first tweet I had to delete I Don't know if we can bring that up there
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- But there it is of Stalkers and haters of the truth.
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- I will be exposing dr. Ock of do -right Christians on Tuesday's dividing line now realize
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- This is the man who will post things about my being a liar He will post the most personal vile insults
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- Who do you think complained about this? Who do you think did this?
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- I think it's pretty obvious to all of us and here is the second one that I had to delete right there
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- Early morning DL tomorrow 9 30 a .m. Mountain Standard Time 11 30 a .m. Eastern Standard Time exposing dr.
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- Ock of do -wrong stalkers I like that then serious stuff So you can go on Twitter and you can find vile
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- Profanity and Just mockery of Christianity and everything
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- But I had to delete those now, you know that whoever this guy is we don't know what his name is
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- I personally think he probably lives in his mother's basement Probably mid 30s never worked a job
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- That's my guess. But since he's decided to be anonymous and do nothing but attack people then we can assume things, you know
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- He doesn't go out there and do debates. He doesn't you know, he just hides behind a keyboard So he's he is completely anonymous.
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- I don't even have an audio recording of the guy so He's just he's my stalker he's one of my
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- I have a few But he is a stalker. He is an online stalker I have seen for example
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- Any place where I get mentioned on the internet if there is a way for someone to show up and start dropping
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- URLs to attack me personally he will Muslims Roman Catholics, he doesn't care
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- He will he will assist the Muslims. He will assist Roman Catholics atheists.
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- He doesn't care It's just like the the streets creatures when they showed up in Salt Lake City. They don't care about them the
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- Mormons They don't have any love for the Mormon people and if by attacking me they drive the
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- Mormons farther with it. They don't care They don't care That's irrelevant to them. If he could get me bounced off of Twitter.
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- He will and And if that means that Muslims don't hear the gospel, he doesn't care the
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- Gospels irrelevant to these people This is a form of cultic mindset That is absolutely it's the term imbalanced is not even close enough.
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- It is a cultic way of thought We're not talking about believers here, but we're talking about wolves.
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- And by the way just in passing If you consider yourself a polemicist
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- And think you can buddy up and get chummy with someone like this to use them to dig dirt for you
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- You've just demonstrated where your discernment really is Wake up personal message there so Once I deleted these tweets
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- Then I could go back on to Twitter now, why why was
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- I Going to do this in the first place Well, I was sent a
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- Graphic that had been posted by this anonymous troll and I I'm almost left speechless as I contemplate and try to communicate
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- The emptiness of the life of a person who would engage in this type of activity
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- What you have on the screen or what we will have on the screen Nope, nope.
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- Nope. It's a big it's a big graphic. See there you go This is the graphic that was posted by the internet troll and What says is proof that James White is lying and that's always in capitals, which is for some reason
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- King James the cult of King James only us it's sort of like a Tick or something that you get when you become a cult of King James only as you start doing anything in capitals
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- Proof that James White is lying about his numbers Bodily exercise profit of little lying about it profiteth even less.
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- You know what you have here These are sections from Strava screens now
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- Strava is just This absolutely awesome cool wonderful Program website
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- Where You can track your riding you're running you're swimming a little bit less other things
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- But What's really neat about is you can compete against people, you know
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- Year and a half ago, for example, I found this segment you can you can mark segments out. It's all done on the basis of GPS It's amazing.
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- You know, we all have these primarily Garmin computers, but there are others too and they're all
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- GPS enabled and so you get done with the ride and I've posted a lot of these things on on on the web before and You can see exactly where you went and how far how fast ascent descent heart rate calories burned everything the only thing mine doesn't do is record is make reference to which books
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- I was listening to on my iPod and It's really cool and so You can compete with people without competing with people so you'll go searching for segments and so for example my brother
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- Gary and I from church He found this. What was it? 20 24 mile segment 32 kilometers something something like that.
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- I forget which one what it was. It was it was the New River Loop. I Had done it before and Had placed pretty well in my age group and stuff like that Well, he had found it said, you know
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- We could KOM that KOM means king of the mountain That means you have the fastest time on that segment and we went out and killed it
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- We did it. We did it by over a minute and Still have that KOM as if I recall correctly and so you can compete with people compete with people in your age group
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- It's really neat it really especially someone like me who You know, I don't want to ride in a group so much and I'm normally studying or something like that But hey, you know
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- I can go out I know where the segment is Turn the music on go for it and then go back listening to book and see if I made it when
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- I get back it's it's it's really cool and So I keep track of all my stuff and I'm a triathlete
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- Now north most people think triathlete is ride Run swim and that's the normal triathlons.
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- I don't like swimming so I'm ride run row a Concept to rower.
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- They are the standard. They're the industry standard all around the world I've rode in to you and Berlin and all over all over the place.
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- And so those are my three things Those are three things I do it helps keep balance, you know, if you're just riding
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- You know, you can end up with the t -rex look where you've gotten, you know Chest up is gone.
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- It's nothing there And I can end up creating imbalance in your back and you know, it's good to have some balance and stuff
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- So I ride run and row and rowing especially is a real full body full body workout so I Record almost all of that the running and the riding in Garmin because I use a
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- Garmin watch a Garmin Garmin 1000 cycling computer and Then that transfers automatically from Garmin over to Strava.
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- I have a third -party website that just transfers that stuff over and Then I have to manually enter in the rowing because so far concept to and Strava and those guys haven't gotten together
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- I really wish they would I Bet it could be done, but they haven't done it yet, but I have to manually enter that stuff in and so what
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- I do at the end of the week is I'll do a screenshot take the graphic and I'll post it on Twitter and a lot of fun
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- I don't know why you're just bragging over. So look folks. I've had two people That said
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- I've saved their lives Because they were challenged by seeing what
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- I did to start working out and save their lives And I've had dozens say that they are in much better shape today
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- Because I challenged them to get in shape So if you don't like my posting it just move on or stop following me,
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- I'm tired of that kind of stuff. I really am and So I posted this and So he takes that that's this this portion right up here and It puts it together with this monthly
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- Activity distance and then and then the top because you can see that the top part of the ride here
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- Big new river loop. This is the new river. This is 7th Street right here going down the Carefree Highway He puts these together into one graphic and what does he say?
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- For the month of March white records 268 .6 kilometers for the month
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- They're not gonna be able to read if that's small for the month of March white records 268 .6
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- kilometers for the month for the first week of March.
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- He records 345 K. Well, okay immediate problem there
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- He doesn't understand what he's talking about Strava weeks are
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- Monday through Sunday It's just the way it is so if the month starts in the middle of that week at the beginning that week and whatever
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- That's irrelevant. The week will still be the week That's a difference of 76 .4
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- kilometers that could not notice this could not account For the monthly total without including the last day of February, which of course it did which would be
- 41:16
- Monday We know that on Saturday white road 116 kilometers 72 miles Now look at the bar graph for Monday and look at the height of the graph for Saturday It's virtually the same and should be much lower
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- Furthermore February 29th was the Grand Fondo for the end of February white got a badge for this which means he had to ride 118 kilometers thus the
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- Monday bar should be higher than March 5th. Now what he doesn't understand is Grand Fondo is any part of February and How long you have to do for that month's
- 41:50
- Grand Fondo depends on what month it is It's longer during the summers shorter during the winter. So what he's saying is now
- 41:59
- Problem is this graphic has been squished These are supposed to be circles.
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- They're ellipses. I Think I have Yeah There's the real one and you notice that they are circles.
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- They're not ellipses But he is right here's here's Saturday's ride and there's just a only a skosh difference using that line
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- They're only a skosh of a difference between this and this So listen listen to what he says
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- Now here's here's I wish I had some some Conspiratorial music to play here
- 42:42
- Don't don't don't okay. All right. Yeah, then there you go White is either fudging his numbers or Isn't where he says he's been during these times
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- Because the numbers are calling him out now.
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- Oh Great Twitter says
- 43:09
- Kent Hovind is at it again Not even looking too much insanity too much
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- Insanity can't do it. Sorry now
- 43:23
- Point number one and and this this is what's amazing to me What kind of person has such an empty shallow vacuous non -existent existent
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- That you're doing this. I don't have time.
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- I mean on these rides. I was listening to Bart Ehrman I was listening to material on the
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- Islamic expansion. I got through the new book on the case for Jesus I'm studying for books for lectures for teaching for doing the dividing line.
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- I Don't I've got a family I've got a granddaughter two granddaughters.
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- I've got I've got things to do who has the time to be going into someone's rides and Accusing them of being
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- Someplace else. Is there some Jesuit priest riding around a bike someplace carrying my bike computer?
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- Seriously what kind of Stalker and this is this is this is being this is the definition of I don't have a life
- 44:44
- I'm gonna stalk somebody else so I can at least think I have a purpose for existence
- 44:53
- Jonathan Patience I'm getting there. I have a right to determine what I talk about.
- 44:59
- Okay. Thank you What kind of a life who would ever trust a word this guy has to say
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- Don't you look at what a person's life is about Why would anyone believe anything he has to say listen to anything that he has to say he hasn't demonstrated any
- 45:23
- Accomplishment in doing anything worthwhile point number two
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- I've heard people say and it probably came from this guy That actually I'm getting my
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- Jesuit training During this time. I'm not actually writing. These are all faked and The you know,
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- I don't know What I'm getting trained to do but the Jesuits are are training me during this.
- 45:51
- Is that what he's talking about? Isn't where he says he's been during these times or is he accusing me of immoral activity?
- 45:59
- That's a possibility, too That's a real possibility this guy he has like I said, there is no there is no bottom floor of this guy
- 46:07
- There is no gutter He will dive as deep as he wants. The numbers are calling him out
- 46:19
- Actually Strava called him out and demonstrated that he's not as smart as he thinks he is
- 46:27
- Because you see he forgot one little thing that's right in front of his face That middle graphic there with the but the orange monthly activity distance see out there.
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- That's cumulative That's grand total. That's not just riding That's running and rowing as well.
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- And if you'll look back above there's 16 kilometers of running added number five at five more before the week was out.
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- So it's 21 and 21 thousand meters or 21 kilometers of rowing when you add those in guess what it adds up to and you when you take the
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- Monday ride out If you take the Monday ride out where I I got and rich can verify this
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- You remember I got about six miles in I I just I got it into my head.
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- I'm going out To the White Tank Mountains, I've ridden around the outside of them
- 47:27
- But there's a park. I've lived in this valley for over 40 years. I've never been there
- 47:33
- Never been there So I said, you know what? I'm riding out there. So I started out on my training bike and About a thousand kilometers ago.
- 47:46
- I got a real good nick on that tire the tires ain't cheap Continental Grand Prix 4000 s 45 bucks per tire
- 47:57
- Now they're the best tires you can get get a lot of mileage out of them You want to you got to have good tires on the bike if you're gonna ride the kind of miles
- 48:07
- I ride I Decided to push it. You know, I got a thousand more kilometers out of it, but it blew on the
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- Canal Trail and I changed the change the tube
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- Got out my quick fills or co2 quick fills the quick fill head broken wouldn't work
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- Nothing I can do so I called rich and I was live tracking the ride so he can get online
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- There I am little little leap deep leap right south of a school.
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- That's right alongside the canal there and You had you left to come get me? I was just about to I was like Just about to leave the parking lot.
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- Okay good and He was coming to get me and an elderly fellow happened to ride by on his bike and I stopped and I said
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- Do you have quick fills just know but I got a pump And one of these little teeny pumps. All those things are a pain.
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- Uh, I mean you just have to sit Did Strava Measure that the
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- Strava measure what you pumping the tire up see that's work No Strava Yeah, I would give it time
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- Anyway, we got we managed to get 50 55 pounds in I normally run 110 so it's about half filled but it was enough to keep it from falling off the rim and not ruin the tire and So I called rich said
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- I'm I'll be able to get home. So I nursed at home. I had to be pretty careful and You know what?
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- I said I'm getting to that park And so I grabbed my better road bike my racing bike moved my bottles over to it got back on it went back out
- 49:49
- Well that gave me 11 miles on The first ride and then 60 miles out and back to the park so There's 71 miles.
- 49:59
- That's why these two lines are so close. That's 72 and that's 71. There is almost no difference between them but where he messed up is he forgot that I also ran 16 kilometers and Road 21 kilometers
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- ROWED and when you add that together and take out the first day Guess what?
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- It adds up to two sixty eight point six while Strava can do math. Dr. Ock can't adds up to the tenth the numbers called you out
- 50:33
- Not me. You just don't know what you're talking about and you normally don't so You might say
- 50:42
- You know what? This guy is not even worth your time. And as far as the fact he's never accomplished anything in life.
- 50:49
- You're right But there are people who listen to him. Like I said,
- 50:54
- I know of one polemicist who Snuggled up with a guy because he thinks he can dig dirt for him and that's really bad but let me show you why this is important and what the
- 51:09
- Why I well obviously One of the reasons I'm doing this is this man got my
- 51:14
- Twitter account suspended For daring to expose him.
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- I mean the the level of hypocrisy the vile things that you can find in his
- 51:25
- Twitter feed and Then to pretend to be offended by what I posted
- 51:32
- That my hypocrisy meter can't even measure it, I mean it's just it's just off the charts but Here's another of his graphics.
- 51:42
- Let's bring this one up Here's where here's where this becomes educational one of many of James White's inaccuracies
- 51:49
- We're still waiting for answers on on page 338 339 of King James only controversy white made the following claim about dr.
- 51:56
- Robertson It's a T Robertson, by the way And I'm just skipping over all the typos because obviously he struggles in those ways
- 52:03
- Why then do the AV the SV and a few other older versions incorrectly translate these passages Robertson maintains?
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- It is mainly due to the influence of George B. Weiner and his grammatical efforts For three generations his work was supreme and many scholars not feel inclined to fly in his face and insist on correct translation these passages
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- End quote George B. Weiner was born 1789 died 1858 Wondering how the AV translators of 1611 could have possibly been influenced by a man that wasn't born yet now
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- When someone looks at this Rational people read that and go well, obviously he's talking about whatever this mistranslation is
- 52:41
- He's talking about the ASU and a few other older versions incorrectly translate his passages the
- 52:47
- AV Mistranslates as well. Everybody knows what Robertson was talking about. No one who actually looked up Robertson would have this confusion this is
- 52:58
- The kind of argument that you make when you've got nothing better to do. You don't have any substance
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- It's just meant to make your thoughtless followers Think that you're really smart
- 53:12
- But see here's the problem What's he talking about here? What's what's under discussion in the quotation in my book?
- 53:22
- Well, if you take the time to take a look at it 338 339 that's right toward the end of the book, isn't it?
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- Yeah. Yeah it is and What is the discussion actually starting on?
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- Page 334 which is still going on at 338 and 339 It's called
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- Granville Sharpe's rule Granville Sharpe's rule And what is grant?
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- What am I talking about in that section? I'm talking about the correct and proper translation of 2nd
- 53:54
- Peter 1 1 and Titus 2 13 and If you're familiar with those texts
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- They're both about what? the deity of Christ Whether it should be properly translated our great
- 54:08
- God and Savior Jesus Christ Titus 2 13 or our God and Savior Jesus Christ in 2nd
- 54:14
- Peter 1 1 and What you have here and we've seen this before I've mentioned this before There are cultic
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- King James only advocates like this internet troll who will undermine the testimony of Scripture to the deity of Christ if it helps them maintain their idol and Their idol is
- 54:44
- King James only as they don't care about the deity of Christ. They don't care about the gospel
- 54:50
- They don't care about Christian truth. This is a cult and their idol which gives them power over others is
- 54:58
- King James only as and so rather than dealing with the importance of these texts
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- Dealing with the reality That there are key texts the deity of Christ that are missing in the
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- King James and Of course, you can't fault the King James translators for this The Granville Sharp material the
- 55:26
- Granville Sharp rule, it's actually not a rule there's there's a a group of rules that Granville Sharp Identified and Granville Sharp by the way was an
- 55:36
- English abolitionist and Greek grammarian. There's an interesting combination and When I was in Bible College I Did what
- 55:46
- I've described before as project I strain this was before computers before computer software could do this as one of my projects
- 55:57
- I examined every word Chi the word and in In Paul's writings and Peter's writings and identified every possible
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- Granville Sharp construction and The process through this ancient technology known as interlibrary loan.
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- I tracked down Granville Sharp's original work, which was published just before the turn of the century late 1700s and Realized that a lot of modern grammars did not accurately represent what
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- Granville Sharp actually said He did not just come up with a rule. He came up with a series of rules and I wrote a rather lengthy paper and until Dan Wallace's Thesis came out.
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- It was one of the longest papers on the Granville Sharp construction that was available electronically I eventually put on on the web once the web became available.
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- I wrote in the 1980s though anyway That's what this is about and instead of dealing with Granville Sharp instead of dealing with the deity of Christ instead of dealing with the fact that that any
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- Meaningful TR advocate or Byzantine priority advocate or whatever would be standing firmly with me instead and not even
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- Allowing the fact that I'm quoting Robertson to provide the context which answers the absurdity of this idiocy
- 57:19
- What you do is you help undermine the deity of Christ and The witness of Christian people to Jehovah's Witnesses Muslims and others why because you're a cultist and Your ultimate priority is your cultic idol
- 57:36
- King James only isn't that's why it's important. These people are destructive.
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- They need to be marked out. They need to be avoided not assisted Not cooperated with they need to be marked off for what they are as people who sow division as People who sow rumor and falsehood and deception
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- Not coddled and there you have the example of it
- 58:12
- There you have the example of now one last thing Obviously what
- 58:19
- I'm gonna need to do in the future is I'm going to need to start my own personal blog aside from the ministry blog and Put thought
- 58:32
- Into am I gonna post this on my personal stuff or on a men org and then just simply link on Twitter and Facebook to those articles
- 58:46
- Will that change the fact that someday We will be forced out of Social media.
- 58:53
- No, we will be But what's amazing here is the utter insane self -destructive hypocrisy of this internet troll because he is a vile violator of Twitter's rules
- 59:09
- It just never crossed my mind to report him Because see I'm an adult He ran off to big brother and said big brother go get him not seemingly realizing
- 59:20
- That once you allow big brother to do that to him big brother will do that to you Big brother is gonna get rid of all of us.
- 59:30
- It's gonna come after all of us. There's no question about it No question about it But what utter foolishness?
- 59:38
- To go do that kind of thing Get big brother to and you just know he's just so happy that I got my account suspended by Twitter and had to delete those tweets
- 59:51
- Because he knows in his heart of hearts That he has gotten away with a thousand times more than that Yeah, there's the
- 01:00:05
- There's the Jesuit priest on the bike except you're missing you're missing one thing there Well, I love that light on the front that's great man that must weigh about four pounds where's where's the
- 01:00:19
- Where's the GPS? Yeah, see That had to you got you got it
- 01:00:25
- If you're gonna make stuff up like that, you got it. You got to get all of it, right? You got to get all of it, right? There you go.
- 01:00:31
- All right, so Internet troll who used to go to the name Doc Ock Do right
- 01:00:38
- Christians, whatever it is mark him off disturber of the brethren wolf amongst the sheep mark him off Let God take care of him.
- 01:00:49
- Let God take care of him. He's a liar a deceiver and Has been exposed as such now speaking of lies and deception the young Messiah Movie is coming out.
- 01:01:08
- I'm not gonna get through all this then again. I might depending on how fast I read It'd be very easy for me to say to the audience.
- 01:01:17
- You know what we need to do. You know what you need to do You need to be Familiar with the
- 01:01:24
- Gnostic Gospels so you can recognize when people are drawing from them But I can simply post in a tweet go read the
- 01:01:34
- Gnostic Gospels. I could put on Facebook I could talk about here on the program. The fact the matter is most of you are very very busy
- 01:01:40
- There's a bunch of you sitting there you right now. We're running on a treadmill. You're riding on an exercise bike
- 01:01:45
- You're you're doing all sorts of stuff like that. Listen dividing line I know that a lot of people you do do it that way and that's great.
- 01:01:51
- That's how I listen to stuff, too so We're going to have story time with Uncle Jimmy or should it be
- 01:02:01
- Grandpa Jimmy? Story time with Grandpa Jimmy. I'm gonna read you the proteve
- 01:02:09
- Angelium of James Now the proteve Angelium of James is a
- 01:02:14
- Gnostic influenced second century Document that obviously has nothing to do with James at all unlike all four of the canonical
- 01:02:27
- Gospels which plainly were written in the first century and Which give plain and inarguable evidence of having been written in the area or at least be written by people who are familiar with the area around Jerusalem Galilee, so on and so forth.
- 01:02:41
- This gives none of that evidence. It is plainly second century Probably no earlier than 140
- 01:02:50
- Origin seems to know about it. So it had become, you know, I would give it a few decades
- 01:02:57
- It is tinged with Gnosticism as we will see in fact, I'm not sure we'll get to it but the birth of Jesus here
- 01:03:04
- I'm worried that it may end up in the young Messiah and they could have used Star Trek Technology to illustrate this as you'll see it's fascinating but Let's get to it.
- 01:03:18
- Shall we? The infancy gospel of James according the records the twelve tribes of Israel there was a very rich man named
- 01:03:25
- Joachim He always doubled the gifts He offered to the Lord and would say to himself One gift representing my prosperity will be for all the people and the other offered for forgiveness will be my sin offering to the
- 01:03:36
- Lord God now the great day of the Lord was approaching the people of Israel were offering their gifts and Rubel confronted
- 01:03:42
- Joachim and said you're not allowed to offer your gifts first because you haven't produced an Israelite child and Joachim became very upset and went to the book of the twelve tribes the people saying to himself
- 01:03:53
- I'm going to check the book of the twelve tribes of Israel to see whether I'm the only one in Israel that hasn't who hasn't produced a child and he searched the records and found that all the righteous people in Israel did indeed have children and he remembered the patriarch
- 01:04:06
- Abraham because in his last days the Lord God had given him a son Isaac and So he continued to be very upset and did not see his wife
- 01:04:14
- But banished himself to the wilderness and pitched his tent there and Joachim fasted 40 days and 40 nights
- 01:04:21
- He would say to himself. I will not go back for food or drink until the Lord my God visits me Prayer will be my food and drink
- 01:04:29
- Now his wife Anna was mourning and lamenting on two counts. I lament my widowhood and I lament my childlessness the great day of the
- 01:04:37
- Lord approached however and Juthine her slaves said to her how long are you going to humble yourself?
- 01:04:44
- Look, the great day of the Lord has arrived and you're not supposed to mourn rather Take this headband which the mistress of the workshop gave to me but which
- 01:04:52
- I'm not allowed to wear because I'm your slave because it bears a royal Insignia and Anna said get away from me.
- 01:04:57
- I won't take it. The Lord God has greatly shamed me maybe a trickster has given you this and you've come to make me share in your sin and Juthine the slave replied should
- 01:05:07
- I curse you just because you haven't paid any attention to me The Lord God has made your womb sterile.
- 01:05:12
- So you won't bear any children for Israel Anna to became very upset She took off her morning clothes washed her face and put on her wedding dress
- 01:05:20
- Then the middle of the afternoon she went down to her garden to take a walk She spied a laurel tree and sat under it after resting.
- 01:05:27
- She prayed to the Lord Oh God of my ancestors bless me and hear my prayer just as you blessed our mother
- 01:05:32
- Sarah and gave her a son Isaac and Anna looked up toward the sky and saw a nest of sparrows in the laurel tree and Immediately Anna began to lament saying to herself poor me who gave birth to me
- 01:05:44
- What sort of womb bore me for I was born under a curse in the eyes the people of Israel and I've been reviled and mocked
- 01:05:51
- And banished in the temple of the Lord my God Poor me. What am I like? I am NOT like the birds the sky because even the birds the sky reproduce in your presence
- 01:05:59
- So Lord poor me. What am I like? I am NOT like the domestic animals because even the domestic animals bear young in your presence.
- 01:06:06
- So Lord poor me What am I like? I am NOT like the wild animals the earth because even the animals the earth reproduce in your presence
- 01:06:11
- So Lord poor me. What am I like? I am NOT like these waters because even these waters are productive in your presence.
- 01:06:17
- So Lord poor me what am I like? I am not like this earth, because even the earth produces its crops in season and blesses you,
- 01:06:24
- O Lord.' Suddenly a messenger of the Lord appeared to her and said, ëAnna, Anna, the Lord God has heard your prayer.
- 01:06:31
- You will conceive and give birth and your child will be talked about all over the world .í And Anna said, ëAs the
- 01:06:36
- Lord God lives, whether I give birth to a boy or a girl, are offered as a gift to the Lord my God, and it will serve
- 01:06:42
- Him its whole life .í And right then two messengers reported to her, ëLook, your husband
- 01:06:47
- Joachim is coming with his flocks .í You see a messenger of the Lord had come down to Joachim and said, ëJoachim,
- 01:06:53
- Joachim, the Lord God has heard your prayer. Get down from there. Look, your wife Anna is pregnant .í
- 01:06:59
- And Joachim went down right away and summoned his shepherds with these instructions, ëBring me ten lambs without spot or blemish, and the ten lambs will be for the
- 01:07:08
- Lord God. Also bring me twelve tender calves, and the twelve calves will be for the priests and council of elders.
- 01:07:14
- Also one hundred goats, and one hundred goats will be for the whole people .í And so Joachim came with his flocks while Anna stood at the gate.
- 01:07:20
- Then she spotted Joachim approaching with his flocks and rushed out and threw her arms around his neck. ëNow I know that the
- 01:07:26
- Lord God has blessed me greatly. This widow is no longer a widow, and I, once childless, am now pregnant .í
- 01:07:31
- And Joachim rested the first day at home. But on the next day as he was presenting his gifts, he thought to himself, ëIf the
- 01:07:37
- Lord God has really been merciful to me, the polished disc on the priestís headband will make it clear to me .í
- 01:07:44
- And so Joachim was presenting his gifts and paying attention to the priestís headband until he went up to the altar of the
- 01:07:51
- Lord. And he saw no sin in it. And Joachim said, ëNow I know that the Lord God has been merciful to me and has forgiven all my sins .í
- 01:07:58
- And he came back down from the temple the Lord acquitted and went back home. And so her pregnancy came to term, and the ninth month
- 01:08:06
- Anna gave birth. And she said to the midwife, ëIs it a boy or a girl ?í And her midwife said, ëA girl .í
- 01:08:12
- And Anna said, ëI have been greatly honored this day .í Then the midwife put the child to bed. When, however, the prescribed days were completed,
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- Anna cleansed herself of the flow of blood, and she offered her breast to the infant and gave her the name
- 01:08:25
- Mary. Day by day the infant grew stronger. When she was six months old, her mother put her on the ground to see if she could stand.
- 01:08:33
- She walked seven steps and went to her motherís arms. Then her mother picked her up and said, ëAs the
- 01:08:39
- Lord my God lives, you will never walk on this ground again until I take you to the temple of the
- 01:08:44
- Lord .í And so she turned her bedroom into a sanctuary and did not permit anything profane or unclean to pass the childís lips.
- 01:08:52
- She sent for the undefiled daughters of the Hebrews, and they kept her amused. Now the child had her first birthday, and Joachim gave a great banquet and invited the high priest, scholars, council of elders and all the people of Israel.
- 01:09:05
- Joachim presented the child to the priests, and they blessed her. God of our fathers, bless this child and give her a name which will be on the lips of future generations forever.
- 01:09:14
- And everyone said, ëSo be it. Amen .í He presented her to the high priests, and they blessed her. ëMost high
- 01:09:20
- God, look on this child and bless her with the ultimate blessing, one which cannot be surpassed .í Her mother then took her up to the sanctuary, the bedroom, and gave her breast to the child.
- 01:09:29
- And Anna composed a song for the Lord God. ëI will sing a sacred song to the Lord my God, because He has visited me and taken away the disgrace attributed to me by my enemies.
- 01:09:38
- The Lord my God has given me the fruit of righteousness, single yet manifold before Him .í
- 01:09:46
- Who will announce to the sons of Reubel that Anna has a child at her breast? Listen, listen, you twelve tribes of Israel, Anna has a child at her breast.
- 01:09:54
- Anna made her rest in the bedroom, the sanctuary, and then went out and began serving her guests. When the banquet was over, they left in good spirits and praised the
- 01:10:01
- God of Israel. Chapter 7, if youíre wondering where we are. Many months passed, but when the child reached two years of age,
- 01:10:09
- Joachim said, ëLetís take her up to the temple of the Lord so that we can keep the promise we made or else the Lord will be angry with us and our gift will be unacceptable .í
- 01:10:17
- And Anna said, ëLetís wait until she is three so she wonít miss her father or mother .í Joachim agreed, ëLetís wait .í
- 01:10:22
- When the child turned three years of age, Joachim said, ëLetís send for the undefiled Hebrew daughters. Let them each take a lamp and light it so the child wonít turn back and have her heart captivated by things outside the
- 01:10:33
- Lordís temple .í And this is what they did until the time they ascended to the Lordís temple. The priest welcomed her, kissed her and blessed her, ëThe
- 01:10:39
- Lord God has exalted your name among all generations and you the Lord will disclose His redemption to the people of Israel during the last days .í
- 01:10:46
- And he sat her down on the third step of the altar and the Lord showered favor on her and she danced and the whole house of Israel loved her.
- 01:10:53
- Chapter 8 Her parents left her home marveling and praising and glorifying the Lord God because the child did not look back at them.
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- And Mary lived in the temple of the Lord. She was fed there like a dove, receiving her food from the hand of a heavenly messenger.
- 01:11:08
- When she turned twelve, however, there was a meeting of the priests. ëLook ,í they said, ëMary has turned twelve in the temple of the Lord. What shall we do with her so she wonít pollute the sanctuary of the
- 01:11:16
- Lord our God ?í And they said to the high priest, ëYou stand at the altar of the Lord, enter and pray about her and weíll do whatever the
- 01:11:22
- Lord God discloses to you .í And so the high priest took the vestment with the twelve bells, entered the Holy of Holies and began to pray about her.
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- And suddenly a messenger of the Lord appeared, ëZechariah, Zechariah, go out and assemble the widowers of the people and have them each bring a staff.
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- She will become the wife of the one to whom the Lord God shows a sign .í And so the heralds covered the surrounding territory of Judea, the trumpet of the
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- Lord sounded, and all the widowers came running. Chapter 9, ëAnd
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- Joseph too threw down his carpenterís axe and left the meeting. When they had all gathered, they went to the high priest with their staffs.
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- After the high priest had collected everyoneís staff, he entered the temple and began to pray. When he had finished his prayer, he took the staffs and went out and began to give them back to each man.
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- But there was no sign on any of them. Joseph got the last staff. Suddenly a dove came out of this staff and perched on Josephís head.
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- ëJoseph, Joseph ,í the high priest said, ëyouíve been chosen by Lot to take the Virgin of the Lord into your care and protection .í
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- But Joseph objected, ëI already have sons and Iím an old man. Sheís only a young woman.
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- Iím afraid that Iíll become the butt of jokes among the people of Israel .í And the high priest responded, ëJoseph, fear the
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- Lord your God and remember what God did to Dathan, Abiram and Korah. The earth split open and they were all swallowed up because of their objection.
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- So now, Joseph, you ought to take heed so the same thing wonít happen to your family .í
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- So out of fear, Joseph took her into his care and protection. He said to her, ëMary, Iíve gotten you from the temple of the
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- Lord and now Iím leaving you at home. Iím going away to build houses, but Iíll come back to you. The Lord will protect you .í
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- Chapter 10. Meanwhile, there was a council of the priests who agreed, ëLetís make a veil for the temple of the
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- Lord .í And the high priest said, ëSummon the true virgins from the tribe of David .í So the temple assistants left and searched everywhere and found seven.
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- The high priest then remembered the girl Mary, that she too was from the tribe of David and was pure in Godís eyes. So the temple assistants went out and got her.
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- They took the maidens into the temple of the Lord. The high priest said, ëCast lots for me to decide who will spin which threads for the veil, the gold, the white, the linen, the silk, the violet, the scarlet and the true purple .í
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- The true purple and scarlet threads fell on Mary. She took them and returned home. Now was the time that Zechariah became mute and Samuel took his place until Zechariah regained his speech.
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- Meanwhile, Mary had taken up the scarlet thread and was spinning it. Chapter 11.
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- And she took her water jar and went out to fill it with water. Suddenly there was a voice saying to her greetings, favored one, ëThe
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- Lord is with you. Blessed are you among women .í Mary began looking around, both right and left, to see where the voice was coming from.
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- She became terrified and went home. After putting the water jar down and taking up the purple thread, she sat down in her chair and began to spin.
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- A heavenly messenger suddenly stood before her. ëDonít be afraid, Mary. You see, you have found favor in the sight of the Lord of all.
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- You will conceive by means of His word .í But as she listened, Mary was doubtful and said, ëIf
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- I actually conceive by the Lord, the living God, will I also give birth the way women usually do ?í
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- And the messenger of the Lord replied, ëNo, Mary, because the power of God will overshadow you. Therefore, the child to be born will be called
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- Holy, Son of the Most High, and you will name Him Jesus. The name means He will save His people from their sins .í
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- And Mary said, ëHere I am, the Lordís slave before Him. I pray that all youíve told me comes true .í
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- And she finished, Chapter 12, she finished spinning the purple and the scarlet thread and took her work up to the high priest.
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- The high priest accepted them and praised her and said, ëMary, the Lord God has extolled your name, and so you will be blessed by all the generations of the earth .í
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- Mary rejoiced and left to visit her relative, Elizabeth. She knocked at the door. Elizabeth heard her, tossed aside the scarlet thread, ran to the door and opened it for her.
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- And she blessed her and said, ëWho am I that the mother of my Lord should visit me? You see, the baby inside me has jumped for joy and blessed you .í
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- Stopping for a moment. Very clearly, this is dependent upon the preceding Gospels, the canonical Gospels, drawing from Matthew and Luke.
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- I continue. ëBut Mary forgot the mysteries which the heavenly messenger
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- Gabriel had spoken, and she looked up to the sky and said, ëWho am I, Lord, that every generation on earth will congratulate me ?í
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- She spent three months with Elizabeth. Day by day, her womb kept swelling, and so Mary became frightened, returning home and hid from the people of Israel.
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- She was just 16 years old when these mysterious things happened to her .í Chapter 13. She was in her sixth month when one day
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- Joseph came home from his building projects, entered his house and found her pregnant. He struck himself in the face, threw himself to the ground in sackcloth and began to cry bitterly, ëWhat sort of face should
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- I present to the Lord God? What prayer can I say on her behalf, since I received her as a virgin from the temple of the
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- Lord God and didnít protect her? Who has set this trap for me? Who has done this evil deed in my house?
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- Who has lured this virgin away from me and violated her? The story of Adam has been repeated in my case, hasnít it?
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- For just as Adam was praying when the serpent came and found Eve alone, deceived her and corrupted her, so the same thing has happened to me .í
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- Joseph got up from the sackcloth and summoned Mary and said to her, ëGod has taken a special interest in you. How could you have done this?
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- Have you forgotten the Lord your God? Why have you brought shame on me and you who were raised in the
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- Holy of Holies and fed by a heavenly messenger ?í She began to cry bitter tears, ëI am innocent. I havenít had sex with any man .í
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- Joseph said to her, ëThen where did the child youíre carrying come from ?í She replied, ëAs the
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- Lord God lives, I donít know where it came from .í Joseph became very frightened and no longer spoke with her.
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- As he pondered what he was going to do with her, Joseph said to himself, ëIíll try to cover up her sin.
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- Iíll end up going against the law of the Lord. And if I disclose her condition to the people of Israel, Iím afraid the child inside her might be heaven sent and Iíll end up handing innocent blood over to a death sentence.
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- So what should I do with her? I know, Iíll divorce her quietly .í But when night came, a messenger of the
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- Lord suddenly appeared to him in a dream and said, ëDonít be afraid of this girl, because the child in her is the
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- Holy Spiritís doing. She will have a son and you will name him Jesus. The name means he will save his people from their sins .í
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- And Joseph got up from his sleep and praised the God of Israel who had given this favor. And so he began to protect the girl.
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- Chapter 15. Then Anna the scholar came to him and said to him, ëJoseph, why havenít you attended our assembly ?í
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- And he replied to him, ëBecause
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- I was worn out from the trip and rested my first day home .í Then Annaís turn and saw that Mary was pregnant. He left in a hurry for the high priest and said to him, ëYou remember
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- Joseph, donít you, the man you yourself vouched for? Well, he has committed a serious offense .í And the high priest asked, ëIn what way ?í
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- ëJoseph has violated the virgin he received in the temple of the Lord .í He replied, ëHe had his way with her and hasnít disclosed his action to the people of Israel .í
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- And the high priest asked him, ëHas Joseph really done this ?í And he replied, ëSend temple assistants and youíll find the virgin pregnant .í
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- So the temple assistants went and found her just as Anna had reported, and then they brought her along with Joseph to the court.
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- ëMary, why have you done this ?í the high priest asked her. ëWhy have you humiliated yourself? Have you forgotten the
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- Lord your God, you who were raised in the Holy of Holies and were fed by heavenly messengers, you of all people who heard their hymns and danced for them?
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- Why have you done this ?í And she wept bitterly. ëAs the Lord God lives, I stand innocent before him. Believe me, I have not had sex with any man .í
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- And the high priest said, ëJoseph, why have you done this ?í And Joseph said, ëAs the Lord lives, I am innocent where she is concerned .í
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- And the high priest said, ëDonít perjure yourself, but tell the truth. Youíve had your way with her and havenít disclosed the action to the people of Israel.
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- And you havenít humbled yourself under Godís mighty hands, so that your offspring might be blessed .í But Joseph was silent.
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- Chapter 16. Then the high priest said, ëReturn the virgin you received in the temple to the Lord .í And Joseph bursting into tears.
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- And the high priest said, ëI am going to give you the Lordís drink test, and it will disclose your sin clearly to both of you .í
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- And the high priest took the water and made Joseph drink and sent him into the wilderness, but he returned unharmed. And he made the girl drink it, too, and sent her into the wilderness.
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- She also came back unharmed. And everybody was surprised because their sin had not been revealed. And so the high priest said, ëIf the
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- Lord God has not exposed your sin, then neither do I condemn you .í And he dismissed them. Joseph took
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- Mary and returned home celebrating and praising the Lord God of Israel. Chapter 17. Now onóthereís only 25 chapters.
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- Now an order came from the Emperor Augustus that everybody in Bethlehem of Judea be enrolled in the census.
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- And Joseph wondered, ëIíll enroll my sons, but what am I going to do with this girl? How will I enroll her as my wife?
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- Iím ashamed to do that. As my daughter, the people of Israel know sheís not my daughter. How this is to be decided depends on the
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- Lord .í And he saddled his donkey and had her get on it. His son led it, and Samuel brought up the rear. And they neared the three -mile marker.
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- As they neared the three -mile marker, Joseph turned around and saw that she was sulking. And he said to himself, ëPerhaps the baby she is carrying is causing her discomfort .í
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- Joseph turned around again and saw her laughing and said to her, ëMary, whatís going on with you? One minute I see you laughing, the next minute youíre sulking .í
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- And she replied, ëJoseph, itís because I imagine two peoples in front of me, one weeping and mourning and the other celebrating and jumping for joy .í
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- Halfway through the trip, Mary said to him, ëJoseph, help me down from the donkey. The child inside me is about to be born .í
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- And he helped her down and said to her, ëWhere will I take you, to give you some privacy, since this place is out in the open ?í
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- Chapter 18. Listen carefully now, this gets important. ëHe found a cave nearby and took her inside. He stationed his sons to guard her and went to look for a
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- Hebrew midwife in the country around Bethlehem .í ëNow I, Joseph, was walking along, and yet not going anywhere.
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- I looked up at the vault of the sky and saw it standing still. I looked at the clouds and saw them paused in amazement, and at the birds of the sky suspended in midair.
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- As I looked on the earth, I saw a bowl lying there and workers reclining around it with their hands in the bowl.
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- Some were chewing, and yet did not chew. Some were picking up something to eat, and yet did not pick it up. And some were putting food in their mouths, and yet did not do so.
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- Instead, they were all looking upward. I saw sheep being driven along, and yet the sheep stood still. The shepherd was lifting his hand to strike them, and yet his hand remained raised.
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- And I observed the current of the river and saw goats, their mouths in the water, and yet they were not drinking. Then all of a sudden everything and everybody went on with what they had been doing .í
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- Chapter 19. Then I saw a woman coming down from the hill country, and she asked, ìWhere are you going, sir ?î
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- I replied, ìI am looking for a Hebrew midwife .î She inquired, ìAre you an Israelite ?î I told her, ìYes .î And she said, ìAnd who is the one having a baby in the cave ?î
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- I replied, ìMy fiancée .î And she continued, ìShe isnít your wife ?î I said to her, ìShe is Mary, who is raised in the temple of the
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- Lord. I obtained her by law as my wife, but she is not really my wife. She is pregnant by the Holy Spirit .î The midwife said, ìReally ?î
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- Joseph responded, ìYes .î The midwife went with him. As they stood in front of the cave, a dark cloud overshadowed it.
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- The midwife said, ìI have really been privileged, because today my eyes have seen a miracle, and that salvation has come to Israel .î
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- Suddenly the cloud withdrew, and an intense light appeared inside the cave, so that their eyes could not bear to look.
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- A little later that light receded until an infant became visible. He took the breast of his mother,
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- Mary. Did you catch that? Thatís the
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- Star Trek part. Jesus was not born. He beamed out of Mary, literally.
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- You can see it. Thatís exactly whatís being said. Then the midwife shouted, ìWhat a great day this is for me, because Iíve seen this new miracle .î
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- And the midwife left the cave and met Salome, and said to her, ìSalome, Salome, let me tell you about a new marvel.
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- A virgin has given birth, and you know thatís impossible .î And Salome replied, ìAs Lord my God lives, unless I insert my finger and examine her,
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- I will never believe that a virgin has given birth .î Chapter 20. The midwife entered and said, ìMary, position yourself for an examination.
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- You are facing a serious test .î And so Mary, when she heard these instructions, positioned herself, and Salome inserted her finger into Mary.
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- And then Salome cried aloud and said, well, I donít like this translation, ìI will be destroyed because of my transgression and my disbelief.
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- I have put the living God on trial. Look, my hand is disappearing. Itís being consumed by flames .î
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- Then Salome fell on her knees in the presence of the Lord with these words, ìGod of my ancestors, remember me because Iím a descendant of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
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- Do not make an example for me for the people of Israel, but give me a place among the poor again. You yourself know,
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- Lord, that Iíve been healing people in your name and have been receiving my payment from you .î And suddenly a messenger of the Lord appeared, saying to her, ìSalome,
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- Salome, the Lord of all has heard your prayer. Hold out your hand to the child and pick him up, and then youíll have salvation and joy .î
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- Salome approached the child and picked him up with these words, ìIíll worship him because heís been born to be the king of Israel .î
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- And Salome was instantly healed and left the cave vindicated. Then a voice said abruptly, ìSalome, Salome, donít report the marvels youíve seen until the child goes to Jerusalem .î
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- So getting close here. Point is, you need to catch that.
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- What you just read becomes foundational to something that the
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- Roman church has now added as part of the gospel of Jesus Christ.
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- It does. And its origin, I just read to you.
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- Itís called the perpetual virginity of Mary. And in Roman Catholic theology, she remained a virgin after the birth of Jesus.
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- Her virginal integrity was kept intact, which means Jesus did not have a natural birth, which is exactly what this
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- Gnostic -tinged gospel said. He, wow, beamed out. Folks, if Jesus, wow, beamed out, thereís no gospel.
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- Thereís no redemption. Chapter 21, ìJust was about ready to depart for Judea, but a great uproar was about to take place in Bethlehem in Judea.
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- It all started when astrologers came inquiring, ìWhere is the newborn king of the Judeans? Weíre here because we saw his star in the east and have come to pay an homage .î
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- When Herod heard about their visit, he was terrified and sent agents to the astrologers. He also sent for the high priests and questioned them in his palace, ìWhat has been written about the anointed?
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- Where is he supposed to be born ?î They said to him, ìIn Bethlehem, Judea. Thatís what the scriptures say .î And he dismissed them. Then he questioned the astrologers, ìWhat sign have you seen regarding the one who has been born king ?î
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- The astrologers said, ìWe saw a star of exceptional brilliance in the sky, and it so dimmed the other stars that they disappeared. Consequently, we know that a king was born for Israel, and we have come to pay him homage .î
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- Herod instructed them, ìGo and begin your search, and if you find him, report back to me so I can go also and pay him homage .î
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- The astrologers departed, and there it was, the star they had seen in the east led them on until they came to the cave. Then the star stopped directly above the head of the child.
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- After the astrologers saw him and his mother Mary, they took gifts out of their pouches, gold, pure incense, and myrrh.
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- Since they had been advised by heavenly messengers not to go into Judea, they returned to their country by another route.
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- When Herod realized he had been duped by the astrologers, he flew into a rage and dispatched his executioners with instructions to kill all the infants two years old and younger.
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- When Mary heard about the infants were being killed, she was frightened and took her child, wrapped him in strips of cloth, and put him in a feeding trough used by cattle.
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- As for Elizabeth, when she heard that they were looking for John, she took him and went up into the hill country. She kept searching for a place to hide him, but there was none to be had.
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- Then she groaned and said out loud, ìMountain of God, please take in a mother and her child .î You see Elizabeth was unable to keep on climbing because her nerve failed her, but suddenly the mountain was split open and let them in.
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- The mountain allowed the light to shine through to her, since a messenger of the Lord was with them for protection. Herod, though, kept looking for John and sent his agents to Zacharias, serving at the altar with this message for him, ìWhere have you hidden your son ?î
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- Weíre going to go ahead and finish this up. It will only take a minute or two after time. But he answered them, ìI am a minister of God, attending to his temple.
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- How should I know where my son is ?î So the agents left and reported all this to Herod, who became angry and said, ìIs his son going to rule over Israel ?î
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- And he sent his agents back with this message for him, ìTell me the truth. Where is your son? Donít you know that I have your life and my power ?î
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- And the agents went and reported this message to him. Zacharias answered, ìI am a martyr for God. Take my life.
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- The Lord, though, will receive my spirit, because you are shedding innocent blood at the entrance to the temple of the Lord .î So at daybreak,
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- Zacharias was murdered, but the people of Israel did not know that he had been murdered. At the hour of formal greetings, the priests departed, but Zacharias did not meet and bless them as was customary.
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- And so the priests waited around for Zacharias to greet him with prayer and to praise the Most High God. But when he did not show up, they all became fearful.
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- One of them, however, summoned up his courage, entered the sanctuary, and saw dried blood next to the Lordís altar. And a voice said, ìZacharias has been murdered.
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- His blood will not be cleaned up until his avenger appears .î When he heard this utterance, he was afraid and went out and reported to the people that Zacharias had been murdered.
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- When all the tribes of the people heard this, they began to mourn, and they beat their breasts for three days and three nights.
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- After three days, however, the priests deliberated about whom they should appoint to the position of Zacharias. The lot fell to Simeon, ìThis man, you see, is the one who is informed by the
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- Holy Spirit that he would not be a martyr for God .î Simeon, however, was not a martyr for God, until he laid eyes on the anointed in the flesh. Now I, James, the one who wrote this account, at the time when an uproar arose in Jerusalem at the death of Herod.
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- I took myself off to the wilderness until the uproar in Jerusalem died down. There I praised the Lord God, who gave me the wisdom to write this account.
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- Grace will be with all those who fear the Lord. Amen. Birth of Mary, Revelation of James, peace to the writer and the reader.
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- The Protevangelium of James. Now, second century, it pretends to have been written even before the ministry of Jesus, but it obviously draws from and is based upon Matthew and Luke.
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- And what it says concerning the birth of Christ becomes the foundation centuries later, centuries later, because of the rise of monasticism, because of the rise of traditions that are unbiblical, becomes the foundation of what
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- Rome has now dogmatized in the perpetual virginity of Mary. And that same gospel has an influence upon the
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- Koran as well. So there it is. We'll talk a little more about it, but I wanted you to hear the whole thing and get a sense of the kind of material that is contained in these early writings.
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- And hopefully that will be of use to you. All right, we are out of time for the program today.
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- I appreciate your willingness to sit through some of the silliness, but hopefully the beginning and the end anyways was useful to you along the way.