Amazing Design of Animal's Eyes

Creation Fellowship Introduction and Upcoming Speakers

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Praise the Lord. Praise God. All right, well let's get started. So, Robin Don't forget to mute yourself. I'm Terry cameras all here with creation fellowship we're a group of friends found by our common agreement that the creation account as told in Genesis is a true depiction of how God created the earth and all life in just six days about 6000 years ago, we used to me and person at the creation of his Earth History Museum in Santee California but we took to this online platform in June of 2020 and haven't looked back.

God has blessed us with presentations by many people who love the Lord and have a message to share. You can now find links to most of our past presentations by typing in tiny URL com forward slash. See like creation F like fellowship and Santia spelled s a n t.

You can also email us at creation fellowship Santia gmail .com to get on our email list so you don't miss our upcoming speakers and we never spam. And you can see from the slides that are showing that we do have two more weeks of this season next week we'll have Brian Laura here to talk to us about the World Economic Forum and the week after that we'll have Pastor Tom Lee here to talk to us about repentance.

So, with that tonight though we are thrilled to have our friend back Bill Morgan, Bill is an engineer and an evangelist he also leads the creation science fellowship at Calvary Chapel West Grove. And you can find his website at fish don't walk .com.

And you can also look for his videos on Facebook he has a Bill Morgan channel but he's not the only one with the Bill Morgan channel. So make sure you look for him under the Bill Morgan science and God channel, and Bill's going to talk to us he's talked to us before about similar topics, his presentations are aimed for fifth graders and up.

And so anybody could should be able to understand just the fun facts that he presents tonight it's all about animal eyes you can see some of his other videos that have been that he's done with us in the past on one of our channels but he also appreciates.

So tonight, those of us who are here in zoom are going to participate and turn our microphones on from time to time to answer his questions and if you're watching on Facebook, you can answer, give your answers in the chat and if you have any questions for him put them in the chat as well.

All right, with that, Bill, go ahead.

God as Designer of Vision Systems

Okay, well, thank you for having me. I'm honored and humbled to be here. And before I share the screen I'll just tell you a little story I've been an engineer for about 39 years, and I drove someone to the airport today, and on the way back I love to drive without the radio on and daydream.

And I was just daydreaming about the lesson. And instead of a lesson it's more of a celebration, just a celebration of how great and awesome God is. And how worthy he is to be praised. And I had a little flashback of as an engineer.

In many ways, God is humble. I mean if any of us designed any of the eyes that we talked about. We're going to talk about tonight. We might be saying, hey, check this out, what do you think about the rat eye that I designed?

But God designs it, lays it out, and in a way is humble. But he doesn't want to share his glory either. Many, many years ago I worked at Long Beach Naval Shipyard. And in the carpentry room, I had a project to get rid of the big old fan and all the duct work.

And we put in little portable exhaust. It's like a 55 gallon drum that could go from piece of equipment to piece of equipment. It gathered the air better, it was cheaper, etc. It worked really well. I got a different job in Seal Beach, and they had the same problem.

And I said, oh, I did this in Long Beach, these little drums that go from piece of equipment to piece of equipment. And I had a supervisor that was a good guy. He says it won't work. And I said, no, it'll work, Joe.

I know it'll work. We've already done it. So we put it in. It worked good. And at a meeting, somebody said, wow, that's a nice little ventilation system in the carpenter room. And guess what Joe said?

Yeah, it was my idea. Wait a minute, Joe. Wait a minute. The point being, I never bragged about the design, but I sure didn't want someone else to take the credit for it. So let's give credit where credit is due.

Eyes are the result of God's greatness. It's not the result of time, nature, chance and mutation. Amen. All right. Amen. Okay. And I do love participation. I always tell people, if you get bored, ask a question of the speaker, you'll get a little bolt of adrenaline and it can keep your interest as well.

Okay, is my screen filled with the PowerPoint right now?

No, you have a go up to the top and hit slideshow. A little bit farther to the left, up, up, up, up, all the way to the top in that. Yeah, no, no, left, left, go to the other left. Right there, slideshow.

See, it says home, insert, draw, design, transitions, animation, slideshow.

Oh, it would also work down here, right?

I can't see down there. I can only see the top one.

Oh, okay. Okay, now can you see it?

Yeah.

Okay, great. There's my YouTube channel. Sadly, my websites have fallen way behind the times, but my YouTube channel, I've got a bunch of videos on it and debates. I've had many debates and you're welcome to take a look at those.

Tonight, we're going to talk about eyes. Vin Scully was a baseball announcer and he was famous for being quiet when it was a good time to be quiet. Maybe I might be quiet here. As you guys just look at God's creativity and genius and all the different eyes that he created.

That third one from the left on the top, that's an elephant eye, isn't it?

Yes.

That tiny little eye belongs to that big fat elephant.

Isn't that something? And he's looking right at you. But what a great creative God. We're not going to talk about every eye here, but we're going to cover a couple of these beautiful animals. And again, interaction is welcome.

Who would like to read this first? Terry, could you get a volunteer, please?

Yes, I would like to volunteer, Diane.

Romans 1 and the Evidence of Creation

Yeah, I'm here.

For his invisible attributes, his eternal power and divine nature have been clearly perceived ever since the creation of the world and the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.

Nobody has a good excuse to be an atheist. Obviously, just the eye alone. And that is Romans 1 verse 20. There is no good intellectual excuse to be an atheist. I do a lot of evangelizing. And there could be emotional reasons of pain and suffering and things like that.

But what has been made is a great foundation for our belief in God. And if an atheist is watching this, I'm glad you are. I welcome you, too. And I just hope you consider without any bias whether these are the result of design or chance.

Okay.

God does not make things. I stole this from somebody else, and I loved it. It got my attention. God makes systems. He doesn't make things. He makes systems. So what is a system? A set of working, a set of things working together as parts of a mechanism.

Now, there is the term irreducible complexity. I met Michael Behe. I love his stuff. He's a good guy. But irreducible complexity is way too intelligent for me. I like the word system, where many components work together or else the whole thing will not work.

Can we back up just a bit to the slide before with all of the I's? A would like to know which one was the animal on the bottom left. And I was going to guess a fly.

Yeah, that looks like.

I do not know. My dad would often say your guess is as good as mine. It might be a shrimp eye.

I would guess a dragonfly.

Okay.

Like I said, I didn't put all these together. I grabbed the whole thing off the Internet. But one thing I do know is that I is a design.

Well, it looks like a piece of fruit. Okay.

Okay.

All right. So God makes things and systems. I think systems is easier to understand. So what is vision? It's a system. Would you guys agree that vision is, for vision to work, you need more than one thing working?

You need many, many things working. Now, I'm going to simplify it immensely. There's probably a million things that are needed to work for vision. Just think, you need a muscular system, a nervous system.

But I'm going to only talk about, simplify it to four main parts. Four main parts to vision. There's the eye. And the eye collects data. I'm going to share with you something that I think is a lot of fun.

So your eyes collect data. But that's only the beginning of the process. After the data is collected, which is light, your rods and cones convert the data. Once again, I really love this stuff. Your rods and cones convert the data from light into an electrical signal.

So I'll go back real quick. The eye collects the data. Then your beautiful rods and cones amazingly convert light into an electrical signal. Where does that electrical signal go? It goes down your optic nerve, which is transporting the data.

So the data was collected, converted. Now it's transported. It goes to the brain, the visual cortex. And the data is interpreted. And this just blows me away. Everything that we see is a process, a system of light being converted into an electrical signal.

I would like to ask the audience if they have any comments on this so far.

I would like to comment on the fact that the last time you were here with us, you talked about the human eye and how it works. And people can find that presentation on one of our channels. That was amazing.

Is this work the same thing in animals as it does in people? Because you've got a people picture.

Very, very good. Everyone, everything that sees has to collect data, convert it, move it, and interpret it. It could be in different ways, but those four steps are required. Does that make sense?

Yes.

Okay.

And if one of those parts does not work, would you be able to see?

I don't know.

Nope. All four have to work. And you could say that none is more important than the other. You've got to collect it, interpret it, move it, and transform it. So once again, a quick review. Data is collected, converted, transported, and interpreted.

Okay?

And so that's a common denominator for all the beautiful animals we're going to talk about tonight. And Terry, could you volunteer an eager person to read this, please?

Yes, I would like to volunteer Rachel.

The hearing ear and the seeing eye, the Lord has made even both of them, Proverbs 20, 12.

Amen.

And he is worthy to be praised for making that.

Amen.

Okay.

Our schools spend a lot of money on teaching evolution. Now, could evolution make this? Very, very simple question that no evolutionist would ever give you an answer to. They will chuckle, they will run, they will mock, but they won't answer this.

Which one of these systems evolved first? The eye, the rods and cones, the optic nerve, or the brain? It's really nonsense to believe that mutations made an optic nerve. An optic nerve is about a tenth of an inch in diameter, yet has two million nerves running in it.

But suppose time, nature, and chance made the optic nerve. Is that any good for you to see?

No.

You need an eye. You need rods and cones. You need the brain. And you need about 900 ,000 other things that we're not even talking about. Evolution is all about step by step by step. If you have a system, you cannot get there step by step by step.

For it to be useful and functional, you need all the subsystems fully functional at once, which is the teaching of the Garden of Eden that God made everything instantly. Any comments on that?

I was thinking today about how sometimes you hear people say, Oh, our brains are wired such and such. And a lot of times people will say things like that without thinking about the fact that if they are wired, somebody had to wire them.

Wow.

I love that. I'm going to write that down.

Wow.

And if you ever read articles on the internet by secular, just do a search for the word design. They're constantly using the word, but they won't talk about a designer. So yeah, it is wired. The brain is just amazing.

The brain really, it's almost abused with all the information that our bodies are sending to the brain all day, that it interprets and sends signals for controlling our bodies. So God makes systems. The theory of evolution cannot make a system.

You cannot get here by a step by step system. And the eye is a system. And the cornea is a system. The tissue is a system. The cells are a system. The molecules, the atoms, these are all systems. Atheists like to strut as if they have answers.

Atheists cannot even explain how one atom formed. How do protons, electrons, and neutrons come together and make an atom? They can't explain one atom, yet they act as if they can explain the whole universe.

Any comments on that?

We had Dr. Jason Lyle talking about quantum particles, and it went way over my head. So I'm going to mute again.

Quantum particles? But the atom is a system. Protons, neutrons, electrons. How did they get together? It's a fair question, and I've researched it. They have no answer at all. Trivia time. Who wants to trivia question?

Let's do AlphaRat.

Yeah, I was going to say AlphaRat.

Okay.

And actually, I'm going to talk about rat eyes later, AlphaRat. Years ago, I read a book called King Rat by James Clavel. I don't know if you've ever heard of it. Okay, AlphaRat. What part of the eye allows light to enter?

Let's see. That would be the iris.

Or the lens?

The pupil.

The pupil?

The pupil.

Is that the iris and the lens?

The lens focuses it, the light. And your lens bends. If you look at an ant on the ground and then look at the moon, your precious lens and your eyes are bending to focus for you to see. Praise God. But this is just a little tidbit on the pupil.

This is the cuttlefish. He's got a wavy little pupil. Guess what animal this is? Their pupil looks like a happy face. It's a dolphin. There's a different pupil. A gecko. No deep science here. Just the creativity, the diversity of God and pupils.

And later in the lesson we'll talk more about pupils and their function.

Okay?

And if anybody has any comments or questions, please let us know what they are. And Terry?

Go ahead.

The gecko eyes, so the pupil's not round like our eyes?

Absolutely correct. All different shapes of pupils.

Okay.

Does anybody, does science have any explanation for those different shapes of pupils?

Yep.

That's going to be one of my fifth grade level lessons or slides in the future part of the lesson.

Okay.

I'll hold on.

Yeah, it's so exciting. All right. Volunteer, please.

Squid Eyes and Design for Different Environments

Joe, do you want to read that verse?

Oh, yeah. Okay.

Who?

Joe.

Okay.

No one is like you, Lord. You are great. And your name is mighty in power.

Amen.

To my attention. Many, many years ago, I was evangelizing at UC Irvine. And a story about Rocky Marciano came to light. Walter Martin, who was a Christian, the Bible Lancer man. He said, Rocky Marciano told him, if you want to be a boxer, you're going to get hit.

If you're going to be an evangelist, you're going to get hit. Any amens? But I was having a polite talk with someone at UCI, very educated, intelligent person. And they asked me the question, if God is the designer, why do squids have a more efficient eye than humans?

There is the squid eye. I basically said, I don't know anything about squid eyes. Is that true? And he said, yes. And I said, I can't even begin to answer your question. I've never heard it before. So I took a little punch there at UC Irvine.

Went home, did some research. And I think the answer is very easy. Why is the squid eye more efficient than the human eye?

I would say it's not. I would say it's more efficient for its environment. And ours are probably more efficient for our environment.

Well said. The squid lives where it's very, very dark. They need to absorb all the light that they can. If all of us in this meeting tonight had eyes like squids, if we looked at the sun or a bright light, we'd be blinded for maybe an hour or so.

We would have pain in our eyes because of it. So I didn't have the answer at the time. But thanks to his question, I think I have a good answer for that now. That God designed the squid eye for his dark environment.

He designed our eyes like ours. So be careful what you wish for. I hope none of you are wishing for eyes as efficient as a squid eye.

Amen?

So it's no fun to take a punch now and then, but it's fun to come up with the answers. Would anybody like to share and when they've taken a punch, when they've shared their faith? Anyone? All right, we'll move on.

The size of the squid eye is about the size of a basketball, about 11 inches. Gigantic, beautiful design. Look at that great creation, my gosh.

Is that an irregular-sized squid or is it a giant squid? Because 11-inch eye on a regular-sized squid would be really big.

I would be guessing if I said 100%, but I did read squid eyes can be 11 inches. So my assumption is that's the giant squid, but I am not saying that with complete authority. What would you think?

It's still a pretty big eye.

Okay.

Now, at my creation ministry, many times I'll get young people to share. Like I'll talk for a few minutes and then they will. So some of these, I want to give credit, were by young people who talked about different eyes and different animals.

And one young man who spoke to him was Cody, and he talked about the frog eye. And I've used some of his slides in this presentation tonight. God made the beasts of the earth after their kind and the cattle after their kind and everything that creeps on the ground after its kind.

And God saw that it was good. So that was his verse.

Okay.

And I love when the young people talk. They do a great job, makes them do public speaking and do research. So frog eyes are not only amazing eyes, their location is amazing. Their eyes sit on the tops and sides of their heads.

I will quiz the audience and ask them, why are they located there?

So they can be under the water hiding?

Did you see my next slide?

Very good.

No, actually, when I lived in California, I used to go walking on this trail and they had kind of like a swamp next to it. And every so often you could see a frog.

And he's looking at you, right? Now, I have a bar across my, can you guys see that bar? Is that distracting you or you can't see it?

What bar? Okay, good.

The mute bar, the stop video bar. Is there any way to hide that thing?

Not really. It's part of the Zoom.

Okay, I'll just keep moving around. So exactly, God knew what he was doing, where the frog would live and where to locate their eyes. Cody made these slides that if the eyes did not bulge, it would be like the frog on the left.

But God put the eyes where they can be comfortable and safe in the water and look around. I love this slide. The frog can almost see 360 degrees around them. See that frog on the right? Can his eyes see you if you're in this location?

Yes, he could. So you couldn't sneak up on that frog. His eyes give them the ability to see what's coming up from behind. Oh, I made these slides today. I love this slide.

It's gross.

I know, gross is cool though, isn't it? Well, frogs, in order to catch wet, slimy animals, God gave them special spit. Very, very sticky spit. Makes sense, right? Otherwise, that other animal would slide right off.

Okay.

So here's a question for the group. The frog uses that sticky spit to catch the prey. But now that sticky spit might be hard to swallow the prey. How did God assist the frog in swallowing things when it's got sticky spit on it?

I think it's like the woodpecker because that's the same thing. And he also put into their saliva something to dissolve the stickiness so that it doesn't stick in their throat.

It does dissolve, but God gave them another benefit on swallowing sticky stuff.

Anyone else?

I have a pet frog. I've seen, when I feed the frog, the frog uses, like, pulls her eyes down, like, pulls her eyes down. And I read that it assists frogs with swallowing.

Absolutely. You get ten creation points. The frog uses their eyes to help them swallow. Can you believe it?

What?

That's really gross. Yeah.

Can you say, praise the Lord?

Can I say, oh, my gosh, that's icky?

Praise the Lord. That's really gross.

No, it is. But I think it's fantastic. Those eyes can descend into its mouth and push it down its throat. I would love to hear more comments about how awesome this is. Anybody like to share?

I'm going to have a nightmare.

Is that what you were looking for?

That is really disturbing.

What's so cool is just, God, before you design something, you have to think about it. So our creator, God, said, hmm, I'm going to make frogs. They're going to live where it's wet and sticky. I'll speak a new existence, sticky spit.

Well, how are they going to swallow it? Oh, I'll give them eyes that can push it along. What a wonderful God. Any comments?

Yeah, my comment is that the eyes are looking in two different directions.

Mm-hmm.

Well, it's funny because I often, when I see strange creatures, I think when I get to heaven, I'm going to ask God, what was he thinking?

I always say that, too. Angela, you were making a comment?

Yeah, I was just going to be sexist here and say that's more proof God is a father and not a goddess mother because no woman would design that.

That is gross.

That's funny.

That's funny.

And Carolyn, I missed what you said.

Oh, the eyes are looking in two different directions inside the mouth.

Oh, they are. But I don't think he's looking. I don't think he's looking at anything. I think he's just using it like a scraper. Isn't he using his eyes just like something to force that down his throat?

Push that delicious meal into its tummy.

Well, does he close the ends of the eyes?

One of my strengths is my humility. I would be guessing, but I would guess. They have a lictating membrane like a mask that would cover the eye and protect it.

Like a falcon?

Or a dog, even.

Yes.

Oh, I was thinking falcons. Spock has an inner eyelid.

Oh, Spock?

Okay.

All right. Anyone else want to talk about the beautiful design?

No, the next picture looks better.

Do all the frogs have that feature?

I would be guessing. I do not know. But I know a lot of them do because it's all over the Internet. And you guys can see beautiful videos of it on YouTube tonight. So look at that beautiful, what a beautiful color scheme.

You know, when I was in high school, I could not match colors, but God sure can. Can he not? So frogs can see color at night. They have very, very beautifully designed eyes. Even though it's pitch black, they have the ability to see color.

Wait.

Color is, there really is no color. It's refracted. So they would be seeing light refracted to get the color. How is that possible? I mean, when we see color, it's our eyes or possibly rain refracting the light, and that's what causes the color.

How would this frog see color at night when there is no light?

Somehow we can receive the wavelengths from the source. And anything beyond that, you'd have to ask Cody, the kid who made these slides.

Okay. I'm going to do my research. I didn't mean to try to stump you or anything.

Oh, no.

I mean, if they can see color at night, that is pretty cool. And that's the kind of design that, you know, you could make virtual reality out of, you know. Anyways, I'm going to mute.

You know what?

Maybe in the future, people will be able to make glasses where we can see beautiful color at night instead of just the infrared we can see now.

Yeah, that would be awesome.

I would say it has to do with wavelengths in some way.

All right.

Who would like to read this first?

Volunteer?

Terry?

Could you force someone to volunteer, please?

I volunteer. A.

Thanks to the Lord, for he is good. For his steadfast love endures forever. Psalm 107.

He is good. Now, the next person who spoke, her name was Evelyn. Very nice young lady.

Okay.

We will take guesses from the audience. Guess which animal has the most complex vision on planet Earth.

Go.

Fly.

B.

B is a good answer. But I'm going to say reptiles.

Anyone else?

I was running with fly, too.

This is Rob from Victoria, Canada, saying hello. We have a lot of bald eagles around here, so I'll say eagle type of thing.

We are going to talk about bald eagles in a couple minutes. And welcome, Rob. Well, I'm going to do it by my Excel spreadsheet that I made one hour ago. Because on my daydreaming, I said, hey, this would be fun to have.

Humans have three photoreceptors. We can see our photoreceptors have red, blue, and green. Dogs, which I feel is God's greatest creation, have two. Green and blue. So, ha! We're better than the dogs. Birds have four photoreceptors.

Red, green, blue, and ultraviolet. Drumroll, please. Mantis shrimp has six. A shrimp. And websites have said they have the most complex vision of anything. A shrimp. Here is a chart on all the capabilities, the wavelengths for shrimp vision.

That kind of gives new meaning to the word seafood.

Oh, whoo! That's good. That's very good.

There's no rim shot, but that would have been good for the rim shot.

And, you know, I'm glad they do. But isn't it fascinating that people get funded to study how shrimps can see? It's really kind of mind-boggling. I mean, yeah, this is great.

With our tax dollar. Yes, this is our tax dollar at work.

But a lot of the designs by God, people are able to implement. And we're going to talk about that in the future in a little bit. Look at that. Now, over millions and millions of years, chance and mutation and natural selection and environmental pressures not only made that beautiful organism, chance gave them eyes to do this.

Years ago, I did a mock debate as an evolutionist. I was the evolutionist. And I still remember I felt so dirty that I would just, you know, everybody knew I was a creationist, but I just felt like such a liar and a deceiver and not sharing the truth.

Can you guys relate to that?

Yes.

That every atom is a beautiful design. There's that beautiful animal. And think of its brain. Its brain has to process all the information from those eyes. I've heard it's easy sometimes to collect data.

But then you got to process all that data.

Amen.

Who would like to read this verse?

Volunteer.

I volunteer, Tricia.

He is able to do far more abundantly beyond all that we ask or think according to the power that works within us. Ephesians chapter 3 verse 20.

That is a great verse for everyone who's going through a trial.

Amen.

Ephesians 320. Next up was my son.

Bald Eagles, Predators, and Prey

Daniel.

That's your son. Does he look.

Yeah.

He used to do a lot of boxing and he wasn't very good at it. That's how he looks right now. He couldn't take a punch. Now my friend from Canada. Guess what my son talked about? Which animal?

Boy, that's a tough one. I really have no idea what that thing is.

No, no.

This isn't the animal.

Believe me.

Oh, okay.

I called on you for a reason.

Oh, yeah.

Well, the eagle, then, I guess.

Yes.