Do Pastors Who Mandated Medical Experiments Owe Reparations?

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and then you know what's amazing is right now they're posturing themself in such a way as that they were just doing the best they could right they're going to the state of science man you can't doubt the speed of science but the problem though the problem though is to say yeah if you were just doing the best you could you could have given everyone freedom to go to church you could have given everyone freedom to keep on meeting if they want to if you're doing the best you could you could have taken a posture of neutrality warning the following message may be offensive to some audiences these audiences may include but are not limited to professing

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Harrison Kerrig and Pastor Tim Mullett and today we'll be seeking to answer the age -old question do pastors who mandated medical experiments owe reparations?

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now I don't know if you saw in the news last week but the European Parliament called executives from Pfizer to come and give testimony about the jab that they had been selling, that they had been producing that they had claimed that they tested and so really we're doing this episode because there was a massive emphasis,

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Tim on not only doctors but politicians, actors pastors even, anyone with any sort of influence over the culture they were all encouraging people to take the jab as a response to COVID -19 yeah

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I mean over and over again we had famous evangelical pastors who were basically telling us love the neighbor, get the jab, quote unquote jab although they didn't call it that they were putting it forward as if it were a matter of loving neighbor, it was a commandment of God even almost as if people were in sin science deniers, ignorant conspiracy theories they pulled out every single conceivable argument that they could use basically to shame us into getting this experimental drug to become test subjects for this drug that we're talking about and companies like Pfizer they were claiming that what they had produced was 100 % effective effective and safe,

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I mean it's amazing how they changed that over the course of at first it was like this would be effective it would be effective in stopping the spread of COVID and then over time it went from it's going to be effective to stopping it to you need to get the jab or else you're going to essentially be a victim of the virus but then over time it's like well get it, it's going to reduce the symptoms right, yeah get it, at first get it, it'll keep you from getting it and then get it, it's going to lower your chances of getting it and then finally get it, it's going to make it easier once you do get it it's hard to keep up because they changed it so much it's hard to even remember all of the different stops they made along the way it was very unconventional form of this kind of drug right, right now like I said, the

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European Parliament they called executives from Pfizer to come and give testimony about what they had produced and so I just want to show you some of this real quick so the first thing

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I want to show you just so we're all clear Pfizer did say that this was going to be effective at stopping

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COVID -19 and it would be safe so what

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I'm showing you right now is a statement from Pfizer themselves it says Pfizer and BioNTech confirm high efficacy and no serious safety concerns through up to six months following second dose and updated top line analysis of landmark

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COVID -19 vaccine study and then here I think I have another tweet from Albert Boria it's basically saying the same thing excited to share that updated analysis from our phase three study with BioNTech also showed that our

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COVID -19 vaccine was 100 % effective in preventing cases in South America I mean in South Africa 100 % that's what he says it's amazing, it's a miracle it's 100 % effective and they're saying it's safe and whatnot so like I said they call

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Pfizer executives to come and give testimony about their testing procedures and whatnot and so the

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CEO Albert Borla that's who

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I just read that tweet from the CEO of Pfizer he's called to come and give testimony but he doesn't come and instead he sends

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Janine Small president of international markets for Pfizer and instead and the article here it just summarizes what the video shows and we'll probably link to the video but the article says this

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Rob Roos, a member of parliament from the Netherlands asked Small was the

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Pfizer COVID vaccine tested on stopping the transmission of the virus before it entered the market if not please say it clearly if yes are you willing to share the data with the committee

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Small answered regarding the question around did we know about stopping immunization before it entered the market no she continued we had to really move at the speed of science to really understand what is taking place what's taking place in the market and from you can't make that up man and from that point of view we had to do everything at risk so basically long story short there

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I'm still hung up on the speed of science it's the speed of science you can't argue with the speed of science you gotta give her points there because you can't argue with the speed of science

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I mean that's just I know you don't get it Tim because that's a technical term but what's funny is it's like the science speaking is constantly expanding it used to be that science was the process that you would engage upon to test certain hypothesis and now all of a sudden you have science giving us not only conclusions but also moral imperatives that come to us apparently at the speed of at a remarkable speed at this point so I think the interesting thing in all this just before we move on into sort of actually discussing about this a little more in depth is what's really stood out to me is it really does pay off to be a conspiracy theorist in 2022 right?

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I mean what's the joke? the best part of being a conspiracy theorist is you don't get myocarditis yeah

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I mean it's true don't get myocarditis you're still alive too so it's good to be alive and not to just suddenly drop dead in the middle of a soccer match right so like I said at the beginning you had a lot of people pushing this pushing the jab right?

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and then as time progresses the claims made about it are slowly sort of walked back and you're kind of expected to not notice right?

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or at least you're expected to not say anything about it so so there were a lot of people who were basically saying hey this is that's weird you know it y 'all said 100 % effective and now all of a sudden

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I've gotta I've gotta get a booster you know every 6 months it might not be 6 months but I've gotta regularly get a booster

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I don't even think that's how this works normally you know so what's going on here but what we really want to focus in on today is not even the politicians you know it's not the actors it's nothing like that it's pastors were pushing this as like you said basically like a new commandment from God you know a new commandment

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I give you right get jabbed get jabbed for your neighbor for thy neighbor take the poison you know yeah and become a medical test experiment yeah become a lab rat if you wanna love other people they were pushing this as a legitimate command and if you don't follow it then you know

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I I almost I almost said they might they might church discipline you but then

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I was like well I doubt they do that at all but maybe for this they would maybe they take this seriously it was amazing yeah

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I mean like in one way or the other you had a bunch of pastors who were essentially making this case that love for neighbor demanded that you become a medical test subject and that you know like the worst people imaginable the worst people imaginable were the you know conspiratorial minded people who you know thought that this they smelled a rat essentially so so not only you know does love for neighbor and you know protecting your love does does no harm for your neighbor right so you must get this you must become a medical test experiment for them but then also right like like beyond that like beyond just doing it you know if you don't trust the science you know the settled science which quote unquote quote unquote yeah because you know you have you have tests that are done that you have to interpret in certain ways and it's not like some sort of it's not as if there is some voice out there called science who has decided what all the information means and what we're morally to do with it but you must trust you know basically the left's agenda and if you don't you're some conspiracy conspiracy theorist right you know with your tin foil hat you know crazy ignorant

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Trump voter or something like that kind of person like the worst degenerate possible and I mean during that time you had all the articles on you know misinformation and anyone who uses that word

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I just almost have zero respect for you if you're going to use that word I hate that word but you know you're like you know conspiracy theories are so bad and misinformation is so bad and you know the problem is it's just like hey you know sometimes there are actually conspiracies yeah yeah right but then even that you know you have like guys like Piper even who are writing an article saying that you know don't feel pressured into not getting the jab if you want to get it you know as if that was even a problem you know right so in every way possible like they're trying to cover their bases to you better do this and you don't you know any pressure you get to not do this is totally morally wrong and you don't have to bow down to it even though the pressure is all going the other way and so much so that you know like if you don't do this you know you have people losing their jobs there's no sympathy shown to any of those people who are losing their jobs you know who are getting fired out of the military or whatever it is there's no sympathy that these pastors let them high and dry right yeah fend for themselves and you didn't have all the

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ERLC people you know advocating for them on their behalf like there's just like it was just a massive concerted effort on the part of many big name pastors essentially to you know in every way they possibly can tell you that if you don't do this you are morally wrong a fool you know giving in to peer pressure and the and the pagans are right to force you to do it you know yeah and you know

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I guess the I feel like I say I feel I it seems like the the one of the most concerning parts about all this is the fact that you really aren't even allowed to question it along the way right you just need to you just need to trust the experts you just need to trust the experts and you're supposed to I mean literally just deny everything that you see right so when they keep when they keep walking back you know what the jab was actually going to help accomplish you're supposed to ignore all that and you know

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I think for a lot of people it's not it's it's one thing it's one thing if if there's just disagreements on how effective it is cause

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I can I can almost see that as being understandable like hey you know get it if you get it if you're really okay with with risking yourself that way with risking whatever side effects it has but at least we can all admit this is not the normal way this is not the normal process for something like this but you weren't even allowed to do that right and and that's the concerning part is you just can't even question it you cannot even say

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I saw I saw no one who was who was pushing for the jab who came out who was coming along and saying hey

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I know this is different than normal I know this is not how these things normally get approved and you know so like so like let me free your conscience to do whatever it is that you think that you need to do for you and your family you know

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I really didn't even see that it was just get it don't question it get it and so I guess that that leads me a bit into my

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I guess the first question which is just why is it that so many pastors jumped on this train so quickly with no hesitancy given to like the extremely unorthodox way in which companies were going about producing you know these basically experiments yeah

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I think there's a lot of there's a lot of answers that could be given I'm sure that you know behind the scenes there's some sort of financial incentives that are involved in this kind of thing that maybe we'll never be aware of but I'm sure that that could be part of it

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I'm sure that that could be like some pressure on the outside donors and big powerful people and all that sort of thing so I I don't

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I can't verify that but that could be true you know I don't know so that's part of it you know often you know psychologically speaking you know guilty people are easily manipulated and so you know in the judgment the bible says that individuals would be put to fly to the sound of a leaf like the

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Israelites would be put to fly to the sound of a leaf they'll flee when no one's pursuing them so the more that people are weighed down by guilt and shame and iniquity they're easily manipulated because they have like a guilty conscience and they're afraid it's going to come out and you know they're with people who hold the levers of power so to speak they have dirt on you they can push you any which way they want and so I think some of it could be that so there could be like the financial things happening behind the scenes there could be the guilty people are easily cowed

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I think you know the bible also talks about like guilt and that you know people are held captive by the fear of death so unbelievers are held captive by the fear of death in general and you know when

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I was looking at I think part of the thing for me when I'm looking at the subject of this becoming an experimental test subject for a problem that had like a .01

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percent death rate like even before I knew the statistics and that those even are

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I mean there's like .001 it's not even that I mean this was all the exaggerated statistics possible who knows what it really is but I'm just looking around my eyes and I'm saying

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I can't see anyone dying of this thing like it's just whatever this is it's not that kind of thing but then if you don't have any courage you know

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I think a lot of our pastors are effeminate and weak and lacking in courage and lacking in fortitude and they just don't know how to navigate those kind of situations you know what

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I'm saying yeah like if you don't have courage then you look at something and you you don't have any category for doing something that's hard you take the easy route right yeah and then if you're held captive by the fear of death you know it could be that they're paranoid and they're like they're afraid and they're latching onto this

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I think many people latched onto this jab because they were so afraid right of and so destabilized and when

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God is going to judge a society he senses terror and dread upon a society and so a lot of this has to do with just you know like being so characterized by the fear of man and so desperate for the approval of the world and part of it's related to just the idea that they think if they can get the world to love them and be like think that they're the nice guys that maybe they're going to be the last one sewn into the lion's den so to speak you know but it's just like they're so crave the approval of people you know they want to get on those spots on CNN and they don't want to be the ignorant stupid

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Trump voter who you know is just like the constant joke of the people on the left that they want to they think somehow that they're going to salvage their witness or their relationship by the world with basically showing themselves to be reasonable people and so I mean there's a lot of things like that but those are some of the things that I think come to forefront in my mind yeah and they do this under the guise of they or they justify it you know with by saying things like hey you know we're trying to protect our witness right or we're trying to do we're trying to love our neighbor as ourselves right our neighbor would our neighbors want us to our neighbors they want us to get the jab so we need to get the jab right that's kind of how they they that's how they justify it but then yeah

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I think you're right especially especially in the you know I think there are a lot of pastors out there who probably are fearful of man right because because I mean partly because I think

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I don't want to say that that's understandable because I don't think that's understandable but I understand it's not easy right to be hated you get what

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I mean like I don't want to minimize how hard that that is but then when you have

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Christ right well so you know part of it is part of that is that like you know it's a small matter what the world thinks of me right and it just you know

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I think so I'm talking about levers from the outside financial levers from the outside but then when you're in I think when you're in more liberal areas and you have people like there is this concern that like people getting mad at you might be the people in your church too you know and it may be that there's a lot of like that that was the motivation for a lot of them is there they bought into this plan like their entire ministry is built on this plan to try to keep the people happy right yeah instead of to be faithful and so when your entire you know enterprise and all of your people's livelihood are centered around telling people what they want to hear and you realize that you're in a volatile time to where you know you're going to have to take a stand on a divisive kind of issue right and you you could lose half your people you know if you do that you know i think for for the kind of pastor who's like a bivocational pastor or something like that their livelihood doesn't depend on like i mean i am my livelihood doesn't depend on now i mean at the time it did but i mean right now it doesn't depend on that so for me it's just like well whatever you're right if you want to go go you know like but i mean i was like that before but i mean like for the person who's like not only their jobs but everyone else's job is dependent on keeping a group of people happy half of whom are absolutely terrified that that you know everyone's gonna die yeah because they've been worked into a frenzy then you know i think you have the kind of pastors who have bought into this mentality that like the most loving thing to do is to basically give the most unstable people in your congregation the most control the most control and the rights to manipulate everyone else because you're trying to keep the keep the ship going you know right and but i mean it's just not the way it works like you what you want to do is you want to do what's true you're not just pulling the audience and trying to figure out how to keep everyone happy and so that was just like this just a test case scenario to say hey like you know here you are and i think they bought into this line at the very beginning that somehow like like keeping everyone safe is the most pressing concern the most pressing concern because they didn't want to be the ones who were meeting at church when it was risky and if someone something went bad when it happened they would be blamed for it so in the name of doing that then they ended up swallowing like a greater evil unleashing a greater evil upon everyone else right now we so we've talked about some of the possible motivations and I do want to at least give a little bit of a caveat to say you know not all of these applications apply you know to every single person right so it could be a for each individual that was really pushing this it could be any mixture or any combination of these reasons or maybe even some other ones that we just didn't list out here right so this it's not necessarily meant to be like a every single one of these guys was doing every single one of these things and we know that for a fact right but I think there is some wisdom to say you know like okay but we

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I mean we've had we have plenty of evidence we've seen how a lot of these pastors you know speak on these issues and other issues and so these are just sort of the general sort of reasons why they were pushing this so hard but then

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I guess the question then becomes okay so they were pushing it this hard they were pushing it this hard they were basically making it

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I mean they were basically making a new command you just I don't see how you can get around that they were making a new command they were taking a specific command love your neighbor as yourself and they were hijacking it to mean like something applying it a very specific way right that the only you know way to do that is they've decided to trust the medical experts and you can't question them on this you can't say hey look

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I don't know that that's how this command is supposed to be applied right now you know so they've done all that and there's obvious there's been you know over the course of time they let me let me say this too so over the course of time they've walked it back they've walked back the vaccine stuff none of these none of these pastors have have even said okay hey all right at first I was on board but it's clear that they're not you know treat it it's clear that this isn't they're not delivering on their promise right right so that I haven't even seen that which is which is really really bad so with all that in mind with all of these negative outcomes that are coming from the jab

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I mean do do pastors that were pushing this all along the way even now are they are they should they be held responsible do they owe reparations to the people in their congregation that took it and are now experiencing negative side effects or you know even dying from it yeah

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I mean I think that they do I think that I think that's the difficult thing about it that you know on the one hand when it was happening and when they're advocating these kinds of things you know they're basically doing so in a very tyrannical way they they tried every you know every means they possibly can to not only tell you that loving for name love your neighbor demands this but you know basically mock and ridicule anyone who disagrees and I mean it was it was relentless it was a relentless campaign that many of these guys engaged upon together selectively to basically shame the church into taking these things and I mean you have plenty of people with eyes at that point in time who are just saying hey it doesn't add up and like this is a new technology it's experimental right mRNA technology new technology we have no test case we're trying to you know ram a you know a a forced a jab a procedure in an unprecedented way on the entire world yeah for something that has not been tested and so you have plenty of people who just something that is so minimal with constantly changing goalposts so you have those like all that all that's happening and then at the same time you have just a smear campaign on the one side to to take anyone who has reasonable objections and just turn them into like conspiracy theory minded crazy lunatics right who are discredited who are in sin and and so you have all that to something and then you know what's amazing is right now they're posturing themselves in such a way as that they were just doing the best they could right they're going at the speed of science man you can't doubt the speed of science but the problem though the problem though is to say like yeah okay if you were just doing the best you could you could have given everyone freedom to go to church you could have given everyone freedom to like keep on meeting if they want to if you're doing the best you could you could have you could have taken a posture of neutrality at the time yeah there's nothing that demanded that you jump wholesale on board with this massive worldwide agenda to you know line the pockets of plenty of people's you know and possibly call the population there's no reason you had to do that particularly when you know probably half your population half your congregation was deeply troubled by it so you didn't have to take that stand like there's nothing like if you're doing the best you could you could just say hey

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I don't know what to think about it right so let's be praying right and no one would have blamed anyone to say

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I don't know what to think about this I guess a little this stuff is beyond me right because because how could you right what well that's the thing though I mean that's what's so crazy about it so on the one hand if you are an individual who's saying

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I don't know what like this doesn't look good they're going to look at you and say you are some science denier idiot right who's just deceived and you know get your tinfoil hat out they say as they confidently like you know you don't have a you know you don't have any education you don't have any you know you're not a medical doctor you don't know any of this right they'll say as they confidently declare the truth in the matter right right right so but if they were just doing the best they could if that's all they were doing they're just doing the best they could they could have shut up and just say hey you know you guys need to make your own decision about this and we'll we'll we'll support you either way because there's not a lot of information and we also are not qualified apparently if that's what you have to do in order to have eyes that work and a brain that works if you can't engage in it like then that's fine but then if you're going to take those stance that you are the only one who can interpret this information you right you and you alone and all the people who are being suppressed are just on the wrong side and that we just need to you know trust the zeitgeist at that point then you're putting yourself in a situation where you are like responsible for some of the things that happen and you know and I don't know what you do like if you have members of your church who are dead because they took the vaccine

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I don't know what you do in that kind of scenario like when you have you know myocarditis and I mean

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I know more jab related injuries than I know injuries that are not jab related yeah so like that's the thing so like I I know plenty of people who have reverse reactions to that then you have all these people all these pastors who are basically set like saying in a high handed way you better go along with it or you're in sin then they bear some of the responsibility for it you know you want to talk about reparations that's that's real you know so that's something to be thinking about but yeah so is there like a specific like what does that look like does it look like hey these people just need to be you know removed from their position or is it you know like some sort of you know

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I say legal action but there wouldn't ever be a legal action for that because that would mean there that would mean that would have so many implications on so many other groups of people but yeah no

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I think these pharmaceutical companies I mean like the thing the thing is like in any normal situation like these pharmaceutical companies would be held liable for all of the all the consequences that happen from this but immediately what was demanded upon people and this is why like it freaked everyone out is that these like you're mandating everyone get a jab and then you are declaring that these companies who are making it have no legal moral responsibility for the outcome right in an unprecedented way while at the same time like you know waving any like normal perspective of these drugs that you're going to administer on the entire population so you're waving all liability you know magically waving liability removing all testing requirements and then telling everyone to do it and it's just like this is not a good situation

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I don't have to be a medical doctor to know that this is a stupid situation right yeah yeah

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I just have a brain like this is not the way that we've ever done this right so these you know if you unleash a plague upon a population then you're held accountable for it and then you're held accountable for it and so you need to do your due diligence you need to do your testing and so I mean

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I think you know at a certain point like morally at the very least you have pastors who bear some moral responsibility for all the things that are happening because they were a tool that were used that they didn't have to they could have just stayed neutral the third way too yeah

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I mean they could have if you didn't know then you know if you just doing the best you can you could have stayed neutral but you don't get it just what you don't get to do is you don't get to tell people what to do you don't get to tell people that they're morally mandated to do something that every normal person can look at and say this is weird and this is yeah you don't get to tell them that they must do it upon threat of sin and then you know absolve yourself of all the consequences from it in a simplistic kind of way now you know yes

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I mean obviously I think some of the major pharmaceutical company people they need to be sued and possibly killed like the people who orchestrated this plague

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I think they need to be sued and I do think capital punishment is an order right I'm not talking about vigilante kind of stuff

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I'm talking about capital punishment like you know you would do this if like with any like this is like you would do this in any normal situation that people had brains you know but you know we should follow those rules there should be lawsuits that they shouldn't you know they should be open to lawsuits you know in the same kind of way

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I mean I do think that you know I mean I don't think Christians should sue their pastors or anything like that but if you're talking about what would be just I do think they should at the very least step down and say

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I've clowned myself and I've you know bound the conscience of my members to some pretty crazy things and I bear some responsibility to it and because I was so easily manipulated and deceived or even you know involved in it

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I don't think that's I should be at the very least disqualified so the claim was it was unloving to take the job was it actually unloving you mean it was unloving not to take it yeah yeah it was unloving to not take it to refuse it was it actually unloving

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I mean if it's poison it's not loving to take poison right in order to pretend like you're helping your neighbor who is also taking poison like it all hinges on the truth value of what we're talking about right like so I mean it obviously wasn't tested they're admitting that they weren't tested it wasn't tested it obviously wasn't effective it didn't do what they said it was going to do and obviously caused a lot of complications you know

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I know plenty of people who have had significant complications over this you know not everyone but I've noticed people who have had significant complications over it and you know you see athletes healthy athletes who have you know there's a case of there's a story in the gateway pundit and I'm not wanting to make light of someone dying but you know author

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Doug Brignole I'm not sure how to pronounce his name he passed away at 63 but he basically says

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I have enough confidence in the vaccine based on my research to get it done those of you who think that the jab kills people we violated that so many times

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I don't know that we can it's over at this point can use me as he says you can use me as a test if I die you're right if I don't die and have no ill effects you are wrong but you should admit it at least to yourself better yet you should admit that you were misled and told the world who misled you so other people could benefit from avoiding those fear -mongering so he did that you know he died very recently at 62 out of nowhere 63 out of nowhere healthy guy he said you can use me as a test case scenario and I healthy for his age body age yeah body builder yeah now

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I mean you I don't know what to make of that kind of thing I don't know they haven't determined what the cause of death actually is but there's a lot of people who are suddenly dying for no reason you know but he's putting himself forward as a test case and I mean

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I you know you can say that all day long and that doesn't mean that it's a necessarily a fair but it's ironic at the very least right that you know and that's happened to plenty of people but I mean yeah

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I just I don't know how you you know how you can you know

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I I think those kind of pastors have disqualified themselves and they've done it like a great eve I mean it's just it's unthinkable man like it's it's unthinkable like to know that so many people have died of this thing and you were part of it and you know but then you can't even get them on Twitter to say we were wrong will you forgive us right no one has said that no one no one will say that probably

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I mean it's not even like that's not even that's a lot less than what should happen you know I think

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I think most people would be content if you were say I was wrong I was deceived yeah

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I was I was foolish you know I was fooled but what's happened is the goal posts keep on changing right yeah so the goal posts are constantly changed to love your neighbor this is a hundred percent effective right love your neighbor it'll reduce your chance of getting it love your neighbor it will mitigate mitigate the damage when you do get it and make it less severe possibly fatal but come on like so you keep on changing the goal post all along the way and then pretend like everyone who had a legitimate consensus

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I mean like every one of these conspiracy theories almost have come true yeah I'm I mean they the conspiracy theorists maybe there was a conspiracy you know they might be undefeated right now yeah

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I mean it's like you know if you look at it where we're at right now it's like every you know almost every one of those stupid conspiracies that we were told were just conspiracies every and so I mean sometimes like the thing is it's like look there are conspiracies that happen and it would be good if you can see the signs when you're in the middle of a conspiracy right right yeah so I mean like you can't like if you if you basically like put like turn all conspiracy theorists into just irredeemable crazies then like you have no no people left over who can ever see through a plot to do something bad anymore right now that's not to say you know every single conspiracy theory out there is right but then you do have to I mean but you can't you can't ignore everything that you're seeing well yeah

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I mean but that's the point though is to say that if you want to be the kind of person who carries out a conspiracy then you turn the idea of you know conspiracy theorist as an irredeemable kind of person in your society then you get a lot of do because you can just point at them and say oh look at there another conspiracy theorists it's like well sometimes people have considered conspiracies man what do you do you know right like sometimes there are people evil people with evil agendas who are trying to do evil things and you know like the

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World Economic Forum is continually telling us their plans and then if we believe them we're told we're conspiracy theorists it's like no we know what your plan is we know you want everyone to own nothing and all of us be happy we know you want to take away all our stuff we know you're buying up all the properties we know that you know the price of mortgages going through the roof we know that you're trying to turn us into you know energy like get rid of fossil fuels and everything else we know that you're you've told us over and over again that we need to dramatically reduce the population of the planet and so can we believe you when you say these things that's what you're trying to do and you have books written on it any of speeches and so I think at a certain point it's like that's like we need to relearn that yeah there are evil people with evil agendas and we need to sometimes believe it when they tell us what they're doing.

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Now moving forward with stuff like this what should the response be from faithful Christians I mean should you trust these people should you you know demand demand that they repent.

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You're talking about the pastors you're talking about the people in charge. Should they demand like pastors repent?

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Oh I think so. Of all people, pastors are the ones who are basically saying that the easiest thing you can do in the world is to repent, right?

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We have a gospel message that's built on repentance. So that's the message. The whole message is that God has come to forgive us, not on the basis of anything that we do, but on the basis of Him showing undeserved mercy, favor, compassion, kindness towards us.

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If we confess our sins, He's faithful just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. That's how religion is built on forgiveness.

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If you're telling people week in and week out that they can have the forgiveness of Christ if they confess their sins, then you should be willing to show us what it looks like when you're wrong.

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At bare minimum, you need to say, I was wrong. Will you forgive me? Not apologize, but I was wrong.

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Will you forgive me? I was deceived. I shouldn't have spoken to issues that I was ignorant about.

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I shouldn't have shamed people who had concerns and turned them into basically sinners for having concerns that I should have saw.

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But that'll never happen. So for faithful Christians, should you trust these people?

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If you're going to their churches, should you stop going to their churches? How can you possibly trust the kind of person who literally, you're looking at them saying, this is poison,

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I don't want to drink it. And they're saying, love your neighbor demands you drink it as you watch people die.

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And then you refuse to drink it and you lose your job. You know, many of these people, how do you go to a person like that?

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And then they won't even say this, like, sorry, will you please forgive me? Right. It's like, come on, wake up.

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People are dead. People are dead. And many of us lost our jobs.

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And like you were consenting to it. Right. And publicly shamed and public square.

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Yeah. You were on the side of the persecutors and you can't even admit you're on the wrong side and that you were mocking us and insulting us and reviling us and taking the side of these wicked people who are trying to kill us.

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Right. Like, come on. You can't even ask forgiveness for that.

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And if they can't even ask forgiveness, then find somewhere else. Okay. So find somewhere else.

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Don't go to those churches. Demand their repentance. Right. Demand their repentance.

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And that's the loving thing to do. I mean, you know, when you see your brother in sin, you want to help.

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You want to. I mean, I say, brother, you know, who knows if all the who knows if some of these people are actually brothers.

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But putting putting that aside for a second, you want to see people in general repent of their sin.

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Right. Right. And so so the most loving thing that we could do is say, hey, you guys bare minimum have to admit that this is wrong.

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You were deceived. And, you know, it's and it's not it's not out of the realm of possibility to think that you may directly be involved in someone's death.

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The same the same way that they were saying you would be involved with someone's death death if you didn't get the jab.

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Right. Right. They they are. They're involved in it because over and over the goalposts have moved.

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It's been obvious that whatever is going on here is not normal and it's not working.

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No one Pfizer and the rest of these pharmaceutical companies, they have not delivered on what they originally promised.

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And you aren't even willing to admit that two years later. You're the worst kind of hypocrite, because the whole time you're saying that no one who doesn't have a medical degree can comment on it while you didn't have a medical degree and you were doing the exact opposite.

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Right. Yeah. So, I mean, you're the worst kind of hypocrite. You're basically saying, hey, you know, you're not allowed to speak to this because you're not a doctor, they say.

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So just do what the doctors say. Right. So. So. So let's say something like this happens in the future.

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How should Christians respond? Should now that we are armed with the information that we know, you know.

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Should we approach some sort of like new disease with a new, you know, response to it?

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Should we approach it as like neutral? Like, hey, I'm not going to, you know, maybe maybe the stuff that they make will work.

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Maybe it won't. Or should they have more of an approach that's like, no, I've seen how they handled this in the past.

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I'm not going to trust them. Well, I think. Yeah, I think many African -Americans have exactly that posture because they remember things like the

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Tuskegee experiments and everything else. So I think this isn't new.

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I mean, obviously, like, you know, you have leaders who have shown us dramatically that they have the capacity to do shady things at this point.

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But, I mean, we should have always known that they they had that kind of capacity. So, I mean,

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I, you know, I think one of the things that concerned me when it happened was it was the same group of people who had been for years screaming about Trump.

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And, you know, could this be the beginning of the end? Could this be the beginning of the end of his pregnancy or his presidency?

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They said the whole time. And like, you know, he has no shot and he won't win and all that. And it's the same group of people that were just so wrong.

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So hysterical repeatedly all of a sudden are now pushing this mindless thing. So I think that should give you some kind of pause and it should change your expectations about what's normal and how you're going to interact with people along these lines.

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I mean, I think there's a lot of doctors out there who are just following orders from on high. You know, most of them weren't pulling out their microscopes and doing research on this thing.

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They're just listening to, you know, studies that are being done by pharmaceutical companies. So I think what you have to do is you have to realize that there's a lot of money involved in a lot of these things.

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There's a lot of agendas that are involved. And, I mean, I've been doing that for years as it relates to the issue of psychotropic drugs because I know that there's a lot of money involved.

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And, I mean, you have to learn how to interact with the medical establishment. And, like, less of a blind slave.

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Like, I'm just a slave and I'm just going to do whatever you say. Because you have a different worldview than me. We have different priorities.

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We have a different book that we're following. And we have a different view of the world. Different understanding of sin.

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Different understanding of man. So I think you have to, like, relearn how to…

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Like, there's a skill that people haven't learned how to do. They basically just… Whatever the doctor tells them, they do.

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Like, if a doctor tells them that their anxiety is not their fault, then they're going to go and get on an addictive drug.

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If they tell them their depression is not their fault, they're going to get on an addictive drug. If they tell them they have PTSD, they're going to get on their drug.

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So we have drugs that are answers to everything across the board anyways. If they tell you it's not a baby, you know, you're going to take your drug to kill it.

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So, like, what we really need to learn is that we are in a war here. And we have a different worldview.

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And you can't have blind trust and faith in the medical community like you might have been tempted to do.

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And you should have learned this lesson a long time ago. This isn't a new lesson. So now this is just another instance where it becomes imperative upon you to be informed about what you're doing.

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And demand more from your doctors. Demand more answers from them. That doesn't mean –

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I mean, there's the kind of person that basically thinks that they're kind of – like, they've gone to med school and they're going to go online and research every problem they have and come up with some kind of natural solution to everything that is going to end up giving themselves cancer too or something like that.

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But, like, I'm not trying to suggest, like, a hyper -skepticism. I'm just – you need to be informed about what you're talking about.

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Right. What we're being asked. And you can't just be a kind of person that, you know, is not able to see evil people with agendas trying to brainwash you.

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I mean, every time – you know, you just need to learn that any time the celebrities come out and tell you you need to do something, there's probably more to it.

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Right? Yeah. So when all the celebrities come out in support of Ukraine, you might think, is this more complicated than that?

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Right? Like, when all the celebrities come out in support of a jab, you say, is this more complicated than that?

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When all the celebrities come out in support of Biden, is it more complicated than this? And so you have to learn, like, that whenever the hardcore press is put out in the media, there might be more to it.

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And it may be that you don't – you know, I don't think the opposite of whatever they're saying is necessarily true, but you need to know that, like, something's going on.

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Right? So you have to learn how to see the signs here. You know, and I think if you're a pastor, you need to, like, wake up and realize that, like, you need to be very careful about what you're saying.

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Right. Okay. Well, I think that's a good place for us to wrap up this episode. And I do think, you know, for Christians, the response to all this needs to be, number one, you know, pastors need to be – need to repent of pushing something that they – they really –

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I mean, there's probably a lot of really bad motivation for pushing the jab in the first place that they need to repent of.

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But then beyond that, I think, you know, it's good to encourage people, hey, if they're not going to, if they're not even willing to do that, then they're not people who are going to lead you faithfully.

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And they're not people who are going to teach the Bible faithfully or at least, you know, teach how to apply the

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Bible faithfully because they can't do it themselves. And that needs to be taken pretty seriously.

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But then also looking forward to – because I promise you there will be another sort of pandemic, whatever it looks like.

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It might be the global warming stuff. It's kind of looking like that's going to be it since monkeypox, you know.

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Didn't pan out. Yeah, it didn't work the way that they really – the way that it might have been intended to work.

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It's probably global warming. And you just – you need to remember the people who are pushing stuff like the jab and refuse to admit that they were wrong and watch what they say about what the next thing is.

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And then ask yourself, am I willing to ignore everything that I saw them be wrong on before and blindly trust them with this one?

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And I think that's a legitimate question that you need to ask moving forward.

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And that can possibly protect you from a lot of, you know, harm down the road with whatever the next thing is.

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