F4F | Remnant Radio Wickedly Promotes Heidi Baker

Remnant Radio’s Promotion of Heidi Baker and the Need for Biblical Discernment

Welcome to another installment of Fighting for the Faith. My name is Chris Roseboro. I am your servant in Jesus Christ. This is the channel that compares what people are saying in the name of God to the Word of God.

So a month or so, it was a month ago, a little more than a month ago, we did a really long episode of Fighting for the Faith, our longest that we've ever put out, as a rebuttal to the Remnant Radio guys.

And I can legitimately say, looking at my production schedule, I have more critiques of Remnant Radio slated for the days, weeks, months ahead for Fighting for the Faith, and I believe that this is a necessary thing to do.

It's not that I'm picking on them. Instead, I think that they are extremely dangerous people. And the reason why I think they are extremely dangerous people is because of their stubborn refusal to properly apply the biblical test to people coming to us in the name of God or in the name of the Holy Spirit, who are clearly false prophets, false teachers, and who are trafficking in and manifesting false manifestations of a thing called Holy Spirit that isn't really the Holy Spirit.

It's a false spirit altogether. And case in point, if you went into the archives of Remnant Radio on their YouTube channel now, you will find that 15 videos are missing. 15. And what happened to them?

Well, I don't know. Remnant Radio hasn't explained why they pulled them down. 15 videos with Sam Storms talking about the history of IHOP in Kansas City, and Bob Jones, and the Kansas City Prophets, and Mike Bickle, and all of these kind of like ghost stories, if you would, that they claim, though this was all the Holy Spirit acting to kind of prop up Mike Bickle and the International House of Prayer, as this was truly, truly a move of God in a special place where God was pouring out His Spirit for healing, and prophecy, and signs, and wonders, and things like this.

And now we know that that's not the case. In fact, we know that for decades, Mike Bickle had engaged in inappropriate sexual predatory behavior, at least that's the allegations, of multiple women from the International House of Prayer.

And on top of it, he claimed that God the Holy Spirit told him to tell these women that he was doing these things with, that his wife Diana was going to die, and that he was going to marry this woman, or these women, and things like this.

There's a consistent pattern. That's.

Prophetic.

Abuse, prophetic sexual abuse, you know, I'm not sure what the right term is there. And so here's the thing, those 15 episodes were absolutely horrible, because they were propping Mike Bickle up, and in them, Sam Storms was claiming, you know, the impeccable godly character of Mike Bickle, and what a man of God he is, and and then taking us through all of these little ghost stories, you know, there was apparently a prophecy regarding a thunderstorm, and a heat wave, and a drought, and a comet, and stuff like this, that all proves that this was God talking.

Well, if God was really talking at all of this, why did the Remnant Radio guys take it down? Because what was interesting is that in their commentary in these videos regarding Bob Jones, the prophet Bob Jones, oh, they recognized that Bob had a significant moral failing.

What was Bob Jones's moral failing? They didn't explain that to anybody in these 15 videos, but Bob Jones would have women come into his office for a prophetic, you know, to receive a prophetic word from the Lord, and he would have them undress and take off all their clothes to receive this word from God, these words from God, and that's what he was doing, and he got caught doing it.

That being said, one of the things that was said in these 15 videos, which are now gone, by the way, I have all of them, is that they basically, Sam Storm said, well, at the time that Bob Jones gave these prophecies regarding the founding of IHOP and related to Mike Bickle, he hadn't engaged in those, in that behavior that required him to be disciplined.

Well, here's the thing. Mike Bickle was engaging in those things and engaging in them for decades. And the thing is, is that if you had applied true biblical discernment comparing what Bickle was saying in the name of God to the Word of God, you would have been able to identify him for the false prophet and the predator that he is.

But these men, all because they have to protect the integrity of their continuationist theology, which by the way, the earliest Pentecostals were not continuationists. They legitimately were all cessationists.

Again, read Frank Bartleman's eyewitness account of Azusa Street, and you'll see what I'm saying, especially chapter 6. In fact, Bartleman explains why the Holy Spirit wasn't acting, you know, from basically the time of the 3rd or 4th century until the Azusa Street revival and the Pentecostal revivals of Azusa Street and Parham and those guys.

Yeah, there's a whole narrative in there. And that was the Holy Spirit left the church. The original Pentecostals were all cessationists. It's kind of an interesting thing there. But I don't believe that the Holy Spirit ever stopped working in the church.

The Holy Spirit's been working through all the centuries of Christianity. The Holy Spirit never left the church. And so that's kind of an interesting thing altogether, but I'm off topic. But what Remnant Radio does, despite any good that they could potentially do, and they've had some good guests on, they've had some good theological topics.

I love the interview they did with Chad Bird. And I found the recent interview they did regarding the Septuagint to be fascinating, a very interesting interview. But any good that they potentially can be doing is legitimately nullified and canceled by their stubborn refusal to call a false prophet a false prophet and their continual promotion of people who are obvious charlatans and hucksters and their refusal to call the charlatans and hucksters false teachers and false prophets and do what scripture says, and that is to mark and avoid them.

Instead, these people say, well, you know, you know, they're well-meaning Christians. They're misguided and things like that. When in fact they aren't. Case in point is the topic of our episode today.

In fact, let me pull up let me switch over to the desktop and pull up my web browser. And this was an episode from a month ago where they are singing the praises of Heidi Baker. They had Heidi Baker on for about an hour on their program talking about her mission work in Mozambique and how she helps the poor and all this kind of stuff.

And just letting her tell all of her stories without any factual evidence to back some of these claims up, while claiming that, oh, her miracles have been proven by an independent third-party group. We'll address that in a minute.

And then at the very end, taking a swipe at the people who have been rightly warning the body of Christ about Heidi and Roland Baker and the false holy spirit that those two traffic in. And we'll demonstrate this.

And they didn't even address any of the real issues, just accused the people who've been warning the body of Christ about Heidi Baker, men like me, of engaging in slandering her and things like this. And then this is just ridiculous.

So we'll show you what Heidi Baker is all about. If you've never seen Heidi Baker in action, all I can say is you might want to get some safety equipment before you watch this, the videos that we'll provide here for you, because this is just loony tune stuff.

This is not the holy spirit that this woman traffics in. It's a false holy spirit altogether. Her pneumatology is actually heretical. It's not just an error. It's a different holy spirit altogether. And the fact that Michael Roundtree and Joshua Lewis and Mr. Miller are incapable of identifying Heidi Baker for the legitimate, dangerous, false sister that she is, is just mind-boggling.

It shows that there's something seriously wonky in their theology and their inability to identify Mike Bickle as a false teacher until all of these allegations started coming forward regarding his abuse.

Again, speaks to the big gaping holes, the blind spots in their theology. And it's not that the Bible has blind spots. It's that they refuse to apply the actual biblical test through these people. And as a result of it, these are willful blind spots on their parts.

When it comes to wrongly identifying people as sound and solid people we can promote and call brother and sister in Christ rather than calling him to repentance. Again, there is something really, really off with the theology of Remnant Radio.

All their claims that they're doing this stuff while they have a complete inability to recognize the real charlatans in the church shows you that their theology is seriously lacking. So, let's take a listen to Michael Roundtree.

And this is near the end of their interview with Heidi Baker, and we'll see what he has to say and we'll interact with it.

And I just want to say to those who are watching or listening out there, when you hear Heidi Baker, and Heidi, you alluded to people who slander you on the internet.

I heard about it.

You know, it happens sometimes. But like, I guess the verse I'm thinking about, it comes from Matthew chapter 11. This will be a little bit of a closing thought because I want to respect your time, Heidi, but and we'll also give you a chance to share a closing thought too.

So, Heidi Baker is a victim of slander.

Gasp!

I've never slandered Heidi Baker. I've always proven, from the receipts, this woman is not trafficking in the real Holy Spirit. Well, we'll show that in a minute.

But I think mine would be this, is you quoted that, you know, the crippled will walk, the blind will see, the deaf will hear, the poor will have good news preached to them. It comes from Matthew chapter 11, Jesus quoting those words to John the Baptist, which is a compilation of Old Testament promises about the Messiah and his ministry.

But then as you zoom down toward the end of the passage, Jesus is being criticized and grumbled at and all this and you know, the internet trolls are out for Jesus.

Internet trolls. So, I'm the one being slandered here, by the way. Not Heidi Baker. I'll demonstrate that in a minute.

And he says, listen, John the Baptist comes, you say he has a demon. I come, you call me a drunkard and a glutton. Essentially, people with this religious critical spirit despise the Holy Spirit, no matter what package he comes in, whether it's the austere ministry of John the Baptist or the very different ministries, like the party animal Jesus, who's a drunkard and a glutton.

Like, just no matter how...

Did you just call Jesus a party animal? Jesus was not. And the point that Jesus was making is, is that although John the Baptist did not drink alcohol, Jesus did. But Jesus was never a drunkard or a glutton, ever.

He wasn't a party animal. If so, then he was sinful. And that means that he's not your savior in mind. He is in need of a savior. So, again, watch the logic here. Oh, yeah, the trolls were out, you know, to hate on Jesus and to slander him.

And they're doing the same with Heidi Baker.

God comes and visits you. You despise the package, no matter what. But then he finishes by saying wisdom is justified by your children. In other words, the spirit expresses himself in many different ways.

And sometimes...

No, that text does not say the spirit expresses himself in many different ways. You just read that into the text. That's a form of Bible twisting called eisegesis.

Sometimes it's going to look like Heidi Baker's ministry. And sometimes it's going to look like Sam Storm's ministry. And sometimes...

No, the Holy Spirit would never look like Heidi Baker's ministry. Let's do a little bit of a walkthrough, shall we? Again, I have been covering Heidi Baker for more than a decade, decade and a half. And in all of the things I've covered regarding her and the criticism I've offered, it's because this woman is not manifesting the biblical Holy Spirit, but a false spirit altogether.

Case in point, let's head over to this Bethel moment. And this was compiled by a website called Is Not Satire. And let's just take a look at this Bethel moment, shall we?

And I see a very strange vision right now where I see crowns within crowns within crowns within crowns within crowns within crowns. And as soon as you take the crown off and place it on the child, I see like a pyramid of crowns upon the child's head.

And they take the largest one off and place it on another. And there's another one there.

This is Bethel.

I see this. I feel like there's this. It's like a mountain of provision of anointing. The more you give away.

Grab a prophecy bingo card. This is a prophecy that she's giving.

The more you will receive, says the Lord. So right now, I'm sensing.

Now, note that it says in a minute, this kid is going to have a demonic spirit imparted to him. And I think the person who put this video together is not wrong. Let's keep going.

I'm sensing really strongly. It's going to sound a little odd, but too late. I want you just to take in the spirit realm that crown that's on your head and just place it upon someone else. They're going to just get wrecked all over the room.

You just OK, don't don't do it. Don't do it like it doesn't matter.

So no, the people in the audience there at Bethel, they're taking crowns, visible crowns off their heads and placing them on other people.

Do it in the most.

In part, God did not tell them to do this.

This is not the Holy Spirit speaking most impartation that you've ever believed for right now. You're going to part to each other. So you're going to take it. You're going to put it on somebody else's head and watch and then say more Lord.

More Lord.

Now watch what happens to the kid that she's holding his head.

Everybody place, place that anointing, that crown, that gift upon someone else's head. Keep praying. Every single one of you impartation legacy, legacy, legacy, legacy, legacy, legacy, legacy, Increase your glory.

Fire.

So she just called down fire on that fellow and the bald guy right there in front of her. That's Roland Baker.

There's fire placed on their heads. Find somebody. I think he's got it.

Shake a bob up. That ain't tongues. That's just nonsense. That's gibberish. Now watch this guy flopping around on the floor, writhing in pain.

Legacy.

That ain't the Holy Spirit. That's a demonic manifestation.

You've ever seen in your life. 10 times. Start to prophesy over.

More Lord.

Well, he's in pain after she called down fire on this fellow. He's just writhing and now she's asking for more. I mean, the guy legitimately looks like he's being tormented.

Yeah.

So, um, that's not the Holy Spirit. Okay, let me, let me show you the only time we see in the scriptures, anything described like what you just saw is when a demon manifests. So in Mark chapter nine, when Jesus comes down from the Mount of Transfiguration, says when they came to the disciples, they saw a great crowd around them and the scribes arguing with them.

And immediately all the crowd, when they saw Jesus, they were greatly amazed and ran up to him and greeted him. And he asked them, Oh, what are you arguing about with them? And someone from the crowd answered him, teacher, I brought my son to you for he has a spirit that makes him mute.

And whenever it seizes him, it throws him down and he foams and grinds his teeth and becomes rigid. So I asked your disciples to cast it out and they were not able. He answered them, Oh, faithless generation, how long am I to be with you?

How long am I to bear with you? Bring him to me. And they brought the boy to him. And when the spirit saw him immediately, it convulsed the boy and he fell on the ground and rolled about foaming at the mouth.

That sounds exactly like what we just witnessed. This is a demon manifesting. And Jesus asked his father, how long has this been happening to him? And he said, from childhood, it's often cast him into the fire and into water to destroy him.

But if you can do anything, have compassion on us and help us. And Jesus said to him, if you can, all things are possible for the one who believes. And immediately the father of the child cried out and said, I believe, help my unbelief.

And when Jesus saw that a crowd came running together, he rebuked the unclean spirit saying you mutant spirit, I command you to come out of him and never to enter him again. Let's take a look at more of Heidi Baker.

Actually, let's take a look at her husband, by the way. We mentioned Roland. Let's take a look, a little bit of a gander at what kind of spirit Roland Baker traffics in, shall we? There's no escape. Now that's him, the bald guy in the center with the peach colored shirt.

Resistance is futile. You don't look like you're in control.

Yeah.

One of the fruit of the spirit is self-control.

Yeah.

The fruit of the spirit, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness, goodness, self-control. So I don't care how many churches Heidi and Roland Baker have planted in Mozambique. Um, the Holy Spirit that they, that is being worshiped and brought into those churches, ain't the Holy Spirit.

And Heidi Baker known for her drunken shenanigans. Let's take a look. These aren't isolated incidences. This is what this woman is known for. That isn't the Holy Spirit manifesting. That's a demonic spirit.

Listen, I'm like, why don't they get someone else to stop them or something? And they just don't. That's why God keeps showing up here.

That ain't God.

Cause they don't even no matter what it looks like. I mean, this looks weird. If it was me watching, I'd be like, that's weird.

It's oh, it's weird, but that ain't God, the Holy Spirit. And then what about this prophecy that was given at Bethel? Watch this.

There's a call.

There's an eagle cry. There's an eagle cry. And he's calling. He's calling. He's calling.

He's calling.

I see it again.

He's calling.

He's calling you up, up, up, up, up, up, up. He's calling you up, up, up, up, up above the storm. He's calling you up, up, up, up, up above the clouds. He's calling you up, up, up, up. And God himself wants to give you eagle eyes.

He wants to change the way you look at things. And he gave me this prophetic word.

And this woman's a false prophet. That's not a message from God, the Holy Spirit.

For America. And I hear it even now over the school.

And I hear him.

Yeah, this is a prophecy over Hogwarts, Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry.

Your destiny is not to be a chicken. Your destiny is to be an eagle. And I want to call you up. I want to call you up to higher ground where you can see above the dust, above the storm, above the swirl.

And I want to call you to see where I'm moving on the earth, says the Lord. And I want to call you.

Notice, this is a says the Lord prophecy. God didn't say any of these words.

To have wings that soar. You're not called to be a chicken that hops around with a little flight once in a while. You're called to soar. You're called to soar on the wings of my spirit. You're called to rise up on eagle's wings.

To run and not be weary, to walk and not faint. And I want to take your eyes and I want to lift them up, says the Lord. And I want to give you the kind of vision that an eagle has. And I want to give you power over serpents, says the Lord.

You'll be able to dive down like an eagle. And if you would understand how an eagle flies, I'm going to call you to be able to be snake killers. You're going to be able to go straight down, grab the serpent, go straight up.

And you'll fly so high that you'll suffocate the enemy.

Because in the heights.

Is that how snakes die when they're snatched up by eagles? The eagles fly so high that the that the snakes suffocate.

The heights of my spirit.

The enemy has no power, no breath, no air. And I want to take you to higher ground, says the Lord. I want to take you to.

I would note that if eagles flew to the point where there was no oxygen enough to suffocate a snake, they would have no air to fly. You know, their wings would have no lift. And the eagles themselves would suffocate.

I believe that this Holy Spirit is quite mistaken in how eagles kill snakes, which proves that this is not the Holy Spirit. This woman is given a thus saith the Lord prophecy. And clearly the Lord hasn't thus saith.

This is this is just nonsense. And this is what this woman traffics in. This is a false Holy Spirit altogether. So so let me kind of give you a little bit of a heads up here. Paul, in condemning the church at Corinth for putting up with the so-called super apostles, which were not apostles at all.

Watch his condemnation of the church at Corinth. If someone comes and proclaims to you another Jesus, then the one you proclaimed, nor if you received a different spirit from the one you received, if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough.

And he's not giving him a pat on the back saying, oh, how good of you. It's about time you learn how ecumenism works. No, he's saying that the super apostles traffic in a different gospel and a different spirit.

This is not the Holy Spirit. Heidi Baker's heresies are pneumatological. The Holy Spirit that she's that she believes in, that she worships and gives messages from as is known as Holy Spirit, not the Holy Spirit.

It's known as Holy Spirit. And I think it's spelled, you know, in such a way that, you know, it's full of holes like Swiss cheese. But Holy Spirit, that spirit, that's a false Holy Spirit altogether. It's a different deity, a false God.

She's trafficking in idolatry because the spirit that she's bringing is not the real Holy Spirit. Paul then goes on to describe what happens to these people. And he says, such people are false apostles.

They're deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So, it's no surprise if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness.

Their end will correspond to their deeds. So, you can see what's going on here. And that is, is that Heidi Baker, the Holy Spirit she's trafficking in, that ain't the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit never manifests in that way.

In fact, when Christ sends the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit has particular things that Christ says that the Holy Spirit will do. Let's just take a look at a couple of texts in the Gospel of John. Christ says, if you love me, you will keep my commandments.

I mean, that means to guard, to reo, by the way. And I will ask the Father and he will give you another helper, a paraclete. To be with you forever, even the spirit of truth whom the world cannot receive because it neither sees him nor knows him.

You know him for he dwells with you and will be in you. And so, I will not leave you as orphans. I will come to you, let a little while and you'll see me no more. But you will see me because I live, you will also live.

So, then note what he's saying here is that he's going to send the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is going to have things to do. These things I've spoken to you while I'm still with you. But the helper, the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to remembrance all that I said to you.

So, for the apostles of Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit is going to give them a miraculous recall of Jesus' teaching and deeds so that they can be recorded for us in the New Testament and so that we can hear the words of Christ and so that we can believe and trust in him.

John says these things are written so that you might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you might have life in his name. And then let's see here. I think it's 16 where I need to go.

Yeah, here we go. So, Jesus then continues in John 16. He says that, and when he, the Holy Spirit comes, he will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment, concerning sin because they do not believe in me, concerning righteousness because I go to the Father.

You will see me no longer concerning judgment because the ruler of this world is judged. Note here that Jesus doesn't say that when the Holy Spirit comes, he's going to cause you to stumble around drunkenly and the Holy Spirit's going to cause you to writhe in pain like you're manifesting a demon.

He's going to cause you to just completely bliss out and not be able to control your body and weird things like this. Nowhere in Scripture does it talk about that at all. The Holy Spirit convicts the world of sin and unbelief.

The Holy Spirit indwells the believer, is our helper. You'll note that the Holy Spirit prays for us even when we do not know how to pray for ourselves with groanings that we don't even understand. So, this is the true work of the Holy Spirit.

I love the Holy Spirit. There isn't a day that goes by as a Christian that I could survive without the help of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is a daily part of my Christian walk and has been the entire time I've been a Christian.

But that, what we see manifesting from Heidi Baker, that isn't the Holy Spirit. That's a different spirit altogether. And Paul's rebuke to the church at Corinth applies to the guys at Remnant Radio. So, Heidi Baker comes to them, and other men have been coming to Remnant Radio, bringing them a different spirit, a different Jesus, and a different gospel, and not only do they put up with them, they flat out endorse them because of, you know, continuationism.

You know, we got to make sure that we don't quench the spirit. You're going to quench the spirit when you refuse to actually apply the tests of Scripture for those people who are coming to you in the name of Christ, and they're not bringing you a true Holy Spirit.

And it's obvious if you just open up your Bible and compare what they are saying. John, in 2 John, says, Many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not confess the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh.

Such a one is a deceiver. Watch yourselves, so that you may not lose what we've worked for, but may win a full.

Reward.

Everyone who goes on ahead and doesn't abide in the teaching of Christ does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. So, if anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, don't receive him into your house.

Churches met in houses at that time. They couldn't meet in public. Or give him any greeting, for whoever greets him takes part in his wicked works. And I would note that that's exactly what Remnant Radio has been doing.

They have been taking part in the wicked works of blatant false teachers, false prophets, and having them on, treating them as if they're legitimate, and giving them credibility. They've been participating in their wicked works, rather than rebuking them and calling to repentance for their blasphemies and for the deceitfulness of the false Holy Spirit that they're trafficking in.

So, you kind of get the idea. This is part of the reason why I'm a little hot under the collar in this episode. But let's continue with Michael Roundtree here.

It's going to look like this or that. It's going to have a lot of different expressions.

But in fact, let me just back this up so you can hear it again in context, okay? Watch what he's basically trying to do. He's basically saying, well, when the Holy Spirit shows up, sometimes it's going to look like Heidi Baker, rolling around on the ground and causing people to writhe like they're manifesting a demon.

No, it never will be that.

A very different ministry. It's like the party animal Jesus, who's a drunkard and a glutton. Like, just no matter how God comes and visits.

Jesus was never a drunkard and a glutton. He was accused of being that, but he wasn't. He was not a party animal either.

You despise the package, no matter what. But then he finishes by saying, wisdom is justified by your children. In other words, the Spirit expresses himself in many different ways. And sometimes it's going to look like Heidi Baker's ministry.

And sometimes it's...

No, the Holy Spirit will never look like Heidi Baker's ministry, ever.

Ever.

Going to look like Sam Storm's ministry. And sometimes it's going to look like this or that. It's going to have a lot of different expressions. But wisdom is justified by our children. In other words, look at the fruit.

And I just want to say...

We just looked at the fruit. This is fruit. This is fruit. This drunken slovenliness of hers, that's fruit. Her false prophecy at BSSM is fruit. That's part of it. You can't sit there and say, well, she cares for orphans in Mozambique.

That's fruit. I would note that Islam... One of the five pillars of Islam is giving alms to the poor. Are we to somehow say that that means that Islam is on the same level and is equally true as Christianity and is an expression of the Holy Spirit?

Of course not.

Okay?

So you'll note this then comes under a different category of a test of a prophet. Deuteronomy 13 says this. If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, let us go after other gods which you have not known and let us serve them, you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams.

For Yahweh, your God, is testing you to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. You shall walk after Yahweh, your God, and fear him and keep his commandments and obey his voice.

That's right. Heidi Baker doesn't bring us God's voice. And so you sit there and go, well, there's documented proof that she helped heal, that God used her to give hearing to the deaf in Mozambique. It's been recorded by people who are doctors and they've proven that God performed a miracle.

Here.

No, you just documented a miracle. You haven't actually documented that God is the one who performed it. And the reason why I say that is because God tells us that there will be false prophets who will be able to perform great signs and wonders.

And so, Heidi Baker, if you would just open your eyes and compare the Holy Spirit she's talking about and the Holy Spirit she's manifesting to the Holy Spirit found in the Scripture, you would recognize that that Holy Spirit that she worships and brings is a different Holy Spirit altogether, and it is legitimately a different God.

No, there's just no two ways about it. And, you know, this is the reason why I've been warning the church about Heidi Baker for years, and I have never slandered her in pointing out all the wicked, evil, bizarre stuff that she's engaged in and saying that's not biblical, it contradicts the Scripture, and that's not the Holy Spirit.