Season 2 Ep 1 The Here I Stand Theology Podcast - Religion & Politics and how the Gospel relates to both

Here I stand I Can do no other Will you recant or will you not?

Since your majesty and your lordships desire a simple Reply I will answer unless I am convinced by scripture and By plain reason and not by popes and councils who have so often contradicted themselves the conscience

Is captive to the word of God To go against conscience is neither right nor safe and I will not

All right, welcome to the here

I stand theology podcast We are a podcast devoted to a pointed and spirited debate of biblical doctrine.

Welcome to 2022 We have two special guests on today. We have the pirates of the pirate

Christian media Chris Roseboro and Josh or If he's in trouble

Joshua Roseboro, don't know his middle name, but we all know Roseboro when he's in trouble

Joshua Michael Roseboro is in the house Jm. That's a good theology name there

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John Newton once said the following it is impossible That either men or angels can fully sound the depth of this one sentence

That Jesus Christ came into the world to save sinners Once said the following it is impossible that either men or angels can fully sound the depth of this one sentence

That Jesus Christ came into the world to save sinners Now here's something minister.

Listen to me Again, we have this present tense Idea keep on commanding and teaching and notice

That if you put these two together We're talking about teaching with authority and you cannot teach with authority based on your position or office

You teach with authority only to the degree that you correctly interpret and communicate

God's Word and boom

Let's begin by holding this up and reminding everybody roll tide Roger Funny thing about the whole roll tide thing the very first submarine.

I actually went out on was the USS, Alabama Cool. Ah So was there some kind of thing where when you boarded you had to say roll tide there

I roll tide iconography. That was about the boat. It was very much of like You know that kind of thing it's not like the movie

Crimson Tide whether you know They're standing on a pier and drenched rain and stuff like that and going It's like somebody like get these guys inside.

You're soaking wet That was a good movie by the way, so Chris and Josh are

In a very very cold place right now guys. Tell us what's going on there and on your part of the

US So we got about two feet of snow on the ground and yesterday we woke up and the the low overnight was 30 below zero

Fahrenheit, so it's it's warmed up to a Well three degrees today.

It's right now. It's three. We're breaking up the Sun Tan lotion. Yeah, that's right Shorts on in a tank top here in a minute, but So so Josh earlier said that there was

About a 100 degree difference between the inside and the outside of your houses set the house interior for 70 degrees and it was about negative 33 to negative 36 as a 133 to 36 degree difference between the outside of your home and the interior which is just a terrifying thought

Especially when your heat goes out like it did for me Oh My how long was it out for It was practically the entire day.

We had a way to call a guy in and Get it like one of the electrical relays had burned out

So but I was able to once I cycled power to the darn boiler We able to get some heat back in the house, but it was starting to get dangerously low

I'm glad to hear you've got power again and or heat again. Oh, yeah, so We'll get right to it here

Would you all like to just kind of rip? We'll we'll just reminisce about the joy in the victories and the defeats of the past year

Before we get to the religion in the politics. Let's let's just be let's just talk personal for a moment

What are some victories and some defeats that y 'all feel and some struggles y 'all feel like you had this past year?

Starting with Chris So So man, this is kind of an interesting thing

I would say that a big victory was the ability to just be in the grind in serving my neighbor as as a pirate and a pastor and And so although I started off last year with kovat

You know that that was loads of fun. I Don't recommend that You can avoid it do it but The the one thing

I could say about 2021 is that it was just gloriously predictable as far as my workload is concerned and the people that we were serving and The Lord continues to bring people to the congregations that I serve

So that they can hear the gospel so they can be confronted with their sins and have the assurance

That Christ has bled and died for them and then be grounded in the basics of the Christian faith.

So 2021 for me was just wonderfully

Normal predictable and and just a good grind so Awesome.

So can I can ask you a quick question because I've noticed this over time because I you know

I catch every one of your episodes But when you you use the term in plural

Congregation, so do you serve more than the one Kongs? Yes. Yeah, that's right So I serve two physical congregations in Minnesota Kongsvinger Lutheran Church in Oslo and rate in radium,

Minnesota. I serve a small congregation as well That's in the Missouri Synod Emanuel Lutheran Church and then we have people that we serve around the world online in in kind of a virtual congregation that is lovingly referred to as Aletheia Lutheran and so my weekends are spent

Pretty much the whole weekend Saturdays and Sundays preaching and teaching Just depending on which of the congregations that we're serving and the folks that we serve online many of them are geographically disconnected from being able to attend a solid church like You know, so we have people who live out in the bush and in Australia some folks who live in You know at different parts of the world or where their choices are like liberalism

Roman Catholicism are crazy charismatic. They don't really have much as far as options are concerned.

And so We serve them via the internet Because we're able to do that nowadays

But you know, but if if they if they're able to find a you know, physical congregation, that's that's a better solution than the

Internet But we serve all of those people, you know, you know weekend and week out so Well, that that makes me even more thankful for your ministry, sir.

I appreciate it. That's a blessing You don't you don't hear a lot about You know a multi congregational pastor at least in in the back where I'm from in the

Baptist Reformed Baptist world You know, you don't hear about that much Had a brother -in -law years ago served two congregations.

I mean he would go on Sunday from one to the other like that and so within confessional

Lutheranism There's a shortage of pastors and especially in places like a rural

North Dakota rural, Minnesota Many of the pastors that I have as friends.

They don't have the luxury of only serving in one congregation I you know, I in fact I have a close friend in the ministry.

He serves three Local congregations and so he you know, he travels between the three churches

You know on every on every given Sunday, and that's just it's kind of like an all -hands -on -deck kind of thing so You know the luxury of serving one small

Congregation that that that that's a luxury. None of us have anymore. So well

How about you Josh? Me, I mean this last year. I got covered around the same time as my father did so we got to Suffer through that madness would not recommend zero out of ten.

It's it's it stinketh So By now by now it surely stinketh

So some of the some things I got to do this year not only did I get to attend my brother -in -law's wedding, but one of my one of my best friends that I have got married and I was able to go out into California During the middle of the year and go back

It's the first time I've been back to California in like 12 years and that was the state I grew up in so it was

It's a little bit of a blast of the past, but I and I thoroughly enjoyed my time there

I got to go to a bachelor party It was it was it was nice to get out of the house, even in midst 2021 with all the lockdown madness

I still found time to visit friends and family, which was which was very much a blessing.

And so I'm very grateful for that. I You know, I've also been this was the first full year that we've done

Video production work for the church. I have a camera set up. I record every every

Sunday audio, I've been doing audio for six years now practically and So it's only been within this last year that we've done just you know as video as well for the entire year because when we try to Fire that up in 2020.

That was when the lockdown hit and then everyone We've been we've been chugging along we have a

YouTube channel for Kongsbinger Lutheran that has like 1 ,400 subscribers right now we don't really make a big deal out of it because you know,

I Don't really feel like getting the the wrong people on the trail and being like we gotta shut it down Just what your dad would need hecklers coming hecklers coming in Congregation and then you'll have to bounce them out.

Yeah, thankfully they have it, you know, you have to really know where you're going to find Kongsbinger Accidentally passing through so kind of geographically we're a little protected there, but it's it's really easy to have internet trolls and Let's just say there's some people out there some really weird ideas about what

I believe so Jesuit or something I did just the weirdest stuff.

So The usual the usual riff -raff One of our biggest attractors at least on our

YouTube channel right now is a guy that basically saying there's nobody in the church You can hear the tumbleweed going through the building

Lane to him that you know, it's like, you know, it's the Lutherans. They always sit in the back pews. I mean, you know

If a Lutheran sits in the front queue we suspect that they've been you know Influenced by a false prophet and they're going charismatic, you know, so You mentioned the trolls and all that I actually

I'll just come out and say that's roll a local cesspool of heretical sewage in our in our tank right outside our town.

It's called the whale It's a godly vocation trolling those who would I've heard of well

Yeah, yeah, yeah, they call themselves a revival hub I'm actually getting ready to do a video on the on this a sermon from the guy that preached two weeks ago

I did one several months back because I have to I can't like their page on Facebook or anything

Because they'll end up blocking me. So But I mean, it's it is with Without a doubt unequivocal that not only did they not

Preach the gospel because they're all about casting out demons and prophecy and all this other stuff unbiblical prophecy

Yeah, they do not even know what the gospel is and it's I mean, it's both

Yeah, angering and heartbreaking at the same time. Yeah a friend a really close friend of mine who you guys would know

He recently had a conversation with a woman claiming that she's a prophetess and in her conversation with him, she she acknowledged that she doesn't really know the

Bible very well and When he challenged her regarding the gospel and says are you familiar with John 3 16?

She'd never even heard the verse before and he said, you know, God so loved the world that he and she couldn't

Says yeah, I don't really know the Bible that well, but she Claims From God, you know

Yeah. Yeah Yeah, this is where biblical terminology well -defined is so important in the church age today.

Yeah. Oh Man alright, so so again to our listeners

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Those are mandatory are important. I noticed though that you all had though I don't know if you're still that store still up, but I remember a while back looking in y 'all got those on your side

For a long time, it's been a long time since I've really kind of focused on them Although every now and then

I let people know what I'm researching and if I take a photo of my screen

You know and and who I'm researching I'll put the fuzzy bunny slippers on so that and they're in the shot, you know

All right, so let's get to it let's discuss Starting we'll start in Actually, Josh, what was the the title that you said we should have put on this episode?

What your Thanksgiving dinner should have been or what? You're Thanksgiving convert dinner conversation should have been or something like that.

It's yeah, right So we are going to be discussing today religion and politics the faux pas seemingly to everyone who seems like they know what they're talking about, but We're going to discuss some of the larger more prevalent events

Particularly in we're just gonna make it sample. We're just gonna go to the first We're just gonna look at some of the events in the first quarter of 2020 or I'm sorry, this is 2022 2021 so we're gonna look at just a few events there and These got where we want these guys to give us their input.

We're here to listen to them today in any way Well again, we're only going to touch on the first three months and Actually the latter portion we may talk a little bit about as well the

Kyle Rittenhouse trial and the Jesse Smollett trial I still think of the blazing saddles meme

We have already broken the woke code Well the fact that we're all three straight men who are

White it means that we've already broken the code as long from the very beginning from the moment you hit record.

So We're mansplaining all of this stuff too, so, you know, you know that the feminists can't handle what we're doing here now exactly, so for the feminists that May have

So, I think each of these things will demonstrate

With I like to try to use big words from time to time with purpose cuity And I still wonder to this day why purpose cuity means clarity when purpose cuity itself does not seem to be clear

But we'll understand with purpose cuity at the world in which we live today is as the kids would say cray -cray

All right, I should probably have my main card revoked just for saying that right there Try that self too and I always get the weird awkward looks from you know, the young He lives for it, you know

We are kindred spirits Again let's begin with January 6 2021

Pro Trump riders stormed the US Capitol on the day Congress was voting to approve

President Joe Biden's victory in the 2020 election Josh Yeah, seem like you're busting at the seams.

Give us a commentary Context or whatever.

I I've seen I've seen posts today that there are liberal groups that are holding Vigils, you know and on January 6 this year to commemorate the one year of the horrible like the worst thing that's 9 -11 like and that's the rhetoric that people are using.

Um, okay. So just for just for my own From my own sanity here. I'll say this

January 6 was not a good day It's it's objectively not a good day Like they should not have entered the

Capitol building with with the intent of harming or intimidating the politicians. All right, that's

That's a bad thing And I will state this that what

BLM and Antifa did for a solid year We're talking a solid year of writing burning down businesses low -income housing

Assaulting people in the streets. There was there was there's um stories coming out of Oregon where?

An Antifa member shot a Trump supporter in cold blood with a pistol and then

It was on I think it was either vice or BuzzFeed or wherever and had a puff piece written about him about how such how how good of a person they were

You know and and this of course is you know, the the FBI came down on him. They had to shoot him

He's dead this that and the other and then the deal and then of course even back then it's when

Kyle Rittenhouse had to defend himself with an AR -15 because a

A Fan of struggle snuggling with children decided to touch him without his

Without his consent and died because of it and then he was chased down by a wife beater and a self -proclaimed communist

Both of which were shot only another person died, but the one person had their bicep blown off And then there was the whole trial to the end, you know in 2021 and all that junk

But the deal is is that everything leading up to January 6 was just escalation of force escalation of force escalation of force

And it was primarily from the left. I would say it was like a 90 -10 split And maybe

I'm being generous to the 10 % part but the deal is is that you have all of these all of these Americans who are fed up with the abuses of the lockdowns of BLM and Antifa destroying their cities and towns with relative impunity you have a

Person running for the presidency who them and their VP have actively contributed to getting

Antifa members and BLM activists who have been violent out of prison and then you have

January 6 you have one day one singular day Where the conservatives say that's it.

I've had it. I'm gonna go do something crazy and then it's the end of the world Oh, oh no, look what they've done. They've they've stormed the

Capitol building. It's the end of the world. Our democracy is gone No, here's the thing Is that the

Democrats and their and the brown shirts going around and smashing up cities and stores and people?

They were going they were going after you they were going after you and but the thing that made them scared is that the

Conservatives went after their source of power went directly to the source of where all their power stems from and that's what scared them

That's why they're peeing their pants. That's why they're still writing articles to this day about how what a terrible horrible thing it was

Even though you have I literally have photographs and videos of Democrats in other states storming their own respective

State Capitol buildings and occupying it for days on end. That doesn't matter you we threatened their

Source of power and that's why they hate it so much Yeah, I Agree, I agree

All right, that was great input there let's move on one day

January 7th Facebook banned President Donald Trump indefinitely from the social media platform

Chris what would you like to say about that? Oh man, I Do find it fascinating that that technology and the private sector corporations are

Actively working to undermine the very rights that we have as citizens of the

United States You have the right to freedom of speech. Yes, but Facebook and Twitter said no, no, no.

No, you don't have freedom of speech. You have the freedom to say what we approve of And so you're gonna note then that that that certain speech is now

Considered forbidden and is actively policed by our big technological social media corporations

Which means we're already living in a soft form of totalitarianism and it's not the government that's enforcing it it's corporations in the private sector and this is a very terrifying thing because There you know at this point the things that we've relied on for public discourse conversation

For freedom of religion the ability to preach the gospel to call sin sin

You can do that I can do that at Kong's binger but certain sins if I call them sins on Facebook or Twitter that the

I'll be banned for life, you know in those things and so this should get everybody to wake up to the fact that Totalitarianism is not out there somewhere.

It's already here And it's the private sector that is going to Continue to lead the way towards it and if we don't turn things around then the government is gonna fall and we're gonna lose all of these rights that we've been been endowed with and and Given by the founders of the

United States if I can piggyback off that for just one second Um, so you talked about you said that the corporations are the ones censoring people

That is correct and you say it's not government with the the terminology that people on alt -tech are using is that these these government these

Big tech companies are government adjacent Because they are working in colluding with the politicians in order to be able to police speech that they don't like mind you

It's only swinging one way So they're only and and the thing is that the left will say oh my goodness Or terrible people but you know

They're constantly lobbying to have freedom of speech squelch on on online and all that kind of junk, too

So the thing is is that it's okay when they do it, but if if any if anything goes back the other direction

It's like oh set the clocks back to 1883 You're a big meanie

Do you You hurt my feet stop it but the the

The definition of fascism that the left likes to throw around is where it's Corporations and the state merging together to control the populace

What do you think they're doing? Man I've never heard of a point in history where the good where the bad guys

Were the ones that were advocating for freedom of speech for people to be

Arming themselves against those who would that would hurt them those that's not the rhetoric of the bad guys.

I've never heard of that All right, let's move forward there's more

The u .s. On February 2nd the u .s. Senate confirmed Pete Buttigieg Buttigieg I guess that's how it says

Pete Buttigieg as the transportation secretary making him the u .s. Is first openly gay cabinet secretary

Okay It's it's almost It's almost as though it leaves you speechless for just a moment.

It makes you gasp and wonder and it's just like the Who is it the director of health?

That's a dude that thinks he's a woman You want that's somebody you want working on your your child when they're sick, right

I find this Far more egregious Because it's someone who's like, oh, yes,

I'm an expert in these things and in health I'm sorry, but mental health is one of the things you're obviously not an expert in and that's objective

You know, you're not allowed to say that Yeah, so so where I would go with this is

Let's talk about the the rise of lawlessness. What what you're describing and these little mile markers from the first quarter of 2021 are clear indicators of the rise of lawlessness the abandonment of the of the morality that God has put into the hearts of every human being and then is actually chronicled and written about for us in Scripture in the

Ten Commandments and And here's where it kind of gets interesting is is that I lay

Much of the blame for where we are going in the increase of lawlessness on the church

And let me explain why and you're gonna have a little bit in history here to kind of make the case but the idea then is is that with the

Publishing of the origin of species charles darwin's book back in the 1800s Uh, there was this, you know, absolute terrifying walking off the battlefield of the field of ideas by many pastors and Seminaries started making the switch to basically saying

Going from saying the bible is the inerrant inspired infallible word of god and are the authority for all doctrine in the church to now saying

Well, we have to stay what's true. And so it's genesis one is no longer

Real history. We can't trust it. And so science has undermined all of this and that really opens the door outright uh barn doors in this way of this flood of liberalism of people trying to rescue christianity from uh from being irrelevant because of you know, so -called scientific discoveries, but the problem is is that Evolutionary theory and all of the science behind it is garbage

It's it's absolute You know it it's a cesspool of slimy ideas that cannot actually be

Validated from real science and now we live in the day where we can actually look at the genetic code and geneticists are saying

Listen that that uh that the origin of species things it ain't jiving with what we're seeing all the way down in the dna

But but it's already too late So what's happened is is that in the last 150 years you've had entire denominations

Denominations taken over by people who are rescuing christianity from itself and deny

The uh that the what the scriptures say are true and as a result of that they've reworked christianity

Into some kind of a social justice do good kind of message, but christ in him crucified for our sins bodily raised from the grave

Jesus actually affirming the genesis account of our creation and that we were created Male and female that's all out the window.

And so what's happened is is that people are not They're not being confronted with their sins

They're not hearing about christ in him crucified for their sins and here's the thing every single child born

On planet earth. They are already conceived and born in sin They don't come out as a blank slate or as switzerland morally

They come out under the dominion of darkness and if we're not out there reaching them with the gospel then what

Here is just the increasing Percentage of people who are complete heathens and pagans who've never even heard the truth and a lot of them

Unfortunately attend churches and so it's it's a it's a scary situation So, you know these little high water marks that you're seeing and the increase of lawlessness it's only going to get worse as long as the christian church continues to put up with these

Liberal false teachers and the crazy charismatic false prophets and apostles

Uh, because they're not pointing people to jesus. They're pointing people into the abyss Amen.

Amen, chris. Actually, um j. Gresham machen 1923 wrote christianity and the rise of liberalism

I'll quote this the rise of this modern naturalistic liberalism has not come by chance

But has been occasioned by important changes which have recently taken place in the conditions of life the past 100 years and this was written 1923

He said the past 100 years have witnessed the beginning of a new era in human history

Which may conceivably be regretted amen, but certainly cannot be ignored by the most obstinate conservatism

The change is not something that lies beneath the surface and might be visible only to the discerning eye

On the contrary it forces itself upon the attention of the plain man at a hundred points

Yeah, it is it is manifestly evident I agree.

I agree So march 2nd the estate of dr.

Seuss announced That six of the author's books will no longer be published due to Racist and offensive imagery

All right, so there's a couple of there's a couple of things about that particular story that some people have gotten wrong

Uh for starters those particular books hadn't actually been in print in years

Um, they hadn't like, you know, the dr Seuss like, you know a state or whatever they haven't it's been a very long time since they published those books talked about them anything like that and they're and they just I don't know came up for woke virtue single points to say we're not going to do this anymore because they're offensive and everyone like, you know, then everyone on the right lost their mind everyone on the left cheered and It became a you know, just ball of misery.

Um but also but ultimately what this boils down to is, uh, it's very much like 1984 with revising history um

If we we you know, if we can't learn from our own past then we're doomed to repeat it

And so what they're doing is they're just speeding up the process like oh, we're not gonna let you learn from the past We're just gonna delete it the stuff that we don't like and just ensure that it's gonna all happen again

Yeah, the other aspect of this is uh is a complete lack of appreciation

For the boldness that dr. Seuss had in his lifetime. I mean, uh, you know horton

Here's a who a person is a person no matter how small and then yordle the turtle was his uh, his swipe at adolf hitler and and so to say that he was some kind of you know, uh

Racist that you know kind of inferring that you know, you know, he secretly was a member of the klu klux klan

That's just belogna. It's it's bovine Skeptology and and it does not do him justice

At all and uh, he was the farthest thing from a real racist uh, and uh, some of his artwork reflected basically, uh, the the united states of the time that he was uh publishing

And uh, and it was a reflection of the culture of the of the moment But uh, that doesn't mean that he somehow was an advocate for you know, making

People of color less human or something like that far from it He was an outspoken advocate for human rights regardless of your race or color or ethnicity

And by and his artwork and his storytelling by comparison to what was considered fine by that particular time and day was

Far more tame and far less offensive than a majority of the stuff that was coming out around the time so it's you know it's mostly if anything else, it's a smear campaign to Um destroy someone's destroy.

Dr. Seuss's reputation more than anything else Yeah, so so much there's so many things that he that he did right that were so good and objectively

Moral, uh with horton hers who being basically a allegory for abortion in some ways Um, you know that one.

I didn't know that Yeah, yeah. No, it's like, you know There it's the tiny little speck that it that has life and he wants to defend it and protect it you know people have used that as a way with which to um fight against the rhetoric of abortion and the leftists just Cannot stand it.

They get so mad so If we can't we can't destroy his books like we can't destroy all of his books

Well, let's destroy his reputation so no one will ever want to read from him ever again Yeah, and like um and chris you had mentioned it

About that book being a reflection of the nature or the the culture around him and I think that's one of the uh again going back to the the liberal

Uh ever moving goal post the the subjective viewpoint that the liberal world tends to have rather than the objective standpoint we see that in the in the uh

With the in the result of the uh, the books that are coming out now The book even the children's books that are written.

There are so many children's books that are progressing or that are uh professing and pushing the idea of Uh gender neutral right the the idea of homosexuality being acceptable uh, the two mommies or the two daddies, um

And and they completely ignore Not not not just the theology, but they completely ignore the science biology

Yeah I don't know how anybody who you know can make an appeal to science and say that somehow gender is a social construct

I mean Back back when uh back when I was born and back when my kids were born

First thing the doctor announced as soon as you could see what the child was It's a boy or it's a girl and nobody sat there and went.

How do you know that? Are you sure? you know, it's even it's even a little worse than that because um, you say that you know, what a what gender a person is but because of a

A psychologist who uh performed horror of horrifying. Um Experiments with children back.

I think in like the 60s or 70s the idea that gender as a word actually is not

Interlinked with biology anymore. It's actually gender is the outward expression Of a person and it's not has nothing to do with the actual sex of a person and those are some of the um semantics

Semantic arguments that the left has made to literally dance around the issue and to make certain that everyone's confused yeah, and basically

I see this then as just a Telltale sign of just how deep our rebellion against god is that uh in in listening to the devil

Coming under the dominion of darkness being born dead and trespasses and sins and and satan being our daddy uh that uh

Satan can't stand the truth And so and we're not talking about just some truth.

We're talking about any truth two plus two equals four That's got to go. That's racist Um, and the idea that god created us male and female that's got to go too

And so at this point, you know, this just speaks to the absolute insanity of rebellion against god because That rebellion makes it so that you deny

Reality itself and I refuse to acknowledge that I was created male.

So i'm going to say i'm a You know, no, you're not In good luck explaining that to god on the day

And one of the one of the really really nasty things about the whole um meeting god on the last day

Is that all of these people that have mutilated themselves to be what they believe that they should be

They're going to be resurrected in the bodies that god made for them not the ones they made Yeah, that's absolutely true.

And the and the other bit is is that All these pastors and pastrix's there's no such thing by the way

God affirms you in this stuff. They're going to have a lot of explaining to do Oh, not only jesus, but also the people they deceive with these lies

Not only do they affirm them, but they do entire re -baptism ceremonies to baptize them in their new name and new identity

Which is just wretch worthy Yeah Which which?

It's absolutely I agree 110 there which leads us into the next section here.

Um, the religion part of the show, right? the uh It's a really dangerous part now that we've alienated everybody, you know, that's right

Right Uh, the the uh, the expected part, uh is to understand and to realize and to know the reasonable part is to know that the world is doomed

Uh, the sad reality is because so few of the religious or the church world is so In intermingled and so mixed up with these ideologies and so letting it come into the church

That the church is becoming we'll use the word again This will be the third time to between us all here that we've used it assessable.

It has become assessable absolutely the only in Like that quote paul washer stated that the church is not weak because of politics

The church is weak because the men of god I will go on record as saying this publicly because the majority of the and i'm just going to Pigeonhole the men here because that's that's who's supposed to be in the pulpit the men of god aren't born again

I I believe that they believed a lie and that they're leading people into into that lie that they believe and never having

Experienced the new birth itself being born again being made a new creature Yeah, I mean and christ says to folks like that, you know, did we not prophesy in your name?

Did we not cast out? Jesus I never knew you never You know, and you know, and and so don't sit here and tell me how christian you are while you're out there basically, you know affirming all of the morals of the world and Absolutely waging war against any man who would preach the truth of what's right and wrong from scripture

You're you're not doing god's work when you do that. You're you're doing the devils. Yeah, there doesn't seem to be any level of Scarcity when it comes to bravery against those preaching the truth

You know like those who are preaching falsely. Everyone's like, oh, oh, I can't touch that. I'm, sorry I might

I might cause offense but if somebody's out there preaching the preaching the the truth, they're like Kill him murder him

Into the gas station they watch the whole thing blow up in a giant conflagration kill him i'm, i'm pretty sure that the uh, the uh,

The great theologian nacho libre summed it up pretty good i'm a little concerned right now about your salvation and stuff

That that that that would have to be the one of the most accurate

Theologically true statements toward the church world today i'm kind of worried about or i'm kind of worried about your salvation

I'm telling you right now. There are text messages flying and people going cancel cancel

Who to write an angry letter to now No Well, I'll tell you what if if if you'll clap help me be platformed i'll help you be platformed and YouTube kicks us off.

We'll help each other. We'll promote the gospel together All right, so the the ed lit and plagiarism scandal

We're just going to zoom through these because we want to get to the scripture text. It's the most important part I know we've been a while on here but the ed lit and plagiarism scandal, um good or bad chris

Horrifying Absolutely horrifying i'm not even a baptist and it's like i'm looking at you guys going

Do you guys not have any standards anymore? You know, I mean what is going on here?

I mean it is We had in the american association of lutheran churches we had the presiding pastor of our denomination caught uh

In plagiarism and he got canned he got sacked and he should have been all right

So this was several years back that before dr. Lines Listen plagiarism isn't a small thing.

It's a huge thing and it shows it shows that a pastor isn't doing his job

Job of pastors to preach the word which means he's going to have to study which means he's going to have to actually

Work through a biblical text and have it work through him first god the holy spirit convicting him of his own sin

So that he can actually preach the text When you plagiarizing You're running down the rails of somebody else's track and and i'm sorry

But there are college students who are no longer college students for plagiarism

Why on earth do we have less of a standard in the church, this is ridiculous There is only one type of plagiarism

There is only one type of plagiarism that's Allowed at all whatsoever and my dad is he's constantly a guilty of it like every week.

He only plagiarizes the scriptures Hey, man Go back and listen to my sermons like like 60 70 percent of my sermon is me reading out biblical text

That's what that's what biblical preaching is we don't have our own message to proclaim we've got the word of god

There is nothing better. That's right You got all these pastors and all these churches. They're not doing expository exegetical preaching any anymore.

I had I've had a parishioner tell me that they describe what they hear in those other churches. They call it suppository preaching so There's only one joke there's only one joke

Oh Well, uh That's the truth. So yeah, i'll be and I agree 100 they were there with what you said

So, uh the next thing we're just gonna touch on I had some video prepared, but we're not going to go into the video

But we will just touch on it verbally, uh the continual movement toward wokeness within many churches

And I wanted to take a moment to thank god for high profile preachers like phil johnson Who calls out people from he from his own circles?

Yeah From his own circles that are guilty of this garbage So, um, we were going to play a short clip from the 2019 shepherds conference folks can uh, if you just google 2019 shepherds conference or youtube it

It's about an hour long q a phil johnson Shoots straight.

I mean straight. Yeah at his fellow brothers in christ. They're on the stage

There's it gets heated at points uh, it does get a little challenging macarthur will jump in to kind of kind of calm things down for a moment, but uh, he he makes some very

Pointed and important statements and questions and the guys

Now by the way, i'm not southern baptist I know ed litany is right so i'm not southern baptist i'm reformed baptist.

Um, but Um those reformed guys like ligan duncan and mark deaver they they are

They are tiptoeing. They are tiptoeing through the issue of wokeness And they're going back to worldly secular arguments to defend themselves rather than going to the scripture itself

So again, here that's what is it at the at the at its core Wokeness is a breaking of the commandment.

You will not bear false witness against your neighbor And the problem is is that this false narrative that goes with wokeness that somehow uh, the united states was founded on racism for the purpose of perpetuating racism and that this is systemic and that uh,

You know all this kind of nonsense. It's a breaking of that commandment And uh, you know and what it ends up doing is is that it makes us look at people

Uh and say just by their by their skin color their age or their sex

That they are racist and they don't even know it Um, but the problem is is that you know

The scriptures have an actual high threshold for establishing a charge against a person and That is is that you have to establish a charge with witnesses

And this is just lazy nonsense In fact, it's this kind of false narrative that led to the holocaust because there were you know

The nazis were masters at blaming those rascally jews, this is the way they talk about them

They are the ones manipulating the the financial system. They're the bankers who are putting us in misery

They're the reasons why all this is going on and you know, the average jew is sitting there going nobody's gonna believe this stuff

This is just nuts. This is crazy And then they were and then were you know trained off to the uh, the gas chambers

The the issue is is that wokeness somehow makes it so that you don't even have to Establish a charge you can just look at a person and look at their demographic and know that they are actually a racist and that's

I'm, sorry, but that's the slander highest degree also wokeness is a convergence of other

Sins as well. So not only is it about slander, but it's also about um stealing theft um because It the idea of wokeness is built upon social marxism or marxist ideology socialism

Where it it creates different people groups based upon their economic circumstances

Such as the bourgeoisie versus the proletariat the bourgeoisie being the people the haves the proletariat being the have -nots

The rich before like hey, you don't have things because that person has things

So you should take things from that person because they owe it to you And but so the thing is is that in the west we you know capitalism people are like hey

I can just build wealth myself. I can make something and I can I can earn things and so the socialists like no

No, what do I do? What do I do to make it so that like I can create division again and cause the whole system to collapse

So it can build the marxist utopia race Like we can say you can say look at all these poor black people.

They don't have money Look at all these rich white people. They have money which means that there's a there's a divide that's racial and that like, you know

Racism was is a thing. Um slavery was a thing There's still some effects of that that is felt in today's society.

But the thing is is that the law doesn't usually Uphold slavery we we got rid of a lot of that with the civil war with um dumping the jim crow laws and stuff like that and we and with the um uh the civil rights act which no

Democrat voted for by the way, and there was no flipping of the parties There wasn't like democrats like magically we're republicans now and the republicans are so So So the thing is that you know, so republicans will guess we will fight for freedoms and then the democrats like no not freedoms

No, we can't have you have freedoms. And then what are we going to do now? How lockdowns? Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah and and And probably the more the broadest scope

I would say it's just an outright denial That's the root of the sin in general, it's the outright denial of the authority in the

Sufficiency of the scripture itself. I'm gonna bring up. Uh, let's let's bring up some scripture here for just a moment

Um, actually if I can figure out How to do this, there we go so romans 1 18 right for the wrath of god is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men

Who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth? For what can be known about god is plain to them because god has shown it to them

For his invisible attributes namely his eternal power and his divine nature have been clearly perceived

Ever since the creation of the world in the things that had been made so it's been clear

So they are without excuse for although they knew god they did not honor him as god or give thanks to him

But they became futile in their thinking and their foolish hearts were darkened Claiming to be wise they became fools and they exchanged the glory of the immortal god for images resembling mortal man

Therefore god gave them up in the lust of their heart to impurity to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves

Because they exchanged the truth about god for a lie And worshiped and served the creature rather than the creator who is blessed forever

And it the scripture goes on for this reason god gave them up to dishonorable passions For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature

And the men likewise gave up their natural relations with women and were consumed with passion one for another

Men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty of their error

And since they did not see fit to acknowledge god God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done

They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness evil covetousness malice

They're full of envy murder strife deceit maliciousness They are gossips slanderers haters of god.

They're insolent haughty boastful inventors of evil disobedient to parents foolish faithless heartless ruthless

They though they know god's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die

They not only do them but they give approval to those who practice them And of course the apostle paul leaves it here under inspiration of the scripture.

Therefore you have no excuse That is a sad reality there. There is no excuse

For for them on the day of judgment to be able to stand well god. I did not know god

I was not taught this does not nature the scriptures does the scripture says that does not nature itself teach us these things, right?

So we have that And you'll note then that uh liberal progressives Apparently theology and christianity is progressing the world that we live in is the re the result of their so -called progress, right?

And when you read romans one the progress that we're making is not forward. It's backwards into the pit

Uh, it's it's not it's not progress towards godliness. It is it is progress in the futility

And the debased mind and the things that ought not to be done. This is a result of the abandonment

Of of the worship of the one true god and god says you don't want to worship me fine

You go right ahead and have it your way, but i'm going to make things worse for you. And you know, and You're you're the first of the later states going to be worse than when you first abandoned me and And all of that litany there, you know all the way to you know

Same -sex attraction all the way down to being gossips and slanderers and murderers Yeah, welcome to uh 21st century, uh, you know planet earth right now

Uh, this is a this is a progressive utopia but when you read the scriptures you sit there and go we are in a lot of trouble because God has uh sent this upon us as judgment for us rejecting him

Yes Yep, and there's a good there's a going to be a line drawn in the sand and this is good

This is going to be one of those times like canada on uh, what is it on the 16th?

The law goes into effect or has it already gone into effect? In canada where it's going to make it literally illegal for uh for a

Pastor a preacher or anyone to speak against conversion therapy Or anything of that nature for homosexuals speak in favor of it or to try to enact it.

Yeah They're making conversion therapy for for people who are willing and desiring

Um such such treatment to be barred from that Yep Yeah, good.

And so That leads us to the the most important section of the podcast today and and that is where we're gonna as we just began to look at some scripture, but to encourage our listeners to encourage

Those christians who are watching to to Don't lose heart

Don't grow weary the apostle paul wrote to the galatians Don't don't grow weary and well doing for in due season.

You will faint not the good news is this that As the scripture says in proverbs right a living dog is better than a dead lion

Something to that effect there right to him that is joined to all the living there is hope and our task

As christian men as christian women as christian boys and girls, we don't want to exclude them

We we want to let you know that the up it is of the utmost importance that you continue

To preach the gospel. What is the gospel? The gospel is set forth plainly in the text of scripture

It's not complicated. It's not difficult. You don't have to be a theologian The scripture teaches us in first corinthians 15 1 through 4 the gospel is simply this that christ died for our sins

We must every one of us recognize the fact as chris and josh stated earlier on in the podcast

That we are sinners. There are none good. There are

We're born in sin. We're shaped in iniquity. We are separated from god by our sins

There is no way to bridge that divide in and of ourselves But god sent his only begotten son to this world

That those who believe in him Might have everlasting life there is it seems like one of those guys out on the street,

I know what it may sound like but Friends, there is no hope outside of jesus christ

There is No salvation for the scripture tells us there is salvation in no other

For there is no other name given among men whereby we must be saved The hope of eternal life is in jesus christ.

You can't earn it. You can't work your way to be good enough to jesus christ All you can do is believe the gospel of jesus christ trust in what jesus christ has done that he died on the cross

Having lived a perfect sinless life perfectly fulfilling the law of god

Hanging on the cross between heaven and the earth taking upon himself the wrath of god

That nobody could take except for that. He be the god man He died was buried

On the third day he arose from the dead He ascended he ever he sits at the right hand of the throne of god where he ever lives

There is no dying again for him. He has done it. He's he's finished with that He's conquered death and he makes intercession for his saints so Believe the gospel today.

Do not lose heart. Do not lose hope Very quickly guys. Yeah We had three passages set aside.

I may have gotten a little close to the mic. Um, sorry if I spit on you all Uh, um

That's the uh, that's the that's that's that's just me, but I can't

I can't help it. I can't help but Uh be enthusiastic and be excited About the gospel of jesus christ

It's the best thing that this where it's the best news that this world has ever heard And it's the only news that is going to save men and women

So no matter how bad things get go ahead Yes, and here's the and here's the other bit of this is that in christ everybody who's in christ, uh

Even though you die yet Shall you live christ has promised all whom he's forgiven that whom he has regenerated through the powerful working of the holy spirit

That he has promised them a new heavens and a new earth And when you read the scriptures, you know,

I I I use this in my sermon yesterday every attempt that the devil

Engaged in to try to destroy christ either before by killing his uh, His relatives or trying to kill him directly after the birth of christ

Uh, and now a waging war against the saints, you know read the the tail end of revelation chapter 12

The devil is like wily coyote. He is the most inept You know enemy ever he loses every single battle

Spectacularly and still keeps coming at us. You have nothing to fear of the devil So some if somebody's threatening you and the devil's raging at you just sit there and go meep meep and get back

In the gospel, you don't have anything to worry about christ has got your back That's right

And it should be a privilege. It should be a privilege for us to suffer for christ and and another another thing that's for for the hope of men in That are preaching the gospel it we should count it a privilege to suffer for christ

I mean for crying out loud men went to to the stake and were burned for the gospel of jesus christ

Right in fact peter if peter in first peter four even he even says rejoice

He says amen when the fiery trial comes not if when it does when it shows up rejoice that you get to participate

In the sufferings of christ, how can we do that? Because here's the thing jesus told us that would happen.

The apostles told us what happened the prophets told us that would happen Experience it too.

And here's the thing when that fiery trial comes for you. You sit there and go The word of god is true man.

God don't lie and You are blessed so just say amen

You believe in jesus. I kill you you go go for it, dude Oh, no, don't send me to jesus.

No The old the old country preachers I grew I grew up with I started to say

I growed up with it tells you can tell where i'm at where i'm from When I say and I talk bad english, but uh, you know

One old preacher says this hallelujah. Anyhow, right if I live hallelujah

Anyhow, if I die hallelujah anyhow because i'm going to be with the lord Yeah, look look in the early part of acts,

I mean the first time that peter and john were actually beaten uh for preaching christ, they left the prison rejoicing

That they had been found worthy to suffer shame for the name of christ. They're sitting going We got beaten

I need medical attention, you know They were rejoicing, you know

Amen This tells you that with each of the persecutions that they experienced that was a sign to them that the words that christ had told them

Were true that he he can see the beginning from the end And so we don't have anything to worry about the devil, which is one of the reasons why in the end of revelation

Uh in the list of people who end up in the lake of fire at the top of the list are the cowardly Okay, if you're afraid of a seven -headed red dragon, come on.

It's just it's just You know, you got nothing to fear from that guy because christ already defeated him, you know

It's almost as if the scripture says in the in another place right all that live godly in christ jesus

Might suffer persecution. No Will will suffer persecution Exactly, and when you do you sit there and go.

Oh jesus got it, right? Wow. God's word can't be broken Anyway right again

Well guys, do you want do you want to go through the daniel matthew and uh, Thessalonian text we've uh, we've uh, we pretty much appreciate been preaching the gospel last few minutes here.

Yeah. Yeah Because you know, I love your show notes because you talked about you know, the three passages of scripture

Uh daniel chapter three, which is so relevant because that's a nebuchadnezzar and shadrach meshach and abednego but um, what

I would what I would note here is is that The those fellows they refused to bend the knee they refused to bend the knee to that, uh to that idol and uh, and and here's the reason being they

Absolutely trusted in god and they were threatened with the fiery furnace But I would like I would like to point this out.

These men didn't act presumptuously. They didn't decree and declare Well, we decree and declare that your fiery furnace ain't gonna touch us, you know instead what do they do?

They said even if we die, you know god is able to save us But even if we die, we're not going to bow to your idol and who shows up jesus himself

I love the confession That nebuchadnezzar gives at the end of this text because he says did we not throw three into the fiery furnace?

How is it that there's four and one of them looks like the son of the gods, right? You know, jesus shows up so You know, you know so in the midst of all this wokeness and suffering that we're experiencing as with the rise of marxism and the

Falling apart of our republic, you know, even if you lose your life Don't worry christ has already saved you from the fiery furnace of hell

You know, yeah, I mean it just goes to show nebuchadnezzar didn't actually have any authority or power unless God himself gave it to him because The the threat was and it worshiped me or i'm going to throw you into hell

You know the the fiery furnace the pit like the the lake of fire if you will and they're like nah

Jesus jesus has got us. We're good. We're good. You don't have that kind of power and authority It's like no throw you in there anyway, and they're just they're sitting there dancing around with jesus and he just goes

What do you mean you're not burning and dying you're supposed to be burning in death here But they're like this is what I specifically ordered what happened

Uh -huh Yeah, and it's and it's just standing for the devil. The devil doesn't have that authority

Exactly. And here's the other bit the reason why communists hate Christians is because jesus is king of kings and lord of lords

Which means he's king over them and they they want the state to be worshipped the state to be feared

And for everybody believe that all of their rights come from the state but lonely they all come from christ, right?

It's it and when it comes to communism or socialism or authoritarian totalitarian dictatorships and stuff like that You cannot control a people that do not believe that you are the highest

That you're that you're the highest authority in the universe if they believe that it's god Then they're not going to listen to you that you can't control them.

They're already dead. They know that you can't kill them It's like and so that's what they fear the most that they must squelch it with atheism and death and morbidity

Yeah So so I I would you all be in agreement with the statement this that if if churches if preachers pastors would simply

Proclaim the sovereignty of god and the gospel of jesus christ if if if we just focused on that weekend and week out

Would that not? I would say I don't know. I don't know Time but i'll throw a number out there within a year if every man of god

That is a man of god that stands in the pulpit and preaches just preach on the sovereignty of god in the gospel of jesus christ

Imagine the change that would take place within a year Yeah churches would shrink No doubt.

Oh, yeah, that'd be the first thing like the like the amount of people that would no longer be christian would be increased exponentially exactly

Unfortunately, I know Over the years that i've been doing fighting for the faith as a podcast and the youtube channel

I've received many emails from men who've been kicked out of churches as pastors for doing exactly what you were proposing uh, because uh, you know

People who go to those types of churches, they're not there to hear about jesus. They're not there to be told they're sinners

They're not there to hear about christ and his saving office. Uh, they're basically there because it's a country club

It's it's like the kiwanis or something like this and they want to be told that they're basically good people And be prompted to be even a little bit better, you know, and maybe keep their new year's commitment in new year's, uh,

You know resolution like this and so I know many a pastor who have lost their pulpit by preaching christ

Uh, but it's got to be done. Anyway, the best way I can put it Uh, you know, so if if it means your job, don't worry.

Jesus got your back man You know, you we pray for daily bread. He's not going to uh to leave you penniless and without the ability to feed your family but uh

Preach the gospel and and you know, let the chips fall where they may but the part of the reason why we're in the mess that we're in is because uh

Pastors have listened to the threats of the devil and I know several pastors who have said to me privately

I I can't do that because if I do that i'll lose my job And my response is that then lose it

Amen, amen preach christ or get out of the pulpit exactly

Well guys this has been wonderful To have you on here. I appreciate y 'all's honesty your candidness

Your faithfulness more than anything. I appreciate y 'all's faithfulness to the scripture itself.

You all have demonstrated this throughout the years and There are not a lot of folks that we can point

Uh our friends and family and and even lost people toward That it's sad to say there's not a lot of folks that I trust that I know in the public world that I would point folks to but I would definitely point them to you all so Thank you all for your faithfulness

Thank you. Thank you for having us on Chris, would you like to close us out by proclaiming the gospel one more time?

Sure, absolutely so we just got through christmas and christmas is this wonderful amazing thing because God himself rather than giving us what we deserve because we all rebelled against god

We've sinned against god and thought word deed by the things we've done by the things that we haven't done

And god in his great love and mercy rather than sending us to hell. He takes on human flesh and jesus himself

Keeps the law of god perfectly in your place in mind And what he ends up doing that babe of bethlehem that we just celebrated his birth

That babe of bethlehem. He grows he grows in wisdom and in strength and he then

He is baptized by john the baptist and god the father says of jesus.

This is my son in whom I am Well, please my only my beloved son. He then takes on the saving office as jesus the messiah

He lives perfectly he conquers the devil is tempted in every way that you and I are tempted and yet is without sin and then as isaiah says

God lays on him the iniquity of us all he is pierced for our transgressions bruised for your iniquities and mine

And he suffers bleeds dies experiences the wrath of god in our place

And then rises victorious from the grave on the third day That same jesus told his apostles to go out and tell everybody the good news that in him is the forgiveness of sins

You and I all know that the big problem that we have in life Is that we all have to stand before god someday and I know that many of you have anxiety about it and you should

Because you are not good You have not kept god's law perfectly and you're always wondering

Am I ever going to be able to know whether I can be saved because i'm trying so hard You're if you're trying hard to be saved you're doing it wrong christ did it for you

Repent believe the good news trust in christ and you will live.

This is what he has promised us So hear this good news christ has died for your sins

He is risen from the grave bodily on the third day for your transgressions and for your salvation

In him is life and life eternal and he is the only person who can give you this salvation

He gives it because of his great love his mercy and his grace for god So loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whoever including you believe in him

Will not perish but have eternal life This is the gift of christmas that god gives us each and every day as long as it's today

And this is the age of grace because when he returns in glory Well, the age of grace is over And so today is the day of salvation repent and believe in christ amen guys