July 14, 2020 Show with Matt Tarr on “The Challenges of the Northeast United States as a Mission Field for a Flourishing Church”

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Proverbs chapter 27 verse 17 tells us iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. Matthew Henry said that in this passage, we are cautioned to take heed with whom we converse and directed to have in view in conversation to make one another wiser and better.

It is our hope that this goal will be accomplished over the next two hours, and we hope to hear from you, the listener, with your own questions. And now here's your host, Chris Arnzen.

Good afternoon, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, Lake City, Florida, and the rest of humanity living on the planet Earth who are listening via live streaming at ironsharpensironradio .com. This is Chris Arnzen, your host of Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, wishing you all a happy Tuesday on this 14th day of July 2020.

And I am so thrilled to be back on the air live. This is the first live program of July 2020, and the reason for that is that many of you know, and many of you do not know, I'm assuming, that I recently had a scare, a health scare.

I was not feeling myself, in fact hadn't been for several weeks, and I was feeling sluggish and winded easily and out of breath and lost my appetite, which is a real red flag for anybody who knows me.

And my dear friend Susan, who led me to Christ in the 1980s, and her son Joe, they noticed that there was something not quite right, and they kept urging me, and in fact badgering me, to go to the doctor for an exam.

And I finally acquiesced, and Joe took me to a clinic, and the doctor there, after taking an EKG, said, you need to be rushed to the emergency room at Carlisle Hospital. There is something not quite right with your heart.

You've got to have some more detailed tests done. And so I obviously obeyed those orders and had a catheterization process or procedure on my heart. It was determined that my heart was very weak, and there was fluid in my heart and lungs and in my legs, and that was the result of congestive heart failure.

Thankfully, thanks be to God, I did not need any kind of surgical procedure. It was determined that medication and a diet change to low-sodium, low-carb meals was all that would be required at this time.

And I'm already on that, and unfortunately, while there I was also diagnosed with diabetes, which I had never known that I had. I have no idea how long I've had it, but my dad and his mother both had diabetes, and at least one of my uncles on my father's side, maybe more, had diabetes.

So I am now among the family of diabetics in this world. Requiring that I take insulin shots every day. So I thank all of you who have been so encouraging to me, the hundreds of you that have been reaching out to me, both those that I know personally and those who are total strangers to me, who heard about this through my dear friend Mike Gaydosh, my very first pastor after becoming a born-again believer, who was publicizing these events and requesting prayer for me.

On Facebook and other places. And I thank all of you who responded immediately with an outpouring of love and compassion and promises of prayer. And I cannot thank you more than I am able to say right now, and I don't have the words to thank you adequately for the love that you have demonstrated and so I appreciate your prayers for this new routine of life that I have to adjust to with medicine and diet.

And I am thrilled to be back on the air at the helm of Iron Trip and Zion Radio for a live broadcast. And today we have a first-time guest, Matt Tarr. Matt Tarr is pastor at High Point Baptist Church of Larksville, Pennsylvania, which is a church revitalization effort in northeastern Pennsylvania through the Grace Advance Ministry of John MacArthur.

Today we're going to be addressing the challenges of the Northeast United States as a mission field and for a flourishing church. We're also going to be announcing the Basics of Biblical Counseling Conference, which is a weekend conference for the church.

Next month here in Pennsylvania, and it's my honor and privilege to welcome you for the very first time ever to Iron Trip and Zion Radio, Pastor Matt Tarr.

Good to be on with you, and I'm glad to hear that.

Yeah, I appreciate that. And thanks again for my friend Susan and her son Joe, who very well may have saved my life through their badgering and pestering and insisting that I go to the doctor. As I have a feeling I would have held out for quite a longer period had they not done that.

But first of all, let's hear something about High Point Baptist Church.

...promising on divinity and our people have been, I figured, maybe 80, 90 percent of our unity and our love...

Amen.

Well, if anybody wants to find out more about High Point Baptist Church in Larksville, Pennsylvania, go to highpointbaptist .church. Highpointbaptist .church. And point is spelled the old-fashioned way with no e at the end.

Or maybe the e is the one that's the old-fashioned way, a really old-fashioned way. But highpointbaptist .church. And hopefully we will remember to repeat that information later on. One thing I failed to mention to you before the broadcast, Matt, is that here on Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, we have a tradition whenever we have a first-time guest, we like that guest to give a summary of their salvation testimony, which would include the type of religious atmosphere in which you were raised, if any, and the providential circumstances that our Sovereign Lord raised up in your life that drew you to himself and saved you.

Yeah, you know, I love church. You might say that I'm a third-generation Christian. And my dad served. That was my youth. He taught us to love Christ. Opportunities to serve. As far back as some can.

Read my Bible on my own. My philosophy of misogyny. As far as I was.

Praise God. And I had the privilege of interviewing Dr. MacArthur once. And I hope I get that opportunity again. This side of glory. I don't know if I'll be conducting interviews in glory. But I really hope I get another shot at having Dr. MacArthur on.

And he is certainly one of my modern-day heroes. I know that some Christians don't like us to use the word heroes. I don't find anything wrong with using the word heroes. And it's just an honest and, I think, healthy concept, as long as you don't turn your heroes into idols.

And I had the honor of meeting Dr. MacArthur at the last G3 conference face-to-face. That was the conference held last January in Atlanta, Georgia. And I was surprised. Pleasantly surprised. Thrilled, in fact, when I bumped into him in the lobby, which was a very providential occurrence in itself.

I had to go back to my room for something. And by the time I got out of the elevator, he walked out of a different elevator immediately after me. And I said, Dr. MacArthur, my name is Chris Arnzen. I have no idea if you remember me, but quite a number of years ago, I interviewed you on Iron Trip and Zion Radio.

And he immediately said, of course I remember you, Chris. I was shocked that he said that. And I am the very proud owner of a very wonderful commendation that he has written for Iron Trip and Zion Radio, which is one of my most prized possessions.

But today we are discussing, as I announced earlier, the theme, the challenges of the Northeast United States as a mission field and for a flourishing church. First of all, start off where why this specific topic was something burdening your heart that led you to want to discuss this today.

I know that the Northeast United States has a very, very different reputation than it had centuries ago in the 17th, 18th, and even 19th centuries. The Northeast United States might have even been considered, in fact, it certainly was considered in many ways a bastion of theological brilliance.

You had the Puritans flourishing in this area and other very solid, biblically faithful heirs of the Protestant Reformation. And the Northeast is now known as a theologically barren place. Of course, there are faithful churches still there, but many of the very same churches that were pastored by Puritans, even the one pastored by Jonathan Edwards himself, they have become apostate.

They have become promoters of hellish and evil and damnable beliefs and practices like homosexuality and abortion. And it is sadly a rare thing, it seems, to find a biblically faithful church. But if you could just pick up where I left off there.

Yes, so that is, and it's about that. When he becomes the president was established in response to Yale's defection. They had done the same thing as Harvard.

In fact, what we're going to do is pick up right where you left off of Princeton capitulating to liberalism, because we have to go to our first break right now. And if anybody would like to join us on the air with a question of your own, our email address is ChrisArnzen at gmail .com.

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We are going to be right back after these messages with more of our guest, Matt Tarr, and the subject at hand, the challenges of the Northeast United States as a mission field and for a flourishing church.

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Welcome back.

This is Chris Arnson. If you just tuned us in, our guest today for the entire program today is Matt Tarr. And Matt Tarr is the pastor of High Point Baptist Church, and that is in Larksville, Pennsylvania, a church revitalization effort in the northeastern Pennsylvania area through the Grace Advance Ministry of John MacArthur.

Today we are addressing the challenges of the northeast United States as a mission field for a flourishing church. And if you'd like to join us on the air, our email address is chrisarnson at gmail .com, chrisarnson at gmail .com.

And please give us your first name at least, your city and state, and your country of residence if you live outside the USA. Please only remain anonymous if your question involves a personal and private matter.

And we're also going to be announcing fairly shortly during this broadcast the Basics of Biblical Counseling conference, a weekend conference for the church next month here in Pennsylvania. Pastor Matt, right before we had to break for our first station break, you were talking about the diminishing of biblical truth or its hold to it by Princeton University, one time a bastion of theological truth, where giants of the faith, still highly revered by biblically sound men, once served on the faculty.

And you had men like B .B. Warfield and others. So tell us about this gradual slide into apostasy, basically, that was occurring.

Sure, yeah, you see Westminster, a lot of critics.

Right, I had long believed that mischaracterization of Jonathan Edwards.

Yeah, I think it's hard to argue that point when we have a lot of his men. Later in his ministry, it's going to be a short sermon if you're reading your manuscript.

Yes, unfortunately, he is hallowed as a great hero of Christianity, perhaps especially by fundamentalists, who just have not really read much of what Finney taught, because if they knew that he was even more consumed by Pelagianism than the Roman Catholic Church is, I'm sure that they would be quick to abandon him as a hero.

But it's mind-boggling, and people as well-known and beloved as Billy Graham have written glowing things about him. And J .I. Packer wrote something wonderful in endorsing a work, I believe it was his autobiography, or at least a biography about him, or perhaps just a reprinting of his theology.

But anyway, it's a shame to see that so many people have been duped into thinking that he was among the best of the best as far as representations of Christianity.

And that's something that, because I'm not sure...

Well, we have to actually, I'm sorry it's been so fast, but we have to go to our midway break now, and so we'll have to pick up where we left off there. This is our longer than normal break, folks, so please be patient with us.

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We are excited to announce another new member of the Iron Sharpens Iron Radio advertising family. Banu Gadi, owner of three New York pharmacies, Lee's Drugs of Floral Park, Long Beach Chemists, and Prescription Center of Long Island in Hempstead.

Banu Gadi earned a doctorate in pharmacy degree and is very knowledgeable on the current coronavirus pandemic. Please contact Dr. Gadi so he and his expert staff can give you proper guidance amid all the contradictory confusion we are all hearing in the media.

To find the pharmacy nearest you, call 516 -354 -2000. That's 516 -354 -2000. Or order online at leesdrugsrx .com. That's L-E-E-S-drugsrx .com. Don't forget to ask about their discount generic drug program.