Matt Slick Bible Study, Phil 2b

What are you feeling wiped at least she's here that's good. All right. So I give it just a bit for people to start coming in. At 730 we're gonna go through Flipping we started flipping is to verse 12.

And we're gonna take a bit of a tangent inside of it because there's there's some peripheral things I want to go over so I don't know if we're gonna get through very much of the of the chapter and It worked out because my notes aren't that extensive right now.

I have them up through 17 and So they don't only get through five five verses but there's a lot to cover and so we'll be getting into that because we had a Unexpected Appointment, let's just say and so as life often is with us full of unexpected things.

Working Out Your Salvation in Philippians 2:12-13

So what we do now is we're gonna pray We can jump right into flipping is to 12 and see how things go. Lord Jesus, thank you for your grace your kindness your mercy. I asked Lord I Just asked that you would open up the word to us open up our minds and our hearts to receive the truth of who you Are what you have for us in your scriptures.

Thank you for giving them to us. Thank you for calling the Apostles and having them right what you would have them right so that we can benefit from it. I thank you and I ask the Lord that everyone here will be blessed and that those who hear and out there in the net Would also be blessed and that would only be by your grace.

We ask this Jesus and your precious wonderful and holy name. Amen. All right. All right. Here we go. We're just gonna jump right in so then my beloved just as you have always obeyed. Not as in my presence only but now much more in my absence work out your salvation.

With fear and trembling now, the next verse is worth looking at a little bit. Because it says for his God who is at work in you both to will and to work for his good pleasure. We tackle these verses separately, but they of course go together and I'm going to be Discussing heresies and stuff like that as well as Orthodox stuff now.

Excuse me, as you know. That I started doing apologetics not without any theological training whatsoever. I just started studying. I just started reading commentaries or reading books. Going out on the street talking to people.

Pierce my ear went to the beach talked to the punkers started a swap meet ministry went door-to-door put an ad in a paper. Just don't call this number, you know. Learn the truth about Mormonism Jehovah's Witness Christian science and unity call and then we had this number skinny and my roommate and I would alternate picking up the phone and we would.

You do this stuff. So I learned my theology on the streets. So to speak I learned by doing I learned by Being involved with things and then I would read because there were godly teachers. Mostly men and a few women that I would read.

That were just insightful and had great knowledge. I remember that in one job I had Where I was a mechanical draftsman back in I don't know 83 4 5 6 I could remember but I Remember having a commentary.

Sitting open, you know, you know what the book was open. It was down here about an arm's length of way on my table and I'd be drafting and writing doing plans and doing parts and stuff and I would read look down and read and then Get back to where my job was and I would focus on what I was supposed to do.

But I was reading remember when I started that same job that The engineer some of his name and what month and day and everything I started on but he went out to to the the factory floor in order to Fix something and I'd only been there an hour or two and he was training me about some stuff and while he was gone I pulled down the dictionary and looked up the word Jesus and God and Trinity and Bible and Scripture and salvation.

It was like oh, yeah. And I couldn't stop it was just a struggle and so I learned that way. And now, you know, I went to college been to seminary read a lot of stuff and I had a lot of popular to teach.

So when I read I'm telling you that is because this verse here is used by the Jehovah's Witnesses. I remember once going to a Kingdom Hall a Kingdom Hall, you know, I'd go in. I was kicked out of one once I didn't do anything wrong.

But they said you need to leave because I started asking difficult questions and they would ask me questions and I could answer them and then Ask him another question in return after five minutes of that time for you to leave.

Okay, and I would you know Anik has known many instances in our marriage where we've gone someplace that I got to talk to somebody about the Lord. I got it bad. I remember once we're going to sleep one night we're talking and I Said I don't think I'm gonna give up karma.

I'm gonna give up this. I'm gonna give up that and I remember her saying You know, you've got it bad. It's never gonna happen. I remember that I remember thinking she doesn't know what I'm talking about.

I am serious and I got upset with her. This is just no, I'm I know I know she don't you're never gonna give it up. You never would I remember that? She's right and Even on the way home from the hospital tonight for those who were listening We just we had to go there get something checked.

No big deal. Everything's fine. On the way back. I'm on the phone on a stream yard account. Teaching on women why women pastors are not biblical and women elders and stuff. I Love teaching the Word of God and it's an anointing from God.

It's I can't take any pleasure in it. I mean pleasure in it any Any Credit for it. It's only from God. It's only from God. So this verse in particular Work out your salvation with fear and trembling. Was a plaque inside of a kingdom hall and That's all that was written.

Work out your salvation with fear and trembling. Quote that I thought work out your salvation with fear and trembling. Look look look those Philippines to 12 I remember sitting there in their their building looking at it and Knowing what they teach about salvation.

We're gonna get into what they teach us mother stuff. Way to get into other things here in a bit. Okay, we are gonna get it with Mormons Jehovah's Witnesses Catholics Islam. They try and work their salvation as if they earn it as if they Yeah, they get it Through their faith and their works.

They think to work out your salvation means you work it to get it to achieve it to maintain it or to keep it. And you do not. To work out your salvation with fear and trembling means to manifest what is already there.

We're saved not because of our goodness, but because of God's goodness. He loves us not because of who we are. Because of who he is and he chose us from the foundation of the world Ephesians 1 for knowing everything about us now I am quite sure that neither none of us in this room would want every one of our sins suddenly put on a a Spreadsheet or something that was searchable by topics or either any of us could look and it's graded from one is not that bad of a sin 10 is really bad and You know, how many of us would want that?

There the answer of course is no. And yet God has chosen us knowing all of that. And it's just it's an amazing thing to think that he has loved us from the foundation of the world. Ephesians 1 for says in He chose us in him before the foundation of the world, which means his choosing is Eternal which means his thoughts for us are Infinite which means the time and the depth of his love for us is also infinite.

That his greatness and his love for us is completely because of him and not because of us. When it says work out your salvation, it means to accomplish further to work manifest it perfect it out. The fact of the regeneration the declaration of righteousness that you have.

That's what God has already given you now live it. That's what he's saying. We don't all do it, right? I mean amen across the board there. We all fail some more than others and We have somebody who likes it when I take a shot at him.

He just feels warmed and fuzzy all over because he has mental problems, but we put up with them. It was strange that about him. Around me. It is true about him. Oh, yeah now I got something else was getting in on it.

All right. He's smiling. It's all good. All right. That's how we love each other. We look man. We look we saw these are yeah, you're ugly, too. Yeah, whatever. So, um, I Often reflect on the depravity of my own heart.

There have been issues lately that I'm having to deal with that are a bit of a struggle and their sin and To deal with selfishness they deal with pride and stubbornness and they won't go away. They won't go away and so I pray and I confess them Lord.

Can you get rid of these out of my heart and the next day? The next day the next day. I'm amazed that he loves me. You know as I heard one person say I'm God. I'm glad that God predestined me from the foundation of the world because if he looked at me now, he wouldn't pick me.

You know, that's a true statement. So I want you to understand very clearly your salvation is not dependent upon your ability. But upon his not your work, but his not your goodness, but his. That is correct.

So this is why work out your salvation with fear and trembling. Live it. Express it. You fail in it, that's okay. We're human not that we want you to sin, but it's okay you're human. Let's pick up the pieces.

Let's keep going forward. Jesus loves you and he still does. We know that the Bible says I have to teach you this. I'll make sure you guys know. This is something that has to be preached to the Christians as well.

But Romans 3 28 says we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from the works of the law. Justifications a legal standing of righteousness before God. Just as if I'd never sinned justified. So justification deals with the law of God spoke.

Let there be light. He also spoke and said thou shalt not lie and Both are the reflections of his character and Jesus says in Matthew 12 34 out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. He speaks out of his character.

Let there be light. That's interesting and Jesus is that light and we're called the light and things like that because we're in Christ and We are to emulate This this law of Love the law of following Christ law of following God of loving God loving your neighbor.

But none of that is what justifies us now. We maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from the works of the law. Now in Deuteronomy 6 5 it says love the Lord to God with all your heart soul mind and strength.

Jesus quotes that in Matthew 22 37 in Leviticus 1918. Love your neighbor as yourself. Jesus quotes that in Matthew 22 39 just two verses later. And he says in verse 40 that in these two commandments is the summation of the whole law.

So the summation of the whole law is love God and love your neighbor. That's what the law ultimately is about because Jesus says so in this is the whole law prophets, okay. Now without the works of the law.

We maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from the works of the law. What are the works of the law loving God loving your neighbor. I Tell people you're justified without loving God without loving your neighbor.

You think I'm crazy? No, he's the love God. It's love your neighbor. In order to be Christian. Yes. Is this what you do to keep your Christianity? Then they start getting what I'm saying. That how you become a Christian by loving God loving your neighbor first.

Right, well, no. We do those things because we're Christians, right? Yes but you can't be saved without those in the sense that they're a result of the regenerative work of God and his Indwelling us but we're not saved because of them.

Because of us doing them. Like this is I'm standing against the idea of works righteousness. Which so many people in this have misused this verse. Philippians 2 13 work out your salvation with fear and trembling Jesus.

The Apostle says in Romans 4 1 what shall we say then that our father Abraham? According to the flesh is found for if Abraham was justified by works He has something to boast about but not before God.

For what is the scripture declare? Abraham believes God and was credited in his righteousness now to the one who does. The one who works his wage is not credited as a favor. But what is due but to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies in godly.

His faith is credited as righteousness. So Paul is teaching us that Justification is a legal standing before God and that is by faith not by anything else we do in combination. Because Romans 11 6 if it's by grace if it's by works, it's no longer by grace.

The cults the false religious people seek to Add-works to salvation they seek to add their sincerity. So I mentioned this a couple weeks ago or last week. It was I described in some detail the crucifixion of Jesus and the blood.

And I used this imagery a few days ago on the internet and more and more. The words are operating opening up for me to be able to teach praise God by his grace. And we got talking in one room about the issue of your works compared to Christ.

And I said I said the people I said what you're doing is you want to add your works to salvation? It says no, we don't these are the works of God. Which is what the next verse talks about. We'll get into all this.

I'm gonna explain a lot of stuff here. I say so you're telling me that the worst that God gives you to do and Your sincerity and all this stuff. That this combined with the sacrifice of correction or faith in him.

This will save you right? No. Yeah. Because you got to show him what you you know, you believe you show the works faith not works is dead. We'll get into that later. I'll say okay. So picture this As a picture you on your knees and your elbows your face near the ground and the dirt and it's wet.

It's filthy and You're crawling up this slope low grade hill. Where the cross is and there's a small stream of blood trickling down near where you're heading to. This is the place of the sacrifice. This is the place where the sacrifice of Jesus is acceptable to God and Our position is on our knees before him.

We don't have anything to Bring to that cross. We can't add our goodness to the cross we can't add our sincerity or our works and lift them up and put them on the cross with Christ and say these in Combination are what's acceptable to God the Father?

Because what they're doing it inadvertently. Instead of crawling their face on the ground. They're standing up walking up to the cross and then they're taking their good works and they're nailing on the cross and they're nailing their goodness and their sincerity in the cross and Saying all of this is what's acceptable to God for my salvation and They're saying that the work of Christ himself is not enough.

This is the heresy the damnable heresy. That's alive and well in the Christian Church as well as Mormonism. Jehovah's Witnesses Islam. Well, Islam doesn't believe in the crucifixion. We'll get to that but also Roman Catholicism Eastern Orthodoxy.

And that they teach your faith plus Your faith in in Christ and so verses like this work out your salvation with fear and trembling. Matt. You gotta understand you have to have these good works that you show before God or you can't be saved.

And nail those to the cross as well. I use that imagery for the first time like that I think it was first time or second time. I'm not sure in detail this week. People listened because we remember images we remember the filth of the ground and Dare, we even visualize that blood.

I Won't even look up further than that. I'm not worthy. And there's nothing I'm gonna add to that cross and he did everything and He loved me from forever ago. This is he loved all of us from forever ago and in so doing he decided to bear our sin in his body in the cross first Peter 2 24 and This is who he is.

This is what he did. That's what it says. Work out your salvation with fear and trembling. The fear and trembling is not that We are afraid of God because he can smack us down and send us to hell. That's not possible.

Now that we're in Christ. They go to John 6 37 through 40 and we realize there Jesus says all that the father has given him will come to him and all that have come to him. He will not cast out for the will of the fathers.

This is the will the father who sent me that all he's given me. I lose none, but raised up on the last day. So this is what Jesus says and Jesus cannot fail to do the will of the father. John 8 29 He always does well the father.

So we're secure in Christ. We have to be careful that we don't add our sincerity to that work. We're to be sincere. We have to be careful. We don't add our works in any way shape or form in fact. Years ago.

Years ago. Here's an example of sheer foolishness and sinfulness. Years ago some sins I was struggling with and would occasionally fail and What I should do is go to the cross and say Lord here I am again.

But no I didn't. No, I wasn't worthy to go to that cross so quickly. So what I did was I let myself feel guilty for two or three days before I went to the cross. Because I didn't make myself worthy. Enough to go to the cross I had to suffer so did this for a year or two and it was a mess of emotion and confusion until one day when I was you know, I can't go right now and talk to him because I'm so guilty and I do it was just like this light who just said Are you earning this you know sin deceives you and Someone who's trained should have known better.

But the fact is it is a deceptive thing in us. We've got to be very careful that we are completely relying on the on the cross of Christ. I'll tell you it wasn't till after I went I started going straight to the cross.

That there was victory because you know what we are arrogant down deep and we're foolish down deep and Though I like to joke about people and I can use you as an example. I got plenty of examples. Oh, man, I got plenty.

So I don't need to do much research on examples of failure and Yet Jesus loves me. Anyway This is how good he is. He's he's incredible. I Just three five as this He saved us not on the basis of deeds, which we have done in righteousness, but according to his mercy By the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit.

He saved us not on the basis of deeds Which we have done in righteousness. We're going to come back to that. Okay, Titus 3 5 is an important verse now. Doesn't James to tell us that we're to Have good works that it is not true that we're we're justified by faith alone.

I'm gonna read to you I'm gonna go through this. This is a side note Bible study on James 2. I know people are listening. They might have questions about this. What use is it my brethren if someone says he has faith, but he has no work.

Can that faith save him this James 2 14? So he's saying what Paul is saying of James is saying what use is it you say you have faith. But he has no works. Can that faith save him? It's a dead faith. It's what we call a sentia Ascension is mental ascent and we're gonna see that in James 2 19 you believe in God you do.

Well, the devil's both demons believe also. And what it's saying is they're aware of God's existence. They believe. But they have that faith, but it's not the faith that we think of as a Trusting dependence on God and that work of Christ.

They just are aware of his existence. That's the kind of faith that he's talking about here. That is dead. It's not the Christian faith verse 15 for brother or sisters without clothing and in need of daily food and one of you says to them go in peace be Warm to be filled and yet you do not give them what is necessary for their body.

What use is that? Even so faith if it has no works is dead being by itself. So you see if you say one thing and you don't live it. You're. You're a hypocrite. This is why it says in first John 2 for if you say, you know him and do not keep his commandments.

The truth is not in you and you're a liar if you say you're a Christian. Let's see it. Because that's how I will know that you are. That's how you will know that I am. You can't see into my heart. I can't see into your heart to be able to tell oh, yeah, that person's saved in My novel the influence we had angels that would go up to people.

It's a fiction novel. I wrote in Order to find out if they were a true Christian the angel would put their hand on the chest of the person. Oh. You could tell the indwelling presence of God Saved now, it's just a fiction Exercise it was just you know license.

But I loved that little Resemblance there, you know, they put a chest. It's not there. You could they could feel the presence of God. That's what true faith generates out of is a presence of God in us in the work of God.

He says someone way verse 18 is critical. But someone may well say you have faith and I have works show me your faith without the works. I will show you my faith by my works. This is the horizontal. It's not the vertical before God.

You believe that God is one you do. Well, the demons also believe in shudder. This is the kind of false faith. He's talking about. But are you willing willing to recognize you foolish? Fellow that faith without works is useless.

You say it. Let's see it. That's what he's saying. Was not our Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up Isaac. He's not talking about justification before God. But before people that we can know and others can know he was truly a man of God.

You see that faith was working with his works and as a result of the works faith was perfected and the scripture was fulfilled which Abraham believed God it was reckoned him as righteousness. The true belief has true works and it followed and that's why Abraham did what he did.

But God didn't need to see him do that to know that he was already justified. Errs are true believer. God knows everything it was done for our benefit. The typological representation of Abraham as the father Isaac as the son and the helper the Holy I mean as a Holy Spirit Eliezer the servant as they went up to the one hill the same hill where Jesus was crucified on many hundreds of years later and so You see the man is justified by works and not by faith alone.

So James is saying that but it's not before God this is an important tangent that a lot of people fail to understand and Need to be focused on. There are those however who? Seek to be justified by faith and works by faith and works now.

In Matthew 2 22 and 23 Matthew 7 22 and 23. Many will say to me on that on that day Lord Lord. Do we not prophesy in your name in your name for many miracles in your name cast out demons? He says and I'll say to them.

I never knew you get away from me you workers of iniquity. Now first John 3 4 says sin is breaking the law of God that's iniquity. So he says they're evildoers. And what they were doing on that day the day of judgment, which you can find in in first Corinthians 5 5 you can find and First Thessalonians 5 2 you can find varying verses.

We'll get into some stuff later. I talked about that day of judgment. What are they appealing to Lord Lord faith faith? Did we not do this and this and this in your name faith and works before him that God says get away from me.

You can also go to Luke 18 9 through 14. And I don't have it all memorized. But two men went up to the temple to pray. Jesus says one a Pharisee that are a tax gatherer. The Pharisee was thus praying to himself Lord.

I thank you, but I'm not like the unjust and the swindlers and I He says I pay tithes of everything I get Fast twice a week. He says I thank you for not making me like that tax gatherer over there. The tax gatherer wouldn't even look up to heaven was beating his own chest saying God be merciful to me the sinner not a sinner.

He said the sinner. There were two classes of sinners in the Jewish. Thinking back at that time. Mm-hmm. Sinners and tax gatherers tax gatherers of the Hebrews who spoke Hebrew and understood the language of Rome and understood the legal system of Rome as well as of of their own people and.

Then they would extort money. Out of their own people in order to get money for the Romans. You owe me $100. It says you owe Rome $100. Well adjust. You know work might be you pay me it right for a hundred and five.

I keep the five for my troubles. They're gonna make a living to understand that they might say you owe a hundred to Rome. Write a check for 300. And if you say no, I'll write down that you didn't get you didn't pay.

And they would do this kind of a thing and they were hated. Not all of them would do this, but they were hated because they were giving up There so to speak their citizenship with God to serve the enemy of God.

They were loathsome hated. The Pharisee on the other hand was a godly man who kept the law. Who did what was right before God and that's the one who was damned? And the one who was justified Jesus says he uses were justified is the Tax gatherer.

Who knew his guilt was so bad. He just said Lord be merciful to me the sinner. It's all he had. Jesus said I tell you that one went down justified. False religions always add something to Salvation. James 2 10 says whoever keeps the whole law yet stumbles at one point become guilty of all.

Yeah, I just do this one thing to be saved get baptized. It's just just one thing to get sick. I don't go to our see our rated movies. I just do this one thing. I don't drink. I do this one thing. I don't smoke or have a cigar.

I just do this one thing. Along with my relationship with God and that's how I'm saved. They're walking up to the cross and offering their little thing and it's loathsome it's vile to even imagine that Galatians 3 10 for as many as are the works of the law are under a curse for it is written.

Cursed is everyone who does not abide by all things written in the book of the law to perform them. You want to do one thing in the law? You got to do everything you want to be right before God by what you do then do Verse 13 for his God who is at work in you both to will and to work for his good pleasure.

God's at work in you. Or don't you understand people tell me this Matt you don't understand. Catholics will tell me this. I'll say you don't understand what you're talking about. They'll say look we're just doing the works that God has given us to do.

We're not doing it of our own. It's God's work in us. And I'll ask him a question. I'll say so. When you give to the poor I'd say this is one of the things you got to do to be saved works of charity and other things.

All right, is that you doing it or is that God doing it what's God doing it. I'll say so you didn't walk up with a check and give it to a person. You know it works for charity. He's supporting charity.

You didn't do that, right? It wasn't you that was God actually walking up writing the check. God was the one handing it to him. He wasn't you. No, man, you get it. It's it's it's so stupid. I Get this.

It's God working in us. I'll say I got that. So did. Was God the one walking up with that check and handing it or was it you. Because they do they don't think. You see if it's not you doing anything. Then you can't have any responsibility any culpability in the action.

If God's the one doing something. If it's him doing it then he gets the credit not you exactly man. You see well. Then why are you saying you have to do good works to be saved? He. It gets to get tripped up now in the Catechism of the catholic church in paragraph 2068.

It says that they mean they obtain salvation through faith baptism and the observance of the commandments. It says that Paragraph 2036 I believe it is. Says that an expression of the natural law is keeping the ten commandments and uh, yes.

Okay, the authority the magisterium extends also to the precepts specific precepts of the natural law paragraph 2036 because their observance demanded by the creator is necessary for salvation. Necessary the precepts of the natural law and in paragraph 2070 the ten commandments.

The decalogue the ten commandments decalogue contain a privileged expression of the natural law. So keeping the ten commandments is necessary for salvation. They're back under the law. Is it you keeping the commandments?

No, it's god in me and we go back in a circle because they have a cult mentality. And they don't understand what they're doing and they can't think very clearly or very deeply so. And i'll stick with catholicism and i'll go through uh, Smarter groups and show you how false religions work.

So, how do the roman catholics as an example get around this problem. Well, they invented something called condign merit and congruent merit as well as the understanding was called strict merit. Condign merit is the merit that god gives to someone who's in a state of grace a believer.

And it's a reward. For good works accomplished with the grace of god. But the reward is not Obligatory in a legal sense. God has simply Obligated himself if you do this i'll give this to you. Okay, isn't it's not legally required but god freely gives it.

So when you do these good things he rewards you. You do works of charity he rewards you. Not because he has to. But because he's obligated himself to do that. So if you go through the sacraments. The participation of the sacraments by which grace is infused into the soul.

Okay paragraph 1999. You do these things as god working in you not really you doing it, but you receive the grace you become more Gracefied and so you become better off before god. So condign merit Is just that merit where god Obligates himself to do something in response to your goodness.

That means god is choosing to obligate himself. To do something in response to the good works that you've done and they say but it's god working in us. Congruent merit is the merit That god gives to an unbeliever Who's seeking him.

And then god gives him a reward salvation additional grace, whatever it is. That's called congruent merit. Merit strict merit is you work for ten ten dollars an hour for ten hours. That's a hundred dollars.

It's directly owed. So they will divide things in between condign and congruent merit. And say that god is obligating himself in condign to the believer and congruent to the non-believer to reward them for burying things.

But it's actually god doing that stuff because he chose chose to do that. We're just participating. See how clever that is. It's mental gymnastics philosophical gymnastics and it's demonic teaching. Is what they're saying is that?

God will reward me. Not that we have he has to but he will for the good things that I do. And that that now understand there's truth to that to one degree but what they're talking about is salvation. Certainly if we as protestants as we who believe the real scriptures.

And what the bible really says. If I am honoring and loving my wife like i'm supposed to god's gonna bless our marriage more so and vice versa. Because god is gracious that way but that's not what saves us.

And it's certainly not what keeps us saved. If it was we'd be both in a lot of trouble really fast. So what they're doing is they're saying that the condign and congruent merit in the context of their merit are uh salvific.

Or participatory in the means of salvation. So they say it's a category of soteriology the doctrine of salvation. And this is what roman catholicism teaches that i've told you before I would love to speak on roman catholicism because I enjoy it so much.

Because I hate heresy so much and the higher the heresy level. The more I tend to enjoy it, but then I have a struggle with my spiritual Tourette's. I'm, not sure I call them sessatotalist and things like that.

So, um i've often asked Roman catholics and eastern orthodox. Who both do the same thing about salvation and works and faith? And the assyrian church of the east which I just released an article on I'll ask them.

Most people know i'm setting them up when I say so what you're telling me is that you know. You do these good things so you believe you're saved by grace through faith after all you can do, right? They go.

Oh, i've had many of them say. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, that's good. I just quoted the book of mormon second nephi 25 23. Wow, you tricked me and and they go. Yeah, i'm slick. No, you tricked me man. You don't understand just because they happen to get that right doesn't mean that I believe everything they say.

I go. Okay. Well, I guess then you know, you don't you don't get mormonism. But from what you're telling me is that you have to conform yourself. You have to obey god's laws and conform yourself to to uh his laws, right?

It's the moral standard right and they go. Yeah, of course you do. Oh, that's the watchtower february 15th 1983 page 12. Sorry. I'm just telling you that's where that's from. You say why is it you keep agreeing with the cults.

So, how about this check this out this is uh islam. I don't have this memorized. This is a surah 23 surah means chapter ayat means verse but they just say surah 23 1 through whatever like we say john 3 16 so 23 101 to 103.

Then when the trumpet is blown notice the christian imagery because islam some people consider islam to be a christian heresy. Because muhammad had a lot of of influence from arians. Which are heretic wackos, uh, and he in that area and he got a lot of christianese and he worked a lot of it into uh the quran along with uh issues of um.