F4F | Perry Stone's Pseudo-Profound Bovine Scatology

The Problem of Pseudo-Profound Preaching

Welcome to another installment of Fighting for the Faith here on YouTube. If you've ever listened to a preacher or a teacher, and when you're listening to them, it just sounds like they're not saying anything.

Like, you've heard the words, and they're words and they're words and they're words and they're words, but the point that they're making is really not what the biblical text says. You have no idea how they're getting that from the sentences that they're supposedly reading out from the scriptures.

And they're filling your head, and they're really entertaining, they're really engaging. But at the end of the day, it's like there's no substance at all. Remember that commercial from the 80s? Well, I did.

Where's the beef? Yeah, where's the beef? There's nothing in this. This is a nothing sandwich that you're serving up here. Where's the beef? Yeah, well, we're going to be heading over to Cathedral Church and their guest preacher, Perry Stone, yeah, of Manifest, right?

And we're going to listen as he's supposedly preaching about Job, and there's like no biblical point. But man, he's engaging. Oh, he's entertaining. Oh, he says it with passion and stuff like that, but he says nothing.

Nothing! He says nothing! Perry Stone, where's the beef? That's the question we want to answer. So if you've ever heard that, experienced that, go ahead and subscribe to our channel, like this video, and don't forget to ring the bell.

So let's head over to Cathedral Church as we check in with Perry Stone as he's going to supposedly be preaching something from the book of Job. Let's see if we can make heads or tails of it. Here we go.

Job 29:10 and the Claim That God Is Stirring Your Nest

Job chapter 29 and verse 10. I have never preached this message before.

It's Job 29 verse 10. All right, let's see here. We want to go to Job. Job 29 and verse 10. Maybe I misheard him, you know. The voice of the nobles was hushed and their tongue stuck to the roof of their mouth.

Okay, let me back this up. Let's try this again.

Job chapter 29 and verse 10. I have never preached this message before. It's new to me. And so bear with me because there's several different rabbit trails I could take and I want to focus on the thought at hand.

And I'm going to ask you a question. Have you had a restlessness that has come into your spirit that at times you cannot get over for weeks or months?

I'm feeling and detecting that there are people who've had a restlessness that's come into their spirit and it's lasted a while. If this is you, well, that's vague.

Huh. And you can't explain it and you can't pray it away and you can't go to your brothers and sisters and intercede and it break. Has anybody been there? Raise your hands right now and wave it this way, Brother Stone.

A restlessness, a very strange restlessness. I'm feeling it right now.

Can't you feel it? Yeah, there's a restlessness here. I'm restless because I don't feel like we're going to hear God's word taught properly at all.

I'm going to tell you what's happening. Are you ready for this? I'm going to read the text but I'm going to tell you what is happening. Job 29 and 10, Job said then. Okay, Job 29 and 10. Okay, all right.

Let's come back to him. He's going to read it out. I said, I shall die in my nest and I shall. All right.

Job 29 verse 10. See, that's Job 29 right there and that's verse 10. The voice of the nobles was hushed and their tongue stuck to the roof of their mouth. Maybe he's reading second Job.

Okay, coming back. Shall multiply my days as sand. For the next few moments, I'm going to tell you what your situation is. God is stirring up your nest. What?

He's doing what? God is stirring up my nest. I feel like you're stirring up my irritation here at this point, Perry. What are you talking? I don't have a nest. All right, like I said, there's a nothing burger here.

And you can't figure out why God is stirring up your nest.

This is absurd. This is ridiculous. You can't figure out why God is stirring up your nest, man. He ain't stirring up my nest, Perry. I don't got no nest and God's not stirring it and this has nothing to do with Job.

Because what you just said doesn't make no sense.

Job’s Suffering, His Former Prosperity, and the Misuse of the Text

Now, we must look at the verse to understand why Job, who is in a precarious, terrible, horrible position, writes the word that he writes and says the phrase that he says. According to Job chapter 1, we do not know where Job actually lives.

Some suggest...

Yeah, so why did Job write something about a nest? I could... We're Job 29 verse 10. I see nothing about a nest. So we got to hunt to see if we can find this. All right, nest. We're going to look for nest.

And I'm looking in the Old Testament. Job 29, I thought I shall die in my nest and I shall multiply my days as the sand. Job 29, 18. Okay, so let's just say that Perry, you know, he's getting old like I am.

So, you know, we old guys, I mean, sometimes we misspeak. So he just misspoke. He wrote this down wrong. He meant Job 29, 18. Then I thought I shall die in my nest and I shall multiply my days as the sand.

See, there it is. It's 29, 18. And so he's supposedly going to tell us. So why did Job write this I shall die in my nest statement? All right, please enlighten us, Perry. I'm waiting for some good sound biblical exegesis here.

And I'm concerned that we're not going to get there with you. But we'll keep trying here.

It's the area of Saudi Arabia. Some suggest the area of the Negev Desert, that region. But we do know there had to be plenty of water and plenty of grass because of the number of animals that he had. It wasn't just a dry desert region.

Because the Bible tells us in the beginning of the book of Job that he had 3 ,000 camels, 7 ,000 sheep. He had 1 ,000 yoke of oxen and houses and 10 children that were older and each had a home of their own.

And the Bible calls him the greatest man in the east. Lightning fell and killed the sheep.

This isn't helping me understand why he wrote about a nest and why I should think. God's stirring mine up.

Killed the sheep. A group of nomads invaded on horses and rode off pushing the animals with them and capturing his animals. We know that a whirlwind, a tornado or a hurricane of some kind fell on the homes and killed 10 children who were feasting in the home.

This man lost everything he owned with the exception of 3 servants that survived and his wife who was critical of him. Obviously she married him for the money.

No text says that. Wow. Whoa. So we're now out of nowhere without any textual warrant. We're judging Job's wife and basically saying she's a gold digger. Okay. I've never read any commentaries on Job that say that his wife was a gold digger but Perry clearly put all the clues together and figured it out for us.

Can I go there? No. Because when he lost everything he had she told him to curse God and just die.

Why do you? That doesn't prove she's a gold digger.

You want your husband to die because he's lost all the money. You're not going to get to go shopping at Macy's like you did. Come on now. Come on girls help me out.

That's an anachronism right there but I know the point he's trying to make but I don't think you can just prove that because she said curse God and die that that means ergo she was a gold digger.

So she figured if he'll die she'd go marry another one somewhere so you got to get rid of him first.

How do you know she figured that? The text doesn't say that. You're slandering Job's wife.

Wow. And he told her you speak like a foolish woman. Now here's what happens. The second attack comes to him, takes his health out, boils break out on his body to the point that his friends say in Job 2 that when they saw him coming they did not know who he was.

And for seven days he sat in dust and just scratched the boils but would say nothing. And then as you progress from Job chapter 3 into Job.

How does this understand. Help me understand why God supposedly is stirring my nest?

Hmm. Here 29 you will hear Job reminiscing about what used to be. Now stay with me because this is this is the nest we're talking about. Job begins to say in the book of Job in months past when I walked in the dark.

What is that cadence in months past? Pasta is something that you put like you know sauce on. You know that's what pasta is. What is this cadence of his?

The light of God shined upon me and my children. He then says later in the book of Job when I washed my steps with oil. When I washed my steps in butter the rock poured me out rivers of oil. A metaphor.

You taking notes on this? You know and I stepped on the butter the rivers of oil thingy. What is he saying? This is I hate to say this. There's a phrase and you're going to have to Google it because I'm putting a link to it.

But so there's this thing called pseudo profound and I'm going to change the phrase. All right. There's an actual journal article written on this concept. Pseudo profound and we'll just call it bovine scatology.

Kind of work out what the B and the S stands for. And I feel like at this point what we're getting from Perry is pseudo profound bovine scatology. And this is all designed to make him look like oh he's so smart.

He really knows his stuff. I mean how do you know he knows his stuff? Well because I don't understand what he's saying. You know oh he's so deep he's unfathomable. Yeah. This is pseudo profound bovine scatology.

And if you Google that and replace the bovine scatology with other words you'll find a journal article on this concept. And I feel like that's what we're experiencing here.

Job 29 as a Picture of Former Blessing and Righteousness

For the favor and anointing of God that was on his life in days gone by. He also says that when I was in my former days of prosperity. When I would sit at the gate the princess of the nations would come and listen to me speak with my wisdom.

And the young men would sit silent while I would talk to them about wisdom and direction. And we would say at this day the business principles of how I have made it through faith in God. And then Job continues to talk about when I spoke the people blessed me.

I helped the poor. I helped the widow.

I helped the fatherless. This still isn't helping me understand why. God is apparently stirring up my nest. That's the mystery that we're trying to solve here. Why is God stirring up my nest?

Those that were ready to die I stood there with them to be a part of them in their departure. This is Job talking. I was eyes to the blind. I was feet to the lame. To those who had nothing I was for them.

And those who tried to disrupt the poor and abuse them I would reach in and break the jaws of the wicked.

Break the jaws of the wicked. Preach like a Pentecostal preacher here. Yeah. That's what that cadence is.

Now here's a man that would have been a fine friend to have. Here is someone that had he been a part of your life that if you had a financial need he would have helped you out. That if you had a family problem he'd have sat down and counseled you.

And here is a man now after talking about. Don't miss it. After talking about. Don't miss it.

Miss what? After this is a man. Don't miss it. I'm ready. I'm ready. I don't want to miss. What is it? It's kind of like foghorn leghorn. Pay attention to what I'm talking to you boy.

Pay attention. Yeah. About all the blessings that he had he makes this statement. And I was ready to die in my nest.

We went all that way to circle right back to verse 18. Not 10 by the way. To circle all the way back to verse 18. And that same guy says I was ready to die in my nest. Don't miss it. Don't miss it. Pay attention to what I'm talking to you boy.

Pay attention to what I'm talking to you. Okay. All right. Fine. Fine. Fine.

What's the point exactly? Let me back this up. I don't understand. The thing he's saying. About all the blessings that he had he makes this statement. And I was ready to die in my nest. I was ready. I was so content.

And I'm going somewhere where I'm setting you up.

You ain't going nowhere. Your wheels are spinning in the mud Perry. In fact I don't even think you have wheels at this point. I'm going somewhere. I'm getting ready to make a point here.

Well get on with it would you? I was so happy and I was so rested. And I was so blessed with prosperity that I said to myself. I'll stay in my comfort zone. I won't just. No he didn't say that.

Huh? Yeah. Job wouldn't know the concept of a comfort zone. There's no scriptural, biblical, textual proof of him feeling like he needs to stay in his comfort zone. You know that's a modern thing.

Okay. Stay in my nest and I'll just have a happy old life and raise my kids and grandkids. Leave them an inheritance when I'm gone. But I'm going to stay in my nest. He didn't say that.

That's. No. And so God is stirring up my nest. Which means God's making me move outside of my comfort zone. That's where this is going. Really?

Really. Rest of my life. Now he does not stay in his nest. But his nest is shaken up. He is cast out of the nest. Touch your neighbor and say this neighbor. Oh you didn't hear me now. I got jumped on you too fast.

Say this neighbor. God is going to stir up your nest.

I guess you have to say it that way. God is going to stir up your nest. This is a nothing burger. Where's the beef? Dude there's nothing in this. Pseudo profound bovine scatology is what we're dealing with here.

And this guy is a world famous preacher man. He's on television and stuff and broadcasts from Israel and thingies. And he's saying nothing. But he's smart man. I know he's smart. Because the reason why is because man when he talks I have no idea what he's talking about.

So God's going to stir up my nest which means he's going to kick me out of my comfort zone. That's not what Job 29 is about at all. Oh this is painful. I mean let's take a look at Job 29. So Job again took up his discourse and he said.

Let's see if we can make some sense of this text. Oh that I were as in the months of old. As in the days when God watched over me. See he's in his suffering right now. When his lamp shone upon my head and by his light I walked through the darkness.

As I was in my prime when the friendship of God was upon my tent. When Almighty was yet with me. When my children were all around me. When my steps were washed with butter. And the rock poured out for me streams of oil.

When I went out to the gate of the city. When I prepared my seat in the square. The young men saw me. So he's reminiscing about what his life was like before all of these calamities came upon him. He doesn't know that the reason why he's being made to suffer is because the devil has asked to sift him.

He doesn't know that. He doesn't understand what's going on here. That the devil's basically saying the reason why Job loves you guys is because you've blessed him so much. Curse him and he'll curse you.

That's the thought of what's going on here. So it says, so the young men saw me and withdrew and the aged rose and stood. The princes refrained from talking and laid their hand on my mouth. The voice of nobles was hushed and their tongue stuck to the roof of their mouth.

When the ear heard it called me and blessed and when the eye saw it approved. Because I delivered to the poor who cried for help and the fatherless who had none to help him. The blessing of him who was about to perish came upon me and I caused the widow's heart to sing for joy.

I put on righteousness and clothed me. My justice was like a robe and a turban. I was eyes to the blind. I was feet to the lame. I was a father to the needy. This is a beautiful picture, by the way, of Christian sanctification.

Of the life of one who is a penitent sinner. Who is bearing the fruit of the Spirit in their life. This sounds like an exemplary example of a man who was rich in good works. In love toward his neighbor as well as fervent faith in God.

This description here is amazing. I was father to the needy. I searched out the cause of him whom I did not know. I broke the fangs of the unrighteous and made him drop his prey from his teeth. Then I thought I shall die in my nest and I shall multiply my days as the sand.

My roots spread out to the waters and with the dew all night on my branches. My glory fresh with me and my bow ever new in my hand. Men listened to me and I waited and kept silence for my counsel. This isn't about a comfort zone, by the way.

After I spoke they did not speak again and my word dropped upon them. They waited for me as for the rain. They opened their mouths as for the spring rain. I smiled on them when they had no confidence in the light of my face.

They did not cast down. I chose their way and sat as chief and I lived like a king among his troops. Like one who comforts mourners. So not only was he blessed by God as far as wealth that he had, but he was truly blessed in the good works that he had towards his neighbor.

But calamity has struck him. Chapter 30 then says, but now they laugh at me, men who are younger than I, whose fathers I would have disdained to set with the dogs of my flock. The unrighteous now mock him.

What could I gain from the strength of their hands, men whose vigor is gone? Through want and heart hunger they gnaw the dry ground by night in waste and desolation. They pick stalwart and leaves of bushes and the roots of the broom tree for their food.

They are driven out from human company. They shout after them as after a thief. In the gullies of the torrents they must dwell in holes of the earth and of the rocks. Among the bushes they bray under the nettles they huddle together, a senseless, nameless brood.

They have been whipped out of the land and now I have become their song. I am a byword to them. They abhor me. They keep aloof from me. They do not hesitate to spit at the side of me because God has loosed my cord and humbled me.

They have cast off restraint in my presence. Now a little bit of a note here. Scripture is very clear, Jesus is very clear that the scriptures testify about him. And so in the types and shadows, which the Old Testament is, in fact the New Testament makes it very clear that the Old Testament is type and shadow, and it testifies of Christ.

So in some way then, in the sufferings of Job, we can see a shadow of the sufferings of Christ. The way he described himself as like a king, and those who came to him had wisdom, and he sought out to help those who were poor and needy.

This sounds a lot like Jesus. In fact, when you read the Gospel accounts, it is stunning how merciful and kind and full of wisdom Jesus was, and how he would take up the cause of those who had no one to protect them, no one to care for them.

Jesus would meet their needs and seek them out in order to help them in their misery. And so what we see here then in Job's sanctification, described in chapter 29, is a picture of what the Christian looks like.

Why? Because the Christian is to look like Christ in his good works. And so because of that, now we can kind of see the connection then, and see how Christ himself really is the prime example of what Job is describing he was experiencing in his life while he was blessed.

But note the big turn now. Job now is mocked, and people are making songs about him, and he's the byword of the fool, of the person who is a mocker and a scorner and an unbeliever. In kind of a similar way, Jesus had experienced that big turn too.

In fact, one of the things that Perry Stone said, that people that knew him, when they saw him in his misery, they didn't recognize him. That's exactly how Isaiah describes Jesus in his sufferings, when he says that no one looked on his form, that he was marred beyond all recognition, and he was prophesying of the beating that Jesus received at the hands of the Romans.

And so in some way, there's a way to connect this back to Christ, and to meditate on Christ's goodness, his mercy, his kindness, and the great suffering that he was made to go through. But Job's suffering wasn't vicarious.

It wasn't for your sins and for mine, but Christ's was. And so the idea here is that we Christians also are called to suffer and to experience persecution. And so the account of Job really should give us comfort.

It is a book worth studying, studying in our mourning, studying in our suffering, studying in our persecution. And so you'll note that the big turn that Job experienced, Christ experienced that, but he, Jesus, experienced that for us, so that we can be forgiven.

Anyway, you'll note that you can take these texts, and when you properly understand how they all connect back to Christ, you can connect them back to Christ and preach him and challenge people to repent of their selfishness, their self-righteousness, their sinfulness, and to trust in the merciful one who suffered and bled and died for them.

And you can do that even from the book of Job. The Perry Stone, well, I don't know what he's preaching and teaching, but I can tell you this, don't make no sense. And it really is an abysmal mishandling of this text.

He's trying to make himself look all smart and stuff because you don't understand. This isn't about your comfort zone is the best way I can put it. And don't worry, God isn't stirring your nest. That's not the point of this text either.

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