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So hope you guys thought that was interesting you guys here at a few of you here. What do you think pretty bad? Pretty crazy. Yeah, it's pretty amazing the amount of heresy that people will will accept it's like Poisoning your food GMO this or that or how much stupidity you can take from the news media.
Hey, yo, give me some more and Just it's everywhere people are not thinkers. They are Followers they are led by their hearts not by their minds and not being transformed by their new another mind. They want to be comforted.
Don't be coddled and This is why I'm not Uber successful because I don't go for that. I'm not gonna call you. I'm gonna tell you the truth and That is the truth. So What? Cocoa was saying Heresy, you're just teaching heresy all over the place.
All right, so I think I'll do now is Hopefully that's updated and we'll see and We're doing Q &A right now looks like it I'll just go like that. That's what you see it. Yeah Q &A great when one person watching they'll take a bit to kick in so I'm thinking about doing some more of these kind of things and maybe do one on Joyce Meyer next because Get some videos stuff, of course, I could go even more and more.
I'd like to build expand this and do a series and I'm trying to decide What to do and how to do it With the with the ministry because I've been working next month. Karma will be 22 years old 22 years old and I have been working for 22 years and I'm actually starting to get a little burned out constantly writing constantly researching constant constant constant and I'm wondering what else is there to do and to what degree Should I do it and so the idea of putting videos together and some other things sounds appealing and You know just ask that if people are interested you pray about that to see you know What direction God wants things to go in so that we can hopefully Start getting more and more Produced but nevertheless, you know, I've always got to be working.
So I'll be doing something but you know It's kind of interesting to find these videos to find these quotes to find this stuff now I've already got a whole bunch of stuff from Joyce Meyer on my website and I could Probably turn a lot of it into videos and things like that.
It'd be totally cool if people were out there just saying look Matt. I will help you. I'll do research. I'll find a quote. Here's the URL. Here's the quote. This is juicy. Whatever it is. Send it to me.
It would just make it so much easier, you know, I'd be thanks great. Okay, got the quote got this got that put it together in a presentation and do stuff love to be able to do that. We need to be able to do stuff like that.
There's just so much that needs to be done. So nevertheless, we got people coming in and I don't see any live chat. And if it's coming in or not the chat, I don't see it. So if anybody's got any questions on Facebook nobody anything San Antonio gonna hide so trying to stall a little bit or waiting for people who want to maybe They want to ask a question.
You guys got any questions or anything if not, we'll just do this for 5 -10 minutes and then I'll bail.
You got a question. My question is if we are spinning around the sun. If we're spinning around the sun at 66 ,000 miles an hour and also we're spinning so we orbit, right? So the earth spins. And we're spinning around the sun.
How is it that it's so constant? The constellations have been so constant since the beginning.
Well, because it has no distance in size. When something is so huge, humongously huge, it has an incredible distance. You don't see any what we call relative motion. That's all. That's all it is. Have you studied the Flat Earth Theory?
Yeah, Flat Earth Theory. It sucks canal water. It's what? It's bad. It's bad? It's a waste of time. It's a waste of time? Yeah. Yeah. What do you mean? It's a waste of time. I mean, all you got to do is just look at the NASA feed.
You see a round planet.
Now, what if NASA created evil men to deceive people? For what purpose?
For what purpose? What purpose would the Flat Earth deception be for?
To burn this. To make this irrelevant. But it doesn't. I know. It doesn't make it relevant. Not by the way. And I'm only saying this because of apologetics. Because of what? Because of apologetics.
Yeah, but the Flat Earth wouldn't affect the Bible at all. Round Earth doesn't affect it either. I mean, it's spherical, so whatever.
Well, so I went to a church and I talked to this pastor. I don't want to talk to these pastors. Anyway, this pastor told me one thing. He said, he told me a few things. He said, one, that Jesus did abolish the law, which was just like, oh!
So he contradicted Jesus, okay. I was like, what are you talking about? And then secondly, he told me that this book was contextual. It's not at all literal. Oh.
So that's the issue. So when it says Jesus wept, I'd ask him, did he weep? Did he actually weep?
Yeah, exactly. It's like, I take this book literal. And even the Psalms are literal in the sense that when it says, to the ends of the earth, because there are ends of the earth. There are? What's the end?
Well, the end is technically what they would call Antarctica.
Called what? Antarctica? That's an end?
Yeah, there's an end. It's an ice wall. You can't go to Antarctica. You can't go to Antarctica. I can't go to Antarctica. You're not allowed to as long as to any treaty that's signed by the most countries.
And the reason is because they want to perpetuate this lies, demonic lies. This is what they're saying? Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
There's also other evidence like the constellations. I think that's perfect evidence. But there's also Amos as well, which says... You're not taking this seriously, are you?
I'm very serious. No, no, no. You don't believe that earth is flat.
I believe the earth is flat. You really do? I'm not on a planet, no. That's a total lie. Part of it too is...
Wait, wait, wait. You're confusing me. Do you personally believe the earth is flat?
I personally believe the earth is flat, yes. I don't. What's the earth resting on? It's resting on pillars. Because it says in the book that it's resting on pillars. You're serious?
I'm absolutely serious. So the earth is resting on pillars. What are the pillars resting on?
God says they're resting on pillars.
Okay. So let's do something logic here. Let's just do a little bit of logic, okay? So the earth is flat, right? It's a disk or whatever it is.
It is. It's a disk and there's a dome.
Okay. There's a dome. And so there's some pillars. Let's just put three pillars here. Yeah. Okay. So what are they resting on? Something. He doesn't tell us. Because if it's resting, that means it's a gravitational force.
Right? That means these have to be here to support it. Because something's pushing down. There has to be something here. There has to be something here that has to... it comes down to whatever's on that one, and that, and that, and that.
So something has to be the terminus. There's no such thing as gravity.
Because gravity is technically a theory. You cannot prove it.
And... So we're forced down, okay? And so the earth is resting. So you're assuming what we call gravity. Yes. Alright. So it's resting on something. One, two, three, four, or one big thing. If it's one thing, then it's infinitely big.
Impossible. If it's two, three, four, five, it goes on for infinity. That's impossible as well. It's logically impossible. So what's it resting on?
It's not... I don't know what it's resting on. You said pillars.
That's what the book says. Okay, so the Bible literally means pillars. Yeah. Okay, and so you don't know what the pillars are resting on. But it has to rest on... they have to be on something. Well, it doesn't have to rest on anything.
Does it do? Because of gravity? Because it's being forced down, right? That's why you said they're resting on it. Which means there's a force being produced. That's why we have to have pillars. Because if there was no force, and there was no gravity, which doesn't make any sense, then it wouldn't need to rest on anything.
But since it's resting on pillars, then we have this thing we're going to call gravity. Which means these pillars are also part of it. Unless you're going to say the pillars are the only thing producing this what we call gravitational effect.
And then there's nothing underneath them. It's just nothing. And only these pillars are producing gravity. Yeah.
Is that the case? I think it has to do with mass and buoyancy and air.
The greater mass there is, the more gravitational force that is exerted. And it's exerted for this, inversely proportional to the square of the distance. So the further out it is, the less the gravitational force is.
So if it's at two meters, it's one-fourth the ability. If it's at three meters, then it's one-ninth. So the ability of the gravitational force to have any merit or any strength to it, just drops off incredibly with the increase of distance.
Now, since this is so close, there's definitely gravitational stuff going on. That means they have to have mass. Okay? They have mass. They have to have enough mass to be able to cause gravity for us to be able to be affected here.
Okay? So these have to be super dense because the planet is huge. Well, the planet, yeah. Hold on a sec. Yeah? The only reason that I say it is because of logic. Wait, hold on, hold on the phone. Yes?
I can't hear you. Wait, it goes into this. That's right. Wait. Say it again. They might be watching and want to say something. That's why I picked it up. Okay. I can't hear anybody.
So, now you're taking that literally. It means pillars. It's actually on pillars. Yeah. Okay.
And how do you know it's literal? How do I know it's literal? Because Jesus told me to take it literally.
Where did he tell you to take it literally? He said, those who know that. Do you have a minute? No, I'm teaching Bible study right now.
Tomorrow? Yeah. Talk to you later, buddy. Okay. Sorry, I thought you might be one of the guys watching the video. Okay. See ya. Okay. Bye-bye. What about the Mormon thing? So, now you're taking it literally because Jesus told you to take the pillars literally.
Well, yeah, of course. I'm going to take the whole thing literally. Where did he say to take the pillars literally?
He didn't tell me to take it literally. I'm just convinced of the entire thing.
Okay, so where are you getting this that you've got to take it literally? I'm not saying you have to take it literally. You believe it literally. There's a reason to believe it literally. Why are you believing it literally?
They're literal pillars. Because of... Okay. Now, if you had on a good microphone, you could listen to you swimming through this mire. Alright. There's no place in the scripture to tell you to take this kind of a thing literally.
Yet you're taking it literally. So there's no reason for you to do that. The evidence works against it. And now what you're talking about is all the people. Now, basically, are lying. All the evidence and everything.
Now, I've been on Skype talking to people on the other side of the planet. Well, it's dark here. It's light there. I've been up in the air. I've seen aurora borealis when we're going over to France. I've seen ships go down over the horizon.
There's certain things that work with trigonometry, with mathematics, angles of light, things like this. I know. They have their so to speak answers. And it's a waste of stinking time. It makes Christians look like idiots.
It makes Christians look like morons who will take this and say there's literally are pillars. And all I got to do is say what are the pillars resting on? We don't know. Then how do you know there's literally?
Well, because it's there. How do you know? And you cannot have it at infinite distance of support. It doesn't work. You cannot have it. It's impossible logically. And I can show you why. So then you have to be able to say these pillars themselves are just suspended in space.
And if this is a dome, well then really where are you getting that? They're suspended in space by themselves causing gravitational force upon the planet Earth. Which is nothing but a disk. Which means that around here there is a wall of ice.
Yes. And there's a big conspiracy. Which is why people aren't allowed to go to this disk. And the reason is because of what? To not to make the Bible look bad? This makes the Bible look worse. But if you're concerned.
Here's something you've got to think about. If you're always listening. If your concern is oh no this is what the word of God says. And we don't. And they're trying to get rid of the Bible. They're trying to make it look bad.
The flat Earth makes it look bad. The flat Earth idea makes it look bad. But if it is true. It's not true. How do you know it's not true? Because you know what? Even unbelievers can detect various issues of truths.
Even they know about stuff. I can go to an atheist heart surgeon and say fix me. Not a problem. Just because an atheist doesn't mean he's already lying about everything. Because what this would necessitate.
Is that everybody involved. All over. Is all lying. They're all lying. They are. For what reason?
Because they belong to Satan. They belong to the sons of just their sons. Okay. So do. They're not blessed. Okay. So we got these people. Here they are. Yes. They're all in this. Okay.
These people get saved. Yes. Which happens. What do they say about it? Do we have any word of anybody. Look. I'm going to tell you. We were having these meetings in the Satan hall. And we were talking about the earth.
And it's flat. But it's not really flat. It's round. Or. No. It really is round. But we want to say it's flat. Has anybody come out and said. We were in this group. Of all these thousands of people. All over the place.
Saying that it's all a lie. Yes. There are people who have come out and said that sort of stuff. There are 33 degree masons who have come out and said this kind of stuff. Like Shaquille O 'Neal. I have memories of Shaquille O 'Neal.
Shaquille O 'Neal has a ring that is.
Like there's legitimately. Shaquille O 'Neal could stand and see the curvature of the earth. All right. Now the masons. There is no such thing as a curvature. The 33 degree masons. Who sworn allegiance under oath to dark forces.
Yes. These are the ones. They're a real group that exists. I know about that. So they're the ones that you're going to for documentation and support. I'm not going to them. There was actually. There's a video.
Where are these people who've left this? They became born again. And it said.
That is not true or is true or whatever. My logic and reasoning tells me it's true. And then I go to my Bible. Your logic and reasoning aren't sound. They're not sound. I agree wholeheartedly. But there's.
There's a way that seems right to a man. Did you hear that ribbing sound?
I heard that ribbing sound. That was a good ribbing out of context. So you don't have any evidence to know that these pillars aren't literal. It's just an opinion you've got. You don't know what they're resting on.
But their mass is causing. Causing a gravitational pull. That means they themselves. I'm not concerned. Why is it then that the moon is spherical? The sun is spherical. Mars is spherical. The sun and moon are spherical.
But I don't even know.
I don't know if Mars exists. Because I don't think it exists. You don't think Mars exists? No. It's a fallacy. The whole idea of space and the galaxy and this universe. Is a total absolute fallacy. To make people feel insignificant.
So what's that thing? Because if we were in a dome. It was a closed system. Then we would realize that. Well there's a God who controls all of that. So what's that planet? And once I did this.
I remember very clearly. I had some binoculars. I looked up. And I actually saw the bands of Jupiter. On some very nice binoculars. So is Jupiter real? That was created by the Lord. That's not a star.
To give him glory.
It's a star in the firmament.
Because God built the firmament.
So is your goal to expand the kingdom of God? And bring him glory?
My goal is to ascribe to God his glory. By telling the truth. Which I believe this is truth. I wouldn't say it if it wasn't true. You really believe it? I wouldn't tell you this if it wasn't true. If I didn't believe it was true.
I just know that there are. So there was this guy. He was involved in Satanism. And the Lord saved him. Now there was an interview that he did. He was talking about his experience. That he had with this Satanism.
And the Lord pulled him out.
And he was doing this interview. Now I believe that God stopped. They're teaching the earth is an oblique spheroid?
This has nothing to do with the flat earth. What he was talking about was. What he was talking about were a few things. First of all their goal is to destroy the Bible.
That's one of their goals. How does flat earth not destroy?
Now he was taught by a Satanist high priest. All these things that they're working on doing. One of those things is first of all the Sabbath. They despise the Sabbath. Okay we're off topic.
How does this. We are off topic. How does this validate Christianity as being true?
Well I'll read. This has to do with your Bible reading. And personally with my Bible reading. It makes me trust. It just makes me love the Bible. It's like you have a lot of Christians. And you said it yourself.
There's something wrong with the Christian church. What is wrong with our Christian church? I went to my elder and I told him. I said I was angry with you. Because I haven't been able to talk to you. I'm lost in this world dude.
I need wisdom. I need counsel. I need wise men to give me guidance. And to love me and to serve me. And I want to do that in return to you. But I need to speak with you. And there's victory and abundance of wise counsel.
And so I was going to him dude. It took him two weeks for him to not even give me a reply. And so I was in church. Sermon goes on. And I was talking about loving people or whatever. I can't remember exactly what it was.
But the Lord was calling me to hey confess your sin. And I confessed my sin to him. And I asked him for forgiveness. And you know what he said? He said nothing. And he just moved on. Well I don't know what church that is.
I don't know what the situation is. But the issue here is this. There's clearly something that's overcoming the saints. And the effectiveness of this. Because this isn't happening. Because I can see this isn't happening.
And you would agree with me too. Okay well hold on.
Hold on. Hold on. God is sending diluting influence. 2 Thessalonians 2. There's apostasy to come. People are having all kinds of problems. Problems and issues in the Christian church. I know. Now if your goal is to bring glory to God.
I would recommend very strongly that you not mention this to anybody. Because you won't be taken seriously. I can't.
Look I love science. I love science too. But the science that we know is pseudoscience. And if I love you wouldn't I tell you that's a lie?
You have to demonstrate from scripture that the pillars are literal.
Okay the pillars. I'm only saying that because you asked me about it.
Well you have to show me from scripture. It's literal. Okay. If you can't.
Then you should not die on that hill. Okay well I will say this right here. It says in Amos chapter 9. It talks about the Lord. It's all about the Lord. It says the Lord God of hosts. The one who touches the land so that it melts.
And all those who dwell in it. And all of it rises up. And all those who dwell in it more. And all of it rises up like the Nile. And subsides like the Nile of Egypt. The one who builds his upper chamber in the heavens.
And has founded his vaulted dome over the earth. He who calls forth the waters of the sea and pours them out in the face of the earth. The Lord is his name. There's also 48 references in Psalms. Which reference to the ends of the earth.
Yeah there's also right here. It says right here. Then God said that there be an expanse in the midst of the waters. Let it separate the waters from the waters. And God made the expanse and separated the waters which were below the expanse from the waters which were above the expanse.
And it was so. No problem with that. So if somebody asks me. Why is the sky blue? Because it's water that blooms. It's not space. The reason the sky is blue is because it's water. Because the Bible says it is.
Like you're a creationist right? You believe six days. And then God rests him. Right? Do you believe that's literal? Right? Do you believe that's literal? Like I'm not reason. I can describe it. It's glory.
That's the problem. That's what I see. We're just not recognizing truth. And the truth is set free. What is it saying exactly?
Yeah that's an issue of hermeneutics. Let me address the water issue. Okay. There's been discussions about it. But you can have water suspended in the atmosphere. High quantities of it. Without even being visible.
Without even being clouds. And that's what it is. It's vapor. You can have that. The flood that gets from underneath and above. So believe it or not. One of the reasons I took the Bible seriously. I don't tell the story very often at all.
But this is the truth. My goal was to finish high school. I took all the advanced classes. In fact I took such advanced classes. I didn't even take any math or science in college. None. I was so far ahead.
Someone mentioned the Bible. So I started reading Genesis. I started at the beginning. I tossed it because. Light before the sun. Plants before the sun. I tossed it. Let me finish. I used to carry around a book on the thorium fuel cycle.
I was going to my physics class. I'm a nerd. But at any rate. And I wanted to go be a marine biologist. So that was my plans and some stuff. But nevertheless. That was my train of thought. What was my train of thought?
Crap. I hate that. Oh yeah. The Bible. And so. I discarded it because I didn't agree with science. Then one day I read an article from a secular guy. I think he was an atheist. A scientist who said. Hypothetically.
If you were on the planet Earth. Watching all of this happen over a great period of time. What would you see? And he described Genesis. The first few days. I mean. He described it. Bang. Bang. Bang. Without even knowing it.
He didn't even refer to it. But he said. The sun would be there. But because of the coalescing of the mass. And this and that. And atmospheric conditions. And cosmic rays. And all this stuff. Diffused light would go out all over the planet.
And it would be able to reflect down through. As the Earth is rotating. Not a problem. And that's exactly what Genesis said. And then. Because of photosynthesis. And he gave the formulas. For the chemical reactions in the atmosphere.
Then. One of the results would be. After millennia. Whatever it was. That you'd have a cleared up atmosphere. You'd be able to see the sun. And photosynthesis would be possible. Because of diffused light.
The whole process. So I just went. The Bible got this. So it took me. Back to the Bible. I started reconsidering it. For real. This is what happened to me. And then. The Lord. Opened the door. Of my heart.
Okay. Maybe one day. I'd be a Christian. So. The Bible and science. Are not in disagreement. Okay. But how you interpret things. Is very important. And. If you can presuppose. That the Earth is flat. Because it's segments.
It's corners. Then you could be literal. It's not a disc. For example. Because. This is just real basic. Logic. We look down. That's a disc. Where are the corners? Anybody want to show the corners? It doesn't.
I don't know about. If you know what geometry. Ends of the Earth. Most is. I think. Levis has four corners. There are some. There is a small. It does see corners. Right. Yeah. And the ends. Okay. Now.
So. If you're going to be literal. You need to at least. Well. At the very least. Excuse me. There's corners. No corners. So at the very least. The Earth is a triangle. Yeah. Or a square. Or a hexagon.
Septagon. Octagon. Nanagon. Whatever you want to call it. Could be a trapezoid. Could be all kinds of things. You could have something. Where the Earth is actually. A flat surface. That's like this. Got corners.
Yeah. Obtuse. Obtuse angles. Doesn't make a difference. So what makes you think it's round? It's a disc. I don't even know. I don't know. I've lied to my entire life. Wait. You're not answering my question.
It says corners. The literal corners. The literal? Yeah. Okay. So then. This can't be. This is not possible anymore. The Earth is not a disc. Okay. So. What is it? Which one do you want to go with? I don't know what it is.
I have to ask someone. Let's just have the square be representative.
If I could go to the edge. I would study it.
One point at a time. Let's just have the square be representative. It has corners. Maybe it's a trapezoid. Maybe it's an octagon. Whatever. Triangle. Maybe it should be a triangle. Because God's a trinity.
You know. We could have Father, Son, Holy Spirit. And so. Maybe the Earth is actually a triangle shape. Representing the Godhead. It's got corners. But I think it does say four corners. If it says four.
I don't know if it does or not. Because it's been a while since I've even thought about this. Let's see. Corners. Oh, it has. Maybe someone could do some research. And find some more corners. Okay. It's got a lot of corners.
But I won't have time to be able to find something quickly. No. So at the very least. That's. The Earth is not a disc. And you said it was a disc. I just proved. From the scriptures. By linking the literal.
It's not a disc. You got that wrong. Yeah. So it's at least a square. Well. At least a triangle. I like the idea of a square better. Because I think it says four corners. I could be wrong. So let's just say that it's a square.
Okay. So now. We'll just have this. Because it has corners. We'll just use this as a representation of Earth. Where is it?
Four corners. Revelation 7 .1. And this. I saw four angles standing at the four corners of the Earth. Okay. There's actually about seven. We'll go with this. Fourteen. Okay. So. This is the. This is a square.
But it's at an angle. Because we're looking at it. Like an orthographic projection. And. So we have.
We have. Pillars. Okay. Now I'm assuming. That these pillars. Hopefully. There's a small one in the back there. I used to be a good orthographic projection drawer. But not anymore. All right. So. We'll just say three.
Because it could make four. But it doesn't make any difference. And so now. Here we are. Four corners. So it's not a disk anymore. That's gone. Yeah. Okay. So. Have any of these people now. Dealt with this issue.
That it's actually a square. But it could be a rectangle too. Because you can have four corners. In a rectangle. Versus in a square. So we'll just stick with a square for now. So. You could have a long rectangle.
In fact. It could be. A million miles one direction. And only 15 feet wide. Who knows? Well probably not 15 feet wide. Because. Jamie's here. That was a big noise. He's not 15 feet wide. I didn't even get it.
Yeah. He's. Well. He's. Well. He won the game later. Yeah. He just smacked the wall. Right ahead. Okay. So. So it's not a disk. Right? You agree. So I've just converted you. So disk-ism is wrong. So.
We'll just do the square-ism. Okay. So I'm assuming that these. These could be round. Pillars. Or. Square pillars. Whatever. Yeah. Doesn't make any difference. But. What are they on? There's something.
What does it say? So. Let me get this straight. Logically speaking. If this is something. It has to rest on something else. If there's a gravitational force coming down. But. But there is. But there is no gravity?
But you said it had to rest on pillars. Right? Well. I'm just saying. The book says it. The book says it. Okay. It rests on pillars. Well. But it says it's resting on. Which means that there's weight.
Yes. Which means there's a force being exerted. We're calling that force gravity. Okay.
We're calling that theory. We're calling it gravity. The downward force. Yeah. We'll call that gravity. Okay.
So. There's gravity. That they say doesn't exist. Which means the downward force doesn't exist. Which means. We should fly off. It doesn't exist. So we can call it something else. That's right. And then we have.
Some other issues. About rotational disintegration. Over a long period of time. Anyway. So. So. Now. This. If. If. You have to say then. That this thing here. Whatever it is. Is either part of the pillars.
That they're one of the same substance. Or they're different substances. If they're the same substance. Then the mass. The total mass. Here. Has to be sufficient. In order to cause. The right amount of gravitational force.
Because. Like it or not. They can agree or they can disagree. But the fact is. One body. In the universe. Always influences the other body. As I said. Gravity. Is actually. This. Inversely proportional.
To the square of the distance. So the further out. You are. From a body. The less. Gravitational force. Is exerted by the body. Upon the person. So that would mean here. That we'd have a certain amount of mass.
Here. For this exertion to occur. Because exertion is a fact. It's a fact. It happens. That means this mass. Has to be exerting down. Because. Or it's on something else. Which is another problem. Because then you've got to go down.
Infinitely. It's a problem. So to solve this. You have to say that. This is the only thing that's there. And it's just suspended in space. And nothing. But if you say there's no space. You've got a problem.
Because how can you have no space. Yet it exists. With enough mass. To cause gravitational force. And if you say there is no space. You couldn't have this. A series of things. Going down. Because that's what space is.
We occupy space. I occupy space. So this is occupying space. The earth is occupying space. And so therefore. If you say there is no space. You're saying. There's no space. But we're in it. There's no time.
But we have clocks. There's no love. But I love my wife. Yeah. Okay. So it's just self-refuting. I will admit. There's a downward force. That does exist. There's a downward force. Yes. What's causing the downward force?
We know. That it has to do with gravity. It has to do with mass. Yes. So this. Has to have. Mass. And it would then. Mean. That in itself. It is forcing. The earth down upon itself. Because it has sufficient mass.
To cause gravity. Yeah. But. There is no such thing as space. Yeah. Because there is no such thing as space. There's no space. So where is this. If there is no space? Where is that? Yeah. Where is this thing that.
I don't know. All I know is what the Bible says. Well.
Do some thinking. It's a foot stool. Do some thinking. All I know is what I see. And that. The fact is. The earth is. What we are on. Is not what it is. Okay. So. So you. You don't know. What this is.
You don't know. Where it is. Yeah. You don't have any answers. To just common laws of physics. That deal with this. And you say. There is no such thing as space. And so. This has to exist. In space. And yet.
It has to have. Mass. And existence. In order to exert force. But yet it doesn't exist in space. What I'm saying is. The idea. Of space. Is about space. What space? Define space. Space is this. Empty?
Idiotic lie. Of a galaxy. Of planets and stuff. Wait. Space. You haven't defined space. And there's aliens out there. You haven't defined space. Is there space between you and me? I'm talking about space as in like.
What we. What we see on TV. With NASA. And space. You mean. Out there. Yeah. The galaxy. What I'm talking about is galaxy. I'm not talking about space as in like. Are there such things as. Space is this room.
Are there such things as satellites? So the satellite thing is. I'm still studying that. Okay. The issue is. Are there such things as satellites? What we know of as satellites orbiting the earth is false.
So.
So. It's. It's not. I have a jacuzzi in my backyard. And one of my favorite things to do at night. Yeah. My wife and I will be sitting there. And I'll get my fake cigar. My electronic cigar. Yeah. I'm a pig.
And I'll smoke. You know. Arrogantly. Proudly. Like that. And I might have a glass of wine on the thing. I'm enjoying myself. Okay. And I look up. And I love to. Count satellites. Yeah. I love to count them.
And I'll see this little light going by. Yeah. It's not a firefly. I mean it is way up there. Oh yeah. And I can watch it. It's. One time I saw this. I saw a satellite here.
Here. And something like that. And they were moving together. Just like this. And I looked it up. It was the Navy communication satellite. Yeah. I saw them. That's what they'll tell you. It was awesome.
And so. They also. They don't exist. Bin Laden took down the twin towers. So they don't exist?
Do these satellites exist? I saw them with my own eyes. I saw them in perfect form just move across the sky. Was that real or was that not real?
It was a real thing but it's not what you think it is. What was it? It's something else. What was it? It's a technology that they're using that. Dillahunty Dive. There's so many things that they're not telling us.
What was it? What was it? I don't know. I don't know exactly. So what happens when. I'm not going to confidently tell you. The meteors. I'm just going to tell you what I see and what I believe.
The meteors come in and we see them. Are they real meteors? Because I believe in interplastic apologetics. Are they real meteors when they come down?
I don't know what they are exactly. Well, it does say in the Bible that God lets stars fall.
There's peace in the covenant that fall. So I can see this. I can see this. And when they predict that the space station is going around and it's exactly what we see. Right? That's good. And when we can take photos of the space station going across the sun and see its silhouette.
Is that fake?
It's not what we think it is. I'm just saying it's not what you think it is. I think it's a space station going against the sun. That's not right.
I see the space station going against the sun. You know, you look at a telescope, you can see it go right there. Yeah. So what happened?
Incredible technology. I'm telling you, the dragon has given them authority and power to do things that are unimaginable. Like black magic, like we were talking about. Like what he's talking about, speaking words.
Like that's black magic. He's teaching his people.
You know where he learned that from? From the people he's with. The Freemasons and the Illuminati and this sort of hierarchy of power. So did you see the eclipse?
Did you see the eclipse a while back? Yes, I did. And it probably was not the moon. It wasn't the moon. You've got to be kidding me. I'm not kidding you. People have taken thermal cameras.
Whatever passed in front of it was not stopped. Was it another disk planet? I don't know what it was.
It was something God did. It was something that God did.
Then how come the mathematicians can predict? God does stuff. Then why is it they can predict it exactly to the second? Who predicted it?
Because these people are taught all sorts of this truth.
More than we know. We three were up in the mountains with Cameron. He's not going to make it. Cameron had an app on. We had our glasses on. We couldn't look at the sun until the app said. We gave our location.
And it said 10 seconds before you can take your glasses off. 5 seconds before you can take your glasses off. And right when it said you can take your glasses off, boom. It was you can take your glasses off.
And I saw. It was awesome. So that app got it dead on right. These brilliant mathematicians and these astrophysicists. Whoever does all that kind of stuff. Which I cannot even fathom how they can do that.
They do that. And they get it down exactly to where we were in different parts of the country. But it's not the moon. But everything they do is based on that it is the moon. Yet they got it exactly accurate.
And so they're in on it, too. Oh, yeah.
It sounds crazy. Yeah. But they are. I'm telling you. I don't care if you think I'm crazy. I'm just telling you the truth. I don't think you're crazy. I just think you're. There's a pseudoscience that exists that is just totally false.
There's all sorts of other evidence. Like I didn't get. I just am very convinced. I've asked about this. You've got to solve this problem. You've got to solve this problem.
That's not my concern. My concern truly is. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What? It's like me asking an atheist. Please tell me where the transcendental laws of logic come from. It's not my problem.
Yes, it is. Yeah. So this is a problem because it is derived out of your worldview.
Do you want me to create a video of me going down and showing you the pillars? Yeah. And CGI the pillars? Because that's what they do in space. How do you know they do that? How do you know that? How do you know they do that?
I have a question. People have said, I'm telling you, like there's. The Masons have said it. There's logical evidence on. And now I'm. I'm blowing holes in it. I have a question. Okay. She's got a question.
Job 38. Then the Lord answered Job from the world. So I guess I've got answers Job. Okay. Come on guys. Yeah. 38. Yeah. Job 38. And so maybe you can help us understand how to take literal, not literal.
But it says, who is this that questions my wisdom with such ignorant words? Brace yourself like a man because I have some questions for you. Okay. Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?
Tell me if you know so much. Who determined its dimensions and stretched out the surveying line? I'm assuming this is God, right? Would God use it? Would God use a surveying line?
God is interviewing Job and he's condemning him indirectly. And so you said, take it literally. Would God use? Would God? Here's a question. Would God use a surveying line? But it says he did it. Who did who?
It's called rhetorical questioning. He's questioning Job, holding his feet to the fire. Where were you when I did this? When I laid the foundation, I use a surveying line. Well, foundations are literal, but surveying line is not.
What, what, what? A cornerstone. You know what a cornerstone is, right? I'll tell you what a cornerstone is. Hey guys. We have too many conversations. Yeah. It's hard to hear you. Here. So here's a building.
All right. Okay. Building. So when they would make a building, they had a cornerstone. Here's the cornerstone. They would lay it right there. Wherever it was, they would start. And then they started from there because from that cornerstone, they'd make their measurements and build things.
So God is saying now that cornerstone, right? He laid the cornerstone. So is that literal? A literal cornerstone that God used for the earth? So a literal. Hold on. You're saying, but you're saying. Oh, you're trying to.
Okay. Okay. All right. Okay. Let me help you out. This is written in a historical context. Now, if I were to write a letter to you that said something to the effect of. Yesterday, I went out and I got my thruster, my spring suit, and I went out there to the south side and the swells were coming in pretty regularly.
But I got outside and I rested for a little bit. Some grimmies were bugging the crap out of me. But finally, I was able to catch something. It came over the lip. I got hydrocoffined. And so after a while, I just said, forget this.
I'm going to get some grinds. Now, would you understand what I was saying? No. Okay. So I just talked a bunch of surf talk. All right. Right. So in order to understand it, you got to understand the culture.
Right. And so I could say certain things with certain phrases. In this culture, they're going to be understanding things in relationship to terms that they are familiar with. God's going to communicate to them in a way that they're familiar with.
Foundations. Pillars. They understand those concepts. And God's saying, where were you when I laid out the pillars? They're not literal pillars. Where were you? I used a plumb line. God doesn't need a plumb line.
He's using these things, which is obvious. It's just as illusory. Oh, I get it. You're saying you made it. You know what you're doing. He's saying, who are you to question I?
Is that what God's saying? He's saying what? He's saying, Job, who are you to question? Yeah. Don't question me.
Right. And he's doing this by saying, where were you when I made this? I made that. I did this. I did that. And he's using the terms that Job would understand. So you could have him say things like, where were you when I made the gigantic tent in which the heavens dwell?
Because he would live in tents. They go, oh, yeah, we got that. He's not saying the literal tent. What fabric is it made of? Is it got Navy camouflage? Or has it got Marines camouflage? You know, this kind of stuff can drive people crazy, drive me crazy, because it's pick and choose exegesis.
It's like, it's like yellow, it's like cab, taxi cab apologetics. You're driving along. Time to get out. Because that argument doesn't work for me. Get back in. I'm going to go along again. It's a problem.
It's a problem. I'll get out. I don't have to worry about it. Get back in. I go. It's no consistency. If you're going to be consistent about what the Bible says about the creation of the world, you might want to look at things like God holds the all of existence together by the exertion of his will.
That's actually true. We know that certain things in the quanta level don't work. The nucleus has protons that are bound together by gluons. They don't know why they're there. They don't know how it works.
Well, the Bible tells us. But it also says that the circle of the earth, we've got a problem now, because we need a disc. That's why people say it's a disc, the flat earth surface. But if it says four corners, which one are you going to take?
Because you cannot have a disc and four corners at the same time. It's logically impossible. So which one is it? Well, it doesn't take much. And believe it or not, I was making this up and figuring it out as I was talking.
And I'm showing problems. I haven't even studied this. I haven't read anything on it. I've only heard a few things. And I'm just talking about things. Making it up as I go. So even as I go, I have problems.
It doesn't take much. So which is it that we're going to be going with? Is it a circle, disc, the circle of the earth, the Bible says? Because I know, I got a reference on my website. Or is it the four corners as he showed us?
Which is it? Well, you've got to believe both now, but you can't. It's logically impossible to believe both. So now what we have to do is say, well, I don't know, you've got to make a decision. And if I were debating somebody, I'd say, which one is it?
Because no matter what you say, I'm going to quote the other one. At this point, they're stuck. Now, is this a big point? Yes, this is a big point. Because it all comes down to what are you going to believe?
What reason are you going to believe it? How are you going to believe it? Why are you going to believe it? Is it a disc or four corners? Four corners. Wait a minute, the Bible says it's a disc. The circle of the earth, it's a disc.
Okay, it's a disc. No, it says four corners. No matter what you say, there's the other view. Is the Bible contradictory? Of course not. It's contradictory if you take it literally like that. It's not contradictory if you understand he's just talking in metaphor, illustrations, in terms that we can understand.
The problem with a lot of Christians today, they don't think. They're not taught to think critically. And the flat earthers, what they're doing, sorry, but this is my, I've been saying this for a while.
They don't know how to exegete their way out of a white paper bag. They don't know what's going on. When I present simple problems to them, when we go with physics, they can't answer them. Which, I mean, I've talked briefly with a few.
They don't know what they're doing. And if we're to go to what the Bible says, disc, or the Bible says four corners, at that point, they're done. Because you have to solve one of them in order to have your argument.
But you can't solve it. It's unsolvable if you take it literally. Their position means it's impossible to know. Now, this is important, philosophically. If someone were to say that it's a square, and someone else were to say it's a disc, no matter which one they say, I'm going to say, well, the other, the Bible says the other.
Over and over, I would just, I would die on this hill. So now, which one is it? Okay, I'll switch. What you mean switch is this, go back and forth. This is the problem. Because it demonstrates, with this methodology, you cannot know what the truth is.
You cannot know what the truth is. Even at the basic level. And so, because you cannot know what the truth is, your whole system of thought can't be trusted. The whole issue, at stake now, is not falsified, not invalidated, but highly subject now.
And you can't even trust that your thinking, in regard to this, is valid. Well, all your reasoning is now a suspect. Because you can't solve this problem, and there is no way to solve this problem, from their perspective.
Therefore, their perspective is wrong. Because their perspective leaves it an impossibility. Therefore, they're wrong in their perspective. Because it's a logically self-refuting position to hold, from the very beginning.
Job says that God hangs the earth over nothing. Yes, he does. That's right.
That's right. It's on my site on that. One of the things. He suspends the earth in nothing. So, we have pillars, we've got nothing. So now, we've got a whole other system, a whole other thing. Exactly.
This flat earth thing is a waste of time. It's a distraction from the truth. Amen. It's a distraction from the truth. And it will cause you to look like a fool, in the eyes of the unbelievers. Now, that's different than saying, the cross is foolishness, and those who are perishing.
That's different. Because the Bible specifically says, this is it, this is the truth, this is that. It goes from every different angle. But this thing, the pillars, he hangs the earth in nothing. I don't know what verse that is.
Joe 26 -7. What? Joe 26 -7. 26 -7, thank you. So, Joe 26 -7. He hangs the earth in nothing. But in other places, as he has the pillars, you can't have both be true. The circle of the earth, disc, four corners, you can't have them both be true.
That means a system of interpretation leads to self-contradiction. That system of interpretation is wrong. And it leads to flat earth theory. This would not be hard to deal with in a real debate. They have to answer this, they can't.
So, as a believer, we should focus on, stay away from that, and focus on the person and work of Christ and the cross, and don't be used by the enemy of the gospel to bring something in that will cause unnecessary stumbling in the credibility of us.
One of the reasons some atheists take me seriously is because I can talk like this about things. I don't know a whole bunch of stuff about a lot of things. A lot of guys know far more than I do. I can talk a little bit about genetics.
I can talk about physics. I love physics. One of my most enjoyable classes I ever had. And it was hard. I remember once it took me two and a half days to solve one physics problem. And I loved the class.
So, I understand a lot of this stuff. Once I did this, it was 15 years after I was out of high school. I actually figured out the gravitational force versus centripetal force combination with the Earth rotating.
If you went back in time, it adds two seconds per century or one point something seconds. You go backwards. How many centuries did you go backwards before the centripetal force was throwing things off the planet at just this rate?
I was able to figure it out. I can't remember it now. But anyway, I love trigonometry too. I can teach you how to do trig right now. I can teach you how to do trigonometry. It's easy. But the thing is, this stuff doesn't work.
This is a self-refuting thing. I could. I could teach you trig. It's easy. But you think I'm joking? Please don't. I think I'm joking. I actually can. And in 20 minutes he goes, oh my goodness, I know trig.
It is so simple, isn't it? All it is, if you can solve this, what was it? Yeah. If you can solve like that and solve for C, solve for B, you can do trig. That's whatever. This whole system, this biblical exegetical system leads to self-refutation.
It leads to nothing but subjective preference about what you want a particular thing to be believed or not. This or that. And no matter what you subjectively pick, all you have to do is go to the other side.
And it proves your system of interpretation can't be trusted. Flat Earth stuff is a waste of time. Any questions on YouTube? On Facebook? No, we're just telling people we're going to hold them over because we're going to go up for an hour.
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