November 10, 2016 Show with Simonetta Carr on “Martin Luther (Christian Biographies for Children)”

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Simonetta Carr and the Life of Martin Luther

Good afternoon. Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. And the rest of humanity living on the planet Earth who are listening via live streaming. This is Chris Arns and your host of iron sharpens iron. Wishing you all a happy Thursday.

On this 10th day of November 2016 I'm delighted to be interviewing for the very first time today on iron sharpens iron Simonetta Carr, she is going to be discussing two of her latest books. The first we are going to be addressing is Martin Luther, which is a part of the Christian biographies for young readers series published by Reformation heritage books.

And then in the second hour, we're going to be discussing a Figure from history that is a lot less known. In fact, I did not know about her until I found out about Simonetta Carr's book about her Rene of France who is quite a fascinating figure.

She was the wife of the Duke of Ferrara who was a servant of the Pope and Yet she was a correspondent with John Calvin. So I'm sure we're going to learn some fascinating information about Rene of France and it's my honor and privilege to welcome you to iron sharpens iron for the very first time Simonetta Carr.

Hello, Simonetta. Yes, and Simonetta is originally from Italy. So our audience may have to be a little patient because she does have an accent, but I seem to be able to understand her. Completely fine before we even go into your books that we're going to be discussing Simonetta.

I'd like to know something about your background in Italy. What? Religion if any you were raised in and how you eventually came to embrace the Reformed faith of the Protestant Reformation.

A teacher. I was an elementary teacher in Italy, but I we came to America.

Yes, the United Reformed Church is a very fine denomination. I have friends in that church and I know that many people who Left the Christian Reformed Church denomination because of liberalism that began to dominate there came into the United Reformed Church and So send my greetings to Everyone there at the you are CNA that you know and I look forward to interviewing as many United Reformed pastors as I can.

I really have a very high regard for the three forms of unity and much of what my Reformed brethren in that denomination hold in common with me as a Reformed Baptist and.

And.

It's such a pleasure and honor to have you on the program now. Were you an author? Before you became a believer in the doctrines of the Reformation.

I've done a lot of translations from English to Italian. So, yeah, that's what I did. And this first book actually with Calvin.

Well, this is. You've got quite a number of accolades for this book that you have written on Martin Luther. Let me read a couple of them. Robert Kolb who is professor of systematic theology at Concordia Seminary in st Louis a very well-known seminary of the Lutheran Church, Missouri.

Synod. He writes. Car leads readers into the world in which Martin Luther grew up and then served the church in his society with sensitivity to the times and places Where his life unfolded the adventure of bringing the gospel to his people and the drama of his testimony to the truth Come alive as we follow his footsteps into the heart of the German government when he stood up to the emperor and into his home and The joys he had in raising his family an excellent introduction to the life of the great reformer.

And we also have Karl Truman who has been a guest a couple of times on iron sharpens iron. He is the Paul Woolley professor of church history at Westminster Theological Seminary in Pennsylvania and pastor of Cornerstone Presbyterian Church, which is a Which is a congregation within the Orthodox Presbyterian Church denomination in Ambler, Pennsylvania and he writes.

I'm a big fan of both Martin Luther and Simon at a car so this book is a dream come true an author subject marriage made in heaven. Simona beautifully captures both the life and the key thoughts of dr. Martin and does so in a manner Which is fast paced and exciting.

Parents will love reading this book to their children and children will love reading it for themselves. Well quite a commendation for this book.

And.

So Tell us about what exactly you have put in the writing for younger people in regard to the The life of Martin Luther in this book that you have written.

No, I I wrote about the life of Martin Luther. I also tried to explain his Theology and what the and of course What Martin Luther did for the church is we could write the few I had to choose the most important.

Yes.

In fact, I'm gonna give our email address Out right now for any listeners who would like to join us on the air With a question of your own for Simon at a car. Our email address is Chris Arnzen at gmail .com.

Chris Arnzen at gmail .com. Please give us your first name your city and state in your country of residence if you live outside of the USA. Now obviously the Reformation is a very sensitive issue when it comes to our relationships with our Roman Catholic friends and family did any of your family members react in a negative way not only when you Converted to the theology of the Protestant Reformation and the gospel what we would consider the gospel of the Bible and the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Did you get much of a negative reaction or opposition from your family and then on top of that writing about it? They were very interested in what you've done. Yeah, yeah, that's Well, that's a blessing from God because obviously there can be at times there are people who have experienced a lot of hostility and even have been and even have been shunned by their own family and totally left out of the Family gatherings and so on as a result of these things, but your family is interested in what you well in the transformation That has taken place in you.

Well just to let our listeners know something more about this book it is a beautiful hardback Book that is illustrated beautifully illustrated which obviously is ideal when you are speaking of Books related to younger readers and children so on.

The illustrations were done by Troy Howell and This is a really high quality book that Simonetta has written and You you start. In the book from when Martin Luther was a law student and he eventually became a monk.

Can you tell us a little bit of a summary of the events that took place in Martin Luther's life that led him from Aspiring to be an attorney to entering into a monastery.

Yeah.

Well, I actually start from the time when he was a child because you know children are always interested in that and He grew up pretty much Like any other child of that tiny story about the salsa. Yeah apart from that.

He says you want to know about the transformation. Yeah, he would event is pretty famous when he didn't made a promise to Think big made a promise to a saint today. He would become a monk and so he kept his promise and became a monk even if his father was against it licked it at that time got my mom but that he did and.

What was it that really started to challenge his thinking and Get him to become really like a Berean and examine What the Church of Rome was teaching in light of what the scriptures truly taught.

Yeah, I think he had a very sensitive conscience that time. They really have an answer. He knew that there was not Enough it just and he kept going to confession and then he actually drove it. Equally, I can't overrated about my sins and I actually wrote them all down To make sure I wouldn't forget I know it was it was terrible because Today, you know, it's impossible.

You have a you have a bad thought about something and every commandment I didn't kill anybody.

Yes, and one of the key figures that propelled him to begin to protest some of the practices of the church Was Johan Tetzel who was basically coercing money out of the ignorant people in the Roman Catholic Church placing fear in their hearts.

That they needed to give money in order to not only lessen their own time in purgatory, but to get their The souls of their deceased loved ones out of purgatory. And there's that famous Jingle for lack of a better term that was popular then as soon as the coin in the coffer rings the soul from purgatory springs and That really angered that began to anger Martin Luther.

Did it not then isn't that what one of the main reasons he? posted the 95 theses to the door of the church in Wittenberg, Germany.

Yes, I Think he He had a very high view of God and he just didn't understand how To forgive a sin and also he was wondering it the church. Just because he wanted to. Yeah.

A lot of people don't realize that that enormous. Well, I guess a lot of it would depend upon one's aesthetic taste but. Some would call it an enormous beautiful Edifice some would say it is gaudy and grotesque.

But the st. Peter's Basilica in the Vatican that was built on the money from these these scare tactics of the Church of Rome to get their souls of their loved ones out of purgatory through their their contributions to the church and.

And.

This is where the the famous Sistine Chapel is and so on that Michelangelo had painted. We do have a couple of listeners have who have already written in to us. We have a listener in Slovenia Named Joe who says.

I'm wondering if sister Simonetta is familiar With Primo's true bar the Slovenia reformer from Italy's neighboring country to the east. He is considered the father of the Slovenian people because he created the Slovenian language By being the first person to put into writing put it put it into writing.

He did this by writing a a reformed catechism in Slovenian and translating the Bible into Slovenian. While in exile in Germany Could she possibly study his life and write a book about him in a similar way that she did for Martin Luther?

Do you know anything about this?

Reformer.

Simonetta Primo's.

I don't know.

Well jokes keep praying that Simonetta finds it within her schedule to eventually write a book about that so you could use it as An evangelism tool over there in Slovenia and thank you for providing your United States address Joe for your daughter because you are getting a free copy of this beautiful book published by Reformation Heritage books Called Martin Luther, which is a part of the Christian biographies for young readers this gorgeous hardcover color full-color illustrated book and.

So we thank you for that question and you should be getting that book. God willing within a week or so. Compliments not only of Reformation Heritage books, but also of Cumberland Valley Bible book service who is shipping that out to you.

CV bbs .com CV as in Cumberland Valley bbs .com we also have a question from Aaron in Indianapolis, Indiana. She says thank you for interviewing Simonetta. I'm so thankful She has written such excellent biographies for children to learn about reformed heroes of the faith.

Has she considered writing such high caliber caliber books for adults biographies of other nonfiction subjects. I Believe you have written Books for adults isn't your book on Lady Jane for for adults.

That's right, I'm sorry right but the one what we're gonna be covering in the second hour. Okay, well, well, thank you Aaron and you are also getting a free copy of this beautiful book provided by Reformation Heritage books Martin Luther, so keep your eye out for that in the mail.

Thank you very much Aaron from Indianapolis, Indiana for contributing to our program today. Let's see we have another listener we have Seth in Randlesman, North Carolina. What would dr. Carr say to people who disavow reading or advocating books by Luther based on his remarks about the epistle by James and His comments on Jews.

I have pastors who regularly tell me we shouldn't Recommend anything from Luther. Obviously, I disagree with their view. Yes, there is the story that Luther thought that James was an epistle of straw he wanted To throw Jimmy in the stove is the famous quote.

Whether or not that's an actual quote or not. I don't know but but He did have a conflict with James because it on on the surface wrongly appeared to him to be teaching that Works contributed to faith for justification Before God and you know in order to enter eternal life, but do you have any comments on that seminata?

Practically say he was the father of the Reformation although there were a few minor reformers before him so I think he There's a lot of things that he Developed in his thought as time went on when he posted in 95 pieces.

For example, he was asking some questions and it was mainly wondering about Repentance and all came gradually. So I think he was still learning a lot For him and He was Many other things there is so much.

Second thing you mentioned was that did you see the Jews?

Yes, there are many people who are very critical of Luther because he Apparently from what I have heard from history He was expecting the Jews to convert in mass After the Reformation had a stronghold and he when that did not happen when you know there was still only a trickle of Jewish people coming to faith in Christ.

He was furious by this and I also had heard that there were rabbis writing a Horrible negative pamphlets about him as well. And so he had these outbursts of anger where he wrote Horrible things about the Jews about Destroying their places of business and forcing them to work in the fields and all kinds of things like that that that even the Nazis had took him taking some of that literature and and used it to further their own cause but Luther was a sinner.

He was a sinner saved by grace and obviously that was some of the The the fruit of a life that was not a hundred percent purified as no one is here on this earth. Am I right?

Right, so at that time that attitude toward the Jews as it is prominent at that time among Christians and it was definitely wrong but it was very prominent.

So.

I remember reading actually Kurt Truman saying that We should not be as much surprised and favored the Jews. He wrote a very positive Initially at which it which was an exception at that time. So that was even more surprising the second part.

Yeah, he was more to the Mentality of it. It was definitely wrong. He handled it. Yes and.

At that time also the rhetoric between those of different Religions was very very harsh a lot Harsher than it is today. Seth if you give us your full mailing address. There in Randleman, North Carolina, you will receive a free copy of this beautiful hardcover full color illustrated book Martin Luther a part of the Christian biographies for young readers series by Simon at a car.

And so we look forward to getting your full mailing address. We have to go to a break right now. If you'd like to join us on the air with a question of your own for Simon at a car. Our email address is Chris Arnzen at gmail .com.

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She is from Italy and now resides in San Diego, California here in the United States. And we are today are discussing two of her books for the first hour. We are discussing her book on Martin Luther, which is a part of the Christian biographies for the young readers.

Published by Reformation Heritage Books. The second hour. We are going to be addressing a Figure from history that is a lot less known than Martin Luther. In fact, I did not even know of her existence until reading this book by Simonetta Carr on Rene of France and that is a work published by Evangelical Press or EP books and.

If you'd like to join us on the air with a question of your own. For Simonetta Carr our email address is Chris Arns and at gmail .com Chris Arns and at gmail .com. We have someone writing with an alias from Valley Stream, Long Island, New York.

Lamb lamb. Lamb lamb says, please express. Thanks to miss Carr For writing the Christian biography series that is interesting and informative. I would like to ask her I read in one of your other books in the series that using the word reformer to title or describe Martin Luther.

Is there a glossary list in the back of the book how parents are to explain the idea of? reformation or Reformer and how can parents as when teaching their younger children to connect all the dots among the series?

In relate in relationship to the Chronicle as a whole picture in the Reformation history. Did you get that question? Simonetta.

Yes.

I have Talked to my publisher a couple of times about including a glossary. I Could ask him again. The problem is that The book is quite packed already. So if we add a glossary we may have to cut out something else or Reuse the pages for the story, but Yeah, I can ask him again that Could be a Reformation.

I think actually I explained it in my first book did it for the better moving and overcoming. It's mistake. I don't know if I answered the first question. Oh, that's that's fine. Well, well, thank you.

But if you were if you were going to do something. Write something that connects all the dots between all of the figures from history that you've written about. And we have let's see. We have a couple more listeners here and well before I go back to another listener I'm going to ask a question of my own.

How far into the story of Martin Luther's life do you take this book. Obviously when he defies the magisterium. That he will not back down from what he believes to be biblically faithful and so on. How far into his life do you go with this book?

Well, I actually go to pretty much cover. Hey, I don't call that every single and.

Why do you think that it is important for children to know about? Things that we might ordinarily view as deeper subjects. Fit for adults such as some of these deep theological issues that separate Roman Catholicism and the Protestant Reformation.

Why do you think it's important for us to instill in the minds and hearts of children these things?

So if other people ask us We know we know what to say. I have Catholic friends. They think That the only thing that divides us is that we don't believe that the Pope has authority over our Christian. But you know, obviously There's much more than that.

Most people don't know and I think it's important for To fully know their faith and fully know what they believe in and I think that you may be.

Accidentally, I don't know if you're aware of this, but you're accidentally touching a button on your phone. That keeps beeping. There's something that you're doing with your phone that periodically it beeps.

I think you're accidentally perhaps pressing a button With either with it. That's okay. We can deal with it. That's all right. We have Casey in Kannapolis, North Carolina.

And.

Casey writes. Can you ask Simon at a car about how we can have a modern Reformation for our children today in the church. I'm not a hundred percent sure what Casey means by that and perhaps Casey if you want to clarify that with another email but Can you answer what he has written here?

Can you ask Simon at a car about how we can have a modern Reformation for our children today in the church?

Yeah, I'm not completely sure either but I think what we can do is inform our children of What it means to be reformed and maybe maybe that's a human. Yeah, and there's there's plenty that the church needs to be.

Reformed of Today even with an evangelicalism. There are a lot of things That would contradict with the scripture teaches that are going on that children today might want to be and have something instilled within their hearts and minds to be a little reformers of the future if you will because of the fact that you know, the church has become a place of entertainment and the church has become a place where Our feelings and our needs are primary Above the gospel of Jesus Christ above the glory majesty and holiness of God.

The the things that selfishness seems to be at the height of What is happening in the modern Christian Church, even in those churches that are the heirs of the Reformation and it's sad to say so. Perhaps that was a part of his intent.

Um, and by the way, Casey, I apologize if you are a woman I keep calling you a he I'm not really sure. I keep thinking of the You know Casey Stengel and other men And the mighty Casey has struck out that famous baseball poem, but huh, so I apologize if you are a woman Casey but by the way, Casey if you give us your full mailing address.

You are also getting a free copy of this gorgeous hardcover full color illustrated book Martin Luther By simonet a car a part of the Christian biographies for young readers published by Reformation Heritage books and We thank you for submitting that question.

And I want before we run out of time on this first hour Simonetta I want you to make sure that you Provide our listeners with what you most want etched on their hearts and minds In regard to the life of Martin Luther and the book you have written here.

I think.

Yes, and it is. I think it is something that is very inspiring to know that. Even if you think that because you're outnumbered By by by thousands of times over.

By.

People who are in opposition to you as you stand for the truth of God and the Holy Scriptures that you are not alone if you are on God's side and If he more importantly is on your side. Then it doesn't matter how many people are opposing what you say or do if you're standing up for truth that God will bring about Whatever he desires to occur and in that particular circumstance for his praise honor and glory.

And you have the Protestant Reformation Largely Catching fire as it did in spreading all over the globe Largely due to this one Augustinian monk. Obviously, there were other people involved, but he is a key figure in history of all this occurring and it also reminds me of centuries earlier with Athanasius When Athanasius was standing up in defense of the deity of Jesus Christ one that nearly all of the bishops in the church had become Arian or those who rejected the fact that Jesus was both God and man and Athanasius didn't care how many people Even if they were leaders in the church were in opposition to him.

He stood firm knowing that God was on his side. That's a very Inspiring thing to know that what we can accomplish even though we'd be outnumbered and frail and weak in and of ourselves and even though we're sinners God can do mighty things through us can he not.

Yeah, and I think that's a valuable lesson for children to know that when They may be being bullied or mocked or being made fun of or they may be outcasts with other children because they are following Christ.

These are important things for them to know.

Because he didn't just go out to defy the church. In fact, he tried to respect it as as much as possible. He Wrote a letter to the Pope in full hope that the Pope would finish teaching and Blurt them out.

They say I'm right you're wrong. In fact in those days It didn't even exist. Everyone was supposed to the church and Remember the action that.

Amen now Before we go into the the topic of our second hour, which is going to be on Rene of France I wanted to get a little bit more background of what is going on in Italy in regard to the gospel. Since that is the home of your birth and You obviously have a great love for Italy and the people there you obviously still have relatives there and so on and loved ones.

It is very unusual for me to meet somebody from Italy Who is a firm believer in? Reformed theology, I've met many Italian Americans who are a second or third generation. But you are from Italy. How prevalent is The or are the doctrines of sovereign grace or reformed theology in Italy today?

Um, well not prevalent of is the different denominations is the Valencian the Valencian Church is I'm very happy about is that now we have up there and That makes me very happy. And some people from there are coming to America, I mean, Eric, California, they're there.

Yeah, there's a real lack of there's one church to that, you know a few other places that in Italy does they now.

As far as the state of the Roman Catholic Church in Italy, obviously we would view the Roman Catholic Church as Heretical and in disobedience to the scriptures on many things. But are there people what what are the majority of those Catholics in Italy.

Are they just nominal Catholics by name only or are they fervently religious and going to their masses and saying their rosaries. Or most people just secular who may have a very faint identity as a Catholic.

Yeah, I think. Right exactly.

Yeah, in fact, it would be impossible for them to renounce the Council of Trent without crumbling as an institution. They would have to they would have to reject people infallibility and all kinds of things.

Right, in fact, I often will tell my Catholic friends and family members who are ecumenical When they get upset with me when I say that their gospel is false and That they have a different gospel than I do.

And when they get upset with me I point them to the fact that hundreds of years before I was born the Council of Trent declared what I believe Today to be the gospel. They declared it as something to be accursed and they Anathematized me before I was even born for believing in this.

So therefore I am NOT the bad guy here. Your your church the Roman Catholic Church already has said That the gospel of the Reformation is a different gospel than theirs and they declared our gospel false so therefore.

We.

Recognize that they do have a different gospel. The that's the only thing that we agree with Trent on is in that regard. We we believe that we though are the ones who have the true biblical gospel that Jesus Christ Stood upon and that they are the ones who have departed from the scriptures.

Yeah, and so the the Council of Trent even though the Pope The current Pope Francis is a very liberal Pope He still has not renounced or overturned those strict and very harsh anathemas, has he?

No, he has not. He kind of ignored them, but they're there. I just read an article by Someone else in the Catholic Church another church actually Celebrating Luther on Trent.

Rene of France and Calvin’s Influence in Italy

Well, we are going to our second hour now and By the way, Tyler and mastic Beach Long Island if you're listening, we're switching subjects now so if you have a question that you'd like to send us on Rene of France who is quite a fascinating figure from history a very little known figure but quite a fascinating one.

I know that Tyler was wanting to ask a question about Luther but if you would like to ask a question about Rene of France instead of our New topic now as we go into the second hour of the broadcast We would love to hear from you and we would love to hear from anybody out there who has a question for Simonetta Carr at Chris Arnzen at gmail .com.

Chris Arnzen at gmail .com and Please include your first name your city and state and your country of residence if you live outside of the USA. Don't go away. We will be right back after these messages with Simonetta Carr.

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