Four Open Phone Calls, Leighton Flowers Says I Only Use "Biased" Sources

Open Phones and the Day’s News

Greetings and welcome to The Dividing Line. We're going to start off with open phones today at 877 -753 -3341. 877 -753 -3341. I would have posted that on Twitter, but I was on a conference call about the Israel trip, and we are moving forward.

Obviously there's gonna be some stuff we're gonna have to deal with, you know, just because the world is weird right now, but still gonna be happening, and lots of time for teaching, and could be in Ephesus, and all the rest of this, you know, Athens and Ephesus, and all the stuff that we were planning on doing.

I'm not sure how you social distance while doing that. You know what? I hate that phrase. That phrase just, I just, I can't wait till never having to say it ever, ever, ever again. If there ever is a time when you don't have to say it ever, ever again.

I'm not 100 certain that that will ever be the reality, but anyhow, so that's what I was doing. That's why I didn't get out there. Sorry about that. So that will mean that Rich will be rather busy here for a few moments.

We already have, we're only gonna take four calls, so last time that took us 45 minutes or more, but 877 -753 -3341 is the phone number, and then we've got a couple other things to get to to finish off the week, and of course while we're waiting for the calls to come up, we have, I can't do that, so I'm gonna have to turn this off here.

We have the interesting things going on today, including the President of the United States saying that churches must open on Sunday and that he will override governors. Now obviously, I don't think he can do that.

I don't know. It would lead to all sorts, there's gonna be all sorts of, that's what everybody's gonna be talking about for quite some time, but everyone is sort of sitting around going, okay, so we heard all the Romans 13 stuff, so what do you guys do now?

You just go, the President said, so we've got to do it, even if we don't want to do it, but the President said because of Romans 13. I don't think that's probably gonna happen that way, to be honest with you, but okay.

Oh, the world we live in. If this was a variety-type show or a news-type show or something, man, it would be so easy to have material every single day. It would just be hilarious, it really, really would be.

So I'm not sure what's going on with the calls here. I have some that look like they're ready to go, but for some reason the first line that I would normally go to isn't available, and Ridge isn't listening to me, so I don't know.

Okay, all right, so he finally heard me. Okay, so let's go to someone here. Let's talk to Dominick in New Jersey. Hi, Dominick. Hey, how you doing? Good.

Witnessing to Muslims and the Sufficiency of Scripture

Great. I was just wondering if you had any general advice when it comes to witnessing the Muslims? If I run into one on campus or something, I don't know what the starting point should be, or what, in your experience, is any general advice you have?

Well, all that has to do, of course, with what kind of a Muslim you're talking to. I mean, there are a tremendous number of nominal Muslims that you will encounter. They are Muslim in name only. Sort of a dividing line, honestly, would be whether they do the prayers or not.

And you can't necessarily tell that, but if you're getting into a conversation and it comes up, you know, I'm a Muslim, I'm a Christian, I don't think there's anything offensive about asking, what? That's interesting.

So you guys have, you folks have five daily prayers. Do you do those prayers regularly or just what? And that will give you an idea if you're talking about an observant Muslim, a person who actually is practicing the religion, or you're talking about a cultural Muslim.

They come from a Muslim nation. That still means that they'll have aspects of Islamic theology mixed in with their thinking. But if they're not actually practicing, obviously, they may have far more secular ideas than you would expect them to have.

And hence, there might be some topics you don't even want to, don't want to get into, because they wouldn't really be relevant because they're not practicing Muslims. Now, so leaving the non-practicing Muslims aside, then once you're talking to a practicing Muslim, you're, obviously what you have to do is, how much time do I have?

Is this a conversation that might be able to continue in the future? Are you sitting on a bus and you may never see this person again? Is this person someone you might see again on campus? You have to make, you have to do some thinking as to, is this a situation where I'm going to open a door for further conversation, or is this, I've got to assume this is the last shot I've got.

And so that's going to change, obviously, how you approach a situation. Obviously, it's more useful to be able to have further conversations down the road, to be able to give and take, learn about someone, communicate with someone.

If you're talking about a one-time encounter, like when I was in London a number of months ago, back when you could still do things like this, we were witnessing the people coming out of the train station.

And so I'm probably not going to talk to this person again. And so you want to get into something meaty that they can take away with them, something that they maybe never heard of before. Challenge them to be looking at the text of Scripture, to try to get them to read one of the Gospels.

It doesn't have to be John, by the way. They're so used to hearing that that you might actually be more successful getting to read Mark or Luke or Matthew or whatever. Any of the Gospels. If you can get them to read Scripture.

So you want to focus upon the main things. You want to focus upon the fact that even though they've been told about Jesus, the Jesus that they've heard is not the Jesus of Scripture, you want to try to get them exposed to that real Jesus over against the Jesus that is presented to them in Islam.

And if the subjects of salvation come up, then obviously you want to be prepared to deal with issues along the lines of the cross, the resurrection, the specific areas where Christians and Muslims have specific differences.

So, yeah, obviously there's a bunch of things right there that you want to be thinking through so that you can have a meaningful approach. And if it is someone, if it is a neighbor or something like that, then obviously establishing some kind of relationship that will allow you to sit down with your scriptures and get to know the person, that's really, really, really important because an observant Muslim has been taught certain things about what we allegedly believe that we don't believe.

But they're going to be, if it's just a one-time encounter, they're going to be more likely to question what you're saying. But if they get to know who you are, they get to know what your life is like and your commitment to Christ, so on and so forth, that can open up a whole lot of wonderful doors.

So, yeah, a bunch of stuff right there just to figure out where you want to start at. You obviously want to get to who the real Jesus is, but probably somewhere along the. You're also going to have to be dealing with the issue of the sufficiency of scripture, the consistency of the Christian scriptures, and the fundamental reality that the Quran, the author of the Quran did not understand what was in the Christian scriptures or what the Christian scriptures teach.

That's going to come up as well. And so fundamental issues concerning the nature of scripture and its reliability are always in the forefront in a discussion with Muslims, even if they're not observant Muslims.

They still are going to have that as a part of.

Their thinking. Okay, a good starting point is like who Jesus is and scripture as well.

Well, definitely, definitely. But then that's going to challenge the issues relating to the canon, the transmission, the text of scripture, all these things. Because if you want to say who is Jesus according to scripture, well, then that's going to raise the issue of, well, what is scripture?

And you're dealing with two different sets of scriptures. So that's an inevitable, unavoidable aspect of that particular discussion. And some people try to get around that by using the Quran as the mechanism of doing that.

I do not suggest that at all. I think the more exposure you can give them to the truly inspired word of God, the better. Okay. All right. Great. Okay. Thanks, Dominic. I hope you're doing all right over there in New Jersey.

That is one of the hotspots these days. So I hope you're doing well. All right. Thanks. You as well. All right. God bless. Bye-bye. All right. That's our first of three. We're just going to take the four calls, and I'm just going to try to go with whoever's been on hold longest.

So let's talk to Brandon. Hi, Brandon. Hey, James, how are you doing?

Cornelius, Total Inability, and Regeneration Before Faith

Doing good. You can mark me as another one who started, heard of King James Onlyism, went to go research it, found you on Wretched Radio, and then found Jeff, found R .C. Stroll, and a year later, I'm a five-point calvinist from an assembly of God.

Oh, okay. All right. It was a conservative assembly of God, but no tongues, but either way. My question is, I was talking to someone about total inability, and they used Acts 10 as evidence that man isn't totally unable to, or totally not able to respond to the gospel, or that he was, basically their point was that he was seeking God.

It was, he's supposed to be not able to do it, but he was a devout man who feared God, gave alms generously, and prayed continually. Right. So they were saying he was seeking God. So if total inability was true, then how was Cornelius seeking God?

I don't know, I'm relatively new to the, you know, five points, but I thought, can regeneration maybe happen beforehand, God change his heart, or is that type of giving alms, praying, not actually seeking God in the terms of,.

You know, what total inability would say? Well, remember, total inability does not mean, in fact, that man does not respond to God. Man does. Man responds to God in many different ways. It is an inability to submit oneself to God in repentance and faith, apart from regeneration that is at issue.

There is obvious, it's a normal straw man to represent what we're saying as if mankind is just senseless, and is just stone dead, and does not respond to anything. You have people like atheists who respond to the gospel with tremendous hatred.

I mean, just watch the debate from last year in Salt Lake City, you get a real good idea of how that works. Religion, false religion is a mechanism of responding by suppressing the knowledge of God. And so there can be very religious reactions.

Now, what you're looking at here is you have a description of him as a devout man who feared God with all his household, and gave many alms to Jewish people, and prayed to God continually. So, you have someone here who is called a God-fearer, and there's a fair amount of discussion in New Testament studies concerning the role of the God-fearers in the gospel goes outside of the land of Israel, and starts going into the Greek world.

You have these God-fearers being one of the major audiences that Paul focuses upon in his missions work, because they seem to be individuals where there is what you might call good ground. I mean, these are individuals who have been attracted by monotheism, they recognize the foolishness of polytheism, and so they're not worshiping the many gods, etc., etc., etc.

The idea that people have here is that if you believe in total depravity, then that means that every person is as evil as they possibly could be, and that's simply not the case. There's something called common grace, there is something, the simple reality is that there's another example a little bit later on in Acts of Lydia, who while godly, while gathering for prayer, that there weren't enough Jews to have an actual synagogue, but they're gathering at the river for prayer, still, what does the scripture say God has to do?

He has to open her heart to hear the message. And so, you can have people who give alms, you can have people who pray and do all sorts of things, but the issue is when the message of the gospel itself is delivered, and this is a message that requires a turning and an acceptance of the risen Savior, what was Jesus' teaching concerning that subject?

Even when he was standing in front of people who could see him as clearly as day, still, he said, no one can come to me unless it's granted by the Father. And so, it's simply what you have is people who are wanting to try to get around the clear testimony of scripture on that particular subject by implicit argumentation that, well, Cornelius, I mean, he fears God, and so that must mean that he was regenerate or something along these lines.

Now, this does get you into another area, and that is people have disputation, argumentation about the time frame that exists between regeneration and faith. For the vast majority of people, there isn't much of a time expression there.

In other words, they come together. But there are people, like Charles Haddon Spurgeon, who gave testimony that there was a period of time in their life when they were greatly troubled by their sin and yet did not come to faith in Christ for a matter of weeks or months, and that this was a very trying time for them and a very difficult time for them.

And this raises questions concerning, well, can we identify the exact point of location of a person's regeneration and what's the nature of that, so on and so forth. And there are arguments about that.

One thing that has to be affirmed is any person who's been regenerated will believe and repent, unlike what certain people in the early church taught, where you could actually be regenerated and then eventually lost.

That would be a problematic understanding. But so yeah, if someone wants to look at Acts 10 and go, well, I'm going to imply from the description of Cornelius the following things. Well, if he was all that good, why even have to worry about going through all the effort he did to send Peter to proclaim the gospel to him?

He still needed to believe. There still needed to be delivery of that message. And so it's a matter of taking the whole testimony of Scripture and not taking one section and going, well, I'm going to imply that it means this, and therefore I'm no longer going to believe the plain statements of Scripture that says no one's able to come to me unless the Father sent me, draws him, and texts like that.

So allowing all of Scripture to speak is always the answer to how we come to our conclusions.

Okay. I guess what he's taking is a positive disposition, I guess, or a non-negative disposition and saying, oh, well, that's speaking, but there's a difference between the speaking and just having a kind of friendly disposition towards God.

Well, look, I would say that if Cornelius looked back, he would see the grace of God involved in his life all along. That's not the same thing as saying, well, as soon as God's grace starts working in a person's life, that means they have to be regenerate.

God can work in someone's life and protect them from making wildly dangerous decisions that would scar them in a way that God would not want them to be scarred so that he can use them in the kingdom in a particular way.

So in other words, God may not choose to bring someone to a knowledge of their own, who Christ is, bring them to regeneration until their early 20s, and yet by grace, protect them in their mid-teens from doing things that would then result in situations where they wouldn't be able to be used the way that God wants to use them.

So for example, Paul, God wants to use Paul, but could God's grace have kept Paul from doing something three months before his encounter on the Damascus road that would have fundamentally diminished his ability to function the way that God wants him to function later in life?

Obviously. So once you start trying to second-guess God's sovereignty, it never works out really well for.

Anybody. Yeah, definitely. All right, well, thank you for that answer. Thank you for all you do,.

And God bless, guys. All right, thanks, Brandon. God bless. Bye-bye. Bye. All righty, so line one, and let's talk to Connor. Hi, Connor. Hey, Dr. White. You're in the People's Republic of.

California. Yeah. I'm not a big fan of this state, to be honest with you, but.

Hopefully I can get out of here. Yeah, well, you're stuck now. I understand. They've blocked all the exits, so you have to pay all the extra taxes. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, I don't want to.

Stay here. What can we do for you? So I used to be a Mormon myself. When I was 14, I joined the Mormon Church, and then by the time I was almost 15, I had actually left the Mormon Church. So I was pretty quick in that, just because of the certain doctrines that they have, sort of exaltation, such as the polytheism and all that kind of stuff, but they don't teach you until you're about 18.

Right. So when I found that out on my own, I was very confused, and then I came upon Apologia, and you guys are just preaching over at the Mormon temples and stuff. Right. I started learning about it, but now that I'm a five-point Calvinist, thanks to you guys, I don't know exactly how to be able to preach to Mormons in a way that they understand both the Calvinist point of view and the mainstream Christian point of view at the same time.

Does that make sense? I don't know how to be able to preach that to them so they are understanding my terminology versus mainstream Christian terminology. Right, right. Yeah, well,.

It's interesting, the tracts that we pass out, that we have passed out in the past in Mesa and up in Salt Lake City, a couple of them we specifically wrote to scratch that itch, to hit that target, to really cause a Mormon to stop and go, what?

For example, we have a tract called No Man is Able, and especially given the Mormon understanding of the nature of man and his abilities and the fact that he's the same species as God and so on and so forth, that really catches their attention.

What do you mean, no man is able? No man is able to do what? And immediately you're into a presentation, and some, not many, but some did fairly early on go, wow, that's not what other Christians have told me.

You guys seem a little bit different, and now you've got the opportunity of saying, well, there's this thing called the Reformation and so on and so forth, so you can jump into it from there. But yeah, that is one of the challenges that we have, is that a Mormon who has had conversation and encounter with mainstream evangelical Christians will tend to reinterpret our words in a way that we don't intend them to be interpreted.

So you end up sort of with double linguistic challenges, because the Mormon's going to use their own terminology, their own definitions of words, it's going to be very, very different than the Christian definition, and then you have the second layer that they're going to assume that you're saying the things that have been said to them by someone they met on the sidewalk or something along those lines.

So there is a necessary level of thought that goes into the utilization of language. You might want to watch, you probably have watched it, but last October, Jeff and Luke and I had the opportunity of talking to a couple who were leaving the LDS church, and we were answering some of those final questions that they had, and you'll see that both of us are putting out an extra effort to listen to what we...

I'm not sure how Jeff would describe it, but for me, I'm sort of running through my mind what I'm saying before I say it, and then listening to it to see if any of the terminology that I'm using could possibly get interpreted the wrong way.

And in fact, there was one point where I think Jeff was speaking, and I could tell that something he had said had been picked up by one of the two people through the filter in a way that was not what he had intended.

And you'll see me jump in and correct it before he gets too much farther down the road. Not correcting him, but correcting the misapprehension, because I could see, since I wasn't talking, that I could be observing.

I could see that something had triggered a level of confusion just simply because of the translation issues that we all always have to deal with. So yeah, obviously, that's an extra level of work to be done, but at the same time, there's almost nothing that will get you past a lot of the standard objections than to go straight into saying or presenting a Reformed understanding of the Gospel, because the Mormon is rarely prepared for that.

They've heard the other stuff. They've got their pat answers, but predestination, election, what? What are you talking about? So that can actually get you straight through to the important stuff fairly quickly.

Yeah, exactly. I had a friend that went.

On a mission over in Chicago, and I guess they're now allowed to use Instagram. So he and his companion, they messaged me, and they were asking about what Reformed Baptists mean. I was trying to explain to him, and he gave me a whole LDS essay about addressing the issues of Calvinism.

About 900 pages. 900 pages? It was 900 pages written by an LDS guy, and then one of the chapters was refuting predestination. It was just grace, all that kind of stuff. And they were only using the Bible, not the Book of Mormon or anything, just trying to disprove our claim.

And I've never actually debated a Mormon on predestination until that day. And then actually today, I'm meeting with Mormon missionaries as well. I want to talk to them about it too, because they have questions.

But it's really interesting messing with that terminology versus mainstream Christianity, and then the Reformed understanding of the Gospel, to a Mormon that has such a.

Different Gospel than we do. It's really difficult at times. Oh no, it's difficult but necessary, and it's not difficult because the belief is difficult. It's difficult because Mormonism has such a man-centered understanding.

Mormonism does not have a God in the sense that biblical Christianity does. I mean, think about it. Fundamental to the understanding of Reformed theology is the absolute holiness of God, and part of holiness means absolute otherness.

But the central teaching of Mormonism is He's not other. He is the same species as we are. It's a continuum of existence. We are of the same order of being, just at different levels of exaltation. And so, yeah, there's a fundamental problem there that has to be communicated, and it's definitely very, very challenging.

So I hope you have a good time with the missionaries. Hopefully they don't have to wear masks. I don't know about you. This whole mask thing right now is driving me insane because I can't understand what anybody is saying who's wearing one.

So you could end up really struggling with the communication if they're wearing masks. That'd be rough. Before you let him go, real quick, Connor, on our website at the top, you're going to see a banner ad for the Christian Message, and if you're meeting with missionaries today or soon, if you click in there, while you can't get the track in that, you know, period of time, there's a PDF of the content of it.

So you can read what it says and have something in presentation form for you to be able to have at your disposal. Oh, that's fantastic. I'll.

Definitely check that out, because I talk to Mormon missionaries about every week about a variety of topics. I'm only 16, so I struggle with doing that at times, being able to go places, but recently I've had a lot of missionaries reach out to me just randomly because they're at home, so I've been doing a lot more preaching and reading.

Yeah, they're probably bored, too. Yeah, exactly. They called me yesterday, like, hey, Connor, how are you doing? Can I share a message with you from the Book of Mormon? I'm like, sure, and they start going to Moroni or something like that, and I tell them, I'm like, well, by the way, I'm not a member, I'm actually an ex-member, and they're like, oh, interesting.

And then we start that whole topic and stuff, and I'm like, yeah, it's going to be fun. All right, well, thanks for calling,.

Connor, I appreciate it. Thank you, absolutely. Have a good day. All right, bye-bye. All right, one more call here. I should have mentioned, Connor, if you're still listening, real important, I hope you've got a good church to go to.

I know the churches, most churches in California aren't meeting, even though, hey, the president told everybody to do it next week, so I think now's time to obey Romans 13. But especially at your age, you need good, solid elders.

They're actual elders, biblical elders, not the elders of the LDS church elders. Highly recommend that to you. One more call, let's talk to Willis. Hi, Willis. Hello, how are you, Dr. Wyatt? Doing good.

Wrath, Adam and Christ, and the Timing of Regeneration

I could not tell you're from West Virginia at all. I could not tell that, I never would have guessed it. You're my best partner. Well, it's all over on the other side of the Mississippi.

Anyways, right? Yeah, I wanted to thank Dean. I didn't have a voice like that at 16, but yes, he said he's 16. I mean, I was amazed when he said that, and then, but the question is, I know Brandy points, Lee, if we're not in, we are children of wrath, but how to solve this, you see what I'm saying?

Because John 3, John 3, 36 says that, you know, disobedience, so when we get, it also says the elect will never, I can't reconcile this, so I'm asking you to reconcile.

Yeah, yeah. Well, I think that you were very close to it there when you're noting the fact that Romans 5 is probably the point of reconciliation, and that is that there the apostle says that we are in Adam, and that's why there is death, that's why there is the fall, that's why there is wrath, is that we are in Adam.

And so, if we are only in Adam, then we can only receive from Adam what Adam receives, and that would include wrath. And so, notice it says, we were, it uses the past tense there, we were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest.

So, we truly were in Adam, and now we truly are in Christ, and others remain only in Adam. That's why there is the distinction between the two. And so, what Romans 9 is looking at is the final outcome, because it talks about how he's expressing his mercy.

Well, that mercy is what brings about a person receiving regeneration, faith, the grace of God, forgiveness, adoption, everything else that comes with that, and hence being one of those vessels made by the potter to be in the house, not to be used for common use, but for special use.

But the reality is that there is a period of time in this life before we experience that gracious act whereby regeneration takes place, and we are we are sensible of repentance, of faith, of the message of the gospel, and never are we held accountable for the eternal aspect of these things.

We, God made us as time-bound creatures, he holds us accountable only for that which can be understood by time-bound creatures. And so, there is going, there are going to be those texts of scripture that are going to talk about the before and after in our experience.

So, we were children of wrath, we were walking in the lusts of the flesh, indulging desires of the flesh and the mind, this is where we were. Now, graciously, in some people's experience, that was a short period of time.

For others, they can testify it was a long period of time. For others, they could say it was, even in their unregenerate state, God protected them from many things. But others would say, there wasn't anything I was protected from.

And so, there's every kind of person that is going to have that before and after understanding and perspective. And from the eternal view, either from eternity past or eternity future, we can look back and go, yeah, those were always the ones that God had set his favor upon, and their salvation was certain.

But that's from eternity, and that's not a perspective that we currently are able to inhabit or even begin to understand. So, when talking about what God's grace has done in our lives and how God's grace has broken in and changed us and everything else, from our perspective, this is exactly how we have experienced God's work within us.

And we confess that, just as the rest, we were no different in the sense that we loved all these things just like they love all these things. And that's where our heart was, and that's where our desires were.

Because if we say otherwise, then we are really saying that there is something special about us that drew God's love or drew God's mercy or whatever else it might be. The reality is, until a person bows the knee to Jesus Christ, they're under the wrath of God.

And since we don't know what God is going to do, we don't know what the eternal decree is, that's the only message that we have to proclaim. We don't have one message and then we sit back and go, I wonder if that's one of the elect.

I'm going to watch real closely, then I'll give them some more information. No, we aren't called to do that. That's hardshellism. Huh? That's hardshellism. Oh yeah, you bet. See, a lot of folks don't know what that means, because out here in this part of the country, no one's ever heard of hardshellism.

There's a few around here. Oh, there are. You bet, believe there are. If anyone's wondering what he's talking about, we're talking about a form of hyper-Calvinism, and it's evangelism amongst those folks involves looking for evidences of regeneration, seeing if someone's elect so that you can then give them the other information.

No, we don't do that. We don't find the apostles doing that, and so we oppose that. But anyway, so I don't think it's a matter of having to harmonize, as it is just understanding the differing perspectives.

Romans 9 is giving us that overall eternal perspective from God's perspective as how He sees things, and then in talking to people about, among them, we too all formerly lived in the lusts of the flesh.

Well, that's the redeemed talking to the other redeemed about what we've been redeemed out of, and that's a very time-bound understanding, but that's still a very real understanding as well. Willis, here's the real question.

Could you enjoy it again? No. No, definitely not. There's a difference. No, no, no, no. Yeah, there's a difference. Right, right, right. There is the first two words, first three words of Ephesians 2, 4, but God being rich and merciful.

So that's the, it's not you, it wasn't Willis that did it, it wasn't James that did it, it was God that did.

That, and that's why the heart is changed. Maybe you could do a debate against each other. Yes. That was me that sells the reformed grumble. That was me. But that was just a call for something.

Yeah, that's about, that'd be about it. Yeah, that'd be about it.

That was me, so, but listen, thanks again for taking my call, and thank you and Brother Rich.

For helping my ministry and today. Thank you. Thank you very much for your call. God bless. Bye-bye. Thank you. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. All right, Willis from West Virginia. Thanks for the phone calls today, getting us started on the program with all of that.

They're always good calls, and you never know what's going to necessarily be under those blinking lights, but it is good to see. Um, uh, yes, people on Twitter are going, uh, there, there's, I'm not gonna get into it.

I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna get into it. I'm not gonna do it. I, I, I don't know why Trump does the things that Trump does. Um, oh, I will say this. Let me, did y 'all, did y 'all see the latest? Well, there's been a couple gaffes.

There's probably about seven or eight gaffes per day. If, if anybody really added them up, I guess recently Joe Biden said something about, you know, I'm the only one that can really show, show us how to beat Joe Biden.

And, and you're sort of like, you know, there's actually an element of truth to that. When you think about it, that's not what he meant to say. He doesn't know that he meant to say that. Um, but there is an element of truth to that.

But, but I was listening to his incredibly racist statement that came out today that, you know, if you're confused as whether you're for me or for Trump, then you're not really black. And look, these people think they own the black vote because they do.

I mean, 97%, they just, they just count on it. But did you listen to him as he was speaking? He was, he was trying to do a voice just like Hillary Clinton has tried to do the voice and, and Obama did the voice, even though Obama didn't come from that type of a culture.

But, um, and it was, it was just, it was so bad and the Babylon, no, no, uh, Eric Metaxas caught it. He caught that he was doing it. And so he went right back at him with it, just doing the almost, um, Jar Jar Binks level bad, um, slaughtering of the English language.

And of course, Jonathan Merritt then responds, that's never funny to make fun of how someone speaks as a Christian. Totally missing the fact that Biden had literally, literally in the midst of being blatantly racist had then done it with an affected voice.

It was just like, Oh, there's going to be, I, I can not possibly see how that man can run for president from his basement. He's not leaving. It's going to be somebody else. It's going to be, that's going to be part of the big stuff next month.

Is that next month? Is it June is when there is June is when they're supposed to have their convention. Who knows? I don't know, but I, I can't, I can't see it happening. I did. He's going to come out and say, obviously I've got problems.

Uh, I'm 77 years old and I've got issues. And so we're going to give it to this person or whatever. And you know, who he's reminding me of is the guy that was with Ross Perot as the vice president. When he went into the debate and he looks to the camera, he goes, who am I and why am I here?

And that sunk the whole thing right there. Game over. Well, that was a different day because I could see, I could see old Joe looking at the camera going, who am I and why am I here? Yeah, it's the man should be protected by his family.

He shouldn't be running for public office, but there you go. Uh, that's, that's what's happening. What a, what a day we live in. Anyway, I was that, that, that happened today and it's going to be happening pretty much every day, uh, for the next number of months along with everything else.