What took me YEARS will take you SECONDS! (with Scott Lindsey)

Wise Disciple

Subscribe

Download

Share

00

00:00

What if you could answer the toughest questions about the Christian faith without going to seminary? Today, I'm going to show you how using one simple tool.

00:07

So every week I get questions like, did Jesus really claim to be God? What happens after we die? How do we know the

00:13

Bible hasn't been changed? These are serious questions. And the truth is, you don't need a theology degree to find solid answers.

00:19

Not today. In this episode, I'm joined by Scott Lindsey from Logos Bible Software. And together, we're going to tackle some of the most common, most important questions about the

00:27

Christian faith. But here's what makes this video special. We're going to show you how to get the answers for yourself.

00:33

You'll get a window into how I research, how I study, and how I get clarity on tough theological issues using

00:39

Logos. Why am I doing this? Let's face it, I'm not going to be around forever. So I want you to be able to have the tools you need to do what

00:47

I do. If you've ever wanted to go deeper in your faith faster, this is where to start. Welcome back to Wise Disciple.

00:56

My name is Nate, and I'm helping you become the effective Christian that you are meant to be. Which means learning what the Scripture says about the toughest questions.

01:03

Make sure to like, sub, and share this one around if it blesses you. All right. Today, we're going to interrogate

01:09

Scripture. But in order to do that, I'm actually bringing my friend Scott Lindsey of Logos on.

01:15

Scott, welcome back to Wise Disciple. It's good to be here. I'm actually excited to get into this.

01:21

So I have posed about five questions. I'm going to throw them at you. And then you help me take it to the

01:28

Scripture, and we'll talk about it. Okay? So here's the first question. You ready for this?

01:35

I'm ready. Did Jesus claim to be God? Let me just point out that there's kind of two ways to ask the question.

01:43

You can ask your books. That's again, Carson, Randy Alcorn, whoever, again, is in the

01:49

Logos library. Or the Bible. And I want to actually do both. But I'm going to go ahead and click it here on books.

01:55

And you'll see with the new Logos, there is the AI smart search. And I'm going to type the question that you just asked.

02:04

And it was, did Jesus claim to be God? Okay.

02:10

Yeah. With a question mark. Now, old Logos couldn't handle more than about one word. So what

02:15

I really like, because we built language models into the searching, it understands language and understands concepts and understands theology.

02:23

So I'm going to type, did Jesus claim to be God? Hit enter. Now, as I scroll down here,

02:29

I've got a lot of different resources. One of which, one of my favorites is Baker Encyclopedia of Christian Apologetics.

02:35

And I could click the article where someone waxed eloquently theologically on, again, the idea or the question, did

02:44

Jesus claim to be God? Well, what's interesting is the new AI summarization feature. Well, hold on, hold on here,

02:51

Scott. I can already see Baker's answer. So you have it highlighted there and maybe they highlighted it for you.

02:57

But look at that. Jesus accepted worship on numerous occasions showing he claimed to be God. It's right there.

03:03

That's great. Now the highlighting, this is new to you because I know you're a Logos power user. Do you know what the highlighting is?

03:10

I don't. The highlighting is what I've already read over here in the preview. So when

03:15

I open it, I know where to continue reading, which is actually a huge time -saver because it's like, okay,

03:21

I already read that little first couple, two, three lines, and then I clicked and said, Hey, I want to read the whole article

03:26

I now know to start right here with, and a ruler knelt before him with a request, right?

03:32

So just kind of about efficiency, right? I've already read that first paragraph. Where do I continue? But what's really cool in the new

03:39

Logos is AI summarization. Now this article out of Baker's four or five pages long,

03:44

I could click this and Logos now is providing a summarization of that pretty lengthy article.

03:52

So what's amazing about this is I now can summarize, summarize, and summarize.

03:58

I mean, that might've been 40, 50 pages worth of content that I just literally summarized.

04:05

And the other thing is all of this now is on the Logos mobile app. So, and that's where I have questions, right?

04:11

I was telling you, I was recently in Singapore, there was a theological debate going on at the table with this group that I was with.

04:18

And I was able to just jump into the Logos mobile app, ask the question on the phone, summarize the answer and so on and so forth.

04:26

But it's even better because at the top, there's a new feature now called Synopsis, where Logos will literally go find top articles.

04:36

I'm looking down here, June Hunt, phenomenal with regards to biblical counseling. So obviously, you know, she's referencing something,

04:43

Norm Geisler. I've even got a sermon by Greg Laurie. But again, it went and found key articles in my lore library, stitched them together.

04:53

And then I've got the copy button. So the reason why I asked this question is because it's been making the rounds lately.

04:59

Alex O 'Connor went up against David Wood in a debate, and that has caused this question to come to the fore for a lot of people.

05:07

And so, yeah, if people are doing a Google search or something like that, and they might get Alex's answer, who is an atheist, right?

05:14

But yeah, so what is the answer according to the commentaries that we have, brothers and sisters who have done the research for us?

05:24

Yeah, it says, according to the articles, I'm just literally reading the synopsis that Logos brought back in about a second, just said,

05:30

Jesus indeed claimed to be God in various ways because He equated Himself with the I Am of the

05:36

Hebrew Bible. So all the I Am statements, we've got, you know, I think one of your favorite passages there in John, I and the

05:43

Father are one, which Jews interpreted as a claim to divinity, right?

05:50

So again, not having to weed through, like you said, it's a sad fact of the matter.

05:56

I've been doing this now for 28 years. A disturbing trend that I've seen over the last four or five years is the church is now going to Google for its theology.

06:05

Now, not a safe place, great place for recipes, great place for travel, not a good place to ask questions about theology or the

06:16

Bible. So again, this was a question that we asked, did Jesus claim to be God of my books?

06:22

But let me flip it over now to Bible, and this is new. This literally just released a few weeks ago. Now I'm asking, did

06:28

Jesus in the scripture claim to be God? And when I hit enter, there are the passages.

06:35

Now, again, we've already talked about John 10, but I've got Mark, I've got Colossians, for in him the whole fullness of the deity dwells.

06:41

But again, these are the passages of scripture that kind of prove that Jesus did claim to be

06:49

God. Now, let's just say somebody sees John 10, and we've heard this probably in defense, again, of the divinity of Christ.

06:58

So I am the Father of one. If I click the reference itself, the

07:04

Bible will open, and there's a new feature in Logos called Insights. I have a commentary, okay?

07:10

Now I can click more and read more for that particular passage that I'm at. I've also got a study

07:16

Bible, our good friend, Sean McDowell, his apologetic study Bible. He was one of the main editors there.

07:22

I've also got related passages. I even can get into textual history. But the big idea here is as I scroll through the biblical text, notice what automatically is happening over on the right -hand side of the screen.

07:37

And what's great is what I have open right now is Pillar Commentary. And if I float my cursor,

07:43

I find out that D .A. Carson is the author of the Gospel of John Pillar Commentary volume.

07:50

And that's a pretty good guy to ask the question, hey, what's going on here in John?

07:56

You know, my little joke, if you will, is how many of you watching made a

08:02

New Year's resolution to read the Bible through in 2025, and then you hit

08:07

Leviticus, right? Now, I can type in Leviticus 1. I'm just changing the reference of my

08:13

Bible. And again, what happened automatically in the new Insights panel?

08:19

My commentary went right there. So when I get down here to burnt offerings and blemishes and atonement language and Aaron's sons and priests and so on, when

08:29

I get confused, if you will, I now have scholarship right there at the passage

08:35

I'm at. And again, this is a new feature now on mobile. I make my pastor,

08:40

Nate, a little nervous. My pastor's name is actually Nate because I have my iPad on the front row.

08:47

And when he's preaching, I'm literally tracking. I'm going to key commentaries.

08:54

I'm looking at Bible dictionary articles and so on and so forth. But this is a new feature that is on mobile as well.

09:01

And again, it's called Insights. So let's go back to the question, and let's recap for the audience here.

09:09

So we asked the question, did Jesus claim to be God? We started off with the commentary, and these are guys who are biblical scholars, maybe they're apologists, and they are talking about specific passages from the scripture.

09:23

That's helpful. Scott, let me ask you this. That's helpful because they're going to guide our interpretive process and keep us within the guardrails, so to speak, of Orthodox interpretation, right?

09:36

Exactly right. Exactly right. Yeah, much better source material. And again, there's

09:43

AI out there, but I don't think the question that a lot of people are asking is, where is the answer coming from, right?

09:49

It gave me an answer. Hey, that's great. But sometimes I don't think it's great because the source material for that answer is actually heretical.

09:58

There are people on the internet that are writing a lot about theology and the Bible that actually hate the Bible and have a

10:05

PhD and went to a seminary, right? And if you don't know that, I mean, I don't know about you,

10:11

Nate, but I have friends that their faith has become a little shipwrecked because they went to a really bad source for a great question.

10:20

I mean, God is not afraid of a single question that we ask. He is truth. But then they went to a wrong source and again got stumbled a bit because of the heretical answer that they found on the internet.

10:33

So with this answer, again, if you could scroll back up to the synopsis, they're telling us that he made

10:41

I Am statements, identifying himself with the God of the Old Testament. He also accepted worship.

10:48

He asserted that he should be honored, just as the Father is honored. And he claimed to have equal authority with God.

10:55

Now that, to me, actually is a pretty powerful moment, and that's in John 10, which if you flip over with the questions, you go to the

11:02

Bible answers for the question, John 10 is right up there at the very top. So it's John 10, it's

11:07

John 8, it's John 14. If you've seen me, you've seen the

11:12

Father. This is really good. I feel like we have what we need, the pieces there, to draw the right conclusion.

11:21

Very good. Well, let's do it again. And on your phone. And on your phone.

11:27

They can do this on their phone. So let me give you another commonly asked question. You ready? Ready. What does the

11:32

Bible really teach about hell? Okay. Again, two ways to ask that question.

11:39

One, let's go to my books. Commentaries. I mean, all my books. It's not just commentaries. I mean, hundreds and hundreds of titles in the

11:47

Logos library, and that's what AI is kind of scouring. So, what, again, what does the

11:56

Bible teach about hell, right? So again, this is me, and I wish you could actually see my office here, because I've got books everywhere, shelves everywhere, closets full of books.

12:10

And again, I think that's a wise investment, right? But the problem with that investment is, again, I can't carry my books around.

12:17

And it's really, it's a searching issue, if you will. Books are great, but when you need an answer, where was it, right?

12:24

I've read most of the books in my office, but I can't remember where things are. So again, I could go,

12:30

I've got journals, such as Nine Marks, I've got Wycliffe, Article on Hell. I've got a Concise Theology on Historic Christian Beliefs by a little -known scholar,

12:41

J .I. Packer, right? Oh, wow. And I could read it, right? And I love to read

12:46

Packer. Actually, Packer lived, no joke, Nate, about 35 miles from my house, just right across the border.

12:54

Oh, wow. Got to spend a lot of time, actually, with Dr. Packer before he passed away.

13:00

Let's take a look at the, I love this sentence right here. This is Packer. The concept of hell is of a negative relationship to God and experience not of his absence so much as of his presence in wrath and displeasure.

13:13

Scott, this is actually a question that came up. I was doing a live stream, and not to derail, but somebody had asked, well, wait a second, if God is omnipresent, will he be in hell?

13:23

Essentially, that was the question. And that was the answer I gave, so I feel like I'm in good company here with Packer, so that's very great.

13:31

Very good company. Yes, exactly right. And again, so what I'll do, again, kind of my cadence now with AI and Logos, is

13:37

I'll go find my answer from key resources, again, Wycliffe and Packer and so on, and then I'll just hit

13:43

Summarize on a bunch of these, and then read the summarization and go, oh, I really like where Packer's going with this.

13:50

And then you just click the header, and the full article opens on the right. But again, if I go back up here to the top,

13:57

Logos actually provided an answer from multiple sources, right? So again, we could read the whole thing, but we're going to read this, and it's going to be a really good answer to the question, what does the

14:10

Bible teach about hell? That again is me asking my books, the scholars, the authors inside of Logos.

14:18

Yeah, the Bible teaches that hell is a place of future punishment for the wicked. It is described as a place of eternal torment.

14:24

According to the Bible, hell was originally prepared for the devil and his angels, not for humans. The concept of hell involves a negative relationship with God, experiencing his wrath, displeasure, and that's the

14:32

Packer reference that you read. There it is. However, the

14:37

Bible emphasizes the reality of hell is worse than one can be imagined, right? Wow. Yeah, I actually think this is kind of a doctrine that is not preached enough in the church today, honestly.

14:49

Come on. Here we go. Yeah, I mean, we were all going to church 100 years ago.

14:55

They talked about hell quite a bit. And honestly, when I came to faith, Nate, I was in the military stationed at Luke Air Force Base, and the message that night was about this, and I'm not, it scared the hell out of me, literally.

15:09

There you go. There you go. Literally, like I had never been confronted with the reality of God's displeasure and wrath and hell, and it motivated me to, you know, accept

15:23

Christ. I love it. It's so good. And so the thing is, when I became a

15:29

Christian, I got stationed, actually, this is during Desert Storm, deployments everywhere.

15:35

I remember going with a duffel bag, because you're allowed two on deployment, and filling it in a Christian bookstore, read all those resources.

15:44

But again, the problem was, I could never remember where was that thing I read, right?

15:49

That is the, we're kind of living right now in the golden years, if you will, of AI, in the right context, where to have key biblical commentary, such as Packer, such as Nine Marks, such as we saw

16:04

Geisler and Randy Alcorn, and get an answer from them is really incredible.

16:11

But again, that's me asking books. But if we flip it now to Bible, and hit enter on the same question, well, this is what the

16:19

Bible itself says. So we've got Luke, we've got Revelation, 2 Thessalonians, Jude 7, so on.

16:25

And I like that, because sometimes I want to know, hey, I just want to know, what does the Bible say about this?

16:32

And then sometimes I want to know, what do the scholars in Logos say about this? So they did a great job.

16:39

That Mark 9 passage, I mean, speaking of frightening, it is quite frightening. For those who would want to say that hell is not a reality, this is what always gets me,

16:50

Scott. It's like, they want to metaphorize hell until it's nothing, until there's no reference whatsoever for the metaphor, when in reality,

16:58

Mark 9, and it's right there, Jesus says, if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It's better for you to enter life crippled than with two hands and to go to hell.

17:07

So yeah, hell is a— Unquenchable fire, yes. That's right. Yeah. Yeah, that's right.

17:13

I mean, this is taking it very seriously, if the Lord is saying, listen, cut your hand off.

17:20

Yeah. That, because of the reality of hell and unquenchable fire and so on.

17:26

But again, we've got two ways to ask Logos questions. I just want everybody to realize the power of this, and again, power of this on mobile, but do you want to ask your books, or do you want to ask the

17:38

Bible itself? Yeah. Well, let's do this. I want to throw you a curveball, because to me now, this particular question is—there's multiple avenues to go here, you know?

17:49

On the one sense, there's probably a logical answer to this question. In another sense, this is a very pastoral question that induces a lot of emotion, and so it's very difficult to navigate, you know, especially for the pastors in the audience.

18:04

Let me ask it this way. If God is good, why does

18:10

He allow suffering? Okay. So that's a very wordy, nuanced question that, again, old

18:19

Logos, you would have got not much, right? Because again, it did not understand language.

18:26

So for 32 years, if people don't know, we've been doing this for 32 years now, and have literally asked just about every question possible theologically to books and to the

18:37

Bible. What we're now doing is delivering those databases, if you will, and those language models to you via mobile, desktop, and so on.

18:46

But that's a pretty nuanced question. So here we go. You said, if God is good, why does

18:56

He allow—I've got to do my capital H there, Nate, because of my NASB days, so sorry for those.

19:03

Okay. No, I'm with you. I'm with you. Yeah, yeah. And if you don't, there'll be those that are like, ah, he didn't capitalize the

19:10

T. So if God is good, why does He allow suffering? That's right.

19:15

Now again, we're asking my theology, my books, right? So we're going to get counseling on evil and suffering.

19:22

We're going to get—there's a great study Bible that we built in the Logos called the Faith Life Study Bible, which is basically the name of our organization.

19:30

Logos is the software, but Faith Life. So we spent a pretty penny developing,

19:37

I honestly think, the best study Bible ever written, which is included. And this is an article on why

19:43

God allows suffering. And look at this. I mean, it's all good. It's about Joseph, the good of the cross, suffering in God's purpose.

19:50

And when I get down to the bottom here, Randy Alcorn wrote it, right? So that's a good guy to ask that question.

19:56

One of my—actually, hold on here. One of my favorite books is Randy's book, If God is

20:01

Good, where he spent years researching—because that's kind of the question a non -believer or atheist would try to trump you and me, the

20:12

Christian, on, okay, God is great, good, love. Okay, why does he then allow suffering?

20:19

And Randy actually tackles it eloquently and concisely. Great. I mean, we're getting ready here for Easter.

20:27

The cross, that's the ultimate proclamation of God using bad, evil for good, right?

20:39

I love what he says there. The cross is God's answer to the question, why don't you do something about evil?

20:44

God did do something. That did, right, exactly. It was powerful. That's right. It says, the question of why God allows suffering is complex and has been addressed by various religious perspectives.

20:54

According to some articles, God may permit suffering to bring about greater good to achieve God's specific purposes.

21:00

For instance, one article—so this is the other thing I really want to point out. Logos isn't necessarily providing an answer.

21:10

What it's doing is citing your sources. So let's take something like baptism, which there is nuance in the church, right?

21:18

Are you Southern Baptist or are you Presbyterian, right? Are you full immersion adult confession, you know, or is baptizing babies good or kosher, if you will, in your theological perspective?

21:33

So Logos is going to literally say that. It's going to say, well, this segment of the church or this article or this scholar says this, but then there's another view on this side of the coin, right?

21:49

So notice what it's saying. One article mentions how the Apostle Paul's imprisonment led to the spread of the gospel.

21:57

That's a great example of someone suffering, right? So listen, Paul and especially

22:05

John the Baptist kind of throw a monkey wrench into the theological idea that once you become a

22:15

Christian, it's just tiptoe through the tulips, right? It's just your best life now.

22:22

And listen, Jesus said there was no person born of a woman greater than John the Baptist. And the last thing we see is his head on a platter, right?

22:31

Now, listen, that's quite an accolade from Christ to say greatest person born and head on a platter.

22:38

And why was his head on a platter? It wasn't even like he was preaching on this. It was some drunk teenager that mom kind of manipulated and said, you know, do you see what

22:50

I'm saying? It's like, that's not the way the story should have gone according to some theological perspective.

22:57

Or look at Paul's life. Are you kidding me? Is anyone going to say that Paul wasn't a righteous man, godly man, serving

23:05

Jesus to the end and look at his life and his suffering, right?

23:11

That's a good example. In Acts chapter nine, his conversion story,

23:16

Jesus says, and it's a promise that he is my Saul, is my instrument that I've chosen in order to suffer.

23:24

So there is this presupposition, I think, that underlies that's incorrect for most people, and especially skeptics who don't believe in God, which is that our lives should be completely suffer -free, and that is just not the case.

23:36

The Lord obviously has a purpose for suffering, and there is much that can be done, redemptively speaking, for suffering.

23:43

And that comes out in the biblical passages, and so you were going to show us where some of those passages were.

23:50

Yeah, and I just want to point out here, Joseph, if someone was to ask me, give me, outside of Jesus Christ himself, cross, all the suffering that Christ endured for us,

24:04

Joseph's my second faith, or maybe it's Paul, maybe it's Joseph three, but there it is again, saying

24:10

Joseph is a biblical story that illustrates again why

24:15

God allows suffering. It was for the good of his family, the good of Israel. I mean, that's amazing.

24:21

Now, I'm going to flip that question out of the Bible and hit enter, and here are the passages that allude to that, right?

24:28

Romans 8, 28 is probably the most memorized verse for anybody to ask that question, right?

24:34

That we know that for those who love God, all things work together for the good, right?

24:40

Work all according to his purpose. We got James, we got Romans, we got... So, you know, if I was suffering through something, or if I had a friend suffering through something and asked me, like, is kind of having some doubt going on, these would be the passages that I would meditate on myself personally, or that I would send to someone, because suffering is evidenced all through...

25:06

I mean, you just have to go to the book of Psalms, let's just say, right? And you see the suffering that David and others endured, and yet God worked it out, right?

25:17

Why does Logos list the certain passages in the order that it does?

25:22

So I noticed right at the very top, it was Romans 8 first. Why that one? Is that because that's the one that's most sort of searched, or it's most popular somehow?

25:33

Yeah, yeah. Again, for 32 years, we, over a million users, right? And we have been watching, if you will, what questions people ask, right?

25:44

Actually, I'm able to actually provide to, let's say, Randy Alcorn on his book,

25:49

Heaven, that people have downloaded in Logos, what people have searched on that book, right?

25:55

Which is incredibly insightful for an author. And one of the things that we were able to tell Randy is one of the words that people have been asking the book,

26:02

Heaven, is the issue of, like, what happens to somebody that commits?

26:08

So that's incredible data, if you will, to provide to an author to say, hey, maybe

26:14

I need to do a blog post that directly addresses, again, the question, what happens when a believer commits, right?

26:24

Interesting, right? So what this is, this list is what you just said.

26:29

It's the verses that people have highlighted, wrote notes on, or even theological books.

26:36

Because again, if I went to Randy Alcorn's book, If God is Good, I guarantee he's quoted

26:43

Romans 8, James 1, 2 Corinthians 12. So those are probably the most popular.

26:48

I could find the exact answer, but I'm almost certain that's what we're seeing, and that's why it's in the order that we see on the screen.

26:56

So let me see if we can ask something that Logos cannot answer, or that the Bible does not clearly answer.

27:03

And this will be the last question. Okay, you ready? How—and again, this is very—how you handle this, if you're a pastor or a church leader, or even just a

27:12

Christian who knows somebody who's going through suffering, this is a very difficult territory to navigate.

27:18

So, granted, how do I comfort someone who just lost a loved one?

27:25

I don't even know what's going to happen, but what do you think? I'm doing a little prayer in my head, hope it's good answers, right?

27:34

How do I comfort someone who—and again, this is what I love about the new Logos. I'm literally kind of just pouring my heart out.

27:41

I'm saying what's on my—I don't have to figure out the right way to build a query. Yeah, yeah.

27:48

I'm just saying what I need. How do I comfort someone who just lost a loved one? Hit enter. And there we go.

27:54

For one, we comfort because of the resurrection, right? That's a—I like that, right?

28:00

And then we got Psalm 34, the Lord is near the brokenhearted. He saves the crushed in spirit, blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted.

28:10

He will wipe away every tear. So reminder that ultimately, because of Jesus and the resurrection, all tears will be wiped away, right?

28:20

Amen. Those are some really, really, really good verses, right? I love that. Let me show you one that I asked recently, which was a very specific question.

28:30

I asked, you know, I have a friend struggling with how can

28:41

I help him? I mean, that is a wordy question, very specific.

28:47

So it could be my friend struggling from anxiety, my friend struggling from alcoholism, my friend struggling from drug addiction, whatever.

28:53

How can I help him? Hit enter. Now, what's interesting to me is when I type this, for one,

28:58

I love the fact that Logos called it out. It's sexual immorality. Wow. It's adultery.

29:04

Yeah. But notice as I scroll down, I see James 5 confessing sins one to another.

29:10

How about Proverbs 27, iron sharpens iron. Now, why did that get brought to the result?

29:18

It's because of the second part of the question. The first part was, buddy, how can

29:25

I help? Oh, okay. Yeah. So you see what I'm saying? So because there's really two questions in what I type, or two statements, if you will, my friend that I'm helping, and then how can

29:35

I help, right? So again, confession of sins one to another is super important for someone to overcome sin in their lives, right?

29:43

You have to be honest. You have to confess your sins. I need to hold you accountable. And that's the opportunity to help too, right?

29:50

So James 5 is the intersection of both the questions that you're asking, right? Exactly right.

29:56

Yeah. Yeah. That's so good. How can a young man keep his way pure? By guarding it according to your words. So I'm getting kind of instruction on, okay, this is what

30:04

I'm going to tell him. Hey, you've got to live your life according to the scripture, which means what? You've got to be in the scripture.

30:09

You need to probably memorize some passages that are going to help you through this struggle.

30:18

This is what I would do, Scott, was whenever—because I used to—so I was a pastor in Vegas for a number of years, and I used to counsel young men specifically.

30:25

Imagine this, growing up as a young man in Las Vegas, Scott. So just put that out there. But I would counsel young men out of the struggles with—and one of the strategies that I would utilize was to grab an anchor text that they could hold onto and meditate and memorize, and we would work on memorizing it together.

30:43

And look at that. You can just grab any of those, and it really is helpful, especially with leaders.

30:50

Yep. So that's why I get a little excited with the new version of—I mean,

30:57

I think every version of Logos has been amazing, right? It's such a great resource.

31:03

But it was a bit complicated because, again, it didn't understand concepts. It didn't understand language.

31:10

I couldn't take a—for example, the word Trinity, as we know, is not in the Bible, so I couldn't take that word to the biblical text because it didn't understand the doctrine of the

31:19

Trinity. Now I'm in Bible, and I simply say Trinity, and voila, there are the passages.

31:26

Now watch this. I've got Genesis. I've got Matthew. I've got John. I've got Isaiah. But I can be very specific and say, you know, just give me

31:34

Trinity OT, and Logos knows what OT means, and there are the passages, right?

31:42

You know, in my morning time, I'm in 1 Corinthians, and I've just been really—I don't know why

31:47

I've been so amazed at how much the Apostle Paul uses the

31:52

Old Testament in his writing. So I went in here because I just kept seeing Old Testament reference,

31:58

Old Testament. So I went in here and said, where does Paul use the

32:04

OT in 1 Corinthians? And again, I don't have to spell out Corinthians, Logos.

32:10

No, I don't have to spell out Old Testament, but I hit enter, and voila, you're going to notice something because it's doing quite a bit of searching, but notice the first reference is 1

32:21

Corinthians 119, and what's right below it? The actual Old Testament quote that Paul uses.

32:29

So I can chronologically go through chapter 1, and then you're going to see chapter 2, 1 Corinthians 2, 9, and so on, and literally have an amazing

32:36

Bible study where Paul is quoting the Old Testament again in 1

32:42

Corinthians. So I'm trying to break Logos. I mean, if you want to blow some minds right now, look at this question.

32:50

I've kind of listed some of my favorite questions I've been asking Logos over the last few weeks. This one, absolutely,

32:56

I thought Logos was going to come up and say, I don't compute.

33:03

I asked, where are the verses where kings served the Lord but didn't tear down the high places?

33:11

Because as we read the Old Testament, there were kings that were fully obedient, tore down the high places, but then there was these kings that were kind of one foot in obedience, one foot in disobedience, and it usually was this issue of tearing down the high places.

33:23

I hit enter. Nate, there we go. First Kings, Second Kings, and so on and so forth.

33:31

So here's some of the categories, just so that those watching can kind of get an idea of what you can actually go to Logos with.

33:38

I'm feeling lonely. Is that what that says? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm feeling lonely. So this is more pastoral and more personal.

33:47

I'm feeling lonely. These would be the passages of Scripture that I would spend the next few days on, right?

33:54

This one I love. You can actually kind of search the Bible as a concordance to itself, meaning

34:01

I want to find all the passages that are like Romans 12 to renewing the mind.

34:07

So I love that verse. I've memorized it. Are there other Bible verses that are like this verse?

34:13

There's tons. There's a few. Now, what's interesting, Nate, look at Philippians 4 .8. Finally, brothers, whatever's pure, whatever's honorable, whatever's just, think on these things.

34:23

That absolutely relates to renewing the mind. This is instruction on what to think about, right?

34:30

So Logos is understanding the theology in the passage and saying what else in the

34:36

Bible kind of speaks into that as well. Old New Testament. So I see Psalms and Ezekiel and so on and so forth.

34:43

Now, for me being over 50 there, Nate, vaguely remembered. I love this because I've got a couple verses stuck in my head, and I can't remember exactly where, let's say, run the races, right?

34:56

I know it's like, is it 1 Corinthians? But I was thinking of 1

35:01

Corinthians 9, right? Do you not know that in a race all the runners run? But look at Acts 20, 24.

35:08

Finish my course. The word run is not in there. The word race is not in there, but the concept of running a race, because why finish my course, right?

35:18

So it's understanding, again, the ideas and helping you find the actual passages that were kind of jumbled up in the brain.

35:29

But yeah, you can ask life questions now. Apologetic. I mean, look at this one. Show me the major Old Testament prophecies that Jesus fulfilled.

35:39

Done. Isaiah 7. Micah. I mean, scroll down. Here's all the major Old Testament prophecies that Jesus fulfilled.

35:49

AI and Logos, game changer. I know, man. Listen, Scott, you know, I realize there is an aspect of this, and I'm a big advocate for Logos.

36:00

I talk about it. I use it in every single one of my videos to read the Scripture, and I probably still know only a fraction.

36:07

Even what we've gone over is only a fraction of what Logos can do, and I, again,

36:12

I use it every single day in my Bible studies. So I cannot recommend it enough. If somebody is watching and they are a serious student of Scripture, pastor, student, or otherwise,

36:21

I strongly encourage them to go and grab Logos. And here's what I want to do. I want to give

36:27

Scott just a few more minutes to actually show some things, some upgrades, and then,

36:33

Scott, I think you have a surprise for us or something. I'm not sure what's going on with Logos. I have a free surprise, which, you know, someone asked me when

36:40

I was in Singapore, Scott, we're going to take you to anywhere you want to eat. What's your favorite kind of food? I said, free.

36:46

If it's free, I don't care what you put before me, right? So I have a free gift for everybody.

36:54

So let me just show you a couple things. Let me point out, though, when you open Logos now, there is front and center, right in your need some help.

37:05

Okay, this is new, and AI is part of this. So I can go in here and type Hebrew study.

37:11

I could type devotions. I could type prayer journal. I mean, Logos is not just a theological search engine.

37:17

We're trying to encompass your whole walk with the Lord. It's the app I use in the morning for my prayer time. It's what

37:23

I use for my devotion. So it's not just a powerhouse theology tool.

37:28

It does that, right? But what if you need help? You just type what you need here. We now will bring you videos, webinars.

37:35

So we have webinars almost weekly that you can sign up for. They're all free. Our community forums, our technical support.

37:41

So if someone's watching that might be halfway around the world and can't get to our 800 number at Logos Monday through Saturday, you can get help now front and center within the software itself, right?

37:53

But I want to show you my favorite feature. I did show you the insights panel, right? This is the amazing new, where you go to Romans chapter one, and then voila on the right hand side of the screen,

38:05

Logos is bringing in your commentary, your study Bible. And I do want to point out, you can change it to whatever you want.

38:12

So I have it set to pillar, one of my favorites, but maybe somebody watching is like, you know what, Scott, I'm a big

38:17

Tyndale fan. I just literally in one second changed the commentary.

38:23

But the big idea is as I scroll, there's the insight, right?

38:28

So I always have an on your phone. That's my, probably my favorite new feature on my mobile app is insights.

38:35

So that's new, but my favorite feature and you and I have done a few of these and Scott just won't shut up about Factbook.

38:43

That in my opinion is the best single tool in Logos is

38:49

Factbook for Bible study and topical study. So Factbook should solve the issue of anyone going to Google for their

38:58

Bible study or anyone going to Google for a theological idea. So for example, if I type

39:03

Revelation and I always say, Hey, when you type something in Factbook, chill out for about one second, because look at the nuance.

39:10

When I said Revelation, Nate, I bet you thought I was talking about the book of, which is one of my options.

39:16

I could click that and get all the summary information for the book of Revelation, but I also have the doctrine of special.

39:23

I have the doctrine of general. So we're really kind of thinking through what you typed and bringing the nuance to you.

39:31

Now I'm doing a little study right now on Jonah one through four. So I just went up here, type Jonah one through four, and I just want everybody to witness in a nanosecond, what

39:42

Logos provided in Factbook for a Bible study on Jonah one through four. There's the passage.

39:49

There's all my commentaries now lined up. So I have instant access to, if not 10, 20, 30 different commentaries.

39:57

So all I have to do is just click the link and I'm right in multiple commentaries, right? Scrolling right along people, places, and things.

40:05

So if anybody watching loves to do inductive study, which asks the questions of the text, Hey, who are the people in the text, the places in the text that we're just doing that in a nanosecond.

40:16

And if you see something like, Hey, I don't really know much about Nineveh, click it. And look what

40:21

Factbook did in one second, just by clicking a word I saw in Factbook, right? I got my Bible dictionaries, my media, my key passages, my

40:29

Greek, my Hebrew. I mean, what Logos just made, just embarrassed

40:35

Wikipedia, like just shot millions of holes because this is biblical sources and it did way more work than anything

40:45

I've ever found on the internet for typing the word Nineveh, right? Now, when you got to get home, there's your little arrow.

40:51

I call this my ADHD button. I suffer a little bit because I love to click things in Factbook, but I got to get home because I'm not studying

40:59

Nineveh, I'm studying Jonah. But again, anything in blue in here that you're like, Hey, I want to know more about the

41:05

Ninevites. I want to know more about, let's say, Sackcloth or the King of Nineveh, click it.

41:12

Biblical events. Here's an outline of the text you're in. I know where I'm at in the Bible, key cross references, reported speech, media.

41:22

We'll create all your PowerPoint slides if you teach. Here's your Bible book guide. Here's the content of Jonah, the origin of Jonah, the background of Jonah.

41:32

Again, the point I'm bringing out in a couple seconds is the amount of work that Factbook did for Jonah one through four is probably 10, 20, 30 hours.

41:45

Honestly, if I was to do all this work manually on the internet or with my books here in my room, probably minimum 10 to 20 hours.

41:53

Logos did that in about a second. So I just want to challenge anybody watching that says, I don't have enough time for good, solid

42:02

Bible study. Yes, you do. If you have the right tool, right? I understand what you're saying, if that's an excuse given, because to do the research

42:11

Scott just did on Jonah one through four, I don't have 20 hours to do that. I just don't, right? Well, let us do the heavy lifting.

42:18

And if I understand busy, if you only have 10 minutes today to kind of dig into God's word, 10 minutes in Factbook, that's an amazing amount of Bible study, right?

42:28

So people ask me all the time in closing, Scott, what is the absolute best feature in all of Logos?

42:35

The best tool is Factbook, but the best feature is time savings. The best thing

42:43

Logos does is save you countless hours of time looking for solid things to study.

42:52

And I want to stress solid. I could go out to Google with Jonah one through four, but I'm going to have to spend a whole lot of time digging through nonsense to get to anything worth studying, right?

43:04

So Logos just says, hey, let us just do the heavy lifting. Let us do the research. Let us give you the content so that you can do some fantastic topical study, biblical studies, and so on and so forth.

43:16

So that, my friend, is the awesome power of the new Logos. Wow. Yeah.

43:22

I love it, man. I hope everybody's excited, certainly when they hear about what you're going to provide and what

43:32

Logos is going to give to my audience, hopefully, especially as it pertains to Michael Heiser.

43:39

I hope people get super excited about this, but go ahead. Here is the, and I think you've got to change your screen.

43:46

So everything looks good now? Yes, sir. Good. So again, two big barriers that I hope we're witnessing today.

43:52

One, ease of use. AI solves that problem. You type the way you talk. You ask questions, like if you could pick up the phone and ask your favorite scholar.

44:01

The other issue is cost. So if someone had looked at Logos a year ago, what I just showed right now,

44:07

Nate, would probably have been about $1 ,000 to get into, right? So we've now gone to subscription. So every tool that I showed today is at our premium level, which is only $9 .95

44:17

per month. So here are the levels now of Logos, premium, pro, and max.

44:22

So the one thing I want everybody to really pay attention to is how many books you're getting access to. Because Logos AI is locked down to your library, you need books, right?

44:31

You need commentaries, Bible dictionaries, apologetic resources. So believe it or not, our number one level is pro because it doubled the amount of books.

44:42

Plus, it allows you to do Greek and Hebrew study. There's biblical counseling. If you teach in any capacity, there's amazing

44:50

AI now for teaching prep and so on. It'll help you build Bible studies and so on.

44:56

You could go a year up front. You can do a month only, or you could go a year up front, actually save a little bit that way too.

45:03

All that information's on the website I'll give here in a moment. But if you have old Logos, your price comes down even more.

45:10

I actually was at a conference recently. Gentleman got pro annual for the year, and it wasn't $150.

45:16

It was $60 for him because he got credit for his old

45:21

Logos. Now, if you have old Logos, what'll happen once you subscribe to one of these levels is your old

45:27

Logos becomes shiny and new with the new AI. So it'll just take your old library and bring it into the new

45:34

Logos. Now, this is the gif. Actually, that's the wrong cover. It's not Mike Licona, disregard.

45:42

Do you want me to fix that for a recording? You can, sure. Yeah, go ahead. So let's stop right there.

45:48

I knew I was going to do something wrong. Um, so let's go. What was it?

45:55

OT. You gave it to me. Where's that text you gave me?

46:02

Yeah, what was it? Yeah, we have 200 courses. So I don't have them all memorized yet.

46:10

OT3, 381? Was that it? Nope. Yeah, this is one. 291.

46:19

291. Yeah, he beat me. Yeah, OT291, Jewish Trinity. So let me, OT291, let me just save image.

46:29

Who's your editor guy? His name's Mark. Mark. All right, Mark. Sorry about that, buddy.

46:35

We're now going to go here, go to, and how do

46:41

I? Oh, I, do you know how to insert an image in a

46:48

Google? Slide, oh, insert image. That was easy.

46:54

Upload from computer. I downloaded it and oh, I have to save it as a certain file.

47:01

Oh, come on, logo. All right, hold on. It's all good. All right, let's go back.

47:08

I will, I'm just going to cheat and do it this way.

47:16

Okay, so there's that. And now we're going to put that image.

47:21

So let's do this again. Insert image, upload. It should be on my desktop, right?

47:29

If I, yep, there it is. Boom, all right, that was easier. Nice. Okay, so let's go back a slide for Mark and here we go.

47:43

So here is the gift we have for those that participated. Or viewed the replay is the course you selected.

47:52

So I said to Nate, hey, we've got a ton of great mobile ed courses. What would be something that your audience would love to have?

48:00

And you selected the Jewish trinity. How the Old Testament reels the curse. This is a fantastic course.

48:07

Dr. Michael Heiser, who was a resident scholar, actually worked at Logos for about 14 years.

48:12

As many of you know, we lost Mike sadly to cancer a few years ago. But this is Dr.

48:17

Heiser, four hours of video. Just blowing your minds again on the concept of the

48:24

Jewish trinity. So this is our gift to you. When you start your trial, this will automatically add to your cart.

48:32

And you get to keep this regardless. So let's say in a month you decided I don't really care for Logos.

48:37

This is yours forever. And it is mobile. So you'll actually have this course. And it's $150. If you go to our website, wanted to buy this.

48:44

That's kind of what you would pay is $150. Now, this is the website that everybody's got to get to.

48:50

And notice at the bottom, the deadline for the free gift and the trial is

48:55

Wednesday, April 30th at midnight. Okay, and you can share this.

49:01

I mean, obviously, we had hoped that you would be a part of this live stream or watch the video.

49:07

But you could share this with anybody that you feel, wow, Logos would be a great tool or resource for any friend or somebody that you know.

49:16

So you just have to share again, Logos .com forward slash wise disciple. And there is where you'll get the free 30 days of the new

49:24

Logos. But also the gift of the MobileEd course. Again, Logos Mobile.

49:30

I can't stress enough how absolutely amazing it is to have the power of AI synopsis, summarize.

49:37

All of this now in your back pocket is probably my favorite thing that Logos does now is mobile, right?

49:45

So that's there. And I just want to remind, I actually, Nate, had my marketing team make this for me, for me personally, all the different subscription services

49:54

I had. And I was very convicted, honestly. I don't need, I really don't need eight subscriptions.

50:00

I actually got rid of Disney. And you can afford Logos, especially now that it's 10 bucks a month at the premium level.

50:08

We want people excited about Bible study. And we want people getting biblical answers to life's questions and theological questions, which

50:18

I hope you got to see evidence today. Scott, you buried the lead, I think, in a lot of ways with the

50:24

Heiser giveaway. I mean, that was, hopefully that's amazing. I've been talking about Heiser, talking him up for, you know, a long time.

50:32

So hopefully, I'm excited. I want to grab a copy of that. So definitely take advantage of this.

50:39

Scott, thank you so much for joining. I really do appreciate it. Yeah, that's great. Thanks for having me. Again, I get a little excited about the new

50:46

Logos because I'm witnessing people using it for the first time and the excitement.

50:52

If we create something that helps people get excited about the Bible, then amen. That is the goal we have.

50:59

What else is there? Amen. That's right. Well, that's all the time that I have for this episode, but I will return soon with more for you.