April 19, 2022 Show with David Swartz on “A Biblical Response to Critical Race Theory”

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Wishing you all a happy Tuesday on this 19th day of April 2022.

I'm delighted to have a first -time guest today.

His name is David Swartz, and he is an elder and Chairman of the Leadership Council at

Church of the Living Christ in Loisville, Pennsylvania.

Which was the host church for my recent iron sharpens iron radio?

Spring pastors luncheon.

Church of the Living Christ in Loisville is also where David develops and teaches courses as

part of the adult Education ministry.

He recently completed a career in agricultural business management and global food production and economics.

Today he will address a biblical response to critical race theory, which is also

the theme of the 2022 reasons for belief Apologetics

conference being conducted by Church of the Living Christ in Loisville, Pennsylvania.

It's my honor and privilege to welcome you for the very first time ever to iron sharpens iron radio David Swartz.

Good to be with you today.

Thank you for the invitation.

Well, why don't you let our listeners know something about Church of the Living Christ in Loisville, Pennsylvania.

And I could tell you right now.

I'm very confident if I lived closer to Loisville I would seriously consider

joining that wonderful church.

Tell our listeners about it.

Yeah, we

are in Western

years ago.

Huh people sitting in lawn chairs.

And so

if you just

give the glory to him for all that happens there and we're grateful

for Each person and the facility we have.

They have the facilities there are breathtaking and a perfect venue For an

event like I had the iron sharpens iron radio pastors luncheon.

And I look forward to working With you and the folks there for future events, and I'm very

excited about that.

Yeah, a lot of people complimenting very highly not only about the event itself, but

your facilities your volunteers.

Everybody that I have spoken to was just Blown out of their socks as they say by the event

and I'm looking for the next one.

By the way, if anybody lives near Loisville Which is in Perry County, Pennsylvania, or

you're visiting there or you have friends family and loved ones in or near

Loisville Look up Church of the Living Christ dot CC Church of the

Living Christ dot CC and God willing.

I will repeat that information a.

Little.

Why in a little while throughout the right room broadcast?

Also as I mentioned during the initials miss you folks are

having your annual Reasons for belief apologetics conference.

The next one will be held in May of 2022.

Tell us about the origins of this conference.

You're the only church that I'm aware of at least locally that has an annual apologetics

conference specifically on the theme of apologetics.

Why don't you tell us about that?

Yeah, we started this con a number of

years variety of top.

Including in

years

in

a

biblical

response

messaging

that is do evangelism.

The leadership of the church we these effort

unity.

We do evangelism issue now.

Would you say that apologetics could be defined? biblically as being.

Ready to give an answer for the hope that lies within us.

Acceptive absolute truth is a non -starter with many people today.

We also see the chaos that Results

arena of our culture.

We

have this conference.

So our folks

have the

opportunity to

relevant topics of for family.

Well, I mark your calendars now.

For.

May 20th 21st and 22nd of this year.

That's next month May 20th 21st and 22nd for the reason for belief

Apologetics conference at Church of the Living Christ in Lois Ville, Pennsylvania.

And once again, their website is Church of the Living Christ Dot CC.

Church of the Living Christ dot C C.

Well, we have a tradition here as I mentioned to you before we went on the air.

We have a tradition every time of you a First -time guest.

We have that guest.

You have a summary of their salvation testimony, which would include the kind of

religious atmosphere they were raised in if any and the kind of

providential Circumstances that our sovereign Lord raised up in their lives.

That drew them to himself and saved them.

And I'd love to hear your story now.

Every

Sunday heritage or tradition was

in the United Methodist Church even

in the time

and They

understood of

math

and

science

and

the

humanities

were taught

through the world

view.

It was a

Tremendous sacrifice especially on my wife's part our children.

The Lord was has been so gracious to save our children

and Provided godly spouses for them.

The formative events after I was saved a year

or two took my mother home

from cancer and The the pain of that really

made me Walking through that dark time really made me evaluate

What my priorities and I understood the need that I was that

I was such a novice in the Bible and that I really? Needed to eat my

life as I was willing to do that.

I look back had no

formal theological training in seminary,

so

Chris when you

Look back over your life and you count all of those bless.

Amen without a doubt.

Well, uh, let's get into the theme of the day, which is the

theme of.

Your.

2022 reason for belief apologetics conference.

Why did you select?

The theme of critical race theory or a biblical response to critical race theory.

I know that a no -brainer reason would be that it's.

Constantly in the media every single day.

There is some kind of reference to it either pro or con.

Depending upon what media you are involved in.

But tell us what was the compelling reason.

Where?

You said to yourself I've got to address this in the next reason for

belief Apologetics conference and I've got to get Joe Greene to speak with me on this.

Well, they're

really in and work on this and

they are always looking for and

not even

address

it because You just the

heaviness of it all on the other hand.

The reason we did decide to leave

dividing church

Evangelical

divided

and that's really why amen and

I think that it is an extremely.

Important issue.

I have heard some people say when I've had many

Programs and interviews on this subject people have said to me.

Why are you? introducing politics so often on here and

I my response is this is far beyond any political issue this

this is threatening the very gospel itself.

There are issues involved in this that are actually salvific and which involve

the nature of man that all men are conceived in the

womb totally depraved and There is not one

race the white race or any other race that Corners the market or is

the exclusive Party guilty of the sin of

bigotry and hatred.

No matter what color skin you are no matter what ethnicity you come from or

nationality the human race.

And that is the only race that exists.

The human race is plagued with racism globally and

It seems that the only race that the the leftist realm wants

to point to is Those with less melanin content in their skin.

So I think this is a very important subject far beyond

any political discussion.

Well, I we have addressed this many times, but why don't you Start with a definition as

others have because I don't think that we could bring this up too often, especially in the current

climate of The church and the world in regard to this why don't you

define critical race theory for us

talked about.

Critical

works.

So

we

just

see

this

as a

heresy

and

in

the

end.

Yeah, and it is claimed by those who are advocates and Proponents

of critical race theory and all things under the umbrella of the social justice warrior movement

that Racism is a sin that white

people can never fully repent from.

We by nature of being white by nature of having a low melanin content in our skin

we are guilty no matter what we say or do according to them and even if our

ancestors Did not own slaves.

And by the way, I don't believe that that even is a reason

To hold the progeny of slave owners

Responsible for something that their ancestors did.

Because if you were to do that, you'd have to find out what tribes

Black folks that are making these accusations.

You'd have to find out what tribes they From which they have come Where

their origins lie because their their ancestors May have been

involved in selling.

Their their fellow.

Countrymen to the slave.

It's into the slave trade to begin with.

So you have you know people who are evil on both sides of the coin both the

Africans themselves and the slave traders who purchased these slaves.

But but even if you were to somehow in

Some convoluted fashion come up with a way to defend that those with

ancestors who were that were slave owners are Responsible for the sins of their fathers and

grandfathers and great -grandfathers.

There are many white people whose Ancestors were not slave owners.

My ancestors on my father's side immigrated from

Scandinavia in the 19th century after the Civil War and.

They.

They settled in primarily in Brooklyn, New York and Rhode Island.

There were no slaves there.

None of my ancestors had slaves in my father's side unless you go far enough back into their

history to the Vikings and the Vikings.

Slaves were white so you can't blame my father's side of the family for

owning and mistreating black slaves and my mother's side of the

family.

Immigrated to the United States in the early 1900s from Poland,

so.

And you know, there are countless examples like that where just because a person is

white Doesn't mean that they have any slave owners in their ancestry.

So this really boils down to slander.

It.

Boils down to The thinking more highly of oneself than

you should.

That would be those who are proponents of the Critical race theory who are people of color and

they somehow think that they are superior.

Because they say that they do not possess guilt for the sin of bigotry

and racism.

They are.

Devoid of that somehow in their minds and.

And.

They Also these proponents of this heresy as you called it are.

Really.

Dividing those who are professed to be Christian are dividing the body of Christ in an

ungodly and Slanderous and evil manner and it is mind

-boggling that.

Some folks that I really highly respected and interviewed on this program a decade ago who

are.

At one time these notions were never even a thought in their head or now among the leaders of this movement.

That is what is really mind -boggling to me.

Not that those Who are leftists outside of the church or in leftist

mainline groups?

Mainline denominations, but there are people who are not only Theologically in many ways

conservative and theologically reformed as I am who are proponents of this

garbage.

But I.

Don't know what you have to say in response to anything that I just said if you agree with all of it or some of It or what have you?

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brother David Swartz is an Elder at Church of the Living Christ in Loisville,

Pennsylvania and is one of the speakers that that church is

annual Apologetics conference coming up in May on Critical

race theory and that is called the reason for belief apologetics conference.

And if you have any questions of your own on critical race theory send them in to Chris Arnson at gmail .com Chris

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Give us your first name at least your city and state and country of residence.

We.

Have an anonymous listener who says he's remaining or she is remaining anonymous

because of the fact that many of his or her friends are

Deeply rooted in this current heresy.

And.

The anonymous listener wants to know How do you approach this

issue?

With others that seem to be in lockstep with this heresy

without inflaming further division and hateful disputes.

And that may be impossible with certain people.

I mean that the gospel itself Doesn't guarantee that those that you declare it

to are going to remain your friends.

Are going to remain loving to you, etc, but we can Go through

steps.

Not to add to the offense that the gospel has.

The gospel is offensive.

Already in and of itself, but what are your what are your answers to this?

Yeah,

well

even

within

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Yeah, well

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Yes, and.

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groups of people liberals used to champion or at least claim to

champion freedom of speech Tolerance of those who disagree with

you and many other things that those in the

progressive left today are adamantly opposed to in fact

Dr. Martin Luther King jr. With whom I have very radical and

serious theological differences.

But.

One of the things he championed that I agree with is that we are supposed to treat people Not

according to the color of their skin, but according to the content of their character and this seems to be a

heresy Declared a heresy by the

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are trying to have a Reasonable discussion with them and you're presenting your

oppositions.

I would ask them is It loving to only have conversations with people who

agree with you.

Is it loving to?

To Never correct someone who you believe is an error.

And if that's true, why are you doing it to me?

It's amazing how often people Who are inflamed with rage?

When you state something that involves your Desire to correct

others you believe are an error.

They fail to recognize that they are Disagreeing with you and

therefore are guilty of the same thing that they are accusing you of so disagreement

is Not in and of itself a bad thing and can be

Something that is the height of love especially when there is risk involved.

When you are opposing something that is cherished by somebody that you really care about whose

friendship you treasure Whose love you?

Claim as one of your most cherished gifts.

You're risking losing that person as a friend.

They may disassociate you as a family member.

So disagreeing with them when you know that the matter is serious enough and may even involve

Eternal consequences if it involves a false gospel.

Then telling them that you disagree can be the height of love.

Am I right?

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Dave Continue what you were saying before the break you were quoting your

senior pastor a brother in Christ who I Have grown to quickly love and hope

to have a long future of getting to know him better and forming an even more solid

friendship with him.

Pastor Doran Ray you were quoting him and.

Why don't you pick up where you're left off?

Thanks again for Allowing

us

to getting

back

to

what

he

means by

that,

right?

That is exactly right.

We are more concerned over the feelings of people very often than we are over

their eternal destiny.

We are more important.

We find more important I should say maintaining our friendship with them and

maintaining their Kindness toward us and their love for us.

Then we are In our consideration of honoring and obeying

and loving God and Having him look upon us with favor.

We care more about the favor of men.

Even lost men even enemies of the gospel.

We are more concerned with their Appreciation of us then we are

concerned over how God is viewing what we are saying and doing and

That often I think is motivated perhaps sometimes unconsciously.

By.

Fearing men more than God and fearing the loss of some benefit that we have.

Of course, there are many people who Sin by denying their faith in the

very livelihood.

That earns them money.

Obviously, I'm not trying to promote those that Steal from their employees by

using their working hours as a mission field on an ongoing basis by

not doing what they're being paid to do and evangelizing or talking

about the gospel and so forth, but that there's a difference between

Only speaking about those things when it is appropriate like during lunch breaks and that kind of thing coffee

breaks.

Before and after work there are people who by the very nature of what they do for a living is a

An insult to the church and to Christ himself.

So we have to make sure that we always put God before men.

We have a listener and I believe it's a first -time listener.

Oh, but by the way, let me say to our Anonymous listener if indeed this was the first time you've ever contacted us with

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J and Landisberg, Pennsylvania.

He writes who are the previously conservative church leaders

who are embracing CRT if you are going to Generically complain

about them name names.

I guess that was an insult to me.

Maybe our view comes.

I should say a chastisement.

CRT seems to me to be a catch -all term that was picked up by Conservative

media to stir up a moral panic.

I don't see anybody in the conservative church leaders that I listened to embracing it.

Okay.

Well, do you have an answer to that before I do?

And Kendi

Ideology or now and

obviously

Kendi

would not be a conservative or a professing conservative.

No, that is true.

Chris. You can respond.

Yeah, let me

let me

state

that the people that I know are.

Definitely.

Movers and shakers and leaders under the umbrella of the social justice warrior movement.

I have to be careful about not publicly identifying every aspect of those things

to folks when I am NOT an expert about how thoroughly they

echo and applaud and perpetuate all of the things under that umbrella,

especially in regard to areas that involve homosexuality and

Extreme levels of feminism and so on.

But two men that I have had on this program Who I at one time

Really viewed as extremely valuable leaders in the church.

Who I whose ministries I promoted?

One is the BT and you wheel a if you if anybody listening would like to Get

an email of an interview.

I conducted with him a decade ago.

You will see how he was 180 degrees on the opposite side of

What later became known as the social justice warrior movement.

Now he is Perpetuating and echoing sentiments that seem to be foreign

to his thinking only a decade ago.

And.

One person who I have not had on this program.

Who.

Basically has been the right -hand man of somebody that I have interviewed Ligon

Duncan is Jamar Tisby.

And Ligon Duncan who has been his assistant for quite a while in ministry.

And I believe Ligon heads been and maybe continues to be his mentor in some sense

Ligon is a Part of what would be called conservative reformed

Presbyterian theology and teaching a very Likeable

man.

I'm speaking of Ligon Who seems to be extremely humble and so on.

But Jamar has been On the other side of the spectrum been very

outspoken in his sharp Critique and even slanderous

accusations of others About being racists and so on.

And Anthony Bradley is another person that I've had on this program

A decade ago Who was completely 180

degrees just like the BTN and Willie Lee in Opposition to things

that have become main elements of the social justice warrior movement.

So.

In fact, one of the things that is very clear in my memory about

Anthony is.

That.

By the way, Anthony knew that I was a Reformed Baptist a confessional Reformed Baptist when he Accepted my

invitation to be interviewed a decade ago.

When I asked him What his response is or

was back then to black individuals who

or even white individuals who promote the concept that black people cannot be guilty of

the sin of racism because they are an oppressed people and

Only those that are in positions of power can truly be guilty of the sin of racism.

His answer to that was in a very loud voice on my program is that they're

morons.

So he has come a far way from when he was on my show and the

reason I brought up his his foreknowledge of me being a Reformed

Baptist he now believes and He has said publicly that confessional Reformed Baptists those

that adhere to the 1689 London Baptist Confession as I do are amongst the most despicable and.

Vile.

Professing Christians on the planet and perhaps somebody who has the exact word -for -word quote

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But I would I would actually like to have those folks those men on my program To have as friendly

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And so there's the answer to that.

I don't want to go any further in naming names.

It's not because I'm being cowardly about it.

I just don't want to be guilty of slander against those that may have

Developed in certain ways in their thinking and understanding of this topic.

They may have changed they may have repented of certain things.

So I don't want to include too broad or large of a group of people and

names When it comes to that.

So, there you go J in Landisburg, Pennsylvania, and even though you gave me

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Expression of disagreement between Myself guests and listeners it can actually make for

more interesting radio.

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As iron sharpens iron goes.

I would love to hear from more people that do disagree with me and my guests.

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Let's see here we have.

Another.

Question.

We have Arnie in Perry County and Arnie, I hope that you come to this conference since you're

in Perry County Arnie says.

What do you think are the main elements of critical race theory that are an offense to

God?

That are.

Actually and absolutely damnable rather than debatable areas.

Are you there brother?

Well, let me read.

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Okay, so go ahead and.

You

know in

in the Secular marketplace

ID that

should be

my

God's

authority over as a

result.

I think

that is

a well.

Thank you

Arnie

and.

One of the things that I am convinced of.

In regard to one of the major elements of critical race theory.

Or the advocates of critical race theory and what they demand.

And everything under the social justice warrior movement which includes

Reparations.

And this would also include any sympathy towards

socialism and Marxism and communism and there are varying degrees of.

Open.

Embrace of those things there are.

I know that there are people involved in promoting the social justice warrior

Ideas and critical race theory who claim that they are not Marxist socialists or communists,

but but even the demanding of reparations is

Number one before it happens before it's actually realized and comes true.

It's coveting thy neighbor's goods and If it does happen if it becomes law, it's

stealing from your neighbor.

Because as we've already said And not everybody in this country who is

white had slave holders in their

ancestry and I don't even think it's legitimate to Penalize those

that do have grandfathers and great -grandfathers who were slave holders in this fashion.

Just as you wouldn't hold any black person or a person of any skin color

Responsible for what their father great -grandfather did and and you know, we can go back

many Many years into their ancestry.

We would not want to hold anybody responsible for the flaws sins and

even crimes of their.

Forefathers.

So you are.

At this point you're coveting What these people known as white folk.

You're coveting what any of them may own and These reparations

actually were to be made law.

You'd be stealing big because remember folks When people use terms like the government's

money The government doesn't have any money.

That isn't the money that once belonged to the citizens of this country.

People don't they have a total bizarre Misconception about the

government actually having money that is theirs to begin with that they are

Doling out as some form of act of benevolence to others.

It's it's our money, isn't it?

This idea of reparation within this whole

idea of

reparations is now

and.

Other than those other than those that are themselves guilty of theft like

Zacchaeus.

Right and

that the

Bible supports the concept of reparations.

Well, yes, it does.

It's a key.

It's a key sign of genuine repentance.

Because you're putting your money where your mouth is.

Because money is among those things that human beings care about most if they are truly

guilty of theft.

That Must be a sign of genuine repentance at least at the very least

the attempt To make reparation.

And obviously there are occasions when somebody has through their sin Become so

financially devastated.

It's impossible for them to Financially make a reparation, but they they are indebted in some way to those

victims that they harmed but that it but Zacchaeus wasn't.

Paying people back quote quote.

Because of what his father grant grandfather or great -grandfather did.

That is that is true, that's why I

do not think.

Discuss the other.

He

actually tells

local leaders to use tax dollars

as well as.

The Israelites take the wealth of Egypt

with

them.

Patients as

its current

Ezra was the bill

returned from you

know.

It was not it is not the concept in Ezra six where people were personally enriched

by.

You know, I find some difficulty

with using those tech amen

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We have Joseph in South Central, Pennsylvania.

Who wants to know.

Don't you think that very often those who are professing conservatives?

Whether they are in the church or outside of the church.

Undermine or downplay the serious importance of providing for the

needs of the poor just as James Insisted was a clinical area that gave

evidence to saving faith in his epistle.

Yeah,

I believe if I'm not mistaken.

You are talking about the evils of the welfare system.

Versus those things that involve incentives and for people to

seek and Acquire employment.

I mean even the Bible Tells us if a man doesn't work he shall not eat.

So obviously there are policies that can cripple people and

make them reliant upon the state just to provide for their physical

needs.

And giving them actual incentives incentives very often not to seek employment.

Oh that is that is the outworking that can be the outworking

welfare

believing churches in some of these communities.

They have

but

they also have

maybe any

that

needed

leadership in the home.

And you know, these are some of there's some of the answers

I think in about

we have BB in

Cumberland County,

Pennsylvania.

Who says how do you respond?

To those who are promoting critical race theory and social justice warrior

ideology who use acts 245 as.

A.

Proof text that That proves that socialism is

a better way for Christians to live.

And.

Act let me.

For those of our listeners who don't have their Bibles open or don't remember that text.

That is a very famous text in the scriptures where we read and they

meaning the disciples or The those in the church would sell their property and

possessions and share them with all to the extent that anyone had need.

I

think the leftist Michael Moore.

The movie producer and leftist activist he very often uses

his rhetoric in an Apologetic form where he is actually

identifying his views as Christian.

I think he may be a Catholic I don't know but he will part try to shame Christians with these

kinds of.

Texts a number of

answers.

There

was

there

you go

and

in

view

this Was

purse and it

was and it was voluntary then in fact the reason why it was

a.

Fruit of Their love of the brethren is that it was voluntary that wasn't forced upon.

Right, and and so there was no.

Some people would be harsh about socialism and say that it's a

coercion.

Well tree, however, you want to define socialism.

I do not see this verse as Equaling what we call socialism today and therefore

I think it's a fallacy to say that this verse Supports socialism and therefore

the church should script and

we're out of time.

And if anybody wants to attend the reason for belief apologetics conference at Church of the Living Christ in

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Church of the Living Christ dot CC I want to thank you so much day for being an excellent guest today.

I want to thank everybody who wrote in questions and those who listened Silently

and I want you all to always remember for the rest of your lives that Jesus Christ is a far greater Savior.

Then you are a sinner.