November 29, 2016 Show with Stanley D. Gale on “Finding Forgiveness: Discovering the Healing Power of the Gospel”

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Dr. Stanley D. Gale and the Book Finding Forgiveness

Well, I'm delighted to have for the very first time on Iron Sharpens Iron today Dr. Stanley D. Gale. He is pastor of Reformed Presbyterian Church in Westchester, Pennsylvania, which is a congregation within the Presbyterian Church in America denomination, also known as the PCA.

He is the author of a number of books, including Warfare Witness, Contending with Spiritual Opposition and Everyday Evangelism, and What is Spiritual Warfare and Why Do We Pray? And he's also founder and director of Community Houses of Prayer.

Today we're discussing one of his books, Finding Forgiveness, Discovering the Healing Power of the Gospel. And it's my honor and privilege to welcome you for the very first time to Iron Sharpens Iron, Dr. Stanley D. Gale.

Chris, thank you. It's a delight to be with you. Yeah, not only am I excited because you're a first-time guest and have thought highly of your writing ministry, but also because this is a very, very important subject, obviously, one of the pinnacle issues involved in the Christian faith and life.

And before we go into the topic of HAND, Finding Forgiveness, Discovering the Healing Power of the Gospel, I'd like to know something about yourself, your personal testimony, what kind of religious atmosphere, if any, you were raised in, and what providential occurrences that our Sovereign Lord.

Bring about in your life that drew you to himself? I'm not sure if I became an atheist, but I enjoyed it. That's pretty much me. So when I went back to college at Delaware, she went to InterVarsity Christian Fellowship.

And so I would go and sit outside and study while she went into the meeting. And then I got to know some of these students. Amen. Now, was your first Christian experience.

As a born-again believer within the theologically reformed community, or were you in a different theological perspective at that time? Yeah, that's a good question. Actually,.

I cut my teeth on reformed theology. Oh, yeah. Was Will Metzger at one time a mentor for the now.

Agnostic Bart Ehrman, or is that a different Metzger? That doesn't ring a bell to me. Okay, because I know that there was a Metzger. And I am familiar with Will Metzger, but I'm trying to remember if he was the one that was actually a mentor of Bart Ehrman, who at the time was obviously a Christian.

He was viewed as a bright and shining and rising star in the evangelical community, and then he became an agnostic. It's kind of a reverse thing of what happened to you. Yeah, you're right. And so when did you realize and how did you realize that God was placing a call upon your heart and your life to become a minister?

I went to my undergraduate degree,.

Final year. I think God's calling me. Praise God. And now you are and have been since 1988.

The pastor of the Reformed Presbyterian Church of Westchester, Pennsylvania. Unlike your neighbors to the east in New York, you spell that with two words, Westchester. That's right. Yes. And a lot of folks, when they hear Reformed Presbyterian Church, they're immediately thinking of the Covenanters.

But that is not the case with your congregation. You are in the PCA. And I've heard that a lot of the reason why there are a lot of PCA congregations who call themselves Reformed Presbyterian Church is because after the Fundamentalist Modernist controversy, before the PCA arose, about the same time as the OPC was forming, there was a Reformed Presbyterian Church unaffiliated with the Covenanters that eventually merged with another group and became the PCA.

Am I right on.

That? Yeah. Yes, I know that denomination. McIntyre. But our group did not. And it was a.

Reformed Presbyterian Church. Evangelical Synod was also the original denomination of the local PCA church about 10 minutes from where I'm sitting. Carlisle Reformed Presbyterian Church is actually a PCA church pastored by Matt Purdy and Deckard Stevens is the new associate pastor there.

Looking forward to getting to know him better. I had the privilege of interviewing him in the past. Deckard Stevens is a survivor of cancer, has quite a remarkable testimony.

Oh, okay. I knew David Cross. I think he's the one who started that church.

Yes, I met David briefly and hope to get him on the program. I met him in a Christian bookstore right down the road, Cumberland Valley Bible Book Service. And looking forward to interviewing him at some point.

He'd be a great guest. Yes. And you also are founder and director of Community Houses of Prayer, if you could tell our listeners about that.

Because you see what he said, you know, why don't you write acknowledges that? Excellent. Excellent. And then he said that all the pop community houses of prayer.

So your first book was a warfare witness containing the spiritual opposition and everyday evangelism. The first book was Community Houses of Prayer. Oh, that's right. I'm sorry.

And then I and then when I did, I wrote a warfare witness. What that did was I.

Definitely want to have you back in the future. God willing to discuss that book. And you've also have a follow up booklet that PNR published, what is spiritual warfare?

Yeah, that's basically a primer account for that.

Yes. And I have been pleased to do a couple of interviews on the issue of spiritual warfare and the demonic realm and so on. Because it is something that is oddly, rarely discussed, it seems, amongst performed Christians from it's rarely heard from reform pulpits.

And we are one of the things that we consider our niche in the spectrum of Christendom is we view we view reform theology as bringing into consideration the whole counsel of God, which makes it odd that that would be left out.

But I do know that I've interviewed Dr. Joel Beakey on fighting Satan. And I interviewed Pastor Doug Van Dorn. I think his book is the unseen realm. I think that's exactly the title of his book. And he's a reformed Baptist.

And I actually interviewed a Lutheran scholar on modern day demon possession, and he takes a very biblical, balanced, sane approach to it. He does not agree with the sensationalistic understanding of that that is common amongst a lot of charismatic and Pentecostal groups.

So I was delighted to do that interview as well. But I just want to give a couple of email, I'm sorry, a couple of website addresses, just so I don't forget to do it later. I want to provide the Reformed Presbyterian Church of Westchester, Pennsylvania's website, where our guest is the pastor.

It's rpcwc .org. RPC for Reformed Presbyterian Church, WC for Westchester .org. And also, the Community Houses of Prayer website is CHOPministry .net, C-H-O-P-ministry .net. Of course, CHOP stands for Community Houses of Prayer.

So I hope that all of you at some point, review those websites and continue to visit them often. And I want to read a commendation for the book that we are addressing today, Finding Forgiveness, written by a man who has been, not long ago, a guest on Iron Sharpens Iron, Dr. Peter Littleback.

I interviewed him on his massive biography of George Washington, probably the largest book in print anywhere. But Dr. Littleback says, Stan Gales' Finding Forgiveness is beautifully written, eminently practical, richly biblical, and emotionally uplifting.

It provides godly guidance and spiritual nurture for weary pastors, hurting believers, caring counselors, and troubled counselees. Here you'll find grace in your struggle to forgive and be forgiven. As I said, that was Dr. Peter Littleback, who is the President and Professor of Historical Theology and Church History at Westminster Theological Seminary in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

If anybody would like to join us on the air with a question of your own for our guest, Dr. Stan Gale, our email address is chrisarnsen at gmail .com, chrisarnsen at gmail .com, C-H-R-I-S-A-R-N-Z-E-N at gmail .com.

Please give us your first name, at least your city and state, and your country of residence if you live outside the USA. I understand with a topic like this, it really opens itself up to people who want to get advice and counsel over very personal and intimate and private things, so obviously you may remain anonymous if it makes you feel more comfortable, and obviously I will make sure you're anonymous if you're talking about specific people and churches and so on, but you can feel comfortable knowing that if you would rather remain anonymous, you will not be identified on the air.

And that's chrisarnsen at gmail .com. Well, I'd like to start somewhere that may seem odd to a lot of listeners. I'd like you to define forgiveness, and people might say that's kind of silly, everybody knows what that means, but I have really found out over the years of my Christian life that no, not everybody does.

I think not everybody has a biblical understanding of what that means, and there are even disagreements amongst conservative Bible-believing Christians and even amongst Calvinists. They have disagreements over forgiveness.

There are disagreements even between two of my modern-day heroes over forgiveness, Dr. J. Adams and Dr. John MacArthur, both thoroughgoing Calvinists, have disagreements over forgiveness, but if you could.

Define your understanding of forgiveness. And the first chapter in your book is.

Forgiveness in the Gospel and Imputed Righteousness

Forgiveness in the gospel, if you could tell us about forgiveness specifically as it's connected.

To the gospel. Sure, in fact, that's one of the reasons that, and then as you move to open the engine room, it's interesting to find the word forgiven in the gospel is only half the story.

Amen. And that's the only reason that anyone is going to enter through the gates of heaven after they perish in this life. The only thing that will be pleasing to God is the fact that we are possessing that imputed righteousness, and thank God for that.

We are going to our first break right now, and if you'd like to join us on the air again, our email address is chrisarnson at gmail .com. We already have a number of people who have written their questions for you, and we'll get to as many of those as we can when we return from the break.

But if you'd like to join us again, that's chrisarnson at gmail .com. Chris Arnson at gmail .com. Don't go away. We will be right back with Dr. Stan Gale and more of our discussion on forgiveness. Chris Arnson here, and I can't wait to head down to Atlanta, Georgia, and here's my friend Dr. James White to tell you.

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Assurance, Depression, and the Need to Confess Sin

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And if you just joined us, we have as our guest today for the full two hours Dr. Stanley D. Gale, pastor of Reformed Presbyterian Church in Westchester, Pennsylvania, author of a number of and founder and director of Community Houses of Prayer.

We're discussing his book Finding Forgiveness, Discovering the Healing Power of the Gospel, and if you'd like to join us on the air with a question of your own, our email address is chrisarnson at gmail dot com.

We have a listener, Dr. Gale, in Slovenia named Joe, and Joe in Slovenia says, Brother Chris, please ask Dr. Gale to address the seemingly common experience of believers who are sure of their salvation by grace alone, through faith alone, and Christ alone, who struggle with emotional and spiritual pain that more or less paralyzes them against consistent growth and grace, discipleship, service in the church, and generally keeps them from healthy Christian maturity.

Thanks for your service to Christ and his church. Well, Dr. Gale, do you have a response to Joe in Slovenia's question?

I'm sure he'd help me in my... Amen. And wouldn't you say that although this is a very real problem.

That Joe in Slovenia addresses, that there are Christians out there who should not be doubting their salvation or wrestling with assurance, wouldn't you say that in the 21st century, by far the more common dangerous problem plaguing evangelicalism, in fact plaguing Christendom, is people having a false assurance, who have no business having any assurance that they're truly children of God and truly saved and truly on their way to heaven?

I mean, even if you look at the statistics of how many people in the United States, the percentages of people in the United States who claim to be Christian, I mean, I think it's the majority of the vast majority of the population here makes that claim, and obviously that cannot be true.

But if you could comment on your thoughts.

With that. Well, guess what, Joe. In Slovenia, you have won a free copy of the book we are discussing,.

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Their website is cvbbs .com, and look for a package that says cvbbs .com on the label, and that's our gift to you for submitting a question today. And by the way, I have another book to highly recommend on that subject by Dr. Joel Beakey, who's been a guest on this program a number of times.

His doctoral dissertation eventually became a more popular book called The Quest for Full Assurance, The Legacy of Calvin and His Successors, also published by Reformation Heritage Books. So keep your eye out for that in catalogs and so on, or you can look it up at cvbbs .com, cvbbs .com, because they carry nearly everything by Reformation Heritage Books, so that would be another book that you might want to look up and purchase.

But we also have a listener in North Carolina. We have Pastor Sterling Vanderwerker, Pastor of Shepherd's Fellowship in Greensboro, North Carolina. I typically don't give people's full names, but I know that when I see a pastor who is pastoring a theologically reformed church, I'd like to give them a plug when I can, when they write in.

Pastor Sterling Vanderwerker says, a number of years ago I read a great description of depression by a church elder named Steve Lehrer. I found it quite helpful because it defined many pastoral counseling sessions for depression ending up in dealing with a sinful selfishness foundation.

How should a pastor differentiate between clinical psychological depression and simple selfishness-caused.

Depression? Oh yeah, I've had Ed Welch on the program. Where we want to talk about, do we actually believe? I think it's a matter of growing in this. You know, when we first encounter these truths, we believe them intellectually, we believe them in our heart by the work of the Holy Spirit to a certain degree.

We meet someone for the first time, we know them, and we're friends, but as we grow to know them, these things become more meaningful and can answer depression. One thing, there are so many feeding factors.

One of the things we want to do is to see what are the things that contribute to that downward spiral and how we can, how can we move the other direction. Great cloud of witnesses let us run with endurance the race marked out for us, tossing aside every encumbering to Him.

Well, thank you very much, Pastor Vanderwerker,.

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Forgiveness as Kingdom Currency and the Purpose of Confession

One of the next chapters in your book is forgiveness as kingdom currency. Very.

Interesting phrase, if you could explain that. Well, according to that same heading,.

Let me ask a couple of other questions. Is it biblical to forgive and forget? And not remembering. You know, there is a lot of talk today, not only amongst Christians, but a lot of secular psychologists and so on, and authors, self-help book authors, who talk about forgiveness as if the primary reason for it is to cleanse yourself of bitterness and harboring grudges and remaining stifled or imprisoned in your own life because you can't move past what someone has done with you.

And there may be elements of truth in all that. There are definitely blessings, I think, that come to us when we obey God, obviously. But is that really the primary goal of forgiveness is really to help ourselves?

It almost seems like a selfish motive to forgive someone else.

Negative thing, but no, I agree.

Why do we need to confess our sins if they are already forgiven? That actually reminds me, I don't know if you have ever heard of him, but there was a very popular national radio talk host, might have even been global, but I know he was national.

Bob George was his name. I don't think he is any longer in the radio ministry, but he had views that I would deem to be heretical. And he said in answer to that question, you shouldn't ask for forgiveness because your sins already have been forgiven if you are saved.

And he actually would say that it was absolutely wrong not only to ask forgiveness, but that would include obviously saying what is known as the Lord's Prayer. And he said the only reason Jesus gave that prayer in the scriptures is because that was before the cross.

But anyway, that may be too obscure of a reference for people to be aware of. But it is a good question, I think, though. Why do we need to confess our sins if they are already forgiven?

Yeah, it was that one. Could you say that there's two aspects of our forgiveness? For instance, a truly born-again.

Child of God will never be punished by the judge of all the earth, God in heaven. On that day of judgment, he is going to be welcomed into heaven. But as our heavenly father,.

He does chastise us. By the way, just to prevent people from confusing the heretical Bob George.

You know, the one that I'm referring to, maybe he does still host the program. I just know it went off the air for a while. But he hosted a program called People to People. And I've been in the radio industry for about 30 years or more.

And when I first started with the Salem Network in the 90s, he was a very popular program. And then it went off the air. But he may have returned to the airwaves. I don't know. But I don't want somebody else named Bob George to be upset thinking that I'm attributing this heretical concept of not asking for forgiveness and not confessing your sin to God to the other orthodox Bob George that you know.

We are going to go to another listener in Indianapolis, Indiana. But in fact, Aaron in Indianapolis, we're going to take your question after the break because I don't want to have to cut our guest short while answering you.

So if you can be patient, we'll go to your question after this break. If anybody else would like to join Aaron on the air with a question of your own, our email address is chrisarnson at gmail .com. Chrisarnson at gmail .com.

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We look forward to seeing you there January 19th through the 21st. In fact, there's an update on that. Many of you may not be aware that on January 18th at the Georgia Convention Center right there in Atlanta where the conference is being held, the day before the conference on January 18th, Dr. James R. White of Alpha and Omega Ministries is going to be debating a Roman Catholic apologist on whether or not a true Christian can lose his or her salvation.

So that's going to be an exciting event. I believe that's Trent Horn who is the Roman Catholic apologist who has accepted the challenge of Dr. White. That's Trent Horn of Catholic Answers. And I am very pleased that Catholic Answers has finally lifted the ban on debating Dr. James White because for years after they saw so many of their apologists not fare very well in debates with Dr. White, they had a ban against anyone debating him, but they finally apparently lifted it.

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Chrisarnson at gmail .com. We're talking about his book, Finding Forgiveness, Discovering the Healing Power of the Gospel. Aaron in Indianapolis, Indiana says, could Dr. Gale discuss the difference between forgiving and forgetting?

For example, if one's father has an affair and abandons his family, the child may have forgiven him, but the repercussions.

Live on. So how does the child know whether he or she had truly forgiven him? It's not a matter of that starts, you forgive. It's not, I need to be done is being at not remembering level of two. I know the movement toward.

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Well, I think that that would probably be a case by case situation, because there's a lot of reasons why somebody shouldn't be welcoming in anybody's home. Perhaps they're an unrepentant pedophile or something.

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Forgiving Enemies, Repentance, and the Limits of Forgiveness

One of the other areas that are important under this heading is, as far as the actual nuts and bolts of the matter, how do we actually go about.

Forgiving someone? In fact, speaking of pulled pork, I don't think that I've ever eaten pulled.

Pork where someone hasn't said to me, you've got some on your cheek, you've got it on your neck, you've got it on your shirt, you've got it on your sleeve. Well, this is what some of the things that you just said, I think also require some clarification in regard to consequences.

Like for instance, somebody murders your entire family and then requests that you visit them in prison. And this person behind the bulletproof glass is weeping and pleading with you to forgive them. If you believe that that is a genuine act of remorse and repentance that this person is demonstrating, you are obviously, as a Christian, obligated to forgive them.

But you would not say, guards, release this man, or let me get the warden in here. I want this person out on the street immediately because I've forgiven him and therefore he needs to be released. Obviously, that's not the way forgiveness works across the board in every circumstances.

There are sometimes circumstances that have repercussions, that have things connected to them, that does not get a person completely off scot-free in every realm of their life. Would you agree? Sure.

Now, since you also quoted Dr. Adams and I had brought him up earlier about a controversy that.

Exists amongst even theologically reformed people who disagree on this issue,. I don't know where you stand if you are completely on one side or the other or somewhere in between. But Dr. J. Adams believes that the sinner's repentance is absolutely essential for a Christian to extend forgiveness to them, whereas other very well-known and beloved figures, even amongst Calvinists like Dr. John MacArthur, does not believe that.

He believes that you are supposed to be, as a Christian, forgiving people even if they have no interest in asking for it. And perhaps that might even be the majority view amongst Christians, if not even the majority of theologically reformed people.

And I know another reformed author who stands with Dr. Adams on that wrote a really fascinating book called Unpacking Forgiveness, Biblical Answers for Complex Questions and Deep Wounds. Dr. Chris Brawns.

I've read that. Yeah, he would, as I said, agree with Dr. Adams on that. Do you stand.

On either side of that or somewhere in between? We want to be one to cover over, not excuse, not cover up. And so yes, that need to look for words of, we want to have some acknowledged. Right. Plus, sometimes a day, there's no first and foremost.

So we want to forgive them. You're not to hold. And by the way, I want to make it clear to our listeners that Dr. J. Adams in his.

Book From Forgiven to Forgiving and Dr. Chris Brawns in Unpacking Forgiveness, they would both wholeheartedly agree that we are to love our enemies, that we are to pray for our enemies, that we are to do good to our enemies.

But they would view that in a different category from forgiveness. They would just treat forgiveness as a specific thing that goes beyond what those things are. And so I just want to make sure that I'm not giving the impression to our listeners who are unfamiliar with those two men, that they are thinking that is proper for a Christian to harbor hatred and to seek revenge and all that kind of thing.

Yeah. If I could mention one other little twist, seven times, Lord increase my faith.

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Paul wrote to the church at Galatia, for am I now seeking the approval of man or of God? Or am I trying to please man? If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of Christ. Hi, I'm Mark Lukens, pastor of Providence Baptist Church.