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Welcome to Apologetics Live. We're here to answer your questions and challenges about God and the Bible. Meet your hosts from Striving for Eternity Ministries, Andrew Rappaport, Dr. Anthony Silvestro, and Pastor Justin Pierce.

Welcome to Apologetics Live. We're here to answer your questions and challenges about God and the Bible. Meet your hosts from Striving for Eternity Ministries, Andrew Rappaport, Dr. Anthony Silvestro, and Pastor Justin Pierce.

All right, we're live, not on location, and we had a loop. I didn't realize what was happening there. The intro was twice, so I guess it was so good you had to hear it again. So we are live. I am not still traveling, so not home yet.

I'm actually out in Florida at my dad's house. And still wanted to make sure that we did a show for you guys and not to miss an episode if we couldn't do it. So we wanted to make sure we did that. So welcome to Apologetics Live.

We will answer any questions tonight. This is an open Q &A, so any questions you have about God and the Bible, we can answer. Just remember, I don't know is a perfectly good answer. I'm hoping we're going to have a guest come in, and we're going to have some fun, if he does, having some chats.

First off, let me correct this. Kyle says, greetings, Dr. Andrew. I'm not Dr. Andrew. Pastor Andrew, maybe, but that's Dr. Anthony. You can call him Dr.

I think we have to find an honorary doctorate for you. Some online school. I'm going to buy it for you, and we can start calling you Dr. Andrew. I mean, it's so different than Dr. Ravi Zacharias or other doctors.

You know, we did we did an episode on that about how, you know, folks, if you go back and search the episode we did on Ravi Zacharias, one of the criticisms I had about Ravi, this is way back, was the fact that he claimed he had a doctorate from a university that denies that he ever attended classes.

Oops. OK, so Bill is asking this right off the bat. Andrew, did I miss the memo on the head shaving?

He got the Sylvester disease. No, no.

Let's let's be honest. Let me. Can we say what the reason is? I don't care. I can say what my reason is. The same reason. So so Anthony, I are both. Well, OK, we're both. I'm getting older, maybe not him, but the but we're working on a thing that an Anthony could tell you the things to do, the rosemary and whatnot to help hair growth.

And so part of the thing is you got to kind of shave your your head to get the the the the whatever it is you put on.

You have to cut your hair really short so you can get access to the scalp really well.

And yeah, actually, we're just trying to look like Drew Vanita. Is that that's really what it is, right? Yeah. Here's Drew saying that was not true. Drew, what is Drew saying? He's saying. He can he can do I could do a school divinity class in his.

They got a doctorate and all you had to do is fill out the blanks in a notebook. Wow. OK, so, yeah, that's not really a doctor. All right. So tonight is an open Q &A. We want to encourage folks to go to apologetics live dot com apologetics live dot com.

Go there. And when you go there, you will see a link that will it's a it's the duck icon is what it is. But that is the stream yard icon to to be able to join us. We'd like you to join us so that we can hear what your questions are.

And so I'll keep an eye out here if there's any questions in the chat. But one of the things I do want to do. So, Anthony, let's just talk about something to get started. And I may we didn't prep for this.

We're going to do a different show. But will you were on Iron Sharpens Iron today with Chris Arnzen talking about. Well, you talked a whole lot of issues. I mean, we were talking masks, COVID, government shutdowns, vaccines, a whole lot of things.

We do plan to do a show at some point. I sent you an article, the dilemma of the unvaccinated. It's you can see it on Epoch Times, folks, if you want to go check that out. But basically, it was basically like here's the summarization of that article that we'll do.

We'll do a whole show on this at some point and dissect it. But the whole the whole article basically is those that force people to get vaccinated are saying, OK, vaccines don't work. Get over it. Yeah.

We took your livelihood. We took we took your freedoms. We took everything we could because you didn't obey us. And the science doesn't support us.

Just get over it. And that would jack you up with a bunch of poisons that you can never get rid of completely out of your system.

Yeah. Yeah. It's it's unbelievable. And I don't know how to pronounce this. Jeffy, maybe. I don't know if I see his print, but it says God gives natural immunity. Yeah, that's that's the the point of it.

Just do it. You know, Anthony explained. If you go and listen to the to that show of Iron Sharpens Iron radio, you'll you'll hear Anthony give a whole list of things like here's what you could do naturally.

So, yeah, that's right. And and there's actually science behind what you can do naturally, unlike all the treatments that the medical profession was doing and the vaccines. So and kind of on that thread I saw earlier.

It's somebody just took a covid test. I'm trying to find it now. For Jesus. Says I'm doing a covid test, pray for it to be negative. Well, we'll pray for it to be negative if it isn't. Let me tell you what to do.

What should they do? Yes. What should they do? We talked about this on Iron Sharpens Iron radio today. And it is one hundred thousand I use of vitamin D. And you're going to split it up twice, you know, morning and night.

Fifty thousand morning, fifty thousand night. It seems like it's a lot and it's a ton. But you need to do that. There's a thousand milligrams of vitamin C every hour. You do zinc. Fifty milligrams morning.

Fifty milligrams night. And then quercetin. Depending on the study, either 250 or 500, I believe 500 is better. Five hundred milligrams of quercetin in the morning and night at the same time that the zinc is taken, because it's what helps drive the zinc into the cells.

And that is a minimum of what you should do. There's also articles you can read out there on nebulizers and how you use either peroxide and saline or iodine and saline or peroxide and iodine in saline in your nebulizer and start breathing that in through your nose and through your mouth, deep in your lungs to kill off any virus that's in there.

So please do that and get yourself out of being sick.

Someone's asking a question. What about ivermectin? Isn't that horse medicine?

Yeah, it's horse dewormer. What do you want that for? I mean, you know, I'll tell you one of the dumbest. Now, OK, there's there's a lot of dumb things we've heard in three in the last three years. Right.

That is really mind numbing. And one of them is when they were calling ivermectin a horse dewormer. So does that mean that every prescription medication we give to an animal is all of a sudden evil for humans?

Oh, guess what? These were all used in humans first and then given to animals. Amoxicillin. Is amoxicillin a horse antibiotic or a dog antibiotic? Because, you know, we use it on animals, too. It's is it is really, really dumb.

Ivermectin has been used for, oh, I don't know, 70 or 80 years, something like that. Maybe a little less than that on human beings. Yes. If you can get your hands on an ivermectin prescription, do it.

It is it is worth it. You've got to talk to a doctor. Make sure you have the correct dosage for your body weight. And it's actually advised now not to take ivermectin the moment you get sick. You're to take vitamins first.

If you can take hydroxychloroquine, if you get a prescription for that, that's what you take in the first couple of days. You don't take ivermectin until day four or day five. They've shown it to be much more effective later on after you've put a ton of vitamins in your system first.

So, you know, I know for us, we keep ivermectin on hand just in case, even though we've each had COVID twice. My wife, son and I. It wasn't bad the first time. It was even less the second time. And because we have not had the jab, chances are for us, COVID's kind of burned out.

And I'm not really worried about any future iterations of it.

Health, Immunity, and COVID Treatment

Yeah. So so here's some some comments we have coming in. Facebook user says, if I do the natural thing, am I going to go bald like you guys?

Actually, if I would have done the natural thing earlier, I probably wouldn't be bald.

Yeah. You know, in line with that, D says, God knows every hair on your head, so no worries.

So so what you're saying is he knows us less than other people with a full head of hair.

Well, there's there's less for him to know with us. But yeah. And so let me correct this. So and this threw me off because it's a new last name. Lorraine, this is this is someone who interviewed me for the radio when I was out in the Philippines.

But she recently got married. Congratulations. And so the last name threw me off. But she says, hello, pastors. Greetings from the Philippines. Good to see you both on another live convo. Hope hope have not been around tuning lately.

Well, yeah, you just got married. That's why you're not around. But but now I get to correct. He's not a pastor. He's a doctor.

So let's get these titles right. I don't get the pastor title. Yeah. I don't even play one on TV. All right.

So we have a question. Do you want to say anything more about the topic we're just on?

No, I mean, that's essentially it right now. You know, I know we talked for for the entirety of the two hour show. We covered a lot of the bases on this stuff, but that's pretty that's pretty the basic stuff for if you have code or if you're worried about it or if you want to prevent it.

Yeah. And so so we have someone. Let's see. Cody is saying dentists are not doctors.

We're not medical doctors. That is true. You know, the thing is, is that you don't have to be a medical doctor in all seriousness. Right. You don't need to be a medical doctor to to know what other naturopaths and other doctors are saying in regards to COVID.

Very similar to you don't need to be a biologist to know what a woman is, although although they should know what a woman is. Right. I mean, God has made it natural for us to know what a woman and a man is pretty, pretty easily.

Biology certainly helps that stuff. But yeah.

Amazon Smile, Ministry Support, and Announcements

Yeah. So let me my son-in-law actually just sent me a text and I was going to mention this and now probably a good time since I remembered it. For those of you who support Striving for Eternity by using smile .amazon .com that for years we we got a lot of money through that.

People who would just buy things on Amazon using smile .amazon .com and they would choose Striving for Eternity as their organization. And we would get half a percent of whatever they they bought. Amazon sent us an email today letting us know they're cutting us off along with many other nonprofits.

They're changing the way they're doing now. When you read what they say, it's quite interesting because they say that they've realized they're more effective in focusing their efforts on specific nonprofits.

Those that are building homes in third world countries or doing things by the way, the things they chose were all in the political realm, helping to push the political agenda. But the thing that that they're cutting out is many of those that are like us for religious purposes.

So if you do use smile to support us, just know that they are cutting us off soon. I think next month they will they're going to be cutting that out and we will be losing that form of income, which does help us as a ministry.

So just want to make that known to you. I guess I should say if you if you want to support us, a better way to support us is to go to strivingforeternity .org slash support. That's actually the best way to to support us so that that goes right to us and whatnot.

So let's get to the question we have from Bill here. Bill asked the question, does the doctrine of divine divine decree eliminate human will?

Divine Decree, Human Will, and Superintending

Well, this is like right in your wheelhouse, Andrew. This is like the doctrine that you teach and seems like nobody else really talks about and they need to learn it. So why don't you explain that to us again?

This this was actually what I was doing down at Beulah Baptist Church, January 1st. A great way to start the new year is to talk theology in a church service. And so this is the two terms, the two things that people think.

Right. Divine decree versus human will as if they are two mutually exclusive ideas. They are not. And this is why if you listen to my rap report podcast I did a few weeks ago, a bonus episode on the doctrine called super intending a very important doctrine to I actually called it super.

The doctrine superintending solving the Calvinism, Arminianism debate. And Anthony, you were not there January 1st at Beulah Baptist Church because you were preaching somewhere else last minute. Someone had called up Pastor Casey and said, hey, can you get someone that could fill in?

And Pastor Casey said, yeah, sacrificial lamb. Here's Anthony. I think more he wanted to make sure he's like, I'm going to make sure I hear what Andrew has to say.

But I know I really I've I have not heard you preach, even though I've read your book on this. I've heard you talk about it as as Drew says every week. Not quite. But sometimes it seems like it. I mean, I know the doctrine, but I still I really wanted to watch live your sermon.

Well, I think Drew's referring to the rap report podcast, because as we're going through the doctrine of regeneration and election, we have been hitting it over and over again because they're so essential in that.

And so Cody is saying that it's an ambitious title. And I started off Sunday at at Beulah Baptist Church saying, if I do my job well and I didn't use terms of Calvinism or Minionism, I use the terms God's sovereignty and human responsibility.

And I said out right from the beginning, if I do my job well, I will solve the dilemma people have between God's sovereignty and human responsibility. I was pleased to see that many people said that it was very helpful and that it really clarified things.

So let me let me give this as a nutshell and take a step back as we look at this. When we look at the doctrine of inspiration, we can look at that doctrine. And as we do, there are certain things that we see in the doctrine of inspiration that we could say who wrote the Book of Romans.

Well, we could say Paul. However, is that really the author? No. The real author is God. So even though Paul chose to write the words he made, Paul's style is different than Peter, than Moses's, than John's.

They have different styles. And even though they have different styles and they're writing their own words and Paul can say, hey, bring bring my cloak. It's going to be cold this winter or bring my books, personal things.

They're their own choices. And yet we say it's God's word. How? Well, it's God's word because every word and we would say even down to the letter, because Paul will make arguments about seed versus seeds, a plural.

Things like that down to the letter, down to the what's called the dot and tittle. The idea is that every mark is exactly as God intended it to be. So so when we say that we will hold in our hands of scripture is God's word, it's because God worked through the human authors.

So even though they chose of their own volition to write what they wrote, every letter was exactly as God intended it to be. Now, I don't find many people that debate me on that. They agree with that, at least within conservative Christian circles that believe in the doctrine of superintending for scripture.

However, we also see this in another area. Anthony, do you do good works as a Christian? Yes.

But do you do them? Well, I don't I don't generate them.

Correct. So when we do good works as a Christian, it's the same doctrine. God works through us. So the very things we choose to do are exactly as God intended them to be. And that's the doctrine of superintending.

And so when we look at that, we end up seeing that this doctrine applies in scripture. We see it in apply in our sanctification. So the the issue I would say is I just extend that out to the doctrine of regeneration.

And we have now solved the dilemma of God's decrees and human volition. So even though I chose God, I didn't choose him completely in and of myself. God worked through me so that the very choices that I made were exactly as God intended them to be in such a way where God gets all the credit.

So I can't take credit for the choice. Yet it was my choice. And you go, well, how can you resolve those those two? Well, see, that's the whole thing, is that we we don't resolve them by saying it's either or.

So Heffy, I think he said the pronunciation is Heffy. So do we don't have free will? Let me qualify that. We have a will that Romans makes very clear is enslaved to sin. Anthony's watching fireworks, I think, over there.

I'm trying to I hear him. I'm trying to find where they are. I mean, I would show it to everybody. I just don't know where they're at. Oh, I see where they're at there. Sadly, they're around the corner.

So there's Epcot, right? Way in the background. There you go.

Yeah, I had the better angle to see the fireworks when we were staying down there with you. But I love fireworks. So, you know, so Heffy is saying, did Adam and Eve have a free will? Now, that's the point.

Adam and Eve before the fall had a free will. They had a will that was not enslaved to sin, so they could freely choose. But after they chose to sin, we have a will that's enslaved to sin. And being enslaved to sin, it's no longer free.

We have a will. We do make choices. But it is not free from sin. And that's the difference. Now, as believers, now we do have a free will. We have a will that we can choose to do right. I see Anthony, the third there behind you.

Does he know he was in camera? I don't think he knows he was in camera. He's looking for fireworks. Good fireworks, yeah. So what we see is when we look at in the passages I preached in there in Beulah was Romans chapter 9 and Romans chapter 10.

They're both together. So you should let your wife know that she's on camera, too.

I don't think I'll tell Julie she's on camera right now. Hi, Julie. With her big fuzzy coat on, even though it's like, I don't know, 70 degrees out.

Yeah, she's not like my bride who literally ducks under the camera to avoid. She'll crawl on the ground to avoid it, even when we're recording where the video won't be used. So the question that we end up having here is, Heffy asks, if Calvinism is true, God's elect people to hell, not true Bible is all choice.

I'm not sure I understand that fully. So, Heffy, if you could retype that question, maybe I can understand that better. And I know there's a delay, so we'll wait. Oh, hey, here's Carol saying hi, Julie and Anthony three.

So there you go. Hey, Julie. Carol says hi. OK. So Heffy is asking, why is the warning in the Bible if we don't have free will? So the issue is this is the misnomer. Don't assume that it's one or the other.

It's not that it's God's sovereignty or human responsibility. It's both. OK. We do have a choice in the matter. And yet it's not our choice alone. God works through us such that the choice we make is exactly as He intended it to be.

And so and if this is new for you, Heffy, I'll encourage you to go listen to my rap report on superintending that podcast on Andrew Rappert's rap report. Also, look for Beulah Baptist Church. Maybe Anthony can do a search right now.

Find the link to that video, Beulah Baptist Church, YouTube, and we could post that link in there. But if you search Beulah Baptist Church, Winter Garden, Florida, and on YouTube, you'll be able to find it, I'm sure.

But Heffy, the thing you have to understand is that it's not an either or. And part of this that we have to wrap our heads around is, Heffy, you and I, we are limited creatures. We're finite creatures.

So what that means is that you and I struggle with the fact that we don't know everything. We learn things. We observe things. And so what we see is God is all known. There's nothing he doesn't know. So the other thing is that God's eternal.

So everything's like an eternal now to him. And you and I can't figure that out. Okay. And so Heffy had said here, where was his? He said something about leaving out scripture, but I can't. Oh, here it is.

He said, so we leave out scripture. No, we don't leave scripture out, Heffy. And Heffy, if you want to join, that'd be better, because it'd be easier to have the dialogue. Because then we can really make sure we answer your questions.

But when we're quoting scripture, that's why I say Romans chapter 9, Romans chapter 10, they're right next to each other. In Romans chapter 9, it makes it really clear that God chose us. So theologically, God chose us.

And then you see that in Romans chapter 10, if you confess with your mouth and believe in your heart, you will be saved. So he's asking, should I join? Yes, please, please join. Drew is backstage. I'll bring Drew in.

Drew is one half of Matter of Theology. He's got his beautiful bald head covered. I don't know why. We're trying to look at him and he's covering it.

Sorry, I didn't want to be another one of the bald guys. Would it make you feel better if I took my hat off? No, no, that's fine. Okay. I mean, because it's hard to be bald and beautiful. And so, you know, I covered it up.

I was going to say the more that you cover up, the better, you know. As I said to Chris Arnzen today, you know, I told Chris Arnzen that he may have a face for radio, but I have the face for a horror movie.

That's true. Yeah. No one disagrees with me on that either.

So Drew, what do you got for us tonight? Well, no, I mean, you guys were, all the questions were about Calvinism and you were talking about Calvinism. So that's a topic that we cover a lot of all the time and I get in discussions about.

So let's be clear. You cover a lot of the time on? Matter of Theology.

There you go. So we cover a lot of Reformed Theology topics. One being the idea of predestination and free will.

And I'm trying to look. There was a comment. I missed a comment here that before Little Anthony walks away, Big Anthony, if you see Little Anthony, you have to tell him there's someone that said he looks like he's six foot seven inches tall from the angle.

Yeah, there's someone that makes you look six foot seven right now from the angle. He actually is taller than me now, which I guess is not hard to be, but he's about an inch taller now.

Yeah, but he's not taller than me yet.

Well, it's crazy because last time I saw him in person was in Indiana for the Cruciform Conference and he was shorter than me. That's right, a year and a half ago. So now that means he's probably taller than me.

He shut up. He shut up. He's at that age, 15 years old, where they just suddenly shoot up. They get real tall, real thin, the boys.

See, I never experienced that because I've been the same height since eighth grade.

So I never experienced that. So I entered freshman year of high school five foot tall. I entered sophomore year five ten. And by the end of sophomore year, I was six foot. So, yeah, I had a large growth spurt freshman year.

Melissa says my husband said that bald guys are the coolest. That is absolutely true.

Well, you're not bald yet, Anthony. So I guess you're going to have to get in there.

Anthony, he's also better looking. Good. Find him a good looking Christian wife then.

So, Drew, what you know, you guys cover the topic of and we're hoping that have you will get come in and be able to.

Hey, hey, hey. OK, thank you.

So what are some of the views that you guys cover on matter of theology dealing with these topics? Yeah.

Excuse me. So in covering the idea of predestination and free will, what we do a lot of times is how the view takes place is people read into Scripture their idea of free will. It's something that's always been taught as though it's a true thing.

And so I've had people tell me, well, we know two things are true. God is sovereign and man has free will. And I'm like, well, wait a minute. We know one of those things is true. We know the other one is man is enslaved to his will, because all throughout Scripture you see man is in bondage to his will or to his to his sin.

And what he needs is a will set free and the will set free only comes from God's sovereign decree. And so there was a there was a comment in the in the chat about predestination. I'm trying to find it.

Predestination being God looking through time or something like that. I hear that question. Predestination is God foresight of what we of what we do with our free will. So that's basically the God looking through the corridors of time.

So people will say we have free will again, reading it into the Bible because they read it into the Bible because they go, well, I make choices. People make choices. People in the Bible make choices about everything.

Therefore, free will must exist. First of all, that's not the free will argument, the free will argument. It has to do with salvation. It's a salvific topic. Can dead fallen man choose in his own will with his stony heart?

Can he choose to follow a holy God? The answer is no, because as R .C. Sproul says, if I can choose God with my old heart, I have no need for a new one. So this idea of God looking through the corridors of time and seeing what man will do based upon man's free will.

No, that's not true, because if God looks through the corridors of time and sees who will choose him and predestines them according to that, while God's taking in knowledge and he's learning something and then he's making a decision based off of something he's learned.

Now what you've done is you've taken away God's omniscience. So now he's not all knowing. Also, if God looks through time, sees who won't choose him, and predestines them according to them not choosing him, well now you're saying he doesn't have the power to bring them to himself, to draw them to himself.

So now you've taken away his omnipotence. So with one statement, one idea, you've taken away two vital characteristics of God that make God, God.

And this, what you're bringing out, Drew, is a very important point that anyone who's taken our Striving for Trinity courses on systematic theology has heard me say this over and over again, is that when you do theology, it has to be rooted in the nature of God.

If you have any kind of theology that starts messing with the attributes of God, you have a different God than the God of the Bible. So once you say God has to look down the tunnels of time to see who would be saved, well, you have a God that has to learn.

He's not omniscient. And by the way, if he's looking down the tunnels of time, he's also not eternal. Now all of a sudden you have yourself a dilemma because you now have someone who's not from the God of the Bible.

So help me, Drew, how's his name pronounced again? Hefe. All right, so let me welcome in Hefe. And Hefe, I was told, I was told here, I'm getting an echo from you.

Oh, I'm sorry. Give me one second. One second. Okay.

And I was told that Hefe means, from Captain Black Eagle here, he said, Hefe means chief or boss. Now I like that. I like that. I'm going to tell you why. There were many evangelists, open air evangelists that used to call me boss for a very silly reason.

One of the things I would do when handing out gospel tracts is I would hand out a tract and I would say to any guy, I would say, did you get one of these boss? And it's amazing just calling a guy boss.

He's more likely to take a gospel tract. And I had a friend who thought that was the stupidest thing ever. And I'm sitting there in New York and I have my tract out. And I said, hey, did you get one of these?

And the guy's got his hand up like, no, thank you. And on the word boss, he literally turned behind him, put his hand behind him to take the tract. And my friend is like, I'm calling everyone boss.

Yeah. It does respect. It lifts them up. I'm a huge tract guy. So thank you so much. I appreciate that.

Yeah. Then I'll give you the secret. I'll give you the secret I learned for women. If you want to hand a tract to a woman, you hand it to them and say, when you hand it, this is just for you. Now, I don't know why they think if it's just for them, they're more likely to take it.

Because I'm going to say it's just for them for the next woman. But if for some reason, if a woman thinks she's the only one getting it, she wants it.

Awesome. Very good. Thank you so much. I appreciate that. That's a gem right there.

And Pastor Darren is saying, dude, this guy is bald too? Yes, sir. That's great. You know, we're going to have to make this, you know, maybe that's why that's why Katie is saying, Justin, Pete better come back before this guy takes over referring to Drew.

But it may be that when he comes back, he's going to have to be bald.

That's the new that's the new requirement.

There you go. Yeah.

So if you want to be a host on Striving on Apologetics Live, Striving for Eternity, question, are you bald? Yeah. Otherwise you don't pass. You don't make it.

So this will be a lot easier now to have the discussion. So far, have you understood what I was saying with the doctrine of superintending?

A little bit. I heard bits and pieces of it. You said that.

Go ahead. Repeat that one more time. Yeah, let me work it through with you. Let me start with the doctrine of inspiration. Who who wrote. I was going to say who wrote the book of Hebrews just to throw you off.

But I understand that. Yeah, I see that. But who wrote Romans?

Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit. You're right. But but yet we would say Paul, Paul chose the words, right? Right. So even though Paul chose the words and he would say he chose the words, what he experienced was him choosing the words.

And yet we would say that God chose those words because he intended it. Now, people go, well, how could they both be in play? Because God could work through them in such a way that the very things that he chose to write were exactly as God intended it.

And so I see the same in regeneration. So people say, did I choose God? I'll say experientially, yes, I experientially chose God. But theologically, God chose me.

Sure. Yeah. God chose you and you were willing to be obedient. It wasn't like God uses a disobedient vessel to do his will. So therefore, you know, if it was a ninety nine percent God or one percent as we always give him the glory, we understand that.

I mean, he gets he gets all the glory.

He gets all the glory. Correct. We understand that. But so that's why he gives us rewards, because he wants us to do good. And that's why the Bible says we were created for good works. And that's why the Bible says, don't be like the sluggard, because the slugger to the lazy Christian, you know, Bible warns us.

Don't be like that person. Correct.

Would you say would you agree with that? OK, hold on. We got to back up for a moment because I want to let's let's answer that. You said something that I have to make sure it's I have to make sure what you said is correct.

Did you. Because maybe you didn't intend on saying this. Are you saying that somebody has to have has to do good things in order to be chosen by God?

Or I'm saying God created us for good works, which is what the Bible says. Correct.

I agree. The moment somebody is saved, they have good works. He's prepared ahead. He's prepared already ahead of time, according to Ephesians 2, verse 10. That's what I'm asking, though, with with what you said earlier.

Does does he take the vilest of sinners who aren't doing good and all of a sudden changes them in a moment's time and saves them? Gives them a new will, new desires, and now they're saved unto good works.