Fight Laugh Feast 2023: Gabe Rench, Sye Bruggencate, Keith Foskey, Man Alive, & More! Part 2 DMW#193

Well, yeah, usually we do. We do an intro, but I'm gonna be mashing these up. So.

All right. We'll just get into it. Sounds good.

Marcus Marcus. You trim the beard. I feel like the last time I saw he's about twice as long.

I'm in the venture capital world now and I. You know and like, you know, you don't know what scares people, right?

Well, you know what's tough about that by the way. We're with Marcus Pittman Lord at TV. With a long beard because I just took about four inches off mine right two days before I came here. Apologies. Yeah, and I've noticed though and I'm a realtor as well.

Yeah, so if you don't brush that thing and keep it straightened and I mean it can get real crazy to wear. Some of my clients I'd show up to the showing and they're like wait, are you are you the realtor?

Are you the squatter? A fine line between like homeless guy. Yeah, it is professional, right? No, I like it looks good. Man, thanks, man. Appreciate it. It's all trimmed up, you know.

Venture Capital, Risk, and the Parable of the Talents

How is the venture capitalist? Hat wearing going it's a it's a different world man. Yeah, it's a different world. It's it's. It's. You're you're trying to get people I describe it as basically like you're trying to get people to be less of a coward.

Like that's all that's all it is, right? So you have you know the story that the parable the talents. Sure, right and you know Jesus rebuked the guy that just buried his money in the sand. So like you're your const.

It's a constant pitch to like we think hey, dude, yeah, don't be the guy that Barriers your money in the sand invest in lore. And I think that's like, you know, that's like then to go you have to prove like so every say well.

How many subscribers do you have? How's your growth rate? You do things to give venture capitalists More courage, right? Um, so that's just kind of what what the entrepreneurs job is Yeah is to is to instill bravery and so.

Yeah, so we had Jason we had Jason on earlier and we talked a little bit about the subscription model and stuff they can do. So we're not gonna cover that too much. I was thinking maybe since you're kind of at the forefront of this and you you know, geez, I think a few years ago.

When we were in South Dakota together, you were just kind of launching and getting it together now now you're a few years down the road. But you're at the you're kind of at the forefront of the entrepreneurial part of it.

I don't see this was your idea and we got a lot of listeners that are in that out. You know, I own my own business. You're in the entrepreneurial space you own your own business. Maybe we could talk to them a little bit about.

Maybe they're out there thinking about taking that jump. Yeah going. You know what? I think it's time for me to build something. Yeah, it's time for me to do that. What are some things they need to know?

What are some things some struggles some successes? I mean, what do you tell that 24 year old 28 year old 32 year old? However, and he's going yeah, dude, it's time to build something man. I'm listening, but now I want to do it.

Yeah, I think.

You should you should do what you love and I think. Eating. Yeah. Have you seen the youtubers who like YouTube videos? I was making a joke, but you're no. Like look you can make money doing anything. You know, I always say like I want to teach my kids to monetize Their passions, yeah, right, you know if I don't have any kids.

But if I did I was like if they're playing video games. I would my instructions would be that but it would be how are you gonna make money? Yeah playing video games, right, you know, you can be developer.

You can be a twitch streamer. There's a lot of things you can do, right? But if you're gonna play video games all day, you got to figure out how to monetize it.

Isn't that a different mindset than even our parents generation or their parents generation of like you've got five choices or something you could do.

Yeah, we got to go to school. So yeah, yeah work for the man. Science tech was it engineering math or whatever?

Yes stem. Yeah. Yeah now it's and I truly believe in that I've said I've I always want My kids and I want every entrepreneur just have a great work ethic and be curious if you can ask why and why does it?

Work that way. Why do people need that? Why do we have this deficiency in the market? Why why why if you can answer to be the person that's curious and answer those questions and. You have a healthy work ethic a biblical proverb work ethic.

Well, then I think you're gonna be okay.

You have some downs and struggles. Oh, that's hard. It's super hard and Biden like Biden's economy doesn't make it easier. I know right, you know, I was like literally the hardest thing, right?

But I think I think it's lucky right in the face and tell you it's the best economy. It's ever been. Inflation is.

Oh, it's so great. But we feel that we know it, right? Everybody everybody I mean you got dude like people are buying chickens and putting them in their yard now like never before in history. Economy's doing great, but everybody's like suddenly nervous to buy chicken eggs from the grocery store.

Yeah, you know, okay. Yeah.

So so what. So what do we tell the guys that are trying to build something? It's hard. We know that yeah.

I know it's hard that that's my why they're putting it on. I think I think two things one this gets back to my like Risk averse. Christians are not called to be risk adverse. Mm-hmm, right the Bible says that cowards go to hell.

Yeah, right being very clear like that's what it says. So we're called to do hard things. Yeah, and you know, I think like boomers boomers have kind of Ruined the generation that came after them because they took the secure job.

Yeah, right they took the factory gig. They just hung out and like that was what they did and they never read, you know. They're like I worked 40 years. To get this stipend or this retirement plan and then they just blow it all on their retirement.

And then they don't leave anything to their kids. Yeah, right. Like I don't think that we're called to do that. We are we are called to build big companies and to build big industry. And yeah, and and to create massive culture and all that's hard but I don't think like the the wisdom is I'm just gonna do this thing and Just wait till my retirement check.

I just I don't think that's that's a whole generation though.

Just like you said like literally I can give you the age group the boomer age. That's what yeah.

No, that's the whole boomer the whole boomer age group and there's some people I know that that are doing that play. But that's just because they've been in it so long and now they realize well now it's it doesn't make sense.

Yeah, but but uh, but so so like if you're if that's what you're doing. Like and that's what you've been in like it's fine, but I would still try to figure out like alternative income. For your families.

Yeah I think that's really critical because like Like the risk is like not knowing if you're gonna live long enough to get to that retirement baggage. Oh 100 right. So so I think what some boomers have done that they've they've they've thrown away Inheritances, yeah on cruise ships and and all that sort of stuff cheap shrimp and cheap Chris but yeah, no, that's that's exactly that's exactly what they've done.

Well, that's the you know, it's funny.

You say cruise ships, but that's the mentality if you talk to someone in the United States, especially even a boomer. We're not this doesn't pick on boomers episode. Maybe yeah, it is. If they go, oh, it's all if the food is so delicious all you can eat like we're just so concerned about cheap.

Nasty buffet food on a yeah. Yeah. Look at I've been on cruises. I'm not bashing cruises, but it's like that's what's so important to us. It's all I can eat. Yeah, it's like well, first of all the quality of the food sucks.

Yeah, that's great. I've been on a couple cruises that cost money and I go. Yeah, I make better food and you know in my on my grill. Then what's here but it's just crazy that that's the mindset to I know no side so they blow their children's inheritance, right?

What is a wise man doing proverbs? What does he do? He gives inheritance to who his children and his children. Yeah, sure.

Yeah, that's right and and and so like that's like that's that's a the thing that we have to figure out and I think what's happened now is like you know, the younger generation is seen like that, you know, the world that they live they've inherited is Awful.

Yeah, and they're angry. At the generation that came before them. I think rightfully so in most cases and. And I think now this is why you see a lot of Gen Z guys like watching Joe Rogan. Yeah, right or watching Jordan Jordan Peterson because they're like, all right, I want to build something better.

Yep, right like that like so that that should be. I think that's that is how it balances out like you have safety and comfort. And then you have all these guys who who like just destroyed the nation that they had.

Yeah, and then now like the younger generations like all right, we got to get it back cuz no you're totally right I'm going to school with with dudes pretending to be a woman and like I don't think that's like most.

Most yeah, the younger generation thinks it's absurd. Yeah, uncle Larry just had his period and you know. What kind of world are we living in right? Yeah. You know what's crazy though is I'm also seeing because of that because of the past generations and a little bit to the Millennials as well to after the boomers the the Gen Z guys are actually becoming a little more efficient and not quite as dependent.

Upon material goods because they don't have access to them. They go. Well, I it's hard to buy a house. It's right. It's maybe I go tiny house. I go more efficient in my personal life so that I can spend my time and money on this thing.

I'm building. Yeah, it's actually a blessing in disguise because I've seen some Gen Z's take that approach them. You know late teens early 20s in that generation where they're going. Yeah, we don't care if we live in a in a 600 square foot house me and my wife.

We don't have kids right now, but we're gonna put all our energies into this company. We're building or this platform we're doing. Because they've seen the excess of the boomers and yeah to some extent the Millennials.

So I think it can be a blessing in disguise as well. The the skip a generation kind of balancing out yeah, we've had for the previous 50 years.

Yeah, yeah, I think I think that's what we're seeing. But we're also seeing like a lot of those guys who are doing that tiny house stuff. They're they're becoming content creators they're focusing on stories and art and.

And they're figuring out ways to like like go back to like monetizing your passion, right? Like so yeah, like that's that's really like the key the magic of Of Building a company is is like this is something like like like the the curse as our has been reversed.

Right, you know Genesis 6 when Noah gets off the ark, you know, God says no more. Well, I curse the ground on account of man, right, right. So so so now it's all about just getting rid of the remnants of What was what was done with Adam?

Christ died on the cross again. Christ died on the cross. He rose again and now We get to guard in the earth. Right. And so this is like one of the things like like AI is gonna be a huge blessing not a curse.

Yeah, because Because it's going to free us up from The hard labor of our hands like right like it's gonna we're gonna relieve us from the suffering over. It's exactly what happens when Noah gets off the ark.

God, you know God says I'll relieve them from the suffering of you know, the work of their painful work of their hands.

Technology, Dominion, and Christian Futurism

Why do you why do you think we have such a big swath of Western? Christians American Christians in the evangelical world that is just deathly scared of technology like every general every.

Christian is I don't know if everyone I mean every generate not every Christian every generation of Christians. There's a fear.

Scanners the beast. Yeah, thanks machine. They can beat us in chess now. It's gonna dance. Yeah. It goes. Well, that is amazing. Aren't they just tools that the Lord gives us that we can use for his glory.

Hey AI is AI is gonna change the world like no one's ever seen before. It's not gonna be changed in the way of the horror movies right and the dystopian Nightmare stuff but like that like this is like like AI preacher, dude.

I think I think why I am I'm just I'm just I'm just very much a futurist because I'm post mill. So I apply that actual Technology like George Grant on the Canon Plus app has a really good that we were just listening to here on the Industrial Revolution.

Yeah, right like it like he went back farther than like we know the Industrial Revolution but he went way back to like you know the Navigators that were like Christians and they knew that like if they wanted to have the greatest country in the world We had to be the best navigators of the sea.

So they developed like compass technology and mapping and like all the sorts of like it's always the Christians that pioneer the tech when you go Through history, right? And then yeah, you know for we we had the printing press and then we have.

You know Morse code the Enlightenment of the sciences to were mostly Christian as well.

The big jumps in the sciences. Yeah, the big jumps in the sciences were. I can't remember what it has go but.

Newton's Newton. Yeah, yeah. His last. What is it when he wrote when he wrote his thesis? It was actually a theological thesis. He was writing it. Oh. Well, this is what happens, you know. Turn the mics and I forget what I'm talking about.

Essentially though I'm agreeing with you.

Yeah, yeah, but they're like the the creation of the very first words on telegraph is from Scripture. What hath God wrought? And then the very first transatlantic communication between The president and the Queen of England Was basically like made this technology be used for the furtherance of the gospel among all the nations and peace on earth.

So why we lost that as believers like we don't believe that we should be at the forefront of technology. No, we sold.

No, like the boomers I go back to the boomers again. They've sold it. They sold every. Sold everything they've they've built they've made so like all the tech companies. We like every like this go back to the venture capitalists, right?

Like okay, they're like what's your exit plan? Like well, how are you gonna sell your company so I can get my money back? You know, it's like well, you know, I want my great-grandchildren to benefit from this company.

So I don't really want it. So that makes you harder to invest in. You know, so yeah, so like, you know, obviously you want the venture capitalists to make money yeah, and like of course like, you know, like what when you know when it when I when I when I.

When someone invests in your company. They're they're saying I'm going to help you carry your burdens. Yeah, and then in return you Reward them for a delay reward. That's right. So so so see that's what investment is.

It's carrying each other's burdens and uh, and and and and and so. Through a company that doesn't exit that that return is on profit. Right, so so you'll you'll get that continually as long as you're you own equity in the company yeah, you'll get you'll get profit that way and.

For like the VC game like that isn't that they they got like a five-year plan on every. You know on every investment at least five years, you know. We got to try to figure out how to like maximize our return.

So exit sell it for 10x, you know, whatever. But what's what that does is like we we've lost it. Like we don't own anything anymore. We don't have we don't we don't own Google. We don't own Amazon we don't know we don't own any of the big tech companies, you know.

And and and so like that's what we have to do is we have to figure out well, how do we build companies? Where the old time it sounds like where the only exit strategy is death. Right, like that's the exit strategy and then inheritance to your children.

Yeah, you know and so like like that's what that's what that's what we got to start building. And and so like the investment Christian investors need to be more aware of that as like yeah. Yeah, so I'm an investing in your company and my great-grandchildren.

May get profits. Yeah from this investment later down the road, right? But but but but the the plan of like I just got to get that investment within like five years. And so I'm expecting you to sell it.

Yeah. That's like not a good like that's the way the world works and thinks but I don't think that's the long-term Christian view of investment. Yeah, that's you don't want To invest in someone and carry their burdens with that investment.

But then place a burden on them to basically not allow that.

Company to go to their children. Yeah or the future generations. Yeah, I'm just a little you know I like talking to you because I see out there and there's a lot of guys here at the fight left feast conference that are doing similar things in the way of entrepreneurship and you know, like VC and all that stuff, but You know, you're you're basically out there practicing what you preach.

We need more Christians doing that. It irks me that we've just kind of given up industries. We think we're just consumers instead of creators. We were made in the image of God. He is a creator. We should be creators, right?

I even see to I see a real need within Even within our reform circles of someone, you know. Financial investment and understanding trusts in the waterfall effect. I mean if the Rockefellers can you know get together create a trust buy cash value life insurance on each other take out loans against That to build things and then pay it out where they just dump it back in and it's literally called the the waterfall effect.

It's a hundred percent legal and that's how they remain multi multi multi billionaires in power creating things I don't see why we can't do that. Why don't we have Christians building it and going? Okay, let's use the tools and the mechanism the financial mechanisms of The country to do those kind of things and pass on wealth and like you said the only exit strategy is death, right?

Yeah, yeah, I I think there's there's a I think it has to do with just the Christian pietistic mentality of You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna just I'm just gonna give this money You know to build the ark like we're here dark.

Yeah, there's good. Like just like just gonna raise all this money and just basically donation. Yeah, right. And and and not like that's like some of that's really good. Yeah. But but those same people that would give right a million-dollar check for The ark encounter because it's evangelistic.

Yeah. Won't write a $50 ,000 check for an investment that they would lose money. They might lose money on right, right. So I think there really is a reason why in Scripture Jesus said okay in the canon We have to put an investment parable in there.

Yeah about the coward who just buries his.

Money in the sand. And and obviously because in that parable to the one who gets praised took risk. That's right.

We remember that right and I think like, you know, there there's a. Obviously, there's a spiritual meaning for that parable, obviously. Yeah. But if the practical aspect the temporal aspect of that isn't grounded in truth, then the spiritual part doesn't matter, right?

So so we know then that the when God says I could have made more money in a bank than giving it to you. That doesn't mean we should put our money in the bank, right? And I think like with interest rates are really high right now like you make a lot of money in the bank right now.

You know, so so like that's a rule like this real thing. But like if those if that bank collapses, yeah, the economy tanks. Really your safe bet is in having your money in businesses. Yeah, right not having it stored away at a bank.

So, you know what? I didn't know this side subject then we'll wrap this up here. But most regional banks don't hold any more than fifteen thousand dollars in cash in their vault. Really? Yeah crazy because I work in an industry where I might come in with thirty thousand dollars worth of checks and need five or six.

You know, I'm not okay. I paid weekly as a commercial residential broker, right? It's like I could go two months without pay. Yeah budget accordingly. And I've been in multiple times and they go. Oh we got to order money from Brinks.

You can come back in a few days. Yeah, I want seven grand and I go seven grand isn't that much money if you think about it, right? I mean, it sounds like it's not you know, and I checked around at other banks.

Oh, yeah. We hold about 15 ,000 anything other than that. We have to order takes two three days and it's all on backlog and it's a very fragile system the bank. Well, I mean You know your buddy Jeff Durbin and say they've yeah.

They've talked about that at like like fractional banking and right, you know, but people don't even realize that right. And I would say this if you think you're gonna make your retirement off of a five five percent return on a CD.

Dude, there's better ways to and come talk to me. First of all, yeah. Seriously, yeah, right. I tell you what you make five percent in real estate. You should get out of real estate, right? You know, I mean, that's right.

You better be making thirty to forty percent on your on your ROI. So. But man, I love it. Thanks for stopping by talking to us. Obviously, we're huge supporters. You tell everyone where they can find you if they yeah.

If you go to lore .tv You could go there and there's actually an investment tab if you're interested in investing in what we're building. We're raising venture capital right now. We spent three years.

We've raised eight hundred fifty thousand dollars total and we've launched the product. So we like to say we've kept every Investor promise we've made with every check for the past three years and we got to launch.

And now now it's all about. Okay. Now we need money. Just to grow. The baby is now that is born. Yeah, we need to feed it. And so that's where we're at, which is a good place to be.

Yeah, not a lot of companies. It's not a lot of companies can get to that point so that's just where we're at right now and.

It's just about just you know.

Yeah building and growing and scaling so cool guys. Thanks for listening to the episode. We're gonna mash these all up. That was Marcus Pittman Christian movie shouldn't suck lore .tv. Go check them out.

Thanks guys. Usually do this posture what I do with my hands, okay, I usually do this and then you know, my leg falls asleep. What does an old man now?

I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good, buddy. Oh, let's just jump right into it cuz we're mashing these up. So it's gonna be a fun. Nice, let's go. I'm ready. Oh Stuart Kyle. What's up guys? What's up, man?

Hanging out, buddy.

I'm only on my first cup of coffee. So I'm not quite you're not quite. I'm not at 10. I'm about 9.

So we got a coffee here. We're ready to go. It's been great hanging out with everybody this trip, man.

Union. Yeah, absolutely doesn't it feel that way when you come to fight left feast. Obviously. For those listening we're continuing our Episodes at fight that feast conference at the arc encounter and with Stuart and Kyle from page 50.

Great company. Been awesome watching you Just grow and what you guys are doing and bringing on new people exploring new spaces. Obviously if you guys been listening for a while, you know, they partnered with the show in the past and we appreciate them.

We got leads from that. Oh good. A couple it was very cool. That is how it's supposed to work.

It's been very good, it's the Lord's blessed. We've seen lots of lots of fruit in the company. And so we're just kind of seeing what the next thing is at this phase.

Yeah, it's been a very cool. Very cool season. Give us the 30-second elevator picture. What you guys do for those listening. I know we don't have a whole lot of time here, but we're gonna get into it.

We're a full-service marketing and media production company based in Southwest, Louisiana. We like to do initial meets with a client see what holes they might have in their marketing and media production systems and then supplement Fill those holes.

There are some clients that we work full-service front to back for them and there are some clients that we step in and say well. You've got you know, these three things already going but we can help you with SEO work or your user experience on your website is real Poor so that's causing you to have some abandoned card issues.

We can revamp it for you. Yeah, just kind of works like that. We we recognize that People need assistance in these areas. Yeah. And they often don't know what areas specifically they need assistance in so we like to start off with kind of a consult Evaluation and make some recommendations based on that and obviously we work with you know, we work with just about anybody.

We have been fired because we're you know, not progressives that's happened before Praise God Amen. But we are ideal client as Christians because we want to help people, you know fight and build the kingdom and sure forward.

So if you're wanting to run for office, we want to help you.

We've done that Christian and if you want to run the office.

I should say we want to help you if you're a Christian and you're trying to build your business. We want to help you like yeah.

What's our batting average on?

Candidates because I feel like it's really high for elections. Yeah, so. Are you guys the rainmakers? Let me say it this way makers king makers. I'll say it this way we've the Guy who came in to run with us because he was a Christian.

Because we were Christians. He I did what we said and he won by a landslide. There you go. So yeah, I mean we. Can you mention the name?

Er, no, Scott. Yeah, it's got your. He's a politician you want you to mention his name. He ran for City Council on a town of like it's barely 4 ,000 it's a small town. But they it's a crazy story where does the mayor and the previous City Council basically ran off with a bunch of money.

Yeah, it was a while. Their fire was shut down. You said you said it's a unique story, but it really isn't. Well, we got a guy here that I'm encouraging to run for County Commissioner in Indiana. And he told me the story of what was going on with land purchases with ARPA funds and I go dude.

That's the county over from me. I mean, it's just non-stop Corruption at the local level people don't people just don't know about it because they don't hear about it. They're not in it, you know, they have jobs and stuff, but right circling back to what you do.

I just said circling back. Geez, it's like I'm working for the White House Press. Sorry. But you're actually circling back. Yeah, I'm actually circling back I'm gonna answer it you made a very good point that I want to kind of point out to people listening because I meet a lot of young guys that want to start businesses.

Entrepreneurs kind of have a personality set anyway. Where they just really like to either be in control or do do those things or you always hear? Oh you wear 50 hats let me tell you guys something I think you might agree with this like Companies like yours I get to the age of I'm 42 you start to realize it is more time effective.

Cost effective better for my company to let experts handle. Yes certain parts of my business. If you I don't I shouldn't be wearing 10 hats. I should be going to page 50 and go look at I need this off My plate.

I need experts that do this every single day all the time, right? Tell me what I need to do and relinquish some of that control, which I also think is biblical, too. Sometimes as entrepreneurs we want to control everyone.

It's a pride. It's kind of a pride issue for me. It has been.

I'm not saying everyone well, and so yeah, so like folks who are looking to step into the next phase of life. Yeah. It is essential for them to like the faith next phase of life of their business. It's essential for them to be able to delegate if they thought you were going into a morgue.

They can't delegate. They can't do the things that they're good at and they're never gonna be able to grow beyond a certain point. Yeah. And for businesses who make on average a little bit more than a quarter million half a million dollars a year.

That it's time for them to hand things off. We're gonna need to hand things off in order to grow. Properly in order for them to kind of continue to advance the kingdom of Christ. Advance the cause move forward.

They need to be able to do that and as contractors. We're the great in-between option. We're the permanent solution for a few things like most companies will never be able to afford to bring in a full-fledged High-production media production team, right?

They're not gonna be able to do it. But we can always provide that most companies are never gonna be able to afford to have an in-house High production search engine optimization team. They just can't we can help them with that, right?

But there are certain things where it's like hey, I'm too busy. I can't manage my socials right now. I need some professional assistance. Sweet. We'll come in with a 12-month contract and then we'll off-board you when we're done.

So now you have everything and handle it. We do that all the time. Yeah. We need somebody to give us a website that functions at a high level and generates quality. Quality user experience and good like if it's e-commerce good.

High returns of our investment. Sweet we can come in and do that for you.

And then we'll hand it off to you and it's your property not only that but when you have a company that lives and breathes. That sector yes, they've got the so they got the life hacks of everything of how to do it easier smoother, right?

I had that experience myself. I was talking to someone I said, oh check this out what I found, you know with this website that does he goes. We've been doing that for eight months brother. Like you know, you're behind and I'm now I'm ahead of everyone else in my industry, right?

I'm behind by eight months in his industry because he goes yeah, we would have implemented that eight months ago for you. That's just because I live and breathe this so right I know I keep pressing on that but it's been a really learning experience over the last five or six years for me to go.

Let experts handle what they do and let them help you. That's why they're providing a service Necessarily have to do it yourself, but I'm in to kind of switch gears here. We're obviously at fight left feast.

What have been some some of your favorite moments here? We haven't even asked that yet on any of the interviews. So what's been your experience anything from Doug? Well, we know you're a Doug fan boy.

We see the selfies. All right, we saw I finally worked up the courage to talk to. Because I've been I take photos with like WWE guys Jake the snake and you know all that stuff and but yet Doug Wilson I was like, uh, it is funny how we have those couple guys like I'm not again, you know, I'm sure you're the same.

I'm not a guy that gets awestruck or anything like that. But there's a few and mine was James White because I grew up Yeah in my 20s reading his books and he really helped me through some Reformed stuff and then you meet him and you go you almost feel like you know him a little bit too.

But you know now we know that just names. By the way, you don't know me the key with James White to get him to you know, crack the ice with them. Yeah, call him Jimmy. Yeah. Oh sure. Yeah, my pastor's friends with them.

That's right, Jeff. My pastor's friends with them and calls him Jimmy all the time. Yeah. Well, it was nice because I went from kind of this guy who was far off to now after a few interviews and hanging out.

At conferences they emailed me and they said hey, would you do a couple minute video for his 40th anniversary of Alpha and Omega? So then I just did a five minute roast. I just roasted him on video and I was like boy.

Is this come full circle? I like it, you know, we should do that. There should be a Christian roast channel. Are you asked about favorite moments. I so Joe Rigney Had a his conversation on creation. He talked a little bit that back a few months ago at grace agenda so I heard like part one part two, but that is so the whole idea of God creates and then immediately like not with any delay is immediately handing over Dominion.