March 1, 2016 Show with Sean Ryan on “When Sodom Comes Home: The Breathtaking Insanity of Pro-homosexual, Totalitarian Government”

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Pro-Homosexual Totalitarian Government and the Mass Resistance Perspective

We are talking about when Sodom comes home, the breathtaking insanity of pro-homosexual totalitarian government and to discuss that with us today for the very first time on Iron Sharpens Iron is Sean Ryan who is Director of Community Relations for Mass Resistance and it's my honor and privilege to welcome you to Iron Sharpens Iron for the first time Sean Ryan.

Thank you it's great to be here. And in the studio with me co-hosting again on Iron Sharpens Iron is my friend the Reverend Buzz Taylor making a lot of noise as normal and if you could introduce yourself to our guest Sean Ryan.

Well hello it's good to have you on the show. Hi good to talk to you Buzz. Well before we even get into the subject when Sodom comes home the breathtaking insanity of pro-homosexual totalitarian government tell us something about the organization you represent as Director of Community Relations Mass Resistance.

So yes and I have been on your email list for as long as I think that you've been sending out.

Emails as an organization. And it is just absolutely amazing some of the things that the leftists in places of power especially in the more liberal states like Massachusetts the insane things that they are getting away with and the frightening things that they are getting away with as they take such a strong foothold in this country.

That is why there's no exaggeration when I titled this program the breathtaking insanity of pro-homosexual totalitarian government and I know that I will be trying to repeat this throughout the program at least several times but the website for mass resistance is massresistance .org massresistance .org.

And Sean there are a number of things that I know you'd like to bring up today that you would like to inform our listeners about and if they already know about these occurrences or footholds that the the left is gaining perhaps giving them an update on these things.

Tell us something about. First of all Dr. Church. Tell us. Give us an update on Dr. Church and.

Exactly the background of that story. Well church out against these different activist groups you go on about the national and speaking out he's saying as a health care institution we can't endorse these things.

This is in light of the fact that the hospital with the homosexual pride parade that they have every year in downtown Boston and if you're looking for this hardcoreized mentality sexual practices all those sorts of things the whole hook line and sinker of the sexual liberation movement so to speak and the best israel deacon and hospital had started to at that time and Dr. Church started speaking out and talking to people involved with these things you know emailing different people who were involved and in charge of these outreach or so-called efforts to the homosexuals and saying that we we can't endorse this as a as a hospital from a a medical health standpoint just all of the disease and risk factors that is endemic into the the lifestyle of most homosexuals saying we can't support this as a hospital.

So eventually his his messages made its way to the wrong people in the administration and they essentially started launching harassment claims at him. One of the people involved happened to be homosexual and since he felt offended that was enough grounds in his own mind for harassment.

Essentially uh even though that was not the case long time physician a very uh wonderful respectful guy and he anytime he speaks on on any topic anytime i've heard him speak and he's been speaking out more and more recently in the public sphere he's again in a very respect the gag order uh so not i mean they did try to chart little policy about um internal communications and digital communications but really it wasn't a part of that it was essentially for breaking this gag order that they put on him.

So this case is so horrible here you have a a doctor a urologist who specializes in these sorts of things who dealt with aspects of the AIDS crisis and whatnot obviously saw all these things dealt with all these things in patients has a a number of his own and saying look this you can't do this this you are harming people.

That is really obviously the opposite of the whole hippocratic mindset the hippocratic oath. You should not do harm when you are not telling people the full truth when you you are collaborating in this dangerous lifestyle you are doing.

He was fired for that he was essentially dismissed. This goes a number of his other and he has affiliations with a few hospitals in the area uh so they are also as well so it's from the area or that he wasn't going along letting this happen he wasn't going to be silently corroborating in this and so they've essentially tried to chase him out of the organization and blacklist him and it's just a really terrible case organization an organization that is meant to promote the health and well rid of someone who is doing exactly that as you termed it this whole totalitarian homosexual movement.

It's been a very awful case. We've had um protests and things outside the hospital summer after the school we talked to at these protests were very concerned for the doctor especially these were patients largely correct people but no very some of these very thoughtful students who were concerned medical truth i mean people who are studying this who are devoting who are starting to devote their lives to this.

They now see that threatened so it is a very it's very difficult to deal with but there there is progress moving um on these things there are development and we still have to uh dr church is still working thankfully very much and he's really taken this all in stride and i i think it shows the the man very deeply he is really genuinely handling this very well and you know he's come into this with the approach you know if he has to sacrifice well well you have this uh as i already repeated a.

Couple of times this sheer insanity where a doctor a physician is being fired because he is more concerned about the lives of individuals than he is over hurting their feelings. This is basically a scenario where it's becoming illegal to save someone's life if you hurt their feelings.

And of course this is only in regard it seems to homosexuals right. Yes um you're not going to see a doctor being fired for telling an overweight patient that his uh his weight is threatening his life.

You're not going to have a doctor fired for any other thing he may warn his patient about. That is life-threatening unless it is his homosexuality it is absolutely madness.

It is absolute madness. And so what is uh uh dr church doing today. Oh what is dr. Lights against the outside groups not affiliated with the hospital you know threatening to say oh you have to do this you have to do that.

I mean it is a complete top-down organization. I mean there is serious now. This is not unique to to massachusetts i presume. But i mean uh are you saying. The situation tends to be worse in massachusetts though.

Absolutely. If you're seeing regards to particularly secret by any means and the whole idea of what they it's not about. Quietly away. They've already started. Public federal level and state levels. They always.

Yeah this is uh it's it's just revolting um. And it's uh just like the psychiatric movement you know freudian psychology and jungian psychology and psychiatry um have never been a fan of biblical christianity.

But psychiatrists and psychologists until the 70s were practically in lockstep in in in uh believing that are in teaching that uh homosexual behavior was a disorder right. Uh. And even if christians themselves prefer to call it like it is sin and damnable wickedness they at least uh recognize recognize that it was a abnormal behavior.

And it was like practically overnight without even exaggerating that all of those uh critiques or assessments or labeling of homosexuality as anything detrimental or abnormal or wrong or or anything to do with psychiatric impairment mental disorder all that was removed from the psychiatric textbooks.

And uh you could very easily lose a medical practice as a psychiatrist or counseling practice as a psychologist um for for uh telling a patient that his homosexuality is abnormal and dangerous and i i think that.

Brings up an interesting point as well. You think about the practice of psychology and those sorts of things. And by a lot of people if you think about it that's sort of the more subject by the. You're not alone in that uh.

Objection to to object to objective. I've i've always sort of and uh just uh mass resistance i think about. Think about where they go and what they attack. That is really what they're after they've already like for them is to go after where that whole movement goes.

Yes yeah. I just heard a new uh description when i was watching the academy.

Awards. Uh some of my more conservative christian friends may disown me just for watching the academy but uh a new uh way and maybe it's not new i just hadn't heard it before but in but a different way than i have heard of describing a sex change operation.

Uh one of the women uh announcing a a film that was based on i believe one of the first sex change operations in history right. Uh she called it gender confirmation surgery. Yes yeah i uh yeah yeah i yeah i am um.

Sure of a chair that's scratching their heads. Someone simply felt offending harassed. Uh so again it's all transgender. I'm this. I'm that. It's like they they have to sort of lay out this whole schema before they even start.

You know talking about the day. Oh well these are my preferred pronouns. Like to refer. Not if you're hanging around the mass state house apparently. And they they lay out this whole complicated thing.

You know it's you. You almost wonder how much time they have left for an actual for an actual speech. And if you think about how terribly disordered and how bizarre it must be to that whole mindset i always refer in that way.

Except when they try to change their genders then they say they're not born that way. That's a good point. You know. You're you're born that way. Well i mean that's i mean how do you. I i mean i i i'm uncomfortable with something that's fairly well to change it.

In fact. Could you could you pick up right where you left.

Off when we return from the commercial break absolutely will do okay. And just don't forget we were talking about gender dysphoria and uh how we uh well not we but how people who are suffering from that are to overcome those things not actually mutilate their bodies.

But if you would like to join us on the air with a question for our guest shawn ryan. And if you tuned in late shawn ryan is the director of communications for mass resistance and previously shawn was a volunteer with americans for truth about homosexuality in naperville illinois and has been involved in the pro-family movement since since 2011.

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Away we'll be right back with shawn ryan of mass resistance. Paul wrote to the church at galatia for am i now seeking the approval of man or of god or am i trying to please man. If i were still trying to please man i would not be a servant of christ.

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You're going to want to pass down that website especially to everyone that you know and love in massachusetts. And today we are talking about when sodom comes home the breathtaking insanity of pro-homosexual totalitarian government.

And as sean had described it earlier massachusetts the state where he resides and which is the home of the organization mass resistance. Mass resistance since the play on words there massachusetts is like the canary in the coal mine and the rest of the country can see what is heading our way when it comes to the stronghold of the homosexual activist movement.

Uh. And it is certainly frightening uh if you have a uh an email if you have a question that you'd like to ask sean about this you can email us at chrisarnson at gmail .com. And before the break sean you were talking about gender dysphoria.

Right. Right. So i was. I was speaking before about.

This whole idea of discomfortable with your anatomical sense uh sex now normally when you have any sort of other the the emphasis really is to cope with whatever dysphoria is. But i mean that's bizarre and unmerciful these unfortunate things to completely flip the paradigm and say actually yes uh you should change and we can help.

You do it. That is. And it doesn't even adhere to the to the own logic within or the implied or whatever remaining logic in the the psychological community. It doesn't even adhere to that and and that's really what before what they call these gender confirmation surgeries or these gender transitions.

Only place where that lie. Yes and.

It has reached the insanity where uh you know there are some people who have disorders mental disorders where they look upon their limbs their own arms and legs as foreign uh appendages to their body and they they they will not be satisfied until those limbs are removed.

And there are people who have bizarre mental disorders where they desire to be blind and physically blind and that kind of a thing. There have been doctors who are giving in to that insanity. It just is absolutely amazing.

What uh the the the medical field and the psychiatric field is willing to do just to help cheer people up even if what they believe is going to cheer them up is absolutely insane grotesque barbaric and involves self-mutilation or mutilation i should say if somebody else is performing the surgery but absolutely insane.

We do have a listener in sharpsburg georgia. Lou. He has a comment and i'm going to tack a question onto it of my own. His comment is the new york mets announced their first lgbt night at shea stadium.

Well actually it's not shea stadium louis city field. Now uh this upcoming year. Uh now my question for you is uh anything going on like that with the red socks or the patriots. Oh you know. Or the bruins or.

The celtics or anybody else over there. They they have done done things that these folks on these teams came out and said oh yeah absolutely no we're we're totally in favor of that. Now professional you really anyone with really wouldn't even up there.

Now you have these uh these sports figures who are you know otherwise admired by a lot of people and a lot of young people and going out and saying oh yeah well you should totally support this. Why aren't you in fact.

And you know it it creates this whole illusion of some sort of rational majority. Uh that's really one part of it. Now we we talk about homosexual and transgender activists going after all of these different things in societies.

I mean that's just one of them. The cultural aspect. Um and within the cultural now you have all you lay in alienate people who would suddenly think oh well maybe we should think twice about speaking out against this.

You know everyone seems to be in support of it. Which is which is absolutely not the case at all whatsoever. Yeah that that's the relentless point. And that includes and especially places where there are going to be.

Lots of children like a sports arena a baseball stadium etc. Yeah absolutely so part of their.

Thing every things that have absolutely nothing to do with human sexuality. They're just going to to walk into and and try and score some sort of r even places where they know they or wanted they have to.

That's part of this strategy. Free facets. One example up here that we've we fought over just kind of. Yeah the hibernians right. The ancient one over hibernians. Don't they run that or is that.

Just new york that they run that uh i'm i'm not sure on the the the order. Well it's a very roman.

Catholic group. Whatever. Right right. Yeah. I mean if you're yeah if you're doing a uh an irish saint event boston they they recently you you have to wonder okay what does this even. And uh well i believe they've been doing the same thing in new york now or just recently within the last year or two.

And you you have to wonder okay what does this have to do with saint patrick. What. This has nothing to do with the catholic church of the church at large. Like what what is the the point of that. And if um if there's any anybody of a catholic persuader smalls the the date falls in the the middle of uh you know glen which is a a period of repentance.

So it's it's you're you're literally doing the opposite. But that's one of those things that they've inserted them probably going to take what i'm saying. There's no logic in their lifestyle. Yeah. It's just as let's let's see how far uh a group of christians.

Who had repented of and abandoned the homosexual lifestyle. Let's see how far they would get getting uh permission to march in the gay rights parade for instance if they have some kind of involvement with that community and they believe themselves to be a persecuted minority by the homosexual activists.

Uh you know why shouldn't they have some kind of a right to march if they so wanted to. I mean i doubt that they would but it's just to point out the absurdity of it. You know if they would never allow such a group to march with them why would a a uh a group running a parade that is predominantly run by roman catholics.

Um and that is uh an antithetical behavior to what they teach and believe. It's just absolutely absurd and buzz. You had a question. Well yes. I was wondering if there's any uh.

News. Uh uh good news from the resistance. Any success stories. Oh for right now at least up the reason they go after there is always a nation among the the citizens and among the some of the quite a few of these legislators as well who who realize this is a a problem.

And it it may possibly quite exactly uh fighting the establishment uh mostly a grassroots establishment. Um so that they're. Uh a lot of our material has actually tennessee right now over the years you know it's good to see we're going to go to a break right now if you'd like.

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So welcome back. This is chris arms and of iron sharpens iron if you've tuned in late. Our guest today for the entire two hours is shawn ryan director of communications for mass resistance dot org. Mass resistance dot org.

In studio with me is my co-host reverend buzz taylor. We are discussing when sodom comes home the breathtaking insanity of pro-homosexual totalitarian government. And if you'd like to join us on the air our email address is chris arnson at gmail .com.

Chris arnson at gmail .com. And before i go on to address some of the questions of a couple of our listeners i want you to continue a little bit with this absolutely insane laws giving freedom for cross-dressing men to enter into what were otherwise known as ladies rooms.

When you think you know the thing that's mind-boggling about this is that the leftist movement is largely fueled by feminists. And i cannot imagine how on earth this shows you how satan leaves human beings to absolutely insane behavior.

But i can't imagine why feminists would be happy about perv men. Uh wanting to gain access to a ladies room. So they just put on a dress. And you know uh those in the feminist movement have long described uh men.

Maybe sometimes men in general but but many men at least as nothing but um misogynist perverted uh individuals who demean and demoralize men. I mean women who demean and demoralize women and use them as sexual objects and all that kind of thing.

And yet how could this leftist agenda fueled by feminists want to gain gain access and give more opportunity for these perverted men to just go into bathrooms.

And leer at women and perhaps rape them. You made that legal because now imagine if that was legal and they're they're working on that in a number of states. In addition imagine if that is legal 2012 and this will more wildly probably around the country as well in the massachusetts sort of way because whatever right what you know all you have to say is well women dress that way not all.

Women wear makeup. Well i i could walk in there and say that i am in my true identity a female.

Cross-dresser. Yeah right. To wear men's clothes right. Exactly yeah yeah yeah you can say that.

I don't want to give anybody ideas here i'm just saying when he had the ludicrousness right.

And there was and as we as we speak in seattle roughly a week and a half two weeks ago right after a man go public recreational facility dressed as a man changes as a man and goes out and was was seen there again.

And when he was stopped by an employee he said well this is the law. Now i i can be here. And he wasn't apprehended by any other employees. He wasn't apprehended or confronted by police or anything else.

We don't really know what happened to this guy. Uh you know you know what's absolutely right under the law. That's exactly what he could do. And people say oh that won't happen it just happened. Laws as they stand i mean why would you even why would you even go through the trouble at that point to to do some sort of disguise or cross-dressing or anything like that.

I mean do you under under this law. I mean you're essentially making that person's plot easier. Uh and and and that's just the the really unfortunate exactly what we said was going to happen for these things.

And that's exactly what people are doing. And you know what i don't know what it will take really to to get. Especially as you you mentioned the the the feminist the supposedly pro-women right. I don't i don't know what it would what it would take if.

That doesn't i i have. Yeah i mean it's another way that the feminists reveal their their schizophrenia is whenever you have a husband or boyfriend murdering his wife or girlfriend who's pregnant and you would think that the feminists would want the worst possible uh sentence to be given to this despicable human being who did that.

But when the man is charged with double homicide if the woman is pregnant oh no you can't do that. That you can't charge him with double homicide because of course that uh fetus in the woman's belly wasn't really a human being so we don't want to give him that severe of a charge just knock it down to homicide not double homicide.

And when you think about how insane that is yeah and how in self-refuting that is it's just it's insane. That's why we call that's why we use that in the.

Program today. Right. I mean additionally to walk back the uh the transgender idea i mean what you know step outside and walk that back a little bit. I mean the idea. I mean this should be the around the world because basically when you talk about the transgender thing you basically say yes as a man you know what it is to be a woman.

I mean you have to think about by their standards and almost sexist that proposition is like oh i know i know exactly what it's like to be a woman. Well how do you. How do you know you. You feel you're a woman inside.

Oh well i i i just i just know. I mean that idea should be in incredibly insulting to to any woman you know. Especially with men who are just completely just physically different biologically different.

I mean just on every single aspect who who who will not menopause or bare shoulder. I mean just just think about that. I mean to say oh i know what it's like to be a woman because i'm actually one inside.

I mean that. I mean really that concept in and of itself should really just be be heavy. Yeah just like i think.

Didn't uh bruce jenner recently say some comment about uh the most difficult thing about being a picking out clothes and putting on makeup or something like that right. Yeah something absolutely insulting to women because he's not a woman right.

And he never will be a woman.

Right. And and additionally you you want to know why he has to put in so much effort is is because he was an olympic athlete. He is a male olympic athlete. Big. Right. He is a big very he's a very tall masculine man.

So he has to put in all all of the extra effort because he's trying to be precisely what he is not. So there's also that on on top of that. Yes.

And of course nobody even knows how to talk about history anymore. Who won those gold medals was it bruce jenner or caitlin. You know i mean give me a break huh. Uh. Yeah. I mean before we close the bathroom door on that subject.

Uh. Or have you uh exhausted that issue. Or should we move on to homosexuality in schools and school curriculums. Oh no no this is okay. Yeah let's talk about that. Uh the situation with homosexuality and the the stronghold they're getting in the movement is getting in schools and school curriculums in massachusetts right.

So for.

Starting in the school curriculums started in the early 90s now really what people want there is all these other as we we we call it for short glsen. So when it came they basically want our curriculum to reflect even though it was just even though it could really be true about it.

There was one teacher who was even quoted on on her son we want the world to be other stuff that has to say about that topic and she was absolutely the homosexual. No we're not there. There is no recruitment.

I mean this is exactly what it is when you're going after. They are going after of course and many of them will become involved. Styles personally yeah my son she was absolutely confused where you where he why he was asking.

And it was something that was explicitly mentioned in the in the song wearing mascara and you know of course he had to tell her well you know men don't don't wear that like oh well it says on the song people can and everything else and that's that's really what it is.

It is a brainwashing behind people's backs. And what's really telling about this is that none of the parents involved put forth this idea inform parents of courage. I would i would encourage everyone to to know what their states who are maybe a little bit younger integrated sexual i'm encouraged parents i'll look look into that to to know where they're.

This is where the the activists go. They say well we don't have to we're not obliged to tell you oh well homosexual marriage is a thing they're saying they're saying because it exists we not only have to tolerate it but you have to like these.

They were even trying to teach. I mean it's not even on a remote and uh you know in uh obviously in other states as well along along the years as soon as it became law this is what it is cultural or moral issues not to be with the homosexual lifestyle is wildly different norm than normal folks.