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All right. We have a ton of questions tonight We took questions through email, but but I also got some questions that came in through Twitter and YouTube So we're gonna jump right into the questions and we also try to interact with you through the comments as well

So we're gonna we're gonna quickly begin I'm gonna sip on some coffee while Jennifer reads

Actually, I'll read you the first question. The first question is for Jennifer and for those of you who don't know

Jennifer was a college softball pitcher She was a fast pitch softball player in high school went on to college she played for st

John's River Community College as a pitcher. She was on a scholarship and And she was always my number nine.

I always loved that I would go and watch her play and it was awesome. And so she's was asked the question on Twitter today

Will st. John's Community College Vikings win the Junior World Series in fast pitch again this year

Well, I Was very surprised when I went to Google this because when I played a hundred years ago when

I was in college We had a lot of L's loss but they this year are doing amazing and last year too,

I mean just It's a phenomenal. So Yes, we have a good chance have a good chance of winning

So so so there was a lot of L's in the columns when you were there but a lot of W's in the columns Well, you know what?

You know what? It's I'm just glad they're doing good. That's your that's your old school. So so good good on them

Alright. Well, I don't know a lot about softball other than the fact that I like to watch my wife play So we're gonna move on to some

Bible questions now I see a few questions coming in through the messages before we get to those before we get to the comments we got to start getting to some of these because we have

I think 11 or 15 something amount of questions tonight and Jennifer keeps track of the our timestamp so I can put the timestamps in later

And so go ahead and start with the first question the first Bible question for me,

Jennifer All right. I would love for you guys to do a video on the David Platt documentary and On YouTube you brought up the

David Platt documentary in church soup Was curious for more in -depth thoughts on the documentary and what you mean by churches trying to leave the

SBC First I'd heard of it and I want to hear a bit more about that trend. All right, very good

For those who don't know what this is referring to there was a documentary put out about McLean Bible Church in Washington, DC It's a two -part

Documentary it's been published on YouTube and we have discussed doing a follow -up to that Jennifer and I are actually working on that a lot of people have already done it

And so we don't want to just be doing what everybody else is doing So we're trying to find a way to to maybe come at it from a different angle

But that is something that we're working on if you're interested in that put it in the comments Let us know that you want us to do that.

That will be an encouragement for us to pursue that even further but the issue at the church was

Apparently there was an attempt to try to include McLean Bible Church in the SBC and there was a lot of Controversy around that and I made a joke on church soup.

I said with all the pastors trying to leave the SBC David Platt must be the only pastor in America who's getting in trouble for trying to get into the

SBC And that was just a joke I was just you know Just sort of hamming it up like I do on church soup all the time

But the question the person's asking is are there churches really leaving the SBC and why and the answer is yes the last few years several churches that I know personally and churches that I have heard of have been choosing to leave the

SBC because of some issues that were going on regarding the subjects of DEI stuff like that, which is the diversity equity and inclusion woke ism stuff like that that that was the argument

Even even further back critical race theory was an issue that had come up at one of the SBC's And and whether or not that was a right way to interpret social issues and a right framework to be teaching from and that had caused a lot of Consternation with people and pastors and teachers and a lot of people were going away from the

SBC because of that But there were also issues and allegations that were in regarding the leadership and I don't know enough about that to To really comment a lot and say who's right and who's wrong or things like that because we're not an

SBC Church I have made some videos about some things that happen at the SBC and if you want to go back and look up some of my videos where I talk about some of this you can

There were some things regarding the executive committee and some of the some of the things that they did I didn't make a video about that, but there are videos about that So if you want to look up why churches are leaving the

SBC I would encourage you to do that if you want to know more about it But but basically I was just making a joke on on on on Church Soup saying it seems like in my experience more people are leaving the

SBC but David Platt was getting in trouble because he was getting his church into the SBC and I just thought that was sort of ironic and a lot of times on the

A lot of times on Church Soup. I'm just being satirical and ironic and making jokes about that So that's why

I brought that up now Mary on the comments is asking some questions But it looks like okay.

I thought it had I thought it had to root I thought it had to do with the this thing, but actually they're they're having a conversation about The resurrection of the dead.

Okay I'm not going to get to that question yet because I have some other questions I need to get to but but we will try to to deal with some comment questions here

Very soon so But getting back to the the David Platt thing if you're interested in us diving deeper into what happened in the documentary whether we think the

Documentary was good or bad because I have some issues either way on that I think I think I think there's

I think there's a lot in that documentary that is Raises a lot of red flags and questions on both sides and so if you're interested in hearing more about that, let us know in the comments and Maybe we'll make a video about it.

If it's if it's worth if everybody thinks it's worth the time to do All right. Let's move on.

All right Okay, and the next question cut from YouTube. I'm a 41 year old man, but a young Christian My kids are 12 and 10 and it's really hard to become the

Christian leader of my family My wife has essentially struggled to do it all their lives She and our kids respect me, but I know it feels awkward for all of us at times

I struggle with reading the Bible because I go back and forth with reading broadly and quickly or slowly and deeply and it becomes

Overwhelming we are looking for a more biblical church to help disciple us all but in the meantime

Any advice for the men out there in a similar situation? This is actually a very common situation

Men are called to lead their families and they're called to be the biblical

Spiritual head of their home but that becomes very difficult when the the man is spiritually less mature than his wife and Perhaps he got saved later like with this man.

It seems like he hasn't been saved as long as his wife He said his wife has been doing these things for longer than him And so now he's wanting to fill that role that he is supposed to do biblically

But he's finding it hard to do and he's asking the question. What do

I do? and I will tell you what I have said to men in the past and this is

This is this may sound somewhat Not curt but but kind of like a like a like a quick response

But I say this to men often I say if your wife if your wife is more spiritually mature or if your wife knows more about the

Bible than you do There's a remedy for that start studying and I'm not I'm not joking, but I am that's kind of an off -the -cuff remark

I'm like, there's a way that there's a way to remember that start learning start growing but the

That that so that's you you know that so now your question is what do you do? First of all you asked in there about and I don't know if you read it.

Did you read where he said about? Reading deeply versus reading broadly. Yeah, okay

Because we talked about these questions beforehand When it comes to Reading the

Bible the reading the Bible is very important a daily Bible reading where you're digging into the word learning about the word is

Very important, but how you do that and what is effective for you as a learner is going to be different from one individual to another

I know some people who read through the whole Bible every year, which means you're reading three to four chapters a day and For some people that is so much reading that you're not going to be doing much retaining and That may not be the best for what you're trying to do right now as you're trying to grow in your

Understanding of the scripture and grow in your faith you are are are if you're trying to read three or four chapters a day and Imbibe all that information and learn to quantify and to contextualize all that information.

That's going to be very very difficult So I think what you need to do is you need to step back and you need to focus on what we would call is the meta narrative of scripture the meta narratives of scripture is is is what what we call the big story or the big idea of Scripture and the meta narrative of scripture breaks down into four main parts.

We we say creation fall redemption and restoration creation fall redemption and restoration

Understanding those four things and kind of understanding where each part of scripture falls in that in those categories

And what's happening throughout the scripture and then acquainting yourself with the major people in the scripture

I did a course I did a video series about family worship and You can go back and find it on the channel.

I talked about this I talked about learning the meta narrative of scripture then I talked about learning about the six main People in the scripture that you need to be most familiar with and the six main people are

Adam Noah Abraham Moses David and Jesus All of those people are in some way tied to a covenant with God and those that covenant

Progressively reveals who God is right? So you have Adam in the garden who's given a command not to do something and when he does he breaks that That breaks that command of God and brings all of man with him into that relationship of being in Rebellion against God and then you have

Noah who experiences the flood and after the flood there's a covenant made with Noah and then you have

Abraham who God chooses out of all of humanity to To go into a

Relationship with him and his family and out of that family all the nations of the world would be blessed

Paul says he got the gospel through that and then from there you move to the Moses who leads the nation out of bondage into the promised land and In doing so gives them the law and the law becomes the schoolmaster or the tutor

That points them to their sin and their need for Redeemer a Redeemer who is Christ and then that Redeemer is prefigured in the person of David who is who is who is brought into covenant with God a

Covenant is made and a promise is given to David that your kingdom will last forever How will his kingdom last forever because his son his greater son

Jesus Christ is gonna sit on his throne. And so So that's the that's that's the six main

People that God interacts with through covenant and and when you learn those that you you start seeing the bigger picture of Scripture and all

The little stories which there's nothing there's no story unimportant but all the smaller stories that surround those people begin to make more sense and and So that that's one thing is it's trying to look at the

Bible as a big picture and get the big picture in your mind And and there's some great series that you can do.

I know you want to say no, please please One thing that's helped us with family worship.

And I also I teach a Sunday school class like a youth Sunday school class is there's a Book it's called the ology by Marty Makowski believe it is and it's basically systematic theology

For kid well for kids, but I've learned from it, too I mean, it's great and it has a couple of pages

Each lesson is a few pages. I wish I wish I would have brought it in I could have shown you and it has scripture verses and it's great you're you're 10 and 12 year old can practice reading looking up the verses that go with each lesson and It's it's awesome.

Yeah, the the ology it's it's the Theology Oh L -o -g -y, so it's theology, but it's the ology or the ology

However, you however the author meant for the first sections are about God. Yeah, God is creator, you know created all things he he's

Yeah overall, I mean I can't it's a systematic theology for kids But it's great for adults too. And that was my next thing

Once you understand the metanarrative of scripture better Getting some type of systematic understanding of the scripture is helpful as well.

Starting with that book is good Jimbo the Kosti, I'm having trouble seeing Jimbo asked a link for the book.

Remind me write it down We'll put a link for theology and in the show notes for today also,

I want to recommend a different book if you are interested and it's and it's on audiobook and that is

R .C. Sproul's Everyone's a theologian Stud everyone's a theologian is a terrific book

It's I use it when I teach doctrine classes at the Academy at Sovereign Grace Academy It's accessible for just about every reading level

It's not hard to understand and he takes you through the major Under the major doctrines of scripture a little bit more deeply than you're gonna get with the theology

Theology is great to start with especially when you're doing with your kids I definitely think Jennifer's 100 % correct with that.

But if you're wanting to go deeper yourself I would recommend Everyone's a theologian so we can put both of those books in the show notes

There's other books as well. There's J .I. Packers Concise theology that's like a handbook when you're talking about theological principles, man

That that's a classic and it's been around forever. So a Catechism is a great tool

I did a lot of writing on catechism earlier this year Well only a couple months ago when I was writing for clear truth about the importance of catechism

So all of those would be helpful to you. But again, you're wanting to grow It's your responsibility to grow

Don't neglect the benefit of having a wife who does know more than you learn with her learn from her.

Just ask Keith, huh? Gotcha, babe So learn with her learn from her but seek to grow as best you can not to outdo her but because you are you want her to trust your leadership and to trust your leadership you've you got to grow and If you here's the thing

I know about men when men want to learn something a lot of times they can It's just a matter of the the desire

You know I know guys who who who hunt and they learn about hunting because they want to learn they want to become better hunters

Guys who know about cars they want to learn about cars So they do and they they spend their time watching

YouTube videos learning about cars doing those things And I say if you can do that with cars if you can do that with hunting if you can do that with your hobbies

What about the most important thing in your world and that the most important thing in your world is is is your

God and following After your God, why would you not invest the time in that? So definitely do that and Sheldon's right?

He said read scriptures together. I definitely agree with that Jennifer and I have a daily Bible reading that we do together

We use an app It's called you version that allows us to always know what we're reading and we both read the same thing every day currently

I am doing or together We're doing a New Testament reading that that brings us down to only one chapter a day rather than three or four chapters a day because Rather than trying to read the whole

Bible in a year, which we've done. We did that last year We read the whole Bible in a year this year We wanted to focus more in on just the

New Testament. And so we're doing one chapter a day and right now we're in Hebrews All right.

So let's move on to the the next question. Okay email back. I have a question about 80s movies

Like you I'm a hold on Score, this is this is this is not theology.

But this is right. This is my wheelhouse So we've talked softball. We talked softball.

Hey, hey, I'm gonna answer whatever questions y 'all send in man You want to know what my opinion is? I'm gonna give it to you

Okay, like you I'm a big fan growing up I caught a lot of movies on TV Most of the cussing was censored out with nudity

Every wait censored out along with They replaced the cussing wouldn't would nudity.

No, that's not what he's saying. He said they censored out all the bad stuff Yeah, yeah every now and then my wife it gives in and lets me show her an 80s movie

It seems like most of the time I have to apologize for the language in the movie I truly had no idea how bad some of the movies were when watched uncensored

How do you navigate the situation love the podcast keep up the good work, thank you.

Thank you Okay, so I love this question. I get this question a lot I actually have a video on my channel about this question

Remind me of that if you would put put a link say there's a link to a video about this because I said, you know

I love movies, but I hate bad language. So how do I navigate that and The answer very short go back and watch the video.

But the short answer is I watch edited movies I grew up watching edited movies most everything

I ever saw first time I ever saw a diehard I saw it on you know network television. It didn't have any bad words.

It didn't have any of the Gratuitous stuff. It was just the movie the story of John McClane saving the people in Nakatomi Plaza So I grew up thinking it was a fine movie

You watch it without the censoring and you find out that he didn't really say You know hippie by day

Ricky Martin You know that because that they would like replace it with something silly like he said, you know the bad thing and so And and yes diehard is a

Christmas movie too legit. I've done debates on that I debated Eric Jaeger last year and I won handsomely and if he hears this and disagrees he knows he knows

I'm right. So But diehard is a good example, right?

I joke about diehard watching it at Christmas My kids have seen diehard, but it's an edited version I purchase edited movies that are already pre -cut cuts out all the bad language cuts out all the bad all the bad

Scenes and it just leaves you with the movie. So that's it That is and you can do that through vid angel

You can also do that through a company that I buy movies from called and yes, this is the real name holy moly media dotnet and They're available you again go watch my video

I talked more about it. All right Okay What differences would you have with Ray Comfort's way of the masters way of doing evangelism as you have mentioned before that you have some?

Differences, that's a great question. And I have mentioned on the show because I have recommended

Ray Comfort's way of the master. I have I have said I Recommend him, but I do when

I teach his course. I teach some things slightly differently part of it has to do with Using the

Ten Commandments, I I certainly believe that the Ten Commandments are the summary of God's moral character but I Don't always reference the same commandments.

He does normally I keep it to the to the last half of the commandments, which are

Normally which they call the second table of the of the law which deal it deals with stealing lying and Lust or adultery and I focus on those and he does too but sometimes he'll go into a dolletry and adultery or he'll go into blasphemy and I don't normally go there even though I believe those are sins it's harder sometimes for people to understand those and understand their guilt for that if You know, so that's just one he'll often say have you ever have you ever used

God's name as a curse word and you know And he'll that's blasphemy. I don't think people understand that oftentimes

So it's just not one that I'll that I'll talk about people understand lust people understand lying people understand stealing

So it's that's one of the small things. That's such a minor thing But it is a little one that that I would do slightly different But the other one is

That because I'm a Calvinist there are things in evangelism that I don't say

I don't say to the unbeliever Jesus died for your sins Now that might offend you that I don't say that but I would challenge you to find me somewhere in scripture where that was the method that the event that the

Apostles used when they went out and shared the gospel that they went out and said Jesus died for your sins I believe in particular redemption which means

I believe Jesus died for the sins of those who trust in him or what we would call the elect and so That would be

That would simply be something a small Difference between me and and Ray but again

Fundamentally, we're very similar. So I don't have a problem teaching the way of the master and having people watch the way the master

I would just Slightly word a few things differently and when I said I'd do it slightly differently than him.

That's what I meant Fundamentally, it's basically the same if you in fact, I'm gonna be posting a video. I haven't

I haven't edited yet We went to the fair a couple weeks ago with brother Mike Collier which is one of our elders and we followed him around while he was sharing the the gospel and we were filming and it's just something we do every year at the fair and I'm gonna edit that film together and post it and you'll hear him doing that same thing

Sharing the gospel with people walking them through the law the fundamental thing that I believe

Ray gets right is that The law is what shows us our need for a

Savior. The law is what? Breaks our heart and the gospel heals us.

Yeah, the law is the schoolmaster that leads us leads us to Christ So so I agree 100 % with that We believe the law is necessary to use and we use it.

And so the difference is just just minor Very minor variations is all that's all

I meant when I said I do it slightly different The kids and I'll watch his videos usually like over lunch like we'll watch how

I love how bold he is and How many different types of people he encounters like usually on the beach or wherever?

I want to be like Ray Comfort and and and in in the way that he is so Much in love with engaging people with the gospel and he loves to see people come to Christ So, um, if I've never

I've never ever said anything about him negative Even if I say I would do it differently that's in no way calling into question his integrity or anything.

He is a Godly man and he's the type of man. I want to be when I grow up Okay, this is from Twitter What are your thoughts on Jesus is seated on the throne at the right hand of the

Father so he cannot be in your heart Okay We're going through these relatively quickly, but I want to stop and and and help make sure everybody understands

What the question that was just asked what the heart of the question is? Years ago

It was very common and it's still common today that people will say

The way you get saved is you ask Jesus into your heart? well a

Challenge to that became well, wait a minute Jesus doesn't come into your heart

The Holy Spirit comes into your heart and that became this thing where people say well

Jesus is at the right hand of the Father. It's the spirit that's in your heart Jesus said I must go away.

And if I go away, I will send to you another comforter, right? And so This this is this is where that this this is where the question arises from And there's even a deeper

Part of this because when we start talking about things like the Lord's Supper one of the issues

Calvin had with the doctrine of real presence or that the the bread and the cup become the

Physical body and blood of Christ is that Calvin argued that the body and blood of Christ are not

Omnipresent. He said the spirit of Christ is omnipresent, but not the body the body Christ is still corporeal

Christ is still man. He is still the God -man. He arose the God -man He rose glorified, but he's the

God -man and he is the God -man and he is present at the right hand of the Father in his physical form that's that's

Basic Christian Orthodoxy Christ is still the God -man. So the the argument goes from Calvin Christ is not in the bread in the cup because Christ physically is at the right hand of the

Father He's spiritually in the bread in the cup, but he's not physically because physically he's at the right hand of the

Father so this this issue of the physical nature of Christ and where is he physically in his physical

Humanity because he's he's he's truly God and truly man and will continue to be through throughout eternity

His his humanity is not omnipresent. This is the the argument.

So Who comes to live in your heart? Well, the Bible says the Spirit lives in your heart, but it also says that Christ is in you, right?

the Bible says Christ in you the hope of glory Right and and and it says the

Spirit of Christ is in you It says if the Spirit of Christ is not in you you do not belong to him Romans chapter 8

Which was just referenced by by Sheldon so The way that I think that needs to be

Understood is that when we're talking about the the the the essential nature of God his essence

That is undivided. That is not That is not separated and therefore we could say

God himself through the person of the Spirit lives within us and that is the

Spirit of Christ it's he is called the Spirit of Christ who lives within us and So we if somebody says

Jesus is in my heart. I don't think we should Automatically try to correct them because Paul said

Christ is in me, you know the life I now live I live By faith in the Son of God who gave himself for me who's who's in me, right

Christ is in me So so I don't think that is wrong to say but there is a there is a sense in which the

Holy Spirit is The indwelling person of the Trinity when we think of the

Trinity in terms of person the Trinity is God is one in essence and that essence is indivisible

But that essence is shared by three persons and those three persons are co -equal

Co -eternal and distinct and when we distinguish the three persons we begin to distinguish Economically the things that they do the father elects the son redeems the spirit regenerates and indwells the believer and so that's where this conversation gets important and While God cannot be separated he can be distinguished in regard to in regard to his works and I'm actually

I wrote a book called God in three persons and That book

I talked about this the fact that we just we distinguish between what we call the ontological

Trinity God in his nature his ontology and the Economic Trinity which is

God in his works the economics being the idea of God what God does who God is versus what

God does And he does these things Christ the Son Died on the cross.

There was a there was a heresy called patra passionism, which is the idea that the father died on the cross patra the pater from Latin the father and Passion the death on the cross.

So patra passionism is the idea that the father died on the cross and that was considered a heresy That's not what we believe.

We believe the son died on the cross So so there there are those are important distinctions that have to be made

But I wouldn't have a problem if somebody said Jesus came into my heart there's used to be a song when

Jesus came into my heart remember that I don't have a problem with that and and so that's a that's a

Little overview as to why that question was asked and and how I would answer it All right

Okay, next question Actually, can I can I answer a comment on on the on the comments s

Gomez says I think there are some verses that give me pause to limited atonement like first John 2 2 But there can still be unity despite the disagreement.

I would say Christ died for everyone. Well, thank you for sharing that and as a Calvinist I would certainly say first John 2 2 is one that we have to consider and and and wrestle with and I Have done a video on that if you're interested,

I guess, you know, I got a lot of videos on my channel But if put that in the link put the link the video about limited atonement.

I did a video Explaining our understanding of first John 2 2 even if you disagree might be helpful for you to go and watch and I'll put that link in the description, all right, and that's

Time to move on. Okay Okay, is it a sin not to fast

Matthew 6 16 implies that it's part of the norm of the Christian life and He mentions a health issue that keeps him from being able to fast

So does fasting necessarily need to be strict from food or what from what other types of fast fast would be permissible

All right okay, so the the question is is it a sin not to fast and He mentions as you said that there is a health issue that's keeping him from fasting

So let me answer the first question and then go into the second part of the question of the second part of the question He asked can you fast from other things?

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This is what happens when when the kids wake up And and are scared that happens.

We have we have six kids. So so hope everybody understands All right.

So where where was I? Where was I? Talking about the subject of Of Fasting thank you

Okay Let's see the

Bible says That when Jesus referred to fasting he said when you fast

He didn't say if you fast so there is an assumption that fasting is part of the

Christian life and For those who wonder yes, I do practice fasting in fact

It's something that I practice when I'm doing a baptism anytime. I baptize someone who wants to be baptized in our church

I encourage them to baptize one or two days prior to their baptism as Is written in the didache, which was one of the earliest extra biblical

Christian writings that we possess. And so I I I believe in fasting and I believe we should do it.

However if a person has a physical limitation Which this person who wrote this in does have a physical limitation if a person has a physical limitation and they cannot fast

I don't think it's a sin not to fast now that the next issue is well What if they don't have a physical limitation?

What if they just choose not to fast I would say well what if someone chose not to pray because prayer and fasting often go together in Scripture if a person

Absolutely neglected prayer and never prayed then I would say there's probably a sin issue involved

I'm not saying, you know, I'm gonna say Absolutely. This is you your sin is your lack of prayer but it but but wouldn't we say that there's a failure there wouldn't we say there is a at least a bare minimum a lack of Obedience, which of course is sin.

So Yes, I think a an absolute lack of fasting when there's no extemperating

Circum or an extenuating circumstances that would keep you from it I think it certainly can be sinful, especially if you know

God has called you to it and you choose Not to do it, but then the next question comes up Sheldon is asking a question

Thank you for throwing out a good question Sheldon. And that's the question of well, okay Well, how often do you have to fast and that's where my

I would say I the Bible doesn't command us how often if we look to the

Old Testament, we see there were days of fasting that were set aside throughout the year and Those those days were important to the people

I would say There's no command as to how often any more than there's a command how often to pray

We don't have a command on how often to pray, but we know when we're not doing it Right, and so we were not commanded how often to fast but Jesus said when you fast fast this way, right?

Like you're gonna do it. You should do it And when you do it do it this way, so I don't have an answer for the how often

I would say if you haven't fasted in the last year might be worth looking into and I'll go even further and say

If you've never fasted now might be the time to look at that situation and say why Why have

I never fasted have I not realized it's important or have I simply said, you know what? I just don't see the value in it

And I don't understand the purpose of it. Well, the Bible calls us to fast as as a way of disciplining ourselves, but also as a way of Setting aside something that we need to show our need of God even more

God's God is our greatest need and If we we know we need food and we go to get food every day

So if we take a day and we don't go to the food, but rather go to God instead It's an opportunity to feast on him and to be supplied by him rather than by the food and and so I would encourage you to ask yourself why you're not doing it and If it is a medical reason, this was the next part of the question

They said well, what if I have a medical reason for not fasting? Can I fast from something else? the

Bible doesn't really Talk about because I've heard people say well I'm gonna fast from video games or I'm gonna fast from movies or I'm gonna fast from some kind of enjoyment

You know, that's the whole Lent thing, right? I'm gonna give up something for a specific period of time. The Bible really doesn't

Say like There's other ways of fast at least if somebody can think of a scripture that I can't think of right now

And throw it in there The only thing I can think of is this story of Daniel where he fasted from certain types of foods

But there's a whole lot more to that than merely just not eating from the King's table

There was a lot that was going on in that situation that has to be considered so I would

I would say Daniel gives an example of fasting from certain types of foods, but there's more there than simply

Fasting that had to do with not coming under the influence of the

Chaldean Leaders they were trying to win them by changing their culture changing their language changing their names, right?

You know Hanani Mishael and Azariah. We don't know those names We know Shadrach Meshach and Abednego but Hanani Azariah and Mishael that was their real names

That was their names given to them. That was their Israelite names Shadrach Meshach and Abednego are all

Chaldean names and they're all connected to the Chaldean gods Abednego is servant of Nego which was one of their false gods and so when we when when we see that happening in Daniel, that's not just Fast that's a standing against a culture.

That's that's that's not falling into that culture. So So Daniel might not be the best example

But it is an example of somebody giving up something other than all food. They gave up certain types of food

So can you fast from something as a spiritual discipline other than food? I think it's possible not a lot in Scripture about it, but You can you know,

I think that anything you do to grow closer to God That's healthy and useful and pulls you away from the world and points you to the the one who truly gives you substance

Which is Christ is is good. And and so so I think that's helpful Somebody asked a question in channel

And the question is will you be doing a response video concerning the newly revealed info on the

Steve Lawson debacle? Um, I'm thinking about I'm seriously thinking about it

In fact, if y 'all want me to say something about it, send me a send me an email send me a message Leave a comment in this video

Here here's my limits one I Have I've been very careful about what

I've said about Steve I I have I've benefited a lot from Steve's ministry and Over the years have referenced

Steve a lot in my preaching and different things. So I I have felt personally very very much the the personal pain of this the day that it happened

I Remember I had gone to have lunch with a friend. My friend told me something terrible had happened in his life

And I come out of that situation. I call my wife I tell her what has happened to my friend and then she says did you hear about Steve?

Lawson I said no and she told me and I just wept and I came home I sat at my dinner table and I sat for three hours

I don't I'm not exaggerating when I say I sat for three hours just meditating on the entire situation my friend who had just had his

Life seriously injured by a terrible sin and then this man who I have studied under Respected and if you've ever seen my series, not only water which

I did on how to prepare sermons I referenced Steve a ton in that series my heart was broken and so I Sat for three hours thinking about that and my heart was really just Overwhelmed by the pain of that and and so I've I've been quiet about it.

I Referenced it in church soup satirically just but I but I really didn't reference Steve I said how sad it was and then

I talked about the Billy Graham rule But I am

I I'm willing to consider talking about the

Ecclesiological problem because I did write a book a biblically functioning church on Ecclesiology and what we what we found out this week about Steve situation is that there was a terribly unbiblical

Ecclesiology that he was he was under at that church and whoever decided that that was the best way for it to be

Was not thinking biblically, but they were thinking pragmatically one thing that Steve has preached against which is pragmatism

Is the very thing that was happening at that church? We got a guy who's huge name huge draw

We're gonna let him come in and do all the preaching but he's not gonna function as an elder He's not gonna function as a pastor.

He's not gonna smell like sheep Shepherds smell like sheep people. This is the thing if you don't know your people and you're not ministering to your people

You are not their shepherd see, I this is hard and I Don't want to get too emotional so I May just do a video on ecclesiology and And That's what

Mary just mentioned and and Mary. Thank you for being a good supporter of the show and always watching.

I appreciate it You know, so And stormy

I see what you're saying. I I may but not right now I'm not gonna go off on everything right now, but I but but talking about ecclesiology something

I'm willing to do I don't have a plan for a podcast next week. Maybe I'll make that the show I was thinking about doing the the

David Platt thing, but Maybe I'll maybe I'll do two two things. Maybe I'll do something different Okay, so sorry for sorry for the emotion a lot going on tonight

My wife had to leave because our kids or something happened. Apparently they're they're okay because she didn't come and tell me we had to stop and and and and so Lot going on.

Okay, so we got through the first page. Let's move on to the second page We got about but maybe 15 -20 minutes left and we'll close up So I think

I just muted the wrong mic. So if you heard a big cough, I apologize. I apologize

Okay question number eight comes from YouTube and It asked the question

What would you say to someone who says that we don't need to vote an election since God is sovereign?

It seems like this could be used as an excuse for other things as well How should a Christian address this and then

Twitter had a follow -up question What are some suggestions for ministering to congregants who are disappointed or frustrated with the election results while emphasizing

God's sovereignty and encouraging unity? All right So let me deal with the first question

What do you do with someone who says I'm not going to vote because God is sovereign? Well, that was my sermon last week.

So I'll link it in the show notes But let me just give you the the the simplified version

God is sovereign But God calls his people to go into his world and make change in his name

We are called to be salt and light. And so if somebody says I'm not going to vote because God is sovereign

That's not what we're called to do We're not called to divorce ourselves from the world and not engage simply because God is is working out all things according to his will

That is not what we're supposed to do We're supposed to be a part of it because God uses us as the means by which he brings about his will and and so That's no excuse now

There's all kinds of things you could talk about with voting There's a lot of issues that come into play when it comes to the question of who should we vote for and lesser of two

Evils and things like that. That's another question. But but if you're saying because God is sovereign, I don't need to vote

That's a misunderstanding of God's sovereignty. God's sovereignty does not mean we are not responsible.

We are responsible and So I Encourage you to understand

God has called you to go into his world to make change in his name and We're his people making change in his world in his name.

So Don't let God's sovereignty keep you from recognizing your call to be a part now the question of What about people who are

Disappointed about the election results Well, I know the brother who sent this in or at least

I saw his profile and I I Assume what he's talking about is

Maybe some people who are in states where the states voted for the abortion amendments like in the state of Florida We beat it by 3 % man.

We were so close It was it had to get 60 % For amendment 4 to pass it got 57 % and we were holding our breath because we were really concerned because the abortion amendment going into our

Constitution would have enshrined abortion up to Not only viability but with medical consent all the way up to birth

Throughout the state of Florida. It would have made it almost impossible to put any any state bans on on abortion at any at any at any point and so My My my heart is with those states that did put those

Allowances or those in trying abortion in their constitutions and I understand people whose hearts are broken over that God is working out his will even in this because There's there's a judgment that is coming and we are not going to stand on the bodies of 60 million aborted babies

Which is which is grow that number grows all the time Since since the 70s since Roe V Wade We're not going to stand on the bodies of 60 million aborted babies and not have something to answer for We as a nation need to be on our face

We need to be on our face and repentance and we're not many people are spitting in the face of God God is sovereign and he will not be mocked.

So If I had people in my church who were concerned about that who were disappointed in the election results

I would understand but I would also go to them and I would say, you know What it's time for sackcloth and ashes.

It's time for prayer. It's time for fasting It's time to pray that God would

That God would bring repentance to this nation He did it in Innova he can do it here and That's the only hope for us.

The hope for America is not Donald Trump. The hope for America is repentance and faith in Jesus Christ I'm thankful that Donald Trump is in the is is the incumbent president

Because I think he is better than the alternative but he's not the Savior and That is just a fact

That the only thing that's going to save this nation is not who's in the White House But it's going to be a turning from sin and turning to Christ and repentance and until that happens

We we should expect to see nothing but the Romans one Devolution of our nation.

I preached a sermon years ago called the Romans one Or seem

I call it the Romans road of national Depravity and it's basically starting at Romans 1 18

Going all the way down to verse 32 I think it is showing this is what happens when a nation first it gives up Who God is and then you see

God turning them over to a debased mind and what do we see one after another after another after another the things that happen and and we can just we can follow that through our nation and so We pray we pray that God would turn us from that.

We pray that God would save us from that So That's my that's my answer pray pray with your people

Comfort them. I would hope that no one in your Congregation the person who sent this in I would hope that no one is sad that Kamala is not in the

White House Maybe there is somebody in your church that feels that way and maybe they need to Maybe they need to be

Counseled as to why they think that way why they think she would have been better than him Hopefully they're not supporting abortion and you know trans and kids and things like that.

Hopefully they're not doing that but That's something that you would need to have a conversation with your person with your people about Okay Okay Let's let's see.

Yeah Too legit says Russell Moore and David French most affected. You know what?

I'm glad they're disappointed and shame on them because those guys You know

It's it's one thing you know when David French posted That he was that you know, we're gonna vote for Kamala this time.

I'm like, dude It's one thing to say you're not gonna vote for Trump but when you're gonna vote for that when you're gonna vote for Marxism when you're gonna vote for abortion on demand when you're gonna vote for that and Call yourself a man of God.

How dare you sir? How dare you? I'm no

Was it Ray Ortlund that posted that I'm sorry, I thought it was David French forgive me forgive me. Thank you to legit

Apologize for the mistake That is a willing to correct myself the person who posted that was a pastor and I Say shame on that person

All right Number nine and we're at 57 57 51 it's hard to do without my bride missing her

Could you go over the biblical justification for the regulative principle of worship? Sure Oh It goes on to say

I cannot see it explicitly taught in Holy Scripture, and I'm wondering if I'm missing something. Thanks Yes, thank you for asking this question

Gives me an opportunity to mention my friend's book my friend Matthew Everhart just wrote a book.

I wrote a review and a recommendation for it The book is called worship attainment and he describes and outlines the regulative principle

The regulative principle simply says that we are not to do anything in worship that is not commanded in Holy Scripture and that has to be understood by Saying well people say well the

Bible doesn't say there's air conditioner in Scripture The Bible doesn't say these things those things are not commanded. So what about that?

The those are what we call elements of worship rather than Or circumstances of worship not elements of worship.

And so we talked about that I interviewed Matthew Everhart about this subject two weeks ago three weeks ago

So if you want to find that show and and look up me talking to Matthew Everhart about his book worship attainment we talk about the regulative principle, but typically where people go to To to get the regulative principle is passages like Leviticus 11

Or Leviticus 10 or Nadab and Abihu offered up a fire before the Lord that the that the

Lord had not Commanded them to do and they say okay Those guys suffered before God because they did something that God did not command them to do

And so typically if you ask somebody for scriptural reference, there's that now I have some friends who who are who are not regulative principle guys who would say that's a misuse of that passage

But when you're asking me for a passage, that's typically the one people will will reference and Stormy threw out this question.

That's different than the normative principle. Yes, the normative principle Is the regular principle says you can only do what is commanded the normative principle says you can do anything that's not forbidden and worship and Most people

Fall somewhere and on a spectrum with that right because when you walk through you say well, is this truly commanded right?

And then you have to debate what's commanded. I Like to talk about this subject and and say okay

What what should we be doing in worship? well we should be doing the things in worship that that the scripture describes for us whether it is by explicit command or if it is by what we would call an inference a necessary inference from scripture and so If you look at the elements of worship the elements of worship would be the reading of scripture prayer the explanation of scripture the singing of psalms hymns and spiritual songs the

The participation in the Lord's Supper the participation in baptism, even though you might not baptize every week in some churches don't have the

Lord's Supper every week, but these are elements of worship and So the question is does the

Bible prescribe for us other elements? So for instance, let's talk about Dancing and worship the

Bible doesn't prescribe dancing But it does describe dancing David danced before the

Lord And so this becomes an issue is that a proper element of worship and this is where the debate comes in but I do think there is wisdom in saying that What we do in worship should be the things

God wants us to do Not just the things we want to do and this is where I would tend to fall on the side of the regulative principle

I don't think we should be doing the things that just we want to do but rather we should be seeking to do the things that God wants

God has God has a way that he wants to be worshipped. I did it.

I did a very short video Long time ago got a lot of hits and it was me talking to myself

I was doing the two characters talking to themselves and I said that the one character said, I'm I'm gonna worship

God my way and The other person said well, you should really want to worship God his way and I hold that I think that's true.

We should want to worship God his way and that's basically the regulative principle Are there other parts of it?

Can people become? regulative principle to the point to where they almost become

Unwilling to consider anything that isn't in their sphere of understanding Yes, and that's where I think it can be negative.

But ultimately I think we should want to worship God his way So that's what the regular principle is

Okay You guys got time for a couple more questions. Let's see. We'll see if you're willing to hang out with me

We're sitting around the same amount of people we've had the whole time. So nobody's running away just yet. We're at an hour mark

These last couple questions are real good. So let's see how see how well we go. We're at 103 now.

Okay Person who writes says I'm a reformed

Baptist. I love your videos. They've been a huge blessing in my life My question to you is about justification and wondering about your views of how how works

Fit into our salvation. I've been seeing this debate within reformed circles Of our works necessary to be finally saved or are they entirely unnecessary?

Are they the basis for entering heaven or are they only evidence that proves true faith? Which will allow us to enter heaven follow -up question

How do you interpret the judgment passages in the Bible where the where God judges believers by their works?

Thank you for your time. My anxiety has been heavy on this issue

All right Terrific question very important question and When we talk about this the the theological question is

It relates to something called final justification Recently some very well -known

Theologians who would fall into the reformed esque side Have have addressed this issue on Final justification.

Okay in the final analysis Do our works contribute to our righteous standing before God?

My answer is no Even though I think it's

I think John Piper has recently mentioned something about works contributing to our final justification Willing to be wrong about that though.

I think it was Piper who said it I could be wrong And again, I'm not trying to throw him under the bus I'm just saying somebody as notable as him has has reference works as part of our final justification.

I don't believe so Because I believe that justification is forensic and it is declarative meaning our justification is something that God declares us based upon the righteousness of another and That other is

Jesus Christ Paul says I am found having a righteousness not of my own that comes from the law But a righteousness which comes through faith in Jesus Christ We are declared righteous by grace through faith alone and not of works.

Our works are the fruit of justification

They are not the cause of Justification this is my understanding.

This is the this is my understanding of what the Reformers taught as well and so if somebody wants to say well

This this there's this reformer over here who taught this or there's others. Okay, but but this is the heart of Sola Fide I taught this

I talked about this recently. I was on the clear truth podcast With Jamie Bamberg and I said the key to understanding justification is

That justification is a forensic declaration of God. It is not something that we

Earn or add to by our works, but it is something that we are declared by God because of the work of Christ So how do our works play into this and why does the

Bible say we are judged according to our works? Okay, so James chapter 2 clearly teaches that our works

Demonstrate the quality of our faith and those who have no works have a dead faith

And James says can that faith save? Meaning can that type of faith or the type of faith that does not produce works.

Can that faith save and the answer from James is

The in the negative that he doesn't say no But he asks the question in the rhetorical way in which no is the proper answer.

Can that faith save the answers? No James White in his book the God who justifies has a wonderful chapter on James chapter 2 explaining

What James chapter 2 teaches about living faith versus dead faith.

So it's my recommendation that you would definitely read especially that chapter but Further Why then does it say that people are judged according to their works?

Well if we go into passages like First Corinthians 3 where Paul talks about building on a foundation

He says there's a foundation that foundation is Christ And he says some men build with wood hay and precious or wood hay and stubble some build with gold silver precious stones

But both are saved right? He's talking about the quality of their works

He says some men's works are burned up some men's works endure. What causes them to endure?

Well, there are works that have eternal value. There's works that don't but ultimately, they're still saved because they have the foundation in Christ and That is why

I would say our works do not contribute to our justification however It has been understood

By many that there are degrees of reward in heaven

And this is why some people believe when when Jesus is referring to being judged by our works when some are being talked about being judged

By our works that this is referring to reward I Don't I haven't fleshed that out completely

I'm not sure how I understand the reward and how the reward works and and those things

I've heard that I've heard the Analogy and I'd like I'd like it The analogy is well the reward of of our works is is the crowns that we will receive and Paul talks about different crowns you know that are laid for us in heaven and when we receive these crowns and then at the final that the final day we

Will take those crowns off of our head and we'll lay them at the feet of Christ. And and so that is

That's a picture of Of our works right that we lay before the Father or lay before the the feet of Christ I'm not certain that I'm a hundred percent there, but but I think that sounds very good.

I've heard. Dr. Sproul talk about things like that About how he believes our rewards are somehow tied to the judgment of our works.

I Think that's a fair analysis. I'm just not sure what that's gonna look like and You know,

I've heard people say well this you know, this person is gonna have a better heaven or whatever I don't I don't I don't know that that's really what's what the idea is here

But we are you know, when we when we go to heaven we're not in the final State we're not in Some ethereal plane where we're sitting on a cloud, you know playing a harp

We're actually in a new heaven in a new earth and the new earth is going to have

Responsibilities it's going to have a new world to to To work and Dominion over and and have that Dominion over that Adam was supposed to have in the garden and he forfeited through the fall

Perhaps the the benefit of our works is the benefit of he who is you know, he who is shows himself

Faithful here. We'll have you know Responsibility there again. This is all just an idea.

I'm just giving a thought and so Those are just some thoughts working through that question of the the question of Do our works contribute to salvation?

No, but we're still going to be judged according to our works, but it will not contribute to our justification So that brings a final answer to that question

I still think we will be judged for our works because the Bible says so how that plays out in accordance with our reward

I don't have a great answer for yet. I'm still working that out in my heart So that I hope is helpful, okay

Two more quick ones and I will make these quick We're at 111 now. Somebody asked a question.

I've been struggling not to become a hyper Calvinist It says I've recently become more or less a Calvinist But with all the evil in the world and clearly many not willing to repent

I end up leaning towards hyper Calvinism I know I'm a sinner myself and cannot judge But it's how I feel your opinion would be a big help on this don't become a hyper

Calvinist. That's my opinion. That's easy enough What is a hyper Calvinist the hyper Calvinist is a person who believes that because God is sovereign and because God ultimately does choose

Our destiny is regarding heaven and hell things like that because of that that we are to simply not

Engage at all in this world and that we are to have that we're not to see ourselves as responsible

In fact, I'll give you I'll give you a good analogy. I used to I used to use a graphic I don't

I don't have a way to draw this right now and really show it good but It said that the difference between the

Arminian and that or the the Arminian the hyper Calvinist had the same problem There are many and believes that because man is responsible

God is not fully sovereign Meaning man gets to choose his destiny The hyper

Calvinist says because God is sovereign man's not really responsible So it's it's two errors and and and what what the

Bible teaches is is two Complementary truths God is completely sovereign man is still responsible and you have to hold those two truths together and I remember it's

Tom Askell who mentioned that he says he said if you teach that God is anything less than sovereign and you teach that Man is anything less than responsible then you have erred in one direction or the other and so going into hyper

Calvinism is The problem now Christian just asked a good question. What does sovereign mean sovereign means that God is

Actually in control of all things the the Westminster Confession says that God has decreed from eternity pass all things that come to pass and but but it goes on to say this is not doing violence to the will of creature or It is not leaving out the participation of secondary causes and so God is in control

But God is working out his will through the choices of men. And so we call that Compatibilism men are doing the things that they want to do.

But God is still bringing about his will and that's the that is the the balance there of understanding those two things so Stormy Stormy had a good

I like this. Okay Joseph held his brothers responsible for what they did but understood

God was intimately involved the entire time and It's Genesis 50 20 is what what Stormy is referencing

What you meant for evil God meant for good same verb what you did God did

But you did it with an evil motive. God did it with a pure and righteous motive and that's the balance

Understanding the balance of those two things All right And Last email question and then

I'm going to get to a comment that somebody just mentioned about Abraham's bosom 114 is where we are.

Okay. So the last question on here is a question about the Sabbath and this is how it begins it says

I remember you saying something one time about the 1689 confession that you didn't hold to it and You didn't teach what it taught about the

Sabbath, but I can't remember what it was the Baptist Church that I'm attending is teaching the

Sabbath and teaching it as eternal moral law and it concerns me for the emphasis that is placed on keeping the

Sabbath and I know it's the fourth commandment. But how is it moral? Can you help me?

There's more to the question But I'm trying to make it succinct Okay So my position on the

Sabbath is relatively simple But if you want the longer more expressed

Understanding go and find my debate. In fact, I will link the debate in the description I debated

Rob Hamm in 2018 on the subject the Sabbath and I explained very clearly what my position is on the

Sabbath and Here it is I believe the Sabbath was given to Israel as a sign of the covenant that God made with Israel at Sinai This is what the scripture teaches

It says that the Sabbath was given to Israel as a sign of the covenant given through Moses And that covenant that was given through Moses pointed forward to the covenant that is coming in Christ We call the new covenant.

The Sabbath points to the rest that we have in Christ That is what the

Sabbath was intended to do point us toward the rest that we have in Christ This is how I interpret

Hebrews chapter 4 Which tells us that there is a Sabbath that awaits or that that exists for all who believe in him

This is the Sabbath and this is what the Sabbath is now. I didn't quote that very well so before anybody hits me in the comments, oh you didn't quote that right

I Understand I could go and open my Bible and read it to you and explain what I'm saying.

But ultimately There is a Sabbath that remains with people of God I think that's the exact quote but the

Sabbath is not a day right now. The Sabbath is a person According to Colossians chapter 2 there were things that were shadows

That find their substance in Christ and one of those things is the Sabbath according to Colossians 2 the

Sabbath finds its substance in Christ Christ is The Sabbath Christ is our rest we rest in him from our works now

I still believe that we have a Lord's Day a day that we gather together a day that we

Cease from our normal things that we do and we come together and we worship God together on that day

But I don't believe that it's the Sabbath any more than I believe that the Lord's Supper is the

Passover The Passover pointed forward to something greater Which was the

Lord's Supper the Sabbath pointed forward to the the death of Christ, which is were memorialized in the Lord's Supper The Sabbath pointed forward to the

Lord's Day This is why we no longer have the Sabbath on Saturday but we worship on the day

Christ rose from the dead and so I do believe that there is To be among the people of God that day where we gather together for worship

But I don't believe that it is a Christian Sabbath I believe there's enough of a distinguish enough enough to distinguish the

Sabbath from the Lord's Day And if you want to look it up, you can look up DA Carson's book from the

Sabbath to the Lord's Day It's a very good book on this subject that will help you understand how those distinctions lie

So if you're interested in that subject look up my debate look up the book from DA Carson Or you can send me a specific question.

If you have a specific question that you'd like me to address on a future episode All right

There's been a lot of questions tonight in the comments and I'm gonna I'm gonna close up But the question was about what happens when we die

I think Mary was asking this question way early on and I want to go back because I didn't mean to just not

Deal with it, but I had I knew I had all these questions here But since since we still got the same amount of people watching

Nobody's leaving yet. I'll I'm gonna do this I'm gonna try to get back to her question because Mary you're so faithful to watch and I appreciate you

So I want to try to deal with your question. Okay Let's see, let's see if I can find it.

Okay, you said where we at It was about Okay, here it is

If believers die and their spirit goes to be with Jesus Where do the unbelievers spirits go hell now or later?

Okay, this is a great question. And I want to tell you that my answer is going to be

Based a lot on how I understand Luke chapter 16

Luke chapter 16 is the story of Lazarus and the rich man Now some people believe that is a parable and I understand why they would come to that conclusion but I am of the mind that it wasn't necessarily a parable, but rather it's actually a

Description of something that happened. It's the only time Jesus in a parable uses a proper name.

He calls the man Lazarus He says Lazarus sat Outside the rich man's house and he was poor and he was just wanted to have crumbs that fell from the rich man's table the rich man supped supped

Sumptuously every day feasted sumptuously every day and It tells us some things it says when the rich man died

Or excuse me when that when the poor man died who represented the believer represented the faithful person when he died He was carried by the angels to Abraham's bosom

So wherever Abraham was is where he was But the poor man or the rich man it says when he died he closed his eyes and he opened them in Hades He opened them in torment

So it was an immediate thing Abraham's bosom is also called paradise

This is this was the understanding that when believers die

There would be a place of comfort and when unbelievers or the reprobate or the the evil die there would be a place of torment and There were those who believed it was only separated by one hands width the hands breadth

But Jesus said no, it's separated by a great chasm that no man can pass. So he describes it

He says this it's such a wide chasm that even though there was Interaction between the two the rich man could speak to Lazarus and ask him to dip his finger and put it on his tongue

That they could not pass that chasm So, is this a description of the way it truly is or is this simply a description of Is this simply a description of something

Jesus is making up or using a current understanding of his time I think that prior to the cross

I Think that's what the way it was Now some people will disagree with me some scholars will disagree me some pastors will disagree me

But I actually think that's what it was. I think prior to the cross I think those who were of faith would would go to where Abraham was a place of paradise and When unbelievers died they went to a place of torment.

It's not the final lake of fire, but it is a place of Intermediate existence we call that the intermediate state

Now I also believe that when Christ died on the cross that he received those who were in paradise to himself and they are now with him and So I think there was a change in condition after the cross.

This is the this is sometimes called the compartment theory that she all was a compartment that there was a compartment called paradise and compartment called a place of torment or hot ace or Hades or whatever you want to call it, but Hades and she'll basically are synonymous.

So this this whole thing would have been she'll or the place of the dead and The idea is when

Christ died on the cross He took those people in paradise with him and they are now with him

Awaiting the final resurrection of their bodies where they will be received back into their bodies

And they will be with the they will be entering the new heaven and the new earth or if you're a pre -millennialist

They'll be going into the Millennium threw that in there, but That is

That is that's how I understand that. So what does that look like now?

Well Now I believe if a person dies unsaved they are in a place of torment until they're they they are

Resurrected at the final judgment and and poured into the lake of fire. That's what it says in Revelation it says that that that death and Hades gave up their dead and Those were poured into the lake of fire.

So that's That's that Believers are with the

Lord now, I believe so so that's my answer to that question.

I hope that's helpful Mary That's there's more I could get into certainly about that But that's the simplified version.

I There are those who believe in something called psychopoenic. Yeah Psychopoenic.

Yeah is that is is also known as by its simpler title soul sleep

Soul sleep is the idea is when you die you're asleep until the resurrection You're you're awake and you either go to heaven or go to hell then

I Don't believe that that was that's believed by a lot of people That's that that those people believe there's no intermediate state.

There's no state between death and resurrection it's just a state of Non -consciousness or soul sleep.

I don't believe that is true I believe there's enough in the scriptures to indicate there's life between this life and the life to come.

It's not It's not purgatory. That's not what I'm teaching. I'm teaching an intermediate state.

I believe in the intermediate state and I can show several passages. I have in fact, I have a sermon that I did

Teaching through 2nd Corinthians where I believe Paul clearly identifies the intermediate state. I don't see how you can come to any other conclusion.

So If you want I can link the intermediate state Sermon boy,

I'm gonna have a lot of show notes tonight, but that that is a Those who believe in psychopoenic.

Yeah soul sleep also Normally not always but they also normally believe in something called conditional mortality

Conditional mortality is the belief that not everybody is going to live forever

But that only believers live forever and unbelievers stay dead

They die they stay dead Here's here's my thought behind that if you believe that if you believe in conditional mortality

Then you agree with the atheists because the atheist says when I die nothing's gonna happen Well, if that's conditional mortality, that means they don't believe they're gonna die.

Nothing's gonna happen. They're right But they're not right They're going to die and they're going to be in a place of torment until the final judgment where they're going to be poured into The lake of fire now some people believe in annihilation that that means they're going to be annihilated.

I don't believe that I believe in the torment lasts forever. I believe in something called ECT eternal conscious torment but either way

Whether you believe in annihilation or not, you still believe something happens after death You're going to be judged you're going to face judgment and you're going to be annihilated the person who says they die

They go away. Nothing happens them. Then you're agreeing with the atheist. So That's that's I I can't go there.

I can't believe in and Conditional mortality so Boy, that was a lot boy.

I had an emotional time tonight kids Interrupted the show because we had they had a moment.

My wife had to leave That's why I'm sitting next to an empty chair if anybody's tuning in now and wondering why I'm sitting next to an empty chair

I started with my wife, but the kids had an emergency and my wife had to leave so Sad about that, but I hope this was helpful

All right Good question. I'll end with this if the in the intermediate state since you since you won't have your new body

Will you be able to sense anything? Yes I based that on Several passages, but specifically the passage

I would say is Revelation chapter 5 When it said those who are under the throne the souls of those who are under the throne

We're speaking to the Lord and they were saying how long a Lord until you will judge our

Those who those who persecuted us so not I know one thing they can at least they know how they died

They know they were the martyrs. They know how they died and they're experiencing space and time

They're under the altar. They're able to interact with the Lord now.

Can they feel in touch? I don't know, but I don't see why a spirit couldn't Angels or spirits and they are able to do those things

So I don't see why in the intermediate state there wouldn't be an ability to sense they can sense at least space and time

They know where they used to be. They know where there are now They know where they are in relation to the Lord. They're under the throne. So all of those things

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Doug Wilson of Harbor Freight. Thank you, John Bell If you didn't see it, I got to be on stage this shows you how far a joke can go

I got to be on stage with Doug Wilson at the fight left feast Conference last week. That's why

I didn't do fight I didn't do Friday night or Saturday Friday night live last week because I was at the fight left feast conference got to walk up On stage with him pretend to be him for a few seconds and it was a lot of fun so hopefully you'll

You saw that short video and if you didn't go watch it on the channel. All right I want to thank you guys for being with me tonight.

Thank you for being a part of the show We are now at one minute and 30 or one hour and 30 minutes Sheldon asked did

I enjoy Texas? I did. I want to tell you something though And this is the well, maybe I'll not say this.

I'll get in trouble. I didn't like the food as much I don't think I ate it any I don't think I really I didn't you know, everybody talks about how great the food is in,

Texas I just don't think I ate at the right places. I was only there for two days though So I think that you know, and I like food so I was surprised because I expected more

I guess I expected something that I didn't that I didn't really enjoy. So Went to one really authentic Mexican place, but it just was

I just couldn't I didn't know how to order. I didn't know what I wanted I ended up gets just getting tacos and they were kind of simple.

I Just it wasn't you know, so Yeah, anyway didn't have sweet tea at the restaurant

I went to what kind of place didn't have sweet tea Oh, well, doesn't matter. All right. Thank you guys Really enjoyed the conference stormy.

You asked me how I enjoyed the conference really enjoyed it thankful for all the guys who have me on their podcast and for Greg Moore as always for letting me use his podcast studio to Interview Doug Wilson and Dusty Devers.

If you haven't seen that go watch that video Thanks again guys for a great Friday night and we will see you next week.