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- Father in heaven What a blessing it is to look to your word to see what it says about salvation full and free and about how you?
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- pardon sin in Christ Jesus Lord would you bless our time as we?
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- seek to understand what you have presented in your word about salvation about ability about inability and And Other aspects of salvation
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- Lord bless each one here. We pray in Jesus name. Amen Well, we're talking about Free will and then we were talking about in ability total in ability.
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- What does it mean that someone is? Totally enable unable to believe what does that mean?
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- Yes, I see that hand, but isn't there some ability to believe?
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- Don't isn't there, you know some people I remember I had a Calvinistic friend who used to say used to talk about an island of righteousness that each person possesses to preserve free will is the idea and so people really struggle to to do that and and we talked last week about the idea that If God commands something in Scripture, does it necessarily mean we can do it?
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- You remember that idea Anybody can you do everything that Scripture commands you to do?
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- No, why not the classic example, right?
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- Jesus says be ye therefore perfect even as although be ye. What is that? That must be the
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- King James. I Just slipped into my youth there
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- Be perfect even as your father in heaven is perfect But can we do that can somebody perfectly obey the law
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- And the answer is no if somebody could perfectly do that other than the Lord Jesus Christ Then he wouldn't have come to or he wouldn't have needed to come to earth and we talked about not substituting our own reasoning for Scripture and that's what
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- Unsafe people people often do they say well if God commands something that I must be able to do it or They you know pick and choose what they want to believe
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- I think I've given the example before about how people maybe I have or maybe I haven't But people will tell me or used to tell me back in the day when
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- I wasn't a pastor They'd say well, I don't believe in election And I'd say well, do you believe in the
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- Bible? Yes, I believe in the Bible. Well, then you believe in election. No, I don't well
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- Yes, you do and let me just show you some places where it talks about that it you believe Scripture, don't you? Yes, well,
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- I just don't okay. Well you believe in it. You just have to figure out what it means Those are two different things
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- But God commands for example something that we're told we must do and we can't do God commands repentance and Yet it is a gift.
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- We cannot do it on our own. No unsaved person can choose to repent And that's just about where we left off last week
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- I'm believers are physically spiritually incapable of obeying but they
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- Because they do not have the spiritual capacity to obey and we talked about total inability being a moral issue
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- Expecting an unbeliever to obey or to keep the laws like expecting. This is Waldron's idea.
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- He says Expecting an unbeliever to keep all the laws like expecting someone who hates you to do a favor for you
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- I'm like, okay. He hates you so he cannot and It's true, right that unbelievers hate
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- God. So Why would they do what he says and the answer is they wouldn't but they not only would they wouldn't but they can't
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- Responsibility does not imply ability Responsibility does not imply ability and we use the example of a drunk driver as Responsible to keep the laws of the road to keep his vehicle between the little white lines
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- The fact that he's responsible to do that doesn't mean that he can Okay, so This idea of total inability it seems kind of Inconsistent with the way we view life for example
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- Isn't it true And we know it's true because pastor Mike says it isn't it true that unbelievers can have good marriages.
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- Yeah, they can Isn't it true that unbelievers can lead outwardly moral lives
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- Outwardly. Yes, isn't it true that Unconverted people can do righteous things
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- Yes Walter says unconverted men may do acts of civil righteousness, but they cannot perform acts of spiritual righteousness
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- The unregenerate do not and cannot please God We don't need to go to Hebrews 11 6
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- But let's let's just for terms of review because I think this is such a key passage
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- Let's look at Romans 3 verses 10 to 12 Romans 3 verses 10 to 12 When you take somebody down, you know the veritable
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- Romans Road This is a passage that you have to go to because people view themselves as what if you talk the average
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- Unsafe person do they view themselves as good or bad and why do they view themselves as good?
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- Okay, they're not Hitler and and you know what here was my mindset as an unsaved person I remember going to the you know, the the 12 -step meeting and I I knew that there was a
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- God I knew that I didn't know God but I'm sitting there and I'm thinking well, I know there has to be a
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- God because someone in this universe
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- Has to impose justice on really bad people not me.
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- No, no, no, but really bad people I mean, I may not be really good, but really bad people and I knew a lot of really bad people
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- So With that said Romans 3 verses 10 to 12. Okay, if nobody will raise their hand
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- I'll just start dunking people in the back. Go ahead Carolyn Applebee. No one does good
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- No, not one. Well that You know, we don't like to in in general here watch this in general.
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- We don't like to make general statements These sweeping broad generalizations, right?
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- So when somebody says No one does good You know at first you just kind of take a step back from that because you're like I don't know if I like that.
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- No one does good Well, what does that mean? Let's interpret that in the original
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- Greek Harry can you help me out? No one does good
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- No, not one nobody We have a problem with that though.
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- You know it look as Unsafe people we have a problem with that and then even a lot of safe people think well
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- People do good and they because they muddle the fact that outwardly people do some good
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- With the truth that from the heart they're not doing good. They're doing good because it salves their conscience or because It's the right thing to do, you know kind of in a conscience sort of way, but they're not doing it ultimately to please
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- God Listen what Waldron says he says total depravity does not mean that men are as bad as they can possibly be or that they are
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- Hitler or that they are demons or that they are Stalin or Mao or Paul Potts or Kim Jong -un or whatever they're not as bad as they could be it means that they are as bad off as they can be
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- Unable by nature to do anything to save themselves or listen prepare themselves for salvation you know when it seems like somebody is
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- I'll sometimes hear somebody say that they're being drawn by the Lord. We'll talk about drawing here. Maybe later on this morning.
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- Maybe next week But it seems like somebody's being drawn. Well, you'll know when somebody's being drawn because they will be drawn
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- When it seems like somebody wants to know more well, maybe they do But they're not doing it on their own.
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- It would be the Holy Spirit at work in them They're unable to prepare themselves for salvation because they are dead in their sins and trespasses
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- Pastor Mike likes to go across the street to the graveyard to have the guys preach when they do the preaching lab to preach the
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- Dead people there you could go to the morgue and try to preach to those people and the picture is this
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- That when we give the gospel of people we are giving it to spiritually dead people We don't know what
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- God will do with that. But that's what we're doing. I mean, I was talking to a Jehovah Witness it in the Denver Airport and then on the way home.
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- It was just me and the driver and you know Jen and I were talking about it on the way in this morning because I I just started talking to him and you know
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- How do you get to the gospel? Well when you have an hour from the airport, you know home
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- And that's five o 'clock in the morning. It's just you and him. It's pretty easy Sooner or later. It's going to come up, you know, where are you from?
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- You know, what do you do? and it just kind of I Was you know, he says well, you know,
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- I was raised Catholic that okay. Great. Let's just talk about that. So It's easy if you if that's your intention it's easy to get there.
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- Okay now Waldron says that the gospel and this truth of total depravity seems inconsistent with the practical needs of the
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- Sinner and it seems like it would produce hopelessness and despair Then he says properly understood total depravity and total inability do not produce despair the notion of helplessness and despair
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- Presuppose that are some willingness to be saved. In other words. He's saying When we when we think about somebody being unwilling to believe we think well, wait a minute
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- Does that give us any kind of opportunity to really present the gospel to them? You know, what if they're really want to hear it?
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- Well, if they want to hear it, it's only because God is going first Total inability that means that no one is or can be willing until God works in them
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- God has to change their receiver as it were and in fact, he says
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- For the unbeliever the person that you're evangelizing He says despair of our own resources is in fact the necessary preparation for the gospel.
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- What does he mean by that? You're talking to an unbeliever and the unbeliever is feeling hopeless
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- They're despairing of their own ability to save themselves. Is that good or bad?
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- You know you want to you want to say oh, I'm sorry you feel that way about yourself You need a better self -image. Let me boost you.
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- You're actually much better than you think you are No It's If you think about your own life when you came to Christ, were you like feeling good about yourself?
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- Thinking that you were on the path to heaven and then somebody came along and told you about Jesus and you thought you know what?
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- Yeah, I do kind of need to shift into a higher gear I do really need to step on the accelerator and be better despairing of our own resources
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- Coming to the recognition that we are empty that we have nothing that there's nothing we can do in and of ourselves that's exactly what a
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- Person needs to get to in order to be saved they have to despair themselves. In fact, he says
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- Waldron says human sufficiency is the hindrance if you think you are good enough if you believe that you can
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- Help yourself if you believe in self -help Then what do you need the gospel for? What do you need the truth for it is only when we despair of our helplessness that we can see
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- God begin his work the doctrine of inability
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- Produces or will produce urgency not indifference in any sinner who cares
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- Once they recognize that they have nothing to offer God that they have no capacity to please him
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- That's when God will save them or when he can save them.
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- Let's see Total inability people argue. Well, then that is inconsistent with the sincerity of God this idea that the gospel offer is
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- Not sincere if somebody can't receive it. In other words is God sincerely offering salvation to all mankind everywhere if No one can
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- Come to Christ apart from his work. Is this sincere offer of the gospel? When we go to somebody and we preach the gospel to them, even though we know that they are in a
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- Incapable of believing apart from a work of the Holy Spirit. Is that offer valid? It's a yes or no question, but it's a very
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- Intimidating question, isn't it? Why is it intimidating? Because if you answer wrongly a trapdoor will open before you below your chair
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- And you will instantly be sucked into the concrete slab. That is a spilling. Listen. What why is that intimidating?
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- Harry, okay
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- Says they can't believe then. How can God hold them? culpable guilty of not believing right so ultimately what what people object to is and they we try to build like a
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- Protective box around God to protect him from any kind of accusation, right that it's unfair
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- Okay, and now is the gospel offer legitimate
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- When we present it to God, even though they're incapable we know that the
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- Bible teaches that God offers mercy indiscriminately to sinful men However, who is going to believe
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- Because they're incapable of believing right? So do we have a contradiction?
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- The fact that God offers mercy to all men and that all men are
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- Unwilling to come is that a contradiction? Oh all these tough.
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- Yes or no, you know I've maybe I should just give true or false questions, you know and let you turn them in and an anonymously
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- So that nobody be like I'm not gonna answer that question. Is it true that God commands all men to believe?
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- Is it true That no one is willing to believe Okay, so God commands all men to believe no one is willing to believe.
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- I Think we're doing good now. So why is it that some believe and some don't?
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- Why is it that you're sitting here today and other people are lazy and sluggardly and Probably at Starbucks coming to service later on.
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- Oh, sorry. Sorry. You are the elect and I appreciate that. That's Gary Thank You Gary, thank you pastor
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- Gary the Holy Spirit does a supernatural work in some people to make them willing
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- Now is that fair? Think about that one carefully before you raise your hand.
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- Is it fair? I hear no I hear yes.
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- Oh There's a special trapdoor for you. Mr. Anthony. I'll hear the
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- I'll hear the no answer first Okay, Cory Being the hardcore
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- Hard -hearted person that he is Says that fair is that all men would refuse to believe and would be consigned to hell
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- Now, is there anybody who wants to defend the yes answer the
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- Supreme Court? Finds in your favor Some people believe even though we're all incapable of believing some believe why because Before the foundation of the world the
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- Father chose them, right and then during or in time the
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- Holy Spirit Causes them to be born again the Father draws them all these and we're about to talk about effectual calling anyway, but God's decree is that some will be saved but he commands all people everywhere to be saved
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- So we have his decree versus his Preceptive will we know what God has commanded?
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- But we do not know his will we know that he commands all men everywhere to repent But we don't know who is going to repent, right?
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- Why is that? Why don't we know he didn't tell us and we're not
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- God You know, this is a Deuteronomy 2929 a legitimate application the secret things belong to the
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- Lord our God His plan is not revealed to us. His commands are revealed to us, but his plan is not revealed to us
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- Other comments or questions before we move. Yeah, Gary That's right one man plants and other waters
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- And we don't know we don't know who that is. We indiscriminately preach the gospel and then the Lord grants the results
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- And Okay, let's move on to effectual calling Effectual calling which is chapter 10 for those of you are keeping track of the
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- London Baptist Confession of Faith of 1689 and First Waldron kind of skips to ten point three and so I'm gonna skip and then we'll work our way back
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- But he first talks about the pressing problem of infants dying in infancy Why would this be a problem?
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- Why is it a problem? Okay, Kira good answer because we consider them innocent right, but are they
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- No, and He he develops this a little bit.
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- He says well first Let me read what the Confession of Faith says about it says elect infants dying in infancy are regenerated and saved
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- By Christ through the Spirit who worketh when and where and how he pleases
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- So also are all elect persons who are incapable of being outwardly called by the ministry of the word
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- He notes that the phrase elect infant die elect infants dying in infancy is quite indefinite elect infants
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- Do we know who the elect infants are and who the non elect infants are? Do we know whom
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- God has chosen for salvation and whom he hasn't and the answer is no, right? But Jesus when he's talking to Nicodemus in John 3 8 says not you must be born again, but what else does he say to Nicodemus?
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- he compares the Holy Spirit to the wind and he says
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- What? Okay, nobody knows where it comes from where it goes to and such it is with the
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- Holy Spirit And anyway, so many read John 3 8 so we can get it right Cory Okay, so it is with everyone who is born of the
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- Spirit so The Holy Spirit if we were to summarize it this way This would be
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- I think fair if anybody wants to object raise your hand. The Holy Spirit is sovereign.
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- He sovereignly chooses to regenerate to cause to be born again whom he wills right and so he is able to regenerate infants
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- But who are the elect doesn't really say and people here's what Some have done including
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- John MacArthur. They look at David's statement in 2nd Samuel 12 23 and They use that to say that David believed his child would go to heaven that he would join him there
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- The situation is met if you recall that When Nathan confronts David over his sin with Bathsheba, she's pregnant and Nathan tells him that that baby is going to die as a result of the sin of David and if you recall that David spends a good deal of time fasting and praying because he doesn't he's hoping the
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- Lord will relent and When the baby dies, he says what he worships the
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- Lord and he said, you know, but his servants are like, you know What's up with you?
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- And he says well, I this is my paraphrase, but he says, you know, I You know,
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- I he can't be with me or he's not he's not coming back but Yeah, but I'll go to him.
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- In other words where he is to heaven that is an inference and it doesn't hear
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- Here's the here's the rub. The Bible doesn't address this issue directly
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- It gives us implications and I and I think and here Waldron is going to kind of Generally speaking joined together with with MacArthur.
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- He says There are three great truths that provide us with knowledge to guide or as my typist.
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- It was me Guild That's that's that's just bad. I can't even stand that This is the problem with you know, turning to one side and typing
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- See Provide us with knowledge to guide and comfort us in this matter
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- So three things that Waldron wants us to consider as we think about elect infants or those even older people adults without the mental capacity to To believe the
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- Word of God to to comprehend it And he says and number one the character of God should give us comfort in this matter
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- What about God would give us comfort when we think about babies dying in infancy? He'll do what's right.
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- I mean I for me that goes that's straight up to number one, right? We can trust the Lord to do what's right other thoughts will his mercy.
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- I mean, isn't that a great comfort when we just think okay, I Consider all the sins that I've committed and God is merciful and gracious to forgive me.
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- I Can trust him to do what's right, and I can also trust him to be merciful and finally,
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- I think his Sovereignty Waldron Walden says that this way says we know that nothing will prevent him from doing what he pleases and If it pleases him to save these elect babies, then he will
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- And Secondly our knowledge of the guilt and sinful condition of infants and he says their guilt is real
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- How do we know their guilt is real? Babies are guilty
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- Gary Okay, Adam is as much their federal head as ours.
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- There are several you know Verses where David talks about in sin, you know,
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- I was conceived etc. There are other places I mean Ephesians 2 1 2 3 also covers babies right
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- Dead and their sins and trespasses Now, why does that give us?
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- Comfort well, maybe not so much. It gives us a guide though We know that they still have to be what what has to happen to babies for them to go to heaven
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- They need salvation. They must be born again in his third
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- Guidestone here is our knowledge of the purpose of God. We know that God's general purposes of mercy
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- Toward his children must include and listen this I think this is important Temporal and even spiritual benefits for their children
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- It is not wrong to deduce that God so loves his children as to frequently embrace their children in his saving purposes
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- Now does that mean the children of the non saved, you know are not elect and I I don't think so I think you know, there's something else that I think
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- Waldron doesn't address and I think maybe MacArthur does in his book Yeah safe in the arms of God and That's this if there are going to be and there are going to be
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- People from every nation tribe kindred and tongue in heaven. Sometimes we think well there are
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- Entire people groups where the Bible hasn't even been translated into their language yet I think the number of people groups are shrinking all the time if pastor
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- Bob were here this morning. We'd know but All that said
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- You know, how could this be? Well, I think one of the ways it could definitely be is that these infants
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- Will be in heaven And it really seems I mean this is just personal opinion
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- Buttress somewhat by scripture, but I really think it's in keeping with the character and nature of God to save these little ones and You know, sometimes
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- I think Even though this is Hebrews 11 language where it talks about the
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- Hall of Faith, you know people of whom this world was not worthy I think sometimes these infants God has just spared them all this sin
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- Misery and just taking them straight into his presence thoughts or questions about babies
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- Yeah, what is that age, you know? Dan Asked, you know does not apply to a certain age the age of accountability, right?
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- I Mean the way is scripture most often. Is there anything called the the age of accountability in scripture?
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- There's language similar to it, but there's nothing like the age of accountability And you know some people have a fixed age the
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- Mormons teach that it's age eight at age eight magically everybody not magically But you know for whatever reason at age eight everybody's able to make a choice and you know before that it doesn't count
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- There is languages similar to that. I think it's in Jonah were
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- The Ninevites right and he's Told to go there and everything and what does the
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- Lord say to him? You know people who don't know they're Right right hand from their left hand talking about children, right?
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- In other words, they don't even have the sense to know what the right hand of their left hand is. So there's some sense of Knowing right and wrong and understanding the consequences and all these things.
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- So I don't know what that age is You know, I've had people tell me that they were saved at age four.
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- I've had you know, all kinds of things Said and Who knows?
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- I mean, this is this is up to the Lord. But what is the age of accountability? I don't know and I don't think there is a fixed age
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- But certainly there is an age at which It would seem to me that There's more accountability because there's more awareness of right and wrong
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- Okay So now to talk about effectual calling scriptural support for the doctrine of effectual calling
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- True or false You can be saved other than elect babies You can be saved
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- Apart from the Word of God You can be saved with you know an adult
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- In Australia the Outback somewhere can be saved without ever hearing the scripture
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- True false. Okay. I'll hear from the true Kim How's that true? Okay, and how how would you how would somebody have heard of Jesus apart from Scripture?
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- I I think it's Yes, but I was very clear In excluding them from this question, but I think
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- You know the idea John 3 16 whosoever believes, you know, the question is can you believe apart from?
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- Scripture and let's look at Romans 10 for a moment. Let's start in verse 9
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- Because if you confess with your mouth Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead you will be saved
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- For with the heart one believes and is justified and with the mouth one confesses and is saved
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- For the scripture says everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek for the same
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- Lord is Lord of all Bestowing his riches on all who call on him for everyone who calls on the name of the
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- Lord will be saved true absolutely true verse 14 How then will they call on him in whom they have not believed and how are they to believe in him of?
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- whom they have never heard and how are they to hear without someone preaching and how are they to preach unless they are sent as It is written.
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- How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the good news? But they have not all obeyed the gospel for Isaiah says who has believed what he has heard from us.
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- So faith comes from hearing and hearing through the word of Christ And I so I think it is important that someone hear or Read the scripture
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- I Think it would be difficult to understand who Jesus is apart from one of those two things happening right
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- I mean we can look at Hebrews 412 where it talks about the the Word of God is living an act of sharper than two edges sword
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- These these kind of things again and again, we would see that our knowledge of Christ has to be built on Scripture You know, could you hear?
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- Perhaps a sermon, you know and get saved Absolutely, but I think that sermon would have to be built upon the the
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- Word of God and the truths of Scripture Yeah, yes
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- Harry, yeah, I I think there there is no, you know No indication that we would get anywhere in Scripture Other than people need to hear
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- The word they need to hear preaching about Jesus, but it needs to be based on Scripture even
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- Jesus, you know when he was talking about the Bible said that the whole Bible talked about him
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- And so this is this is how we learn about who he is Okay, well, let's
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- Let's define a few terms here Anybody know what the difference besides Harry and maybe meta and my wife?
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- Scott some of you Dr. Pradeep some of you older and smarter people. What's the difference between the effectual call and the general call?
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- What is the general call? John 3 16 kind of thing, right?
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- Whosoever, you know, we we it is an indiscriminate Preaching of the gospel.
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- It's the sowing of seed as Will was saying earlier, right? Matthew 22 14
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- Which is Many are called but few are chosen the idea being that there's a general call a
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- Sounding fourth of the trumpet as it were of the gospel But not everybody is going to respond to that and the reason is they're not going to respond to is because they're not chosen
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- They're not elect remember listening to somebody once say He read through all
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- Matthew 22 And then he got to verse 14. He said for many are called but few are chosen
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- He said a better way to understand that is many are called but few will accept Well, that's a way to that's a way to look at it.
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- But if we look at it in context, it's very much a Sovereign saying send it, you know send out going to the streets of the byways and everything and bring these people in Many are called but few will
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- Respond. No, many are called but few are chosen few are elected by God Let's look at First Corinthians 1 verses 22 to 24 and if somebody would read that please first Corinthians 1
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- Verses 22 to 24. Yeah will okay. So what does this tell us about?
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- The effectual call the general call any of that, I mean I should go back to true or false format
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- Sorry making myself laugh I'm going to the pastor Mike mode when he says Jews demand signs and Greeks seek wisdom.
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- Yeah, it's a the gospel is a hindrance to some people. Why is that? In other words you can give the general call right and some people just reject it because it's not what they want
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- The Jews want signs The Greeks they want miraculous signs the
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- Greeks seek, you know a higher lofty wisdom
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- And all we have is the gospel Jesus Christ and him crucified right, but it is a stumbling block to Jews they don't want to hear about somebody who hung on a tree because that's shameful and it's folly to Gentiles because The Greeks would say well, this is not wisdom.
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- In fact, they would also look at it and say the natural that the body that Jesus had basically disqualifies them from being higher and lofty and Because they they were all of the mindset that the spiritual was the higher realm
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- But look at verse 24 again But to those who are called both Jews and Greeks Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God in other words
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- For the elect when they hear it the non elect The general call goes out the non elect say that's folly.
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- That's stupid. That's sophistry The elect are cut to the heart
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- They hear it in for the elect They say that's the power of God and the wisdom of God It's not a stumbling block for me.
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- I don't need a sign. I don't need other wisdom. This is it This is the power of God and the wisdom of God In other words, the called are not all who hear the gospel, but the effectually called but those who are saved by it
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- Now we're gonna get into ordo salutis territory, which means of course The order of salvation, of course, of course, it means that the effectual call true or false the effectual call is prior to any human response
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- Okay Let's look at 2nd
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- Thessalonians chapter 2 verses 13 14, it's
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- That's true.
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- By the way 2nd Thessalonians 2 verses 13 and 14 who has that they so good right the gospel goes out and people are
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- Transformed but the effectual call that is to say the work of the Holy Spirit comes before Human response and how do we know that because unless they were born again, they could not respond, right?
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- All the things that we've talked about before still apply So total inability means total inability unless God so works
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- Unless the Holy Spirit so works to regenerate they won't come Let's look at Romans 8 and we'll close here
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- Romans 8 verses 29 to 30 and this is known as the golden chain of the golden chain of Salvation thank you.
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- I'm working hard. Okay Who would read Romans 8 29 to 30?
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- Thank you, Chris now If you look at this wise is called why do you think it's called the golden chain of salvation?
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- All the necessary links of our salvation are here, right The foreknowledge of God that he and by the way, that doesn't mean any for new events.
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- He always foreknows people So before the world began before we were created before we are anything
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- God set his love upon us that's what it means to foreknow something and Then he predestined us.
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- He elected us. He chose us to be conformed to the image of his Son Why so that we would be among the firstborn among many brothers, but listen
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- He predestined and then he also called so before the world began he predestined us he elected us he chose us and Then in time he called us and then look it says
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- When you're called you are Justified and when you are justified
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- You are glorified now. It's interesting because we don't think of ourselves as glorified, but in a sense we already are why?
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- How can I say that? I'm glorified? Other than in complete vanity, thank you very much.
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- How can I say that? I'm glorified Okay, because I'm in the image of Jesus Christ Christ righteousness has been imputed to me.
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- Yes New creature. I'm looking for something
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- See I put it in the present tense, but it really isn't Yes, Joni Okay, because God predestined it to happen which is true
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- Gary Yes, it will happen because God said it right this is the the idea is that and it is in past tense
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- But it's so certain Glorification is so certain that it's talked about in the past tense
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- God does these things and it's not like you know Let's put it this way Is there is there anybody who is saved who won't get to heaven?
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- Is there anybody who's justified who won't get to heaven? What would it mean if you could be justified and then not get to heaven?
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- God would not be very just because he would be punishing you for sins They'd already put on his son, but it would also mean that you probably become
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- Roman Catholic And I'm being serious because if you bifurcate
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- That means a separate Justification from glorification in other words if you say that when
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- The righteousness of Christ is imputed to you, right? Then somehow you have to maintain that righteousness or you have to obtain more
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- Righteousness in order to get to heaven then really what you've done is adopted kind of the Roman Catholic system of works
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- You know by salvation you get on the right path But then it's up to you to finish the job and if that's the case we're all in trouble
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- What did Jesus say, you know You talking about being in the in in His hands or in the hands of the father and he says no one is able to what?
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- Take them out of my father's hand and another point. He says take them out of my hand What we have here is in Romans 8 29 and 30 and other places in the scripture we have clear evidence of the sovereignty of God and salvation that he elects
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- He draws he regenerates. I guess we could say he saves he keeps he preserves and Then he glorifies he raises them up on the last day right as he would say in John 6 and this is this is the point
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- Now Waldron says it is true that regeneration is prior to faith But is only and we'll have to develop this more next week.
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- It is true that regeneration is prior to faith, but it is only causally Prior and the adult person who is regenerated always exercises faith
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- We're gonna have to talk about what causally is and all these kind of things, but we'll talk about that next week Let's go some prayer.
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- We're over father Thank you for your word. Thank you for the clear picture
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- It gives us of our salvation and how we are secure not because We're smarter.