Noah's Flood Evidence Talk (Dr. Biddle, Genesis Apologetics)

So, I'm going to be covering a lot of technical stuff tonight. We're going to cover some geology, some paleontology, some scripture, some theology, and if you have any questions for me, again, because we're going to cover a lot of this stuff just right over the top, just please do email me at dan at genesisapologetics .com,

or you can hit the staff email that's in the book. We'll talk about this book later, but this is our book that talks about Noah's Flood.

It's going to be a companion guide that goes along with our movie on Noah's Flood. It's going to hit the theaters in about a year and a half, and they're all free for you on the back counter there, so please grab your free book on the way out.

We've actually already had like four or five people say that they picked it up on Sunday and they've already read the whole thing, so I don't know.

I'm a slow reader. It would take me much longer than that. One guy said he burned through it in two hours, so it's a two -hour homework assignment for you, if you'd like.

Okay, so a little bit about our ministry. Again, I've been part of the collective Bayside community here. I'm currently over at Bayside Blue Oaks and love it over there, and I see some

Blue Oaks hands, which is wonderful. Our ministry is called

Genesis Apologetics, and it was actually birthed right here in this room. I came to a talk about eight years ago in Club 56 by the guy who's currently the vice president of our ministry, a guy named

Dave Bisbee, and he gave a talk on dinosaurs that I came to as quite a skeptic.

I've been a Christian since I was 11. I kind of fell away until I was about 17 years old, but I've been trying to walk with the

Lord ever since. And I've considered myself a self -studied theologian, an apologist, love the apologetics, love theology, and love science, and I came to a talk that Dave gave about dinosaurs as a skeptic because I knew some of the things that he was going to say.

And he so shocked me during that talk that it took about 90 days, it took three months, and really delved into what he talked about.

I bought every book I could get my hands on about dinosaurs and geology and the fossil record. I did research up in Montana, I did research up in Canada, and about halfway through that process

I realized that Genesis is a true history book, and it's plainly written, it's a regular narrative so that anybody in any culture can understand it.

And I'm going to try to go over a lot of the research that convinced me tonight, but I also just need to say by way of disclaimer that I am a young earth creationist.

Our ministry teaches from a Genesis as real history narrative, and not all

Christians are coming from that orientation. When we speak at different Christian schools, most of the schools do teach from that orientation, that the six days are normal days and earth is just thousands of years ago, and that's my platform, that's the position that we teach from.

But I have all kinds of Christian brothers and sisters that have different viewpoints. We have friends that are framework theory and day age and progressive creations and older creations,

I have theistic evolution friends. We're all on a faith journey as we go through with the

Lord as our guide, and of course Scripture is our guide, and sometimes we're on the same journey with respect to our perspectives on Genesis and we're still developing that, and other times we believe totally opposite than what the position

I'm going to teach from tonight. So my encouragement, if you have a different perspective than what I'm going to be sharing from tonight, is that I love you, the

Lord loves you, and this church loves you. So we're going to be coming at it from a position that I believe honors

Scripture in the way that we have come to perceive it. But if you have a different background or a different orientation, thank you for coming tonight and God bless you.

So that's my quick disclaimer of how we're going to be teaching, going over this material tonight.

But just by way of quick background about our ministry, we have several different movies that are out, Genesis Impact, The Demunk Evolution.

These are available on Amazon Prime, Video on Demand, but the first in -theater movie we're doing is

The Ark in the Darkness, Unearthing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood. We just finished the filming for this movie over at Liberty University in Virginia, and The Ark Encounter in Kentucky, and have 11

PhDs that have helped us with that, Answers in Genesis is also participating with it, and it will come out in about a year and a half.

So we're just on the post -production side of that. We have a pretty significant YouTube channel.

We have over 10 million views and 113 ,000 subscribers, and we put out most of our ministry content as really web -based because I have a passion and a burden for youth, and youth today are on their phones about six hours a day.

So we're trying to reach youth where they're at with short, compelling videos that talk about making a case for Genesis and for creation.

We strengthen a lot of Christian schools. I regularly teach at Jessup, Capital Christian, Providence, Victory, Summit.

Our vice president is in all those schools. Pretty much every K -12 school in this area we have some involvement with, either chapel teaching or conferences or teaching in their classes.

We give a lot of local church presentations, and we have an annual conference. We did it last year at William Jessup, and we'll be repeating it this year again in March or April.

We have a couple different programs. All of this stuff is free, so this is not really an advertisement. You can go right here, debunkevolution .com,

and download the program if you'd like. This is for fifth to tenth graders. Youth are exposed today to about 250 pages of evolution teaching in public school.

So we've taken a lot of the public school content that they're going to get on evolution teaching and have developed a two -hour video -based program for them to see it through a biblical worldview and not necessarily from an evolution worldview.

And then if you have a high school or college student, the 7myths .com program is a great way for them to solidify their faith in Genesis as a real history book before going off to college.

We also have our answers book. Every year we field thousands of questions through our social media channel and emails and YouTube.

We took the top 50 questions that we always get asked, and we developed a book based upon those themes.

And most of those answers in this book also have videos along with them, but that book is also free.

If you go to our booth in the main side of the main church, you can grab a copy of that book for free.

And we love talking about our mobile app. We have about 100 ,000 installs, as far as we know. It's the number one leading creation evolution app that's available on Android, so the

Google Play and Apple Store, and it plums into all of our leading videos that are on YouTube.

So you can get all of our content right on your phone, and all of that is free. So I talked a little bit about our movie,

The Ark and the Darkness, coming to theaters probably July 2023. And here is a copy of the book.

Again, in the back of the room, you guys can get one free tonight. A lot of the content of what we're going to be covering tonight comes from this film or this short video, about 23 minutes long on YouTube.

It's currently the leading film in the world on the evidence for Noah's Flood. It has about 2 .7

million views on YouTube, several million views on Facebook. And we compiled this film by interviewing the lead flood geologists and the lead flood experts in the world.

It took about nine months to produce it. And I think it has some really, really compelling evidence for Noah's Flood, and it gets into some more of the detail that we're going to be covering tonight.

But if you want to do the deep dive, just go to this video here. If you've got the handouts, you should be able to see that web address.

It's just Noah's Flood and catastrophic plate tectonics. So I want to start today with the big question.

This is a Bible conference, and I want to say very, very boldly that the Bible makes the biggest claim about a worldwide cataclysm of any religious text in history.

The Bible takes three chapters, in Genesis chapter six to nine, and says that the entire world was engulfed with water for 371 days, and everything outside of the ark perished.

That is a huge claim. And if that really happened, I would expect that this world would be filled with evidence that like the

Bible says, that every single hill on earth was covered with 15 cubits of water or 22 feet of water.

So if something like that happened, we should be able to go see it profoundly in every corner of the world.

So that's a pretty profound claim that the Bible makes. And let's just jump right in and look at what

Scripture talks about. So this is a very quick orientation to Noah's Flood. If you're new to this topic, or new to reading your

Bible, or want to get into Genesis some more, so here's where we're landing today. It's Genesis chapter six through nine.

The flood lasted over a year. That torrential rain part, most people think, well Noah's Flood was only 40 days.

That was just the torrential rain part of the flood, but the whole process was 371 days.

There was only eight people saved on the ark, and Noah took pairs of all land -dwelling, air -breathing animal kinds were saved.

So it preceded the Ice Age by a hundred years or so, and it's mentioned by several other

Bible writers, and it was basically a reset of life on earth version number two.

The book of 2 Peter talks about the world that then was, was destroyed. So the world that we're living on today is very much a reset world that's completely different than the world that was around for about 1700 years from creation to the flood.

This is a totally different place that we live in. So lots and lots of ink has been spilled on this

Noah's Flood account. In fact, as I mentioned, it's the longest narrative of any single event in all of Scripture, even eclipsing the resurrection.

So Moses talked about the flood. Of course, he took compiled documents and wrote about the flood.

We say that Moses produced the Torah. Some parts he wrote, other parts he probably produced. And then, of course,

Peter and Paul in the New Testament talked about the flood, and Jesus Himself talked about the flood in Matthew 24.

So I would argue that the stake and the credibility of the entire Bible rests on whether this flood happened or not.

If the flood didn't happen, if I personally wasn't convinced of it, I wouldn't be up here today talking about it.

But I've spent years investigating this stuff. I completely believe it happened. In fact, I think it's very obvious that it happened, and I believe the world has obfuscated that it's happened.

In fact, Scripture even says in 2 Peter 3 that in the last days, scoffers will come, and they're going to deny two things.

They're going to deny creation out of nothing, and they're going to deny that the world was catastrophically destroyed with water.

And I can pick up most college textbooks today, and they deny those two things.

So we're living in interesting times today. Okay, so when did the flood happen?

Well, if you just grab your Bible, which is based on a textual tradition called the Masoretic Text, the easiest age to pull up is about 2348

BC. That's based on Bishop Utsher's chronology. That's the most classic interpretation, so about 4 ,400 years ago or so.

But there's some things that you can do with Abraham's lifespan that might back it up a little bit more, maybe to 2 ,500

BC. And then there's the Septuagint tradition, which is the Greek translation of the

Old Testament, and it has some differences in the years that are reported in the

Genesis chapters 5 and 10 that might back the flood up as far back as 3168.

But scripturally, it definitely cannot go beyond that. So we're looking at about 4 ,400 years ago all the way to 3168

BC. So that brackets in when Noah's flood occurred. The flood itself, as I mentioned, was a 371 -day process.

The waters—the Bible says that the fountains of the great deep and the windows of heaven were opened on the same day.

And then that torrential rain began for 40 days, and the waters rose for 150 days, and then zenith, they hit their top at about 150 days.

Then the water receded for 150 days, and then earth dried out for about 70 days.

So it was a 371 -day process, and there's all kinds of geological markers that we can use called sloss megasequences that we can use to track these different stages of the flood.

The sloss megasequences are all over the world. We're not going to be getting into that topic tonight. It's more of an advanced geology topic, but we can trace back through the dirt, through the sediment layers, and believe where we think these different stages of the flood happened.

But it was a year -long process. The ark itself was 300 cubits by 50 by 30, which is about 450 feet by about 75 feet by about 45 feet.

And based upon the interpretation of a cubit, which is your elbow to the tip of your middle finger here, maybe 18 to 22 inches, it was within that bracketed size.

But God came to Noah and gave him very, very specific dimensions on how to build the ark.

But you're looking at something that was about 450 to about 520 feet long, and it actually perfectly matches the dimensions and shape and length -to -width ratio that the current ocean barges have.

So it's a very seaworthy shape. So, in fact, people have tested that shape in the

CRISO study that took the 12 different models of Noah's ark to the Korean Naval Center in 1993 and ran it against all kinds of studies by simulating tsunamis that would come up and hit a simulated size of ark.

And they determined of 12 different ways to build the ark, 12 different dimensions and shapes, that the dimensions that God gave specifically to Noah, the 300 by 50 by 30, were the best with respect to the comfort, stability, and strength.

So God obviously knew what he was doing when he gave very specific dimensions to Noah on how to build it.

And then he said, coat it on the inside and on the outside with pitch, which is what you bake down with pine resin, basically.

And people have been using pitch as like a fiberglass to waterproof boats. Boats all the way up to the 1800s, it was the defined way to do it.

And it would also add a little bit of fiberglass, kind of an epoxy strengthening to the ship as well.

So God knew what he was doing when he told Noah to make a boat that would last the torrential oceans for 370 days.

So let's talk a little bit about the pre -flood world. What was it like before the flood hit? So 2

Peter 3 .6 says, whereby the world that then was being overflowed with water perished.

So world version number one was buried catastrophically. And we can tell this very, very obviously from the fossil record.

If you jump into the fossil record and start looking at things like these big, huge creatures, and here's a two and a half foot wingspan dragonfly, these things would not live very well in today's earth atmosphere.

So we take the position that maybe even the oxygen layers were different. Maybe the barometric pressures were different before the flood.

And secularists even write books like this, like Out of Thin Air, they talk about a time that they call the

Carboniferous Period, where they've actually documented it with some soil samples and some flora that the earth might have had higher levels of oxygen.

And if that was true, it would allow all kinds of things to grow differently, like this 20 foot tall mushroom.

Here's an artist's rendition of what that probably looked like, giant fungi were living in the pre -flood world, and eight foot centipedes.

We have these things in the fossil record that would probably not live very well in today's earth atmosphere.

So how'd you like to find that in your sheets at night? There's other things like this sauropod dinosaur, the largest sauropods nowadays.

And interestingly, God calls this behemoth in Job chapter 40. God brags about it and says, this is the chief of my work, the chief of the biggest, baddest thing that I ever made, and no one can approach it.

It's got a tail that sways like a cedar tree. This is one of the two leading animals that God actually brags about and says, this is the chief.

The number one first in rank is what the Hebrew is talking about of all of my creations. And if you take a look at his nostrils there, well, they're only about the same size as a modern day horse.

So how are you going to get enough oxygen in that animal if you're living in today's earth atmosphere for it to breathe?

And even, you know, secularists have said you're going to have a hard time trying to get enough air into that animal.

Some of these sauropods were over 120 feet long and weighed 77 tons. So how are you going to breathe enough

O2 in that creature if you've got little tiny nostrils? So I believe that the pre -flood world was a different place.

If you look at flying sauropods, or I'm sorry, flying pterosaurs like this, the biggest one we've ever found in the fossil record is

Quetzalcoatlus, a 53 foot wingspan, probably weighed 600 pounds and definitely could not fly in today's earth atmosphere.

You'd have to get it way up on a cliff and maybe push it off and hope it could glide maybe down to the bottom. But some people have run the flight physics on these creatures and realized that you'd have to even hit the wings with about 16 miles an hour of wind just to get its toes up off of the ground.

So earth was a different place before the flood and there's all kinds of profound grand animals and creatures living and growing and roaming about.

So next I want to get into something that's a little bit technical, but I want to make sure we address it tonight because it dispels some myths that people believe about the

Bible. So let's talk about the Genesis lifespan. So anyone who starts reading the

Bible can get right into the first couple chapters of Genesis and go, whoa, whoa, wait a second.

These guys are living to an average of 912 years before the flood.

This Bible's got to be a fairy tale. This is crazy. People don't live to be 900 years old.

And it's not just Adam and his son Seth and all of their protégés, it's everyone before the flood.

All these patriarchs that are listed, except for Enoch who was transported when he was about 375,

I think, they're living over 900 years, most of them. So that's a showstopper for a lot of people who are going through Scripture.

They put it down and say, well, this has got to be a fairy tale. So scientists have investigated why they think this has happened and it's actually turned on its head to become one of the most profound proofs and the most profound evidences that Scripture is actually correct and accurate.

So if you look at these pre -flood lifespans of people, so they're living over 900 years long, and that's because when

God made Adam and Eve, their gene pool was perfect before the fall. They were programmed, they're ready to live forever.

They sinned and then death, corruption, disease, cancer, all that stuff, then entered into our world.

It came through the one man, through Adam and Eve. And then they started getting, decreasing their lifespan more and more and more and more.

So it starts going down a little bit and then they hit the flood and then all of a sudden lifespans go down exponentially because we have 2 ,900 years recorded of lifespans in the early chapters of Genesis.

So why is that? Why are people living 900 years, then they don't suddenly fall off of a cliff, they go down on what's called an exponential decay curve.

So I spent about 20 years as a testifying expert in state and federal court cases, as an expert in statistics and research.

So I love this kind of stuff and I worked with a geneticist named Dr. John Sanford, the guy who invented the gene gun.

This is Dr. Sanford over here and he's in the Smithsonian Natural Museum of America with his gene gun.

And what Dr. Sanford determined is that it's called a biological decay curve.

What happened in short is that if you take everyone who lived before the flood in the original population was probably just millions of people, then you have a bottleneck event where you take from that original population just down to eight people because we had

Noah and his wife and Shem, Ham and Japheth and their three wives. So you take all of this genetic variability and you choke point it down to just eight people.

Then these eight people get off the arc a year later and then they start, you know, having more kids and having more kids and kids and kids.

What happens when you do that to any population, dogs, humans, whatever it might be, is you're going to increase your mutation load in your gene pool.

So right now if brothers and sisters have a kid, there's a really high likelihood of some physical deformity.

But when you take a population of millions and humans, choke it down to just eight people, then they go to an island or in this case after the flood, then they're going to start reproducing again.

The mutations in our genes begin increasing exponentially. John has actually done studies that have been published in peer -reviewed scientific journals called genetic entropy and he's proven this scientifically.

Our gene load is getting worse and worse and worse with mutations over the years as the years go by.

So that's what happened. And if you plot this out statistically, we can take a Noah and then begin plotting out the number of generations after Noah and it falls along what's called an exponential power law curve.

In fact, the data is so fitting that it's statistically significant at a level that is off of the charts.

So something's going on here that was not invented by some ancient writer writing with a feather pen on animal skins.

He was recording the real lifespans of these people and it began falling down on the biological decay curve in a way that would exactly express what a gene, a mutational load in our genes would do.

So that's what the statistical curve looks like. So when I would testify as an expert in state and federal court cases, all

I would have to hit on my evidence standard would be the 5 % level of chance. I'd be able to go take the stand and say, your honor,

I know this phenomenon is happening because it's statistically significant at a 5 % chance letter level or more.

But what happened here is it's not statistically significant at the 5%. It's actually off the radar.

So what's ever happening with these lifespans exponentially declining along this power law curve is statistically significant and it's impossible to mimic or imitate.

The data is following along a very strong predictable line. So we can take that line and we can actually, if you tell me the number of generations a person is from Noah, I can tell you how long they would likely live based upon the model itself.

So it's got great predictive power. So something really significant is going on here and it follows a biological decay curve and it's not invented.

So you can't have some ancient guy going around with a feather pen writing on animal skins, doing logarithmic math, writing dates and years along a power curve that's statistically significant.

It's impossible. Making it even more impossible, this story about these guys having declining lifespans tracks over 2 ,900 years of biblical history.

So not only would one guy have to be in on this scam, you'd have to have a multi -generational lie of people systematically declining these lifespans over 2 ,900 years of biblical history.

So how could these guys get together over almost 3 ,000 years and come up with a scam to systematically decline lifespans along a way that is statistically significant along a power law curve?

So you have really two choices. Choice number one is the data and the years, the lifespans of these people really does reflect a biological decay curve that's related to the mutation load that's increasing in our gene pool or a multi -generational group of people over 3 ,000 years who knew logarithmic math, advanced regression, writing with feather pens on animal skins somehow coordinated over three millennia to carry a lie that we would be talking about today.

I don't think that's very feasible. I think God's Word is true, and we're seeing a biological decay curve here.

Okay, so that biological decay curve is actually tied up at Luke chapter 3. If you take Luke chapter 3, we have the entire genealogies of our

Lord Jesus that goes from over here. We have 70 generations. It goes all the way back through King David, goes to Abraham, then it goes to Noah, then we have all the pre -flood patriarchs over here.

I would say that what we just witnessed with that 2 ,900 years of history following along a power curve validates that whole line because it tells a history of a people who used to live really, really long, sin enters the world,

Noah's flood happens, their gene pool gets choked, mutations begin increasing, and they start systematically declining the lifespans, and that's all tied up with 70 different generations of history that's in the

New Testament and in the Old Testament. So for me, as a statistician and as a researcher, that's some good credible evidence to go with.

So I found that real fascinating. So next let's just cover a question we get a lot, so how do you fit all the animals on the ark?

We get this a lot, like people who don't want to believe in Genesis, they'll attack us and say, well, there's 1 .5

million species alive today, you can't take 1 .5 million species on the ark. And my response is, of course you couldn't take 1 .5

million species. All Noah had to do and all the scripture says is that he took the created kinds.

It's usually at the family or the genus level. And so if you look at Canis lupus over here, the familiar wolf or the horse kind or the bear kind or the chicken kind, you can see how we get to reduce the number of species or breeds in each because there's 339 breeds of dog, they all go back to the wolf.

There's 336 breeds of horses, they're all interfertile. You can take any horse of any size and they're usually interfertile.

And the bear family at the family level, there's still five of eight species of the bears that are still interfertile.

You can still crossbreed a grizzly bear with a polar bear and five different species here are interfertile and chickens, same things.

You can take any of the 69 or 68 different chicken breeds, they're still all interfertile. So the

Bible says that God brought the animals to Noah. So when God was bringing the animals to Noah, all you have to do is have pairs of kind representatives.

Not all the different species, not all the breeds, just the kinds. And most creationists that have studied this called barominologists have broken down the list to fewer than 3 ,000 animal kinds is all you would need to bring aboard the ark to reproduce all the species variation that we have today.

Okay. So the world's idea is that you go from the goo through the zoo to me and you.

You know, that's the idea. You go from, you know, from pond scum to Uncle Harry over here or whatever it would be.

So that's the idea. But the Bible says, no, God created after their kind. In fact, 10 times in Genesis chapter one, it says

God created the kind. The Hebrew word is mean, meaning like at the family level. Then you have the flood events.

So there was probably some speciation and some variation that happened between creation and the flood. Then you have the flood extinction event and you have lots of variability that occurred after that with many animals we have still today and many animals that went extinct quickly after the flood.

So that's the Bible's take on how you get all the animals on the ark. Now let's get into some of the thicker part of our presentation tonight.

We're going to be talking about the flood mechanics. So let's look at some key verses here. Genesis 7 says, in the 600 year of Noah's life, in the second month, in the 17th day of the month, you notice already it's starting to talk like a real history book.

That doesn't sound like fairy tale language to me. This is a real diary. It says, on the same day were all of the fountains of the great deep broken up and the windows of heaven were opened.

So we have a clue that whatever started the flood happened on the ocean floor.

The fountains of the great deep broke forth. That's the biggest keyword that you can have when we get into this.

Then we see that the flood zenith or peaked for about 150 days. The waters prevailed over the highest hills on the earth for 15 cubits upward, which is about 22 feet.

And then the earth, the water began decreasing or receding for 150 days and then earth dried out for about 70.

So those are some key passages from Genesis that talk about that. These guys, this panel of six experts, the geophysicists and geologists and all types of people, different backgrounds, got together in the 90s and framed what's a theory about the fountains of the great deep called catastrophic plate tectonics, which is the leading theory about the mechanics of Noah's flood today.

And I'm going to give you a quick overview of what that's like now. So here's what the fountains of the great deep breaking forward probably look like.

We have a big, huge rip and tear beginning, starting at the ocean floor, and then we have linear steam jets that are popping up that are getting cooled rapidly.

But we've got what's called superheated or critically heated water that's coming out of the fountains of the great deep, bursting forward and coming back down to earth as torrential rain.

We also believe the Bible says that the fabric of heaven was also open, like thatchwork of heaven was open, and it rained torrentially, but the source of the water that was coming from the sky was from these steam jets raining down as well as the rain that was coming down naturally.

And here is what the fountains of the great deep look like. The earth has a 40 ,000 mile linear rift system that goes entirely around the world 1 .9

times, and they're still present today. This is where a lot of the subduction falls happen.

A lot of our volcanoes are happening and shifting around those same regions. And here's what

Dr. Baumgardner emulated. We basically have a Pangea -like formation before the flood that breaks apart catastrophically and spreads over a one -year timeframe as the continents are moving apart at a speed of about five miles per hour, so walking or jogging speed.

We have the fountains of the great deep breaking open. You can see the linear rifts here that are all over the world, and as that's happening, it's pushing the continents apart.

And that's what's responsible for bearing all kinds of animals with tsunamis and things like that. The most obvious one is the

Mid -Atlantic Ridge, which is like a baseball seam that goes about 10 ,000 miles right down the middle of the earth.

Here's what a bathymetric map shows like, a map when you take away all the water. You can see how pronounced this huge fountain of the great deep is, the

Mid -Atlantic Ridge. It's got hills on each side. It's a very, very pronounced rift zone that opened up during Noah's flood just about 4 ,400 years ago.

When those rifts were opening, superheated magma was coming up through the rift zones, forming new seafloor that was spreading on both sides.

You can see that spreading emulation. It's going up across, and that's what is pushing these continents apart.

It's creating new seafloor. It's coming out. It's going left and right, and it's pushing the continents apart, so an amazing mechanism for doing that.

While that was happening, it was also creating a lot of subduction -related tsunamis and volcanoes, and we've got some more that I'll show you about that next.

Here we have the plate subducting, and when it hits the landmass here, it starts recycling back into earth.

Here we have the subducting plate, and it's going to hit the landmass, and we would have the seafloor spreading out here somewhere.

It's going this way and that way. It comes up and hits the landmass, and when it does, it binds and starts building up tension.

This is how we get subduction -related earthquakes today. This is exactly what happened in Japan. Builds up tension, then it releases, and it sends a tsunami in two directions when that happens.

It's exactly what happened in Haiti. It happened in Japan, and then these cycling tsunamis are coming up in repeated fashion and building up the layered geology we see on continents today.

It's happening in cycles over a one -year -long period of time. This is how we can explain this massive dinosaur kill zone that we see here.

Each one of these dots is not just one fossil. It represents either thousands or, in some cases, hundreds of thousands of fossils.

This is the Jurassic and the Cretaceous fossil layer. We see it's about 1 ,800 miles long, 1 ,000 miles wide, and a million square miles of the middle of America is filled with dinosaurs that are buried with fish, clams, and other ocean life.

What on earth can do that? A huge worldwide catastrophe is necessary for doing this.

It's an entire region. It's a million square miles, a huge, huge area here. This is a clip from Montana, and we can see there was a helicopter up there.

Here's where they're finding things like the largest T. rex that was found under 100 feet of mud that was found in layers from these tsunamis coming up in a recycling, repeating fashion.

We're finding the dinosaurs buried under, in some cases, 50 or 100 feet of mud. This is in North Dakota.

Here's a guy digging up the Tannus fossil bed in North Dakota. Look at all the layers laid down there. This is all the way up in North Dakota, in the middle of America, with all kinds of layers going on from these tsunamis that were bringing up mud and sand in a repeated, cycled fashion.

We know this subduction happened because we can take underground x -rays now, and we can still see things like this

Farallon plate. This is the subducted plate that dove underneath North America. We can still see it today.

It's got a heat map associated with it, and it hit on the left side of America over here and then dove under, and all of that is subducted seafloor.

It's there today, and we can go and see it. This is where we get 90 % of the earthquakes that happen.

They happen along these subduction zones. 90 % of the earthquakes we get today are still happening along these fault lines because the subduction is still happening, only much slower than what was happening during the flood.

Okay, the other evidence that we have that I think is very compelling that we had started with the Pangaea -like formation before the flood is called fossil correlation.

Fossil correlation is really simple. Like in South America, we have this group of these types of animals that are found dispersed across both

South America and Africa. We have these kind of creatures on two or three different continents. We have these fossils that were living together, then they were rapidly and catastrophically pushed apart because we can find fossils of each of these species on different sides of continents.

So for example, let's just take a look at South America over here in Africa. Each one of these circles represents a massive fossil bed, and we can see how these two continents perfectly fit in together here with this notch.

So if we bring them together and we refit the notch into the Pangaea -like formation that used to be there, look at these ecosystems that were all together, all these green dots go together.

This was a joined ecosystem with all of these types of plants and animals that you see.

This is a fossil count from the fossil database that were all together and they're almost perfectly matching.

So these creatures were living together and then the fountains of the great deep broke forth here and split these continents apart.

And here's the most important thing I can say tonight. These animals are buried in the mud that killed them.

They're not buried in mud, they're buried in the mud that was responsible for their death. So 10 feet of mud, 50 feet of mud, all kinds of mud here that buried these.

So basically you can have brothers and sisters or cousins that are separated now by thousands of miles, but they were once together and you can go find brother and sister fossils on either matching side of the continents proving that they were pulled apart radically, catastrophically and quickly.

Didn't happen slowly, it happened quickly. So fossil correlation is a great evidence for the flood as well.

We have folded and bent rock layers all over the world. Here's some example where you can see the strata that was laid down while it was still wet and bent and folded.

You can't bend rock after it's been lithified and hardened. You have to bend these layers as they're still wet.

But all over the world we have these bent and folded strata. This one's called a recumbent fold, it folded right back on itself because as the seafloor is spreading it's coming up and putting pressure against the landmass and it's smushing the landmass together and bending the folds while they're still wet and pliable.

Here's one that's right in California, all kinds of folds going on. And here's a huge one, there's actually tree trops right down here, all kinds of bends and folds here.

Some evolutionists have challenged this and saying, no, we just think that the rock was bent under heat and pressure over time.

And so Dr. Snelling, from answers in Genesis, got a permit from the Grand Canyon to go take 40 fist -sized rocks out of the peak of the bend here in the

Grand Canyon. He took those 40 specimens into a lab and proved from a chemical signature that the bend in fact did happen when the rock was cold and pliable and still wet because the chemical signature matches here, here, and here.

So it wasn't bent over time with heat and pressure, it was bent when it was wet and pliable.

So now we've got some great evidence that substantiates that. So here's a quick simulation showing of how we can get things like seashells on the tops of mountains because when the subduction was happening, that mechanism was sufficient to push these seafloor with all these creatures that were living down there, oysters, clams, bivalves, all these things were pushed up during Noah's Flood.

And that's why we can get things like seashells on the top of Mount Everest, currently 29 ,000 feet high and it's jammed with marine life.

So those clams didn't walk 29 ,000 feet up, they were on the ocean floor, the fountains of the

Great Deep broke open and some catastrophic movements with the plates pushed them 29 ,000 feet high in the air.

So very good evidence for Noah's Flood there. So back to the fossil record of dinosaurs, this to me is one of the most compelling pieces of evidence.

Remember, it's huge, it's 1 ,800 miles long by 1 ,000 miles wide, it takes up 14 states, three countries, something happened back then that's not happening today to bury all of these creatures.

So let's look at dinosaur taphonomy. So when we dig up dinosaurs nowadays and they're excavating them, they typically find that dinosaurs are buried in a matrix of three different substances, mud, sand, and ash.

That's typically how we find dinosaurs buried today. Some of them are just found in mud, some are just found in sandstone, and some are just found in ash, but usually it's a composite of those three substances.

So as an investigator, you have to think, what type of worldwide cataclysm event could produce mud, sand, and ash and bury 14 states worth of dinosaurs in mud, sand, and ash?

Well, catastrophic plate tectonics describes that because the tsunamis that would be happening as you have the spreading seafloor over here, you have the subducting seafloor that goes under the landmass, it builds up tension, throws a tsunami up, that's going to be responsible for the first two, mud and sand.

As the subduction continues, you're going to have volcanism on the coastal areas here as the heat and magma raise up and have all kinds of volcanic activity happening.

Like in California, for example, there's a place in Southern California called the Independence Dyke Swarm.

It's 378 miles long and it's a linear rift that's now closed and it's not active.

But right here in Southern California was a linear rift almost 400 miles long that was responsible for producing 4 ,000 cubic miles of ash.

Mount St. Helens was like 0 .1 % of that, it's incredible. So it produced 4 ,000 cubic miles of ash, it covered one half of America, and there's all kinds of places where you can dig down and find hundreds of feet of this still present.

So all kinds of subduction was happening and volcanic activity that was related to that. So that's how we can explain how the dinosaurs are buried in those three substances.

So we look around at the worldwide coal deposits, we know that these dinosaurs were living in a jungle -like habitat or a forest -like habitat.

All of that got buried during Noah's Flood, leading to all these coal seams we have that in some cases are huge.

So here's a picture, you can see a couple guys here with a van. Look at that giant coal seam, how much plant life would be necessary to bury under sediment to have that amount of coal, a huge amount of it.

So that's basically the habitat that the dinosaurs were living in when they got buried. And you can see all these coal deposits and they're worldwide.

So something happened back then that's not happening today to produce all these coal deposits and it would take a worldwide flood to do that.

So now let's take a look more closely at dinosaur extinction. This is the secular idea. So when you guys go to a natural history museum today, they're going to say, well, the

Noah's Flood didn't kill the dinosaurs, the Chicxulub asteroid did. Has anyone heard that before? The asteroid killed the dinosaurs?

So here's where the Chicxulub asteroid hit, way down here on the Yucatan Peninsula in Mexico.

And here's a simulation of what impact that would likely have as far as sending tsunamis up in the region and everything.

But what happened to our 14 states of dead dinosaurs over here? How'd they get buried? So if we look at the simulation here of the

Chicxulub, so there's all the mud we have in Montana. There's a dinosaur that's buried under 100 feet of mud.

Here's where the Chicxulub asteroid hit. Here's a dinosaur kill zone. And I would call that quite a miss.

So here's all the dead dinosaurs. Here's a Chicxulub asteroid that hits and the tsunamis that are happening.

And it completely missed. So you can't say that these worldwide dinosaurs that are buried all over the world is due to one single asteroid that hit 2 ,000 miles away from the heart of the kill zone.

All right. So next let's get into the 10 lines of evidence about dinosaur extinction by the flood.

And we are going to fly through some of these. I have a longer talk when we get into each one of them. But there's 10 different characteristics about how these dinosaurs are buried that I think really substantiates the flood.

The first is that these dinosaur fossils are everywhere. They're worldwide. We're focusing on America, but they're definitely worldwide.

So the vast extent is one clue that we have. Next we know that they were buried furiously and they were disarticulated.

They're buried in mud. They're buried in ash and they're buried in sand. Oftentimes they're found buried simultaneously in groups.

We find entire herds of dinosaurs in fossil beds that are over a mile long in some areas that are found buried simultaneously.

They're frequently found mixed with marine fossils. They're buried sometimes without juveniles because the adults were trying to flee the oncoming floodwaters and leaving the youth and the babies all behind.

And now I think one of the best proofs we have nowadays is that dinosaur bones that we're discovering today, we've now discovered up to 16 different types of bioorganic materials that are found in dinosaur bones showing they're not petrified rocks.

They're still bones and there's still organics inside of the bones that simply can't be millions of years old.

There's carbon 14 in bones. Carbon 14 is only supposed to date back about 60 ,000 years, but dinosaur bones are filled with carbon 14.

And we find mummified dinosaurs. So the idea of the secular evolution timeline certainly can't explain these 10 characteristics of how we find the dinosaur buried.

But the biblical flood can really well explain these 10 characteristics. So let's just go through them real quick.

Here's where all the Allosaurus species are found. If you go to the Jurassic layers, you see all these little dots here?

That's where they're finding these creatures. So the Allosaurus dinosaurs are found in these areas.

And the sauropods are found in the same area. And the stegosaurus are also found in the same area.

So what are these three creatures doing when you put them all together here? Why are they buried in the same regions?

It's almost like they were living together before something huge hit them all and buried them where they were living.

We do know that some of the dinosaurs were re -emplaced. They were hit with the tsunamis, rolled up and blended, and then emplaced in different locations.

But I find that very interesting. When you start plotting out these dinosaur species, they're living and buried very much in the same locations, as if it had to happen suddenly.

We find that 97 % of the dinosaur fossil record is disarticulated, which means that only about 3 % of the dinosaurs we find today are found with whole or complete linked together fossils.

97 % of the dinosaur fossil record is blenderized, like something hit them.

Tsunamis over and over again, blending up their bones and burying them in mud layers, heaped up one after the other.

Only 3 % are found complete. And that's drawn from Carl Werner's book. We also find dinosaurs buried in an asphyxiation pose called the dinosaur death pose.

A lot of theropod dinosaurs are found buried with their necks arched back, choking as they died.

Some scientists have actually tried burying live chickens to simulate this. Not creation scientists, of course, but maybe it's the secular guys.

But they've done studies to prove that when a chicken is suffocating, being buried in mud, this is exactly what happens to it.

As it's reaching for air, its necks kind of arch back like this, and it gets asphyxiated as it dies, as it's choking on mud.

Here's a huge T. rex. Same thing. So the key word, again, is these dinosaurs are buried in the mud that killed them.

They're not buried just in mud. They're buried in the mud that was responsible for their death. Here's a place

I went and saw called the Dinosaur Provincial Park in Canada. You guys, as far as the eye can see up at this location, we've got 14 miles worth of dead dinosaurs that are buried with fish, clam, amphibians, turtles, and fish.

And they're buried, in many cases, in these hoodoos under 50 to 100 feet of mud. How in the world do you do that?

How can you take a 14 -mile stretch of land and fill it with dinosaurs and marine life together?

It would take a huge catastrophic flood to do that. When you go in the middle of America in this huge one -million -mile kill zone here and start taking pictures of the signs and museums, they admit it.

Look at this. Hundreds of dinosaurs died in and were buried by flash floods, or a large ancient flood washed over the starfish all at once, entombing them.

These are from secular museum signs. Hundreds of dinosaurs buried together with shark teeth.

How do you bury hundreds of dinosaurs with shark teeth? You've got to take the ocean and bring it up onto land, and it's got to be catastrophic.

So very good evidence there. Here's Jack Horner, a famous paleontologist. Look at the subtitle of his book over here.

It's a search for the unraveled mystery of the baby dinosaurs.

He found this place in the middle of America where a one -and -a -quarter -mile -long stretch is filled with 10 ,000 dead adult

Myosaura dinosaurs, 10 ,000 of them, a mile and a quarter long, and every single dinosaur in that swath of land was an adult between 9 and 23 feet long.

How do you take a herd of 10 ,000 dinosaurs over a mile -long stretch, bury them in mud, and have no youth around?

They had to be fleeing from something that they were scared about. So that's the only way that you can describe it.

So there's 10 ,000 of these creatures. They're huge, between 9 and 23 feet. Every single one was an adult, no youth around.

So the adult was saying, hey, forget the kids. Let's get out of here, and buried catastrophically.

But here's some good scientific evidence. So this is from over 50 peer -reviewed secular science journals.

These are not creationist publications. These are secular, peer -reviewed science journals that have now substantiated over 16 different types of bio -organic materials that they're finding in dinosaur bones, things like red blood cells and blood vessels and fecks and histones and proteins and keratin and skin pigments.

All these things definitely can't be millions of years old. Here is a triceratops horn that's been demineralized that you can still stretch.

That's certainly not a 65 -million -year -old rock. That is a triceratops horn that was buried rapidly during the flood.

And when you demineralize it, take off the bone mineral, the soft tissue inside of the horn is still pliable, still stretchable.

So that definitely aligns more with Noah's Flood than anything else. Here's a couple of red blood cells that are lined up like a train inside of a blood vessel.

So Mary Schweitzer, when she took this T -Rex out of the area that she was excavating it, first of all,

Mary Schweitzer says when she's digging up these bones from the Hell Creek formation, the ground, the soil still has a stench of death to it.

How could that be 65 million years old if it's got the stench of death to it? Very, very interesting.

The bone was too big. So she cut it in half, a big T -Rex femur, cut it in half so they could helicopter it out of there, brought some of the bone shards into the lab, put it under a microscope, and there's red blood cells still inside of the

T -Rex femur lined up within a blood vessel. So here is the leading director, the founder of the

Royal Terrell Museum, the largest dinosaur museum in the world. And he says, well, actually, usually most of the original bone is still present in a dinosaur fossil.

So when I was a kid going through school, it was beat into me that dinosaur fossils are just rocks.

They're not organic. They're just bones that have been replaced by the minerals that are in the groundwater, and that's what a fossil was.

Now science is saying, ah, I think we were wrong. These dinosaur fossils we're finding are not hardened per mineralized rocks.

They're still bone. I've purchased several of these bones and sent them out into labs ourselves using advanced scanning electron microscopy, and they come back after the analysis.

It's what's called hydroxyapatite, which is bone mineral. So bones are in an infusion of bone mineral and collagen.

Collagen is a soft, flexible material that makes up bone. And the collagen that they're finding in these dinosaur bones now should all be degraded away.

It should all be gone if they're really 65 million years old. But they're still finding collagen in dinosaur bone, and they just proved a couple years ago it wasn't contamination.

It's actually collagen that was original to the animal at the molecular level. So they're still trying to scramble on how to do that.

So here's a picture of the dinosaur collagen that they're finding. That's an amazing picture there.

I mean, that's right inside of a dinosaur bone. That's certainly not a rock. That's some organic material there.

So collagen fibers, these are supposedly 75 million years old. There's been five different peer -reviewed scientific studies that are not done by creationists.

These are five scientific studies where they've tried to estimate the maximum shelf life of collagen.

So if you take a bone, you throw it outside, you cover it with mud, these studies have investigated how long should collagen last in that bone before it's all decayed away.

Some studies say, well, I think collagen can last between 10 ,000 and 30 ,000 years. Another study said about 100 ,000 years.

And the Buckley study with several scientists on it says, well, we're going to give it a maximum of between 300 ,000 years and 900 ,000 years.

So five studies, none of them say that collagen can last more than a million years.

So if that's the case, so if collagen is supposed to all be gone within one million years, why do we find it in dinosaur bones that are supposedly 65 million years old?

In fact, I just presented on this in a guy's classroom. His name was Professor Charles Darwin.

That was really his name. And I think when I got to this slide, he almost sent me packing out of his classroom.

He's like, I don't want you saying this stuff to my students because I'm like, look, your own science textbooks say collagen should be gone.

It can't last more than a million years. You guys explain to me how it's still in dinosaur bones. Because your studies are coming out over and over again saying it's still in the bones.

The data proves more on the creation side than it does the idea of evolution.

So I think that these 16 bioorganic materials really fit with the flood time frame.

In fact, it's quite amazing that these bioorganic materials, including the last two that we've just discovered, which are nerve cells and cartilage, could even last 4 ,400 years, much less 65 million years.

So I think that the data really leans on the flood side for that. They've also found several different mummified dinosaurs.

Here's Leonardo. They've got ligaments, skin impression. All types of things are still intact with this creature.

They actually dug into its gullet and found ferns and magnolia leaves still intact from what it was eating before it got slammed with the flood and buried.

So it's actually a mummified dinosaur. Here's another one that's about 100 years old. I believe that's a hadrosaur.

It's got its skeleton encased with skin impressions. Here's Skippy. They say Skippy is 113 million years old, but it still has intestines, colon, liver, muscles, and windpipe still intact.

That's a very fresh fossil. And here's one that they just recently discovered, a nodosaur. And it weighs 2 ,500 pounds.

And it originally probably weighed only 3 ,000 pounds. And it's still got its gut intact.

And scientists, they say here, well, they think it was swept to sea by a flooding river, sank, and landed on its back, and then was eventually fossilized.

But it's a mummified dinosaur. It's not a hardened rock. It's still the creature, but it's just been mummified.

Amazing findings. So when we look at evidence, we have to kind of step back from these 10 different lines of evidence that we've looked at and ask ourselves the questions, honestly, does it form an evidence mosaic?

And an evidence mosaic is where 10 different things or more point to the same conclusion.

And so the quick tour I just took you guys through about the dinosaurs and the taphonomy and the collagen and the soft tissue and all these things,

I think these things combined really land right on top of Noah's Flood as the best explanation for how these dinosaurs rapidly died out.

So I want to take about the last minute here and do a quick review of what happened after the Flood by looking at the dispersion of the people groups after the

Flood. We've all heard of the Tower of Babel event. It's in Genesis 10. It's when they said, well, you know, we want to ignore

God. We don't want him to flood us out again. So we're going to build this huge tower. He'll never be able to flood us again.

We're going to build this giant tower. We're going to be our own gods. And God said, I don't really like that idea.

And he dispersed them around the world. So they're building this big tower. And then you have Shem, Ham, and Japheth, the three sons of Noah.

And they have kids, and those kids have kids, and those kids have kids. And you've got a huge population or so, about 100 years or so after the

Flood. And then that people group, where they're around, around the Tower of Babel, which we now know is at a location called

Eridu, they were commanded by God to split and go around into 70 different people groups, and they dispersed around the world.

When they did that, they brought in, they brought whatever gene set that they happened to have within their group of the 70 different language groups that were spread around the world, and they went all over the world.

So Acts 17 even says that God made from one man every nation of mankind to live on the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation.

Isn't that amazing? It was by God's design to spread the people around after the Tower of Babel. So you look at something like race groups, and it absolutely destroys it.

Genesis 10 annihilates racism, or anyone who thinks that they could have any racist tone, because we all go back to Noah, and before that, it goes back to Adam.

Adam and Eve had probably olive -colored skin, and all the genetic variability was put into them to later go all the way down and pass down to Noah and all the way down.

So that's why we can have an African -American mom and a white dad have kids that even come out white or a little bit darker on the skin tone.

Melanin is just a pre -programmed adaptability that God put in our gene pool so that when we lived in different regions, we could regulate things like vitamin

D and things like that. So it's all by God's design, and in my opinion, from a scientific standpoint, really wipes out the idea of racism.

So what about the evidence for the Tower of Babel? Do we have any of that? So here's a model of what the

Tower of Babel might have looked like. This guy Nick just published a book called The Echoes of Ararat.

He went around America and in other regions and interviewed ancient cultures and found flood story after flood story after flood story that echoed after the

Babel event. In fact, if you start at Eridu, which was where the Tower of Babel was, each circle that you see here as we zoom out is where an ancient flood myth or legend resides that echoes what happened during the flood or at Babel.

The Native American groups are filled with ancient legends, oral history. They talk about things like this chief

Noah, who was in a big canoe that took all the animals laying on top of a mountain and let go of a white bird.

Some of the stories are uncanny, they'll give you goosebumps. But hundreds and hundreds of stories worldwide that talk about Noah's flood like that.

So we'll conclude with this. This is what Jesus said about the flood. He says, but of the day and the hour, he's talking about the end times and the coming of the

Son of Man, no one knows, but not even the angels of heaven, but my Father only. But as the days of Noah were, so also will be the coming of the

Son of Man be. For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and given in marriage until the day that Noah entered the ark and did not know until the flood came and took them all away.

So also will be the coming of the Son of Man. So I think there's a couple observations for this.

Number one, Jesus just stamped and confirmed the tour that we took. He confirmed that Noah's flood is a real thing that swept away all the people.

And the second observation is that there was only one door on the ark, and there's only one door, one way to God, which is through Christ.

The Bible's very, very clear about that. So if you haven't settled out on the salvation story yet, consider this, that there is lots of evidence that gives credibility to God's Word, and there's one door on the ark, and there's one way to get to heaven and one way to God, and that's through Christ.

Okay, I will stop right there. So all right. So I know the next talk is at seven, so you're free to leave if you guys would like, but I will stay here to answer questions.