Mark 16:16 | Baptism = Salvation?

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What about Mark 16 16 which which clearly says my friend?

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Okay, you know, mr Apologetic dog chew on this. All right, mark 16 16.

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All right whoever believes and is Baptized will be saved but whoever does not believe will be

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Condemned. Okay again, it's a nice flowery explanation you gave but it seems like you are

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Adding to the text when the text clearly says look right whoever believes and is

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Baptized but whoever does not believe will be condemned. I mean, it seems like you are adding to the

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Word of God Mr. Dog That's what

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I would get is that's not what it says that's not what says and we're saying timeout we're talking about its meaning

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Yeah, that's all right, that's why I'm trying my best impression you're doing great so I have two different answers depending on Well, I guess you're your context.

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We got to make sure we read the whole verse Right because Church of Christ are really good at proof texting.

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We got a list here They will say all day long whoever believes and coordinating conjunction is

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Baptized will be saved But whoever does not believe will be condemned

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There's the key right It's the believing and the unbelieving or not believing is what saves and condemns when you let the whole verse speak

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Okay. Now we still have a gift given account for and is baptized Well, it doesn't equally say whoever does not believe and is not baptized will be condemned

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You could say whoever believes and goes to church will be saying that's what Christians do Whoever believes and reads their

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Bible will be saved. That's it's indicative It's showing what believers do and we know that it's the the not believing is what's gonna ultimately end up in our

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Being condemned. Dr. White would take a different approach and says bro, this is the longer ending of Mark shouldn't be there and I was gonna ask you about that.

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I was wondering if We should mention the textual variant issue because it opens up a whole can of worms that you may not want to sidetrack

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You know the discussion but absolutely because if you start talking about textual criticism with the

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Church Christ who wants nothing to do with church history and and The manuscript tradition of how

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God has preserved his word what you immediately get is Oh, you're just trying to take out Bible passages that you don't like I have heard on one occasion a

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Church of Christ preacher Understand that and not want to camp out on Mark 16 16, but overall

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I would say look you you have enough context clues to explain the verse and Something that Stephen Boyce has pointed out.

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I told him I loved him saying this is I believe historically Jesus probably said those words at the end of John's gospel

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He said and did so many things that aren't written in the Bible If they were recorded the whole world couldn't even contain these things

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So the fact that this is trying to make it into the manuscript tradition along with you know That passage in John 8 1st

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John 5 7 of all these other ones These this specifically was probably said and comes out, you know, or through oral tradition that comes back in the text

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But when you're in when you're talking with Church of Christ, I would say Treat this verse historically as though Jesus said it because he probably did and this verse gives us enough context to actually explain the meaning