November 23, 2018 Show with Rev. Bill Shisko on “Developing Regional Home Missionary Work & Radio Ministries” PLUS Margaret Shisko on “The Need for Hospitality in the Homes of Christians”

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Bill Shishko on Regional Home Missionary Work and Radio Ministry

Good afternoon, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, Lake City, Florida, and the rest of humanity living on the planet Earth who are listening via live streaming at ironsharpensironradio .com. This is Chris Arntzen, your host of Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, wishing you all a happy Friday on this day after Thanksgiving, November 23rd, 2018.

And I'm so delighted to have two people on this program today, one per hour, whom I love very dearly. First we're going to have Pastor Bill Shushko, who is director of Reformation Metro New York and the host of the weekly talk radio show, A Visit to the Pastor's Study.

He's going to be addressing developing regional home missionary work and radio ministries. And for the second hour, we're going to be discussing with his wife, Margaret Shushko, the need for hospitality in the homes of Christians.

But it is my honor and privilege to welcome you back to Iron Sharpens Iron Radio the day after Thanksgiving, my friend Bill Shushko.

Hey, Chris.

That's right, they do. And I happen to be personally, I have firsthand knowledge of the gift of hospitality that your precious bride has, because I have stayed in your home and you have given me the open invitation whenever I'm on Long Island to stay there.

And I really appreciate that more than words can describe, brother.

Well, I will.

Well, it usually has to do with geographic reasons where I have to be at a conference and I prefer being there like five minutes away, if at all possible.

Yeah, sure.

Well, I want to give our listeners just a little bit more background about you because they may be, even some of your friends may be unfamiliar with some of your background. Pastor Bill Shushko professed to be an atheist during the late 1960s counterculture days.

He converted through a Christian radio program while working in radio in 1970. He gave up full scholarship to go to law school and attended a Christian college from 1970 -1974 and graduated school 1974 -1976.

He continued to do radio things in college years. He also met the woman who would become his wife on June 5th, 1976. Bill Shushko attended Westminster Seminary from 1976 -79, began hospitality ministries, which Margaret will discuss in the second hour.

His first pastorate was at McClellanville, South Carolina, the Jeremy Creek Reformed Presbyterian Church, in July 1979 through January of 1981. He did the first visit to the pastor's study programs on Saturday mornings from a radio station in North Charleston.

The second pastorate, where I got to know him, was at the Orthodox Presbyterian Church in Franklin Square, Long Island, New York, from February 1981 through June of 2016. I can't believe it's been two years already that you retired from that ministry.

Pastor Bill did a visit to the pastor's study programs periodically on WMCA, where I was employed for 15 years, and other radio things. Pastor Bill Shushko became regional home missionary for Presbytery of Connecticut and Southern New York for the Orthodox Presbyterian Church beginning in September of 2016.

A visit to the pastor's study is part of his weekly ministry. First of all, if you could start off with Pastor Bill, how did you get the idea of doing.

This as a part of your regional home missionary work? I'm very thankful to God that you have.

Done that, and I'm sure quite a number of your listeners are equally blessed and thankful to our Lord for that providentially. How did the Lord provide for you to do this. In such an expensive radio market, meaning New York and the tri-state area, it is quite cost prohibitive.

I know that personally, being in the radio industry. If you could tell us about that.

And you simulcast on Redeemer Broadcasting. Right, exactly right, Redeemer Broadcasting, which I commend to your listeners. Now, what was your format for the first two years of.

A visit to the pastor's study? Tell us about some of the programs that you had. Well, as.

My dear brother Chris, doing that Chris, Geiger of Harvest World magazine has been downloaded by children that were born. Yeah, and one of my favorite hobbies is stealing your guests and.

Interviewing them. I wouldn't borrow Chris, we borrow from one another. But I have had wonderful interviews myself with some of the guests that you've mentioned, hopefully I'll get around to interviewing all of the same people that you've interviewed.

Rosaria Butterfield obviously stands out as a really precious gift of the body of Christ. Quite a fascinating story that she has being a self-professed leftist and lesbian in the academic realm, a tenured professor, I believe it was Syracuse University where she was a professor.

And then abandoning all of that and being transformed so vibrantly by the power of Christ. Yeah, one of my favorite guests that I've borrowed from you is Pastor Lowell Ivey, a former white supremacist gang member who was saved by the grace and mercy of Christ in prison.

And I was so blessed to know that he benefited greatly, he told me he really benefited enormously from reading the publications of Solid Ground Christian Books, the book ministry founded by a mutual friend of ours, Mike Gaydosh, my very first pastor, who actually was the pastor who invited you to speak at what was then called Calvary Baptist Church of Amityville where I met you.

Pastor Ivey is going to be on next Saturday, this is going to be the third interview with Pastor Ivey. I'm sorry, not next Saturday. I am confusing it with a visit to the past. That's right, I am. Lowell is going to be on this Monday, the 26th of November for the third time already, and I am assuming, I am hoping that he'll be on many times more after that,.

But quite a fascinating brother. Yeah, well like you.

I've got to get him on the program of Iron Truckman's Iron. That sounds fascinating. As you know, church discipline is something near and dear to my heart because I believe it saved my own life when I never reached the point of excommunication, but I would have if I had not followed the steps required of my elders at Grace Reform Baptist Church of Long Island to be restored to fellowship.

You were with me through thick and thin during that period of time and I will appreciate that for the rest of my life more than I can possibly describe to you. I still remember a classic thing that you said to me that could best be said by a Presbyterian, I think, when you came to pick me up in my hotel room and you saw the wine that I was drinking.

You were not only upset that I had returned to drinking, being an alcoholic before I was saved, you said, it's not just that you're drinking excessively and sinning and drunkenness,.

But you're drinking bad wine. But if I didn't, that really impacted the churches are meant to be.

Praise God. We're going to our first station break right now and if you would like to join us on the air with a question for Pastor Bill Shishko of Reformation Metro New York and a visit to the pastor's study, our email address is chrisarnsen at gmail .com.

Please give us at least your first name, your city and state of residence, and your country of residence if you live outside the USA. Please only remain anonymous if your question involves a personal and private matter and I could readily understand having a pastor as a guest or at least a retired pastor who is.

Still involved in ministry. Don't say I'm retired. I'm a false witness against your neighbor.

I think I said retired from the pastoral ministry. Is that accurate? Yeah, that's, well, yes and no.

Yeah, right. Well, I'm doing pastoral ministry in a little different way.

Well, I'm retired from the pastoral ministry at the Orthodox Presbyterian. There you go. Okay, that's okay. But I could readily see somebody wanting to ask a personal and private question and remain anonymous.

But if other than that, please give us your first name, city and state and country of residence. Don't go away. God willing, we'll be right back with Pastor Bill Shishko of Reformation Metro New York and a visit to the pastor's study.

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Welcome back. This is Chris Arnzen. If you just tuned us in, our guest today for the first hour with about a little less than a half hour to go is Pastor Bill Shishko of the Reformation Metro, New York, and also host of the weekly radio broadcast, A Visit to the Pastor Study.

If you'd like to join us, we are discussing developing regional home missionary work in radio ministries, and our number is 631 -291 -7002. 631 -291 -7002. Before I go to some more questions of my own, I just wanted to get a couple of our listeners' questions covered.

We have Bobby in Hartsdale, New York, who asks, it's so difficult to get unknown men of God that truly have a voice and a gift that should be known globally on major radio and television networks. How do you stick in there and convince people to help support financially what you're doing?

Because it has been very difficult for me, not that I am trying to get myself on the air, but I'm trying to get other local pastors that are so powerful and so gifted that they should be known in.

Households all over this country and abroad. And I could also chime in from my own experience.

Working in radio since the 1980s. I have successfully created two radio programs. Neither are on the air right now, the ones I'm speaking of, that is. But if you can find enough congregations who are willing to chip in financially to get a radio program launched that expresses and declares and defends and teaches the same doctrine that all of these congregations would have a passion for, you could even do a search nationwide for congregations in your own denomination or fellowship that may want to contribute to airing a program.

You may remember because you were a part of it, I created in the 1990s the Voice of Sovereign Grace. And I got that on the air by getting many congregations involved. And we had at one time five churches that actually hosted the program, including the Orthodox Presbyterian Church of Franklin Square.

Well, I'll very quickly get it out of the way. We do have, let's see here, Susan Margaret in Dauphin County, Pennsylvania. And she says, I do not mean this as a criticism to either you, Chris, or your guests, but there are churches that use radio and television as a substitute for membership and attendance at a local Bible-believing church.

What words of loving.

Criticism can you offer to those who are doing that? Well, I appreciate that question. Susan Margaret, let's move on to some changes that are taking place with a visit to the pastor study. Yeah, it fits really with your...

By the way, I'm delighted that you are working on a mission church.

In the North Babylon, Deer Park, Long Island area, because I am unaware of any reformed works in those areas. And this will be a joy to have that added to Long Island, if indeed the Lord is pleased to bring that to fruition.

Well, what's amazing is that in Deer Park area, there...

Well, definitely. Keep me updated on that, because we want to have you back and anyone else who might be involved in leadership, if that North Babylon, Deer Park area congregation takes off.

My dear brother, we've been working together for a long time.

I mean, me neither, and an encouraging word to hear. What kinds of questions do you get from listeners on the visit to the pastor study?

This, Chris, and then I'll have another one that we really... There will be opposition.

We do have Ronald in Eastern Suffolk County, Long Island, New York, who says, can you please comment on the two rather disturbing trends I see amongst our fellow Reformed brethren? One seems to be a growing phenomenon that involves ecumenism with Rome and neglecting the seriousness of the chasm of difference we have in the gospel itself.

And the other one is involving a hyper-covenantal understanding of baptism that would say that anyone who is baptized in the name of the Father and Son and the Holy Ghost should be identified as a true regenerate Christian.

Is. Well, finally, I want to know if you are planning on continuing the health program that was attached to the visit to the pastor study, known as HealthWise.

No, we're not. We're actually doing the last program. Now you're going to want your time.

Of course, because I want as many of the Iron Sherpins Iron Radio listeners to become a part of your audience if they haven't already. I already know that many are because they report back to me how much they enjoy your show.

Yes, you did. And I am so delighted that you came on today. I'm looking forward to many future visits from you. And I'm also very much looking forward to my very first interview with your precious bride, Margaret, in the second hour.

You'll be blessed by it.

And I'm sure you have. And thank you very much, brother. And we look forward to hearing from you soon.

Thanks, Chris. The Lord's blessing, my brother. Press on in the good work.

Thank you, brother.

So long now.

Don't go away, folks. Because as I just said, Pastor Bill Shishko's wife, Margaret Shishko, is going to be joining us in just about 12 minutes or so. She is going to be talking about the necessity of hospitality in the homes of Christians.

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Margaret Shishko on Hospitality in Christian Homes

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Practical Ways to Practice Hospitality Without a Large Home

Welcome back. We are going to be joining in a moment our second guest for the day, Margaret Shishko, who happens to be the wife of our first guest, Reverend Bill Shishko, and Margaret is going to be speaking on the need for hospitality in the homes of Christians.

But before we go to Margaret, we just have a few announcements about some upcoming events that we hope that you will attend, all of you or as many of you as possible in the Iron Sharpens Iron Radio audience.

I will be at all of these events, God willing, and I hope to meet you there. First of all, this first invitation is only for the men in the audience, men in leadership in your congregations or parachurch ministries, whether you be a pastor, elder, deacon, or a parachurch ministry leader.

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