Science and Scripture and the Age of the Earth

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Historicity and the credibility of God's Word going back from the beginning So if I I don't have a

Bible prop with me here today but if I were to hold up a Bible and flip it towards the back and talk about the book of Revelation we know that Daniel and Isaiah and Revelation talks about all things and Times.

Well, how do we know that those things in the end times are going to be coming to pass? Well, we know it because we can flip turn to the front side of the

Bible and talk about all things Alpha all things beginning and if I can help assure you today that the things in the beginning of our history are true

How more how much more than can we trust the things in the ending of times? So I want to help prove you guys today that God got it right at the beginning because he's also going to get it right at the end

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God without ceasing because when you received the Word of God Which you heard from us you welcomed it not as the

Word of men But as it is in truth the Word of God which also effectively works in you who believe

To see that there is a condition there if you want the Word of God to effectively work in your life

You have to believe it's the Word of God not the Word of men So there is a there is a condition there

So I'm here today to encourage everyone here today to have a allow the Word of God to Effectively work in your life to produce fruit by believing.

It's the Word of God not the Word of men If we look at the book of Genesis It wants to grow roots in your heart and your soul and your mind and if you allow that you're going to be a

Christian who has Roots that will have turn into fruit because if you want to have good fruit

You have to have a good root system because a root system is what's going to produce the good fruit

But what's happening a lot today with the teens particularly in school is their root system start to go down But then they hit history channel and discovery channel and 250 pages of evolution teaching in secular schools

And their root system tries to go down, but these tentacles start hitting all these blocks like oh, what about Charles Darwin that you know?

Dr. G did did a great job today debunking Charles Darwin's ideas of natural selection

And what about deep time or millions of years and what about the ape man of human evolution? It sure seems that they have a compelling story that we evolve from ape like creatures

So what's happening is people we want to develop roots in God's Word But when we get indoctrinated with the ideas of the world the root systems hit a blockage they stop and if they're gonna stop like that and we're not gonna trust the book of Genesis and then the rest of this the

Other 65 books in the Bible our fruit system is going to be hampered So I would argue here today that there's a connection between our roots and our fruit

So that's what we want it to look like is we want you to have big thick roots that have a tap root that goes

All the way down and roots that go wide and roots that go deep, but it really starts with the book of Genesis So who is your authority are we going to you know

If you take any time to go look at movies and TV TV shows and Discovery Channel and Nova There's a lot to be said about the age of the earth

And where did the earth come from and how old is it and when did the dinosaurs of all? Well, we can either trust man's word on those things and we can trust

God's Word on those things because God's Word is very clear Some people say well the Bible doesn't talk about dinosaurs.

Well. Yes, it does It talks about dinosaurs are very expressed for terms In fact, the long longest description that God ever gives of any creature

Though there's two of them and Job chapter 40 and 41 happen to be two dinosaurs and God gives 13 characteristics about behemoth and about 16 characteristics about Leviathan and express form and explains that this creature is grand and Magnificent and even describes behemoth as the first or the chief of all of his created things

So God's Word is very clear. It speaks about the age of the earth It speaks about the days of creation and it speaks about dinosaurs.

So God's Word is not going to change but man's word is going to change all of the time

So where would your roots rather be in would you rather have your roots tied into something? That's never gonna change.

It's gonna be true all the way back to the beginning. We've never changed God's Word We have it today and at least 99 % of the cohesive delivery from the original authors.

We've got the Word of God It hasn't changed It's going to be consistent through time but man's word is going to change all the time if you were to just take one topic like our topic today on the age of The earth and if you were to go through about 20 year intervals going back through time 20 years 20 years 20 years 20 years

You're gonna find in almost one every one of those 20 -year hops a different idea about the age of the earth

It's gonna go back and back and back You're gonna get dozens of different beliefs through time over the age of the earth, but God's Word has always been consistent

So let's talk a little bit about science because if we were to have secularists here today

They would say well we believe in the age of the earth because of science. So science true science

Observational science has six different steps that you have to take to draw meaningful conclusions that it can be reliable and testable

You have to make some observations develop some questions or theories and formulate some hypotheses

Develop testable predictions gather data and develop new theories or confirm those series and then go back and make some more

Observations of all those six steps. You can't do six of them when it comes to the age of the earth

You can't go back and observe or test or repeat the age of the earth is based on theories and assumptions there's no way we can go back a hundred years or a thousand years and Validate and confirm things like radiometric dating to make sure it's working back

Then with the parent and daughter isotopes that we use for for the dating in the same way. It's working today

So I would argue that the age of the earth is based upon Assumptions and so when

I was a testifying expert witness in state and federal court cases for about 20 years I have a

PhD in the behavioral sciences And I would always be challenged when I would go into court when

I would go into court the opposing attorney will say well Dr. Biddle, isn't it true that you've got all this data from the plaintiff or the defense?

This is Jeff. We've got the data and then dr. Bill you did a bunch of analyses, right? Yes, I've did a bunch of analyses and did you develop any conclusions from those analyses?

Yep, I've got got the data I did analyses and I drew all kinds of conclusions and the smart attorneys would say this

Well, dr. Biddle, isn't it true that if your assumptions about the data and about your analyses are wrong?

Then your findings are also wrong and I would say yes, of course so the smart attorneys would start here on the assumptions and the

Interpretations regarding the data and the analyses and you guys if we can't go back to prove that the earth is 4 .5

billion years old. It's not like you're gonna hear on history and Discovery Channel and all the secular different resources

There's no way to go back and validate that and verify that So that's why we have observational science, which is the true science

That's how we make new medicines and put people in airplanes and do biological research everything

That's based upon things we can observe tests see repeat in today's world But when it comes to the theory of evolution, it's all based on interpretations and in some assumptions and what we call in science as Inferential leaps where you have to take an inference and jump with it.

You have to go into a belief system Back into times that you can't tell so when we find these fossils people will use

Imagination about what these creatures might have looked like and when we find fossils They don't come with a date tag on them saying creature died, you know, forty three thousand years ago

We have to use assumptions in our analyses to think when that creature might have died So that leads us to these two different world views

We can either view the same data that we have we have we all have the earth we can view it through man's theories and come up with man's conclusions that there's no

God and history includes millions or billions of years or we can view it through the

Bible where we have about 6 ,000 years worth of history to look through so we have secular history biblical history

But no, we all have the same data. We all have the same earth, but there's two different ways of looking at things or two different You know lenses naturalism or supernatural ism

So here's a famous meme that goes around social media and it's a really a good summary science real science

Has to be observable testable repeatable and falsifiable

When it comes to the theory of evolution, you can't do any of those four things If someone says well, we know evolution happened because this dinosaur died 65 million years ago.

Well, we weren't there We can't watch it. It's not testable. We can't go back and repeat it and it's not falsifiable

So real science when people say well, I believe because of evolution because of science just say well Is that observational science or historical science because historical sciences is where we fall down with all the assumptions?

Well, what about written history? Don't we have books and cuneiform writings and things like that that can take us back multiple thousands of years

Well, you guys know I spent some time in that research Tube that little tunnel went down that that path and found out some very very interesting things by asking a leading history expert at the

British the British Museum In fact the top the lead dog over all their cuneiform collections and I said this

What is the oldest writing we can date without having to use carbon -14 dating because any scientist worth his salt?

Knows that carbon -14 has dating has issues and challenges because it has assumptions and that's why good

Archaeologists that are well studied in their trade. They'll only use carbon -14 dating as a thumbnail idea

It'll tell you but some things that are older than newer But when you convert the relative dates into absolute dates is when you're gonna have to start taking some assumptions

So I just pinned this guy down and I said tell me how far back you can go in history without Using carbon -14 dating with all of its assumptions and sometimes it's faulty conclusions and he says well that that's easy

He says for cuneiform. We can securely date using a solar eclipse observed in 763

BC and that's because we know there was a solar eclipse People watched it and they wrote about it.

So it was validated We can confirm we've got writing back about 2 ,700 years nice lockstep

Before that he says we rely on less secure methods such as historical records of various sorts that gets us back to about 1 ,400

BC. So now we're about 3 ,400 years back before that We are less sure still there are periods of time of known length that float in uncertain relationship to each other

So if I were to pull up a panel here about of a hundred different Archaeologists and ask them how far back can we go on written history?

You're gonna get answers that range between three thousand and five thousand years of written history

Before you're gonna have to start saying well We know they wrote on this because carbon -14 dating says it's 6 ,000 years old or however old they might say but isn't it interesting here that the director of the

British Museum on the cuneiform collection says we've got about 3 ,400 years of confirmed history

So what about the Egyptians and what about the pyramids and what about this cuneiform writing and what about the

Chinese? We know that they wrote on the underside of turtle shells So they had some history that went back way way far we can chase those

Those Chinese dynasties back about 4 ,000 years. Well, it is true that some

Populations some different groups in history have ancient writing that goes well back

BC The Samaritan Samaritans is the oldest we've got an Egyptian medical a medical document that goes back about 3 ,500 years and the

Hittites and the ancient Greece But you know when you go beyond that time zone you have to really

Depend on faith and when it goes back into times beyond, you know

Say three four or five thousand years Are we going to rely on man's word or God's word when it goes back to those ancient times in the past?

Here's what it looks like on a graph. So Today we've got observational science and if we go look at the present and that's a thousand years ago and about the time of Christ and then 6 ,000 years of history the further

Back we go in time the less certainty we have because we know with really good certainty what happened with World War one

There was a movie that just came out about it. We've got all kinds of data We know what firearms they use you can go back there and find shell casings.

We know from political documents We have really good iron ironclad history with observational science

I think we even have some videos and some some pictures back then we know what happened in World War one It was a pretty good clear evidence about that.

What about the Vikings if we go back a thousand years ago? I've done some research and into that we've got some

Norwegian ancestry I've been back to Norway a few times and you know It starts getting a little bit messy and muddled with respect to the history of the

Vikings We know of certain battles that happened at 1066 and some other battles and we know some monasteries that were raided

But as far as all the unique details and the nuances it starts getting a little bit gray a little bit opaque

We know some some main things that happen. What about back to the birth of Christ now? We're going back about 2 ,000 years lots of good history there, too

But the further we go back to like ancient Egypt ancient China our confidence starts going down With respect to knowing all the true historical things that happen and when they happen

So the further back we go in time the less confidence we're going to have and that's because it's going to start requiring faith as to what happened in the ancient past and you're gonna have to Start making lots and lots of assumptions

So when we go back this far, are we going to rely on man's interpretation of the past or God who was there and God?

Had eyewitnesses there and when it gets to time before the flood and the time of creation

Only God was the eyewitness We know he created over six days because God was the only eyewitness and he told us what he did

By giving that information to Adam that was passed down through all the patriarchs to today

But wait a second if you're a secularist here today, and you don't necessarily believe in this stuff

They would say well we know for sure that the earth is 4 .5 billion years old because we have this we have

Radiometric dating and we can take elements like uranium and see how fast it decays today in today's laboratories into things like lead or Argonne to Argonne or there's all kinds of different dating methods

We can take information into a lab today and we can date it But there's all kinds of different assumptions that you have to believe are valid and not violated when it comes to dating

Using radiometric dating. Here's one framework one different way of looking at those assumptions, and I'll show you another one next

So the first assumption is the original number of unstable atoms can be known

That's called the parent element the assumption too is that we know that the rate of decay or how fast

The the things would change from a parent element to a daughter element was going to remain constant over the years

Do we really know that the rate of radiometric decay is the same as it is today? As it was a hundred years ago or a thousand years ago

No, we certainly don't because we can't go back in time And the third assumption is the daughter atoms were all produced by radioactive decay

Here's another way of looking at it If we have a stack of rocks what they do is they can't go back and date the rocks

They'll date the ash layers between the rocks and that's how we can in fact today distinguish between like the

Jurassic layers and the Cretaceous layers because we can consistently go and a lot of places around the world and we can date the ash

Between these layers and say well this layer of ash is older than this layer of ash

That's what they can know for certain about the dates is that it appears for radiometric dating that this is old and the new stuff

On top is new These are these are reasonable assumptions if you look at the Relative dating because we know that stack was laid down first and that stack was next and that stack is next because they're like a

Stack of pancakes with one layer built up on top of the other ones So stack one stack two stack three it goes up It's a pretty reasonable assumption to believe that these things were laid down in a certain order

But when so we have a really high likelihood of that going on but when it comes to converting that into the

Absolute years like if that's the top of the Cretaceous or 65 million years ago, then we get back into the older layers

That's what's called absolute dating and to get to the absolute dating. They have to use this formula

So I won't spend too much time on the formula, but look at the formula here It's time equals these factors here

And here's what they these the definitions time is the age of the rock D stands for daughter atoms today

P is the parent atoms today Ln is the logarithm and the lambda is the estimated decay constant

But all of these things in this formula depend on three things. We have to know the starting parent and daughter amounts

We have to know that the decay is a hundred percent radioactive decay And it's not decaying for some other reason and that it has a constant decay rate

There's not a scientist in the world that can stand up here in this stage and say we know for sure those absolute dates are correct because they have to go through a vetting of assumptions and all the conclusions that they have about the age of the earth are based on those layers of Assumptions and you can't go back and prove the assumptions

So those are some of the challenges with radioimetric dating now I'm going to go through and show you some evidence that their assumptions are in fact

Actually faulty and wrong when it comes to the age of the earth. Let's start here locally in Reading Let's go to the place called the

Ono Formation. I went there with Pastor Al Franklin a few years ago. It's a famous geological formation

That's it's not too far from you. You can you can drive and you find things like this you find Concretions you find all these ammonites that are rolled up.

You can find shark teeth all kinds of fish It's a huge mud roll -up area. That's flood related

It's kind of difficult to know when it happened during the flood But you can also find so we've got this mud that they can date because there's ash inside these mud layers

You've got ammonites and you've got petrified wood Well, what happens if you take these three different things into a radiometric dating lab and date them?

Well, it will say that the mud is a hundred and ten million years old but inside of that mud is our ammonites that range between 36 ,000 years old to 48 ,000 years old for ammonites that are right next to each other

You can take one ammonite send it in and it will say I was 36 ,000 years old based upon carbon dating you take the sister

Ammonite that's two feet away that will come back at 48 ,000 years old And then if you go date the petrified wood, it says well that's between 32 ,000 years old and 42 ,000 years old all for petrified wood that's within inches of the ammonites that you find

So one stack of rocks three different dating systems or three three different dating outcomes

One that's 110 million years old some that's 36 ,000 to 48 ,000 some that's 32 ,000 to 42 ,000

Well, if you just use logic it would say well two of the three dates Could be incorrect and one is correct or all three dates are incorrect because it's the same

Formation formed at the same time with the ammonites and the petrified wood box boxed right next to it so that's an example where you can go not too far from here and Find one strata with three different eight

Age dates that you can choose from well if we went up a little bit more north to Mount st

Helens which blew its cork in the 1980s. That's what it looked like I remember when that happened it was basically turned three states dark for for about three days an amazing thing that happened

Well, we know what when Mount st Helens blew up out of this lava dome you can go there after the explosion and Scientists went and they grabbed a site rock which was formed out of the volcano.

It's igneous rock They took it into a lab dated it using five different methods and that the rocks which we saw get formed with our own very eyes in the 1980s came back dating between 2 .8

million years 1 .7 million years 900 ,000 years in the earliest was 200

I think 280 ,000, but this just about 340 ,000 so it's a 30 year old rock that we knew got formed in the 1980s

We watched it for goodness sake with her own very eyes and you take that 10 -kilogram rock of day site into a lab with five different methods and it says it's millions of years old

Well, it's not just Mount st Helens this problem is prevalent all over the place if you go to different Different lava places like you've got this basalt in Hawaii Well, we know this rock was formed during an eruption in in 1959 it dates to 8 .5

million years old It should come back at 50 years old But it's not it comes back at 8 .5

million years old because see I'm a rational guy I spent 20 years testifying about evidence

And if you want to validate the evidence you have to take two different methods that will confirm each other and go confirm it so the way to confirm and validate

Radiometric dating is give me the rock that you watched Explode 50 years ago that you walk get and watch to get birth right out of the ground

And when it hardened you take that rock into a lab, and it should give me a value of what 50 years old

What about 500 years ago? I could go to a people group that wrote down on Parchments or 500 years ago say yep

I'm watching this volcano blow up right now in front of me and it just buried my grandma's hut and you can take that Writing with the rock that's 500 years old you should be able to take it into a lab

And it should come back at 500 years old But it doesn't they always come back millions and millions and millions of years old in fact

I was on an online debate lunch With the geologist who regarded me as a kindergartner.

He's like dr. Biddle. I can't even believe you're arguing this stuff We know earth is old because I've got 5 ,000 geology books in my library

And they all show the data that the earth is old and I said well gosh that that's that's great if you've got 5 ,000 geology books just show me one that has a study where the observed date of a rock

Matches the radiometric day age of a rock Seems like a pretty reasonable request because if we could take a 200 years old rock and take it into a lab

It should say 200 years old and he couldn't find a single one and so it's not just why he goes all over over the world

Here's Italy with the erupted in a in 1963 the rocks dated to 2 .5

or 2 .4 million years old should be 50 years old But that's they missed it by 2 .3 999 million years

Another one in Sicily the rocks were formed in 1964 they dated to 700 ,000 years who exaggerated the dates by 14 ,000 times

Here's a list of several other situations where the radiometric age always

Overshoots a known age of a rock So this is what I'm saying about the assumptions that people take with respect to radiometric dating

So when it comes to thinking about radiometric dating if we take samples of a known age

Like we knew the rock was formed in 1960 or 1980 or whatever it was and radiometric

Dating doesn't work. Then. Why do we trust it for rocks of an unknown age? Think about this for a second.

That's what's going on in the world We know that radiometric dating does not work for samples of known ages

So why do we infer that it should work for rocks of unknown ages? I?

Would much rather trust God's Word because he was a witness and he was there. He knows how he created when and why now when it comes to other geochronometers, yes, there's all kinds of other ways to do a

Dating with the earth there's answers in Genesis is produced over 50 here and all of these different Alternative ways of dating earth shows that earth is thousands of years old not millions and not billions of years old

So you can take any one of these different methods here 90 % of them produce ages that are in the thousands or millions certainly not billions.

Well, let's address the core issue What about radiocarbon dating because that's used a lot

Christians use it archaeological Researchers use it. But did you know in the 1980s that the

British Research Council got so frustrated with all these? different dates coming in from radiocarbon dating because radiocarbon only happens with organic materials you should be able to take like a cloth a piece of Leather or or things of that sort and you go out and send it to an agent comes back

You can put it out it to an accelerator mass Spectrometer and it will come back with an age that they say can work for up to 60 ,000 years and some of the most advanced techniques

Well in the 1980s the British Research Council got so frustrated because they were getting all these different ages from these different labs

That they did a blind study where they took Items of known ages that were hundreds of years old and they sent it out to 38

Different carbon -14 dating labs around the world. Do you know how many of them got it?

Right? Only seven were even close Every other radiocarbon

Dating lab got it wrong wildly wrong by hundreds of years or thousands of years

So think about that you take a piece of leather, you know from archaeology It's eleven hundred and fifty years old or whatever

It was they do a blind study send it up to 38 labs around the world and only seven of them get it

The rest of them produce dates that were all over the place not very reliable testing methods

So we also have carbon -14 and dinosaur bones So if dinosaur bones really represent creatures that died out 65 million years ago

Why don't they have carbon -14 in them? But study after study shows Dinosaurs have carbon -14

We also have carbon -14 and coal that's supposed to be millions and millions of years old

So you take all these coal beds and coal layers around the world You take the coal send it in for carbon -14 dating and it comes back and says yep

There's detectable amounts of carbon -14 in them But you shouldn't have any detectable carbon -14 if it's if it's older than 60 ,000 years

Same thing with diamonds diamonds are supposed to be millions or billions of years old and we find carbon -14 and diet and diamonds

Why does this happen? Well, did you know that if you were to take a solar flare that happens on the

Sun the Sun? That that can even change the carbon -14 ratios that we go do in a study so there's one solar flare that flares up your carbon -14 is messed up for that era things like the

Electromagnetic pole between Earth and and the Sun and the way that the moon interacts with that that can also change radiometric or carbon -14 dating when they blew up an atom bomb in the 1950s that doubled the amount of carbon -14 in the atmosphere

So now they can't even date to anything beyond 1950 They call it years before present

But they only dated up to 1950 because they know when they were doing all the atomic bomb testing it doubled the amount of carbon -14

So do we know for sure that there's nothing else like that naturally going on for thousands of years back?

No, certainly we we don't we can't prove that assumption even a forest fire Will mess up carbon -14 dating or a volcanic explosion can mess up carbon -14 dating

So there's assumption after assumption after assumption that you have to believe in to rely on carbon -14 dating even when they were producing clay plates and things like that during the

Industrial Revolution that also altered carbon -14 dating So when it comes to having faith about the age of the earth, we can either trust man's word by going back you know for however many thousands of years you want to take that journey or you can just take a right and go to Genesis's history and believe in the the truth that we have in God's Word So let's talk about that About this the significance of this of this whole conversation.

Is it really a big deal at all? Why do Christians have to be so fundamentally insistent about the age of the earth?

Well, I used to think that until I researched it myself a little bit. Here's your two big reasons why it matters

Number one if earth is old and you put death before sin it maligns the character of God Because God created everything over six literal days and stood back at at the end of his creation says behold that it's very good

And then he commanded Everything including plant all the animals and the humans to only eat green things

Only eat the green things that the garden is going to produce for you So you can't have millions of years of death sin and suffering and bloodshed

Before Adam and Eve were here to bring the fall that brought in those bad things so if we have six days of Perfect creation like the

Bible talks about and God saying it's very good after the seventh day and calling it good after each of the other six days

Well at some point after God created Adam and Eve the fall came and they ate from the forbidden fruit

And that's what brought death and that's very clear We have thorns and thistles in the fossil record because of that we have death because of that and that that would make

Theologically speaking if that's true like we believe it is This means that death and suffering are brought into the world by Adam and Eve sin

Not by God's original design and plan his original design and plan was eternity living in paradise

He gave us a choice we went against that choice and the result was to bring sin death and suffering into the earth

But if we believe that well Genesis is maybe not literal that we have creation We have with millions of years

But we already have death and sin and suffering and thorns and thistles in the fossil record because they believe these thorns are 200 million

Years old and we have all kinds of creatures that they would say are millions of years old all before Adam and Eve were here to bring death sin and suffering into the world

This is why it's it matters because it not you know Believing in an old earth really maligns the character of God that would make that the you know

If this is true the fall really had no effect because they were gonna die anyhow And they were standing on a heap worth of fossils

So we can't you know man's word is gonna say that death and time is going to produce The go over from here from like a rat like creature to a primate to quadrupeds

It's gonna lead to man, but God's word said no We started out perfectly as humans and it was sin that put us into the grave

So you really can't have a perfect paradise here where God says look at everything I made and it's good and you can't have

Adam and Eve sitting on millions of years of years of death pain suffering disease and Things like that.

It just does not make much sense biblically speaking So and that's because in Genesis 121

Everything that was under our Dominion where God says, you know Hey be fruitful and multiply fill the earth and subdue it have

Dominion over the fish of the sea over the birds of the air and Everything living thing that moves on the earth and even

Adam went and named the creatures taking Dominion over them when we fell Everything under that Dominion shield fell and that's why

Romans 8 says that all of creation now groans Under the weight of the sin and that sin started back in the garden

It was that sin that brought death sin and suffering to the world. So when we look at the the earth before The sin was brought into the before the fall

Everything ate was vegetarian. There was no death. No disease people and animals lived in harmony

We had male and female harmony. We were gardeners not farmers There was no pain in childbirth and rains and storm were different but after the fall things changed we had a carnivorous diet

Death disease people and animal were in disharmony male and female disharmony

Farming and we were farmers then not gardeners pain and childbirth and storms would even be different so I was asked to explain this to a group of college students that were being challenged for their faith at a college here in In California by some pastors that were trying to influence them to believe in the old earth and I started with this

I actually showed them a clip from this terrible video won't show it here You can find all kinds of stuff like this on YouTube if you want

But here's a YouTube video that says Komodo dragon attacks and eats a deer alive

It's a terrible video to watch the deer is there any suffering and he's screaming and these Komodo dragons

Just come and eat the thing while it's sitting there alive And I asked the people When did that happen?

And does that feel internally wrong that just kind of feels bad to you when you had to sit there and watch this poor deer

Get eaten alive. Well, is that part of God's initial design? And if not, when did it happen and you have people you guys?

Eternity is written in our hearts. We resonate with truth when we see that we it's you can't look at it

So it's just a cycle of life. No, it's not the cycle of life It's a circle of death and Adam and Eve are responsible for that terrible hideous thing there

So when we watch that we can say yeah, that's a fallen world. That's not the cycle of life That's a fallen world recycling itself because that's a terrible thing to happen to that animal and God said in Genesis 1

Everything's supposed to eat green herbs and the trees and the fruit don't eat each other But now these things are going on and it's because we brought death sin and suffering into the world

We can even look at bones nowadays It confirmed that there's cancer inside of bones.

And when did that happen? That's related to the fall We can even find dinosaurs that were in the process of fighting during Noah's flood when that whole thing went down So that's you know, we this is a snapshot

The flood provides a snapshot of what earth looked like before God sent the flood because God sent the flood because Violence was on the heart of man's at all time and the animals were no different all flesh on earth had gone

Gone evil. So let's look at some biblical reasons for a young earth and did you know that all through history if you go back and into Genesis and you take all the

Documents that we do have dating thousands of years old that we've taught and believed for Hundreds and hundreds of years and you know a couple thousand years, but even especially more recently they all typically believed in a young earth and then came the gap theory in 1804 and some other things like the day age theory in 1823 and what about the framework theory?

We've got progressive creation all these interesting new ideas are pretty much new some people will try to argue

Well, they talked about old earth back there, but it's really not true because if you take these 32 biblical chronologists

Through antiquity you go back for a couple thousand years and find out what did the scholars teach about the age of the earth?

Here's a chart with 32 of them and they all place the age of the earth between four and really six thousand years

It all starts here. Even God chose to make this clear with us using his own hands so Exodus says in Exodus 31 that there's only one small part of Scripture that God wrote with his own hands sure he

Channeled the rest of Scripture as men were carried about and directed by the Holy Spirit to write Scripture But there's one section of Scripture that God wanted it so to get right that he did it himself with his own hands

So watch a short video that explains that God's besides me

You shall not make for yourself a carved image. You shall not bow to them or serve them

You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain Remember the Sabbath day to keep it.

Holy So remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy. That's the summary of it

But what it says in its full length here is for in six days The Lord made the heavens and the earth and the sea and all that is in them and rested on the seventh day

Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath and hollow at it So here's some questions to think about because we know that God wrote that with his own hand for in six days

He created the heavens the earth the sea and all that is in them So let's just consider for a minute the communication involves a sender and a receiver in this situation

It was God who was a sender of the communication and the Israelites were the receiver God wrote this with his own hand on stone and are any of the other ten

Commandments metaphorical things like don't steal don't commit adultery. Don't lie.

Don't murder. No, they're all pretty pretty literal How could God have been more clear about the six days because what he said is he says look

Israelites I Created the earth in six days and I rested on the seventh and I want you to take that rhythm that cycle and do the same

Thing because God's saying I made you humans. I know that you need rest I want you to work six plus one day of rest and set up that cycle

So the first question is this what did God want the Israelites to believe about creation week?

And this is that this is the way that we handle a lot of the old earthers and day age people in the gap here

Because we get these questions all the time and I can honestly say without any pride

This is the most effective way to handle old earthers when they bring this up and I've yet to see anyone

Penetrate through the logic that's contained in these two questions get someone to just admit What did

God want the Israelites to believe? When he said he created everything in six days earth to see that happens that everything is in it and they'll have to say well

He wanted them to believe it was six days as they would understand six days And the second question is this does

God want you to believe something different and if they say yes It's because of what man says not because of what

God says because nowhere else in Scripture where you find those six days twisted or stretched Here's another way to look at it

And this again is I think to me if you're a rational person and you appreciate scholarship

There's no way out of this box. If someone says I don't believe the six days are literally six days

Approach them this way and say do you believe that God was capable of?

Creating the heavens and the sea and the earth and all that is in them and most people say yeah I believe God was capable of doing that and they say okay.

Well, let's break it down by these time intervals You've got seconds minutes hours days weeks months or years was

God capable of creating over any of these different time intervals And of course, they'll say yeah,

God could have done that But what did God say that he did? Well, he said he'd used days and he defined what a day was in Genesis 1 because he boxed a day in he defines a day in Genesis 1 14

Then he defines a day with evening morning day and number so God chose that Interval and not any other and if we go all through Scripture He was saying, you know hearing

God called the light day and the darkness He called night and the evening in the morning were the first day then we have the second day

He says evening morning second day evening morning third evening morning fourth How more clear could

God have been about the six days of creation? He wants us to understand that there are six ordinary days and that's because he boxed every single day in With the

Hebrew of evening morning day number evening morning day number for all six days. It's extremely extremely clear

So what about when the the term day or yom is used outside of Genesis?

Does it ever mean anything other than an ordinary day? Well, whenever it's used with a number which is 410 times

It always means an ordinary day when it's used with evening and morning together without day

It always means an ordinary day and that's 38 times 23 times evening or morning is used together with day and it always means an ordinary day and when night is used with day 52 times it always means an ordinary day

So what about this idea of the 6 ,000 years how can we be so sure from Scripture that earth is 6 ,000 years old

Well, we have it from the patriarchs you can just take Genesis chapter 5 and Genesis chapter 10 and get out a piece of paper or an

Excel and you can start Adding these years up because we find things like this Well Adam lived a hundred and thirty years and he begot a son in his own likeness

So was his child after his image and he named him Seth after he had Seth the days of Adam were 800 years so all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years old and he died and we can repeat this with all of the patriarchs that lived before the flood and after the flood so God gave us these

Chronologies and these genealogies so that we would know that we were put here just thousands of years ago

New weren't randomly created over over millions of years So when we add up all these years, which we can't because Adam lived 930 and Seth 912

We can add them all up and chase them down. You're gonna have a clock that goes back to creation about 6 ,000 years ago

Jesus referred back to the Old Testament 42 times and do you know that every single time?

Jesus referred back to the Old Testament. It was in a literal historical sense. You'll never find

Jesus pulling Metaphor out of Genesis. He treated as a literal history book and here's all the all the references

What about the rest of the New Testament writers? Well, here's a hundred and seven times that the

New Testament writers wrote about the book of Genesis and they always regarded it as a real literal history history books of Jesus referred to Genesis 42 times

New Testament writers 107 times and we never have it used in a metaphorical sense Now let's talk about one of my favorite proofs as a statistician and one who's worked with a lot with with math

You guys are gonna love this So put on your thinking caps with this because it does involve some some statistical math stuff

Just look at this for a minute. Look at this chart. So we have biblical lifespans. I just showed you that Adam lived 930 years and his son

Seth loved 912 years. Did you know that if you averaged up the lifespans of these ten pre -flood?

Patriarchs their average lifespans about nine hundred and twelve years Then God sent the flood about sixteen hundred or so years after creation and then look at their lifespans

After the flood they go down not suddenly They don't go from an average of nine hundred years to seventy years or nine hundred years to a hundred

They go they start sloping down it isn't that interesting it looks to me like what's called a biological decay curve the

Exponentially decreased along this nice systematic plot Well, what's happening there is it's a biological decay curve because we have the original population of people before the flood

We have a bottleneck event where we have only eight people that survived the floods of the entire

Reproducing human line was bottlenecked down just to eight people Those people got off the ark after after the flood and then they began reproducing into a new population

When you did that some when that happened the decay rate exponentially increases mutations

Exponentially increased and people started living Lifespans that were less and less and less now look at this hit we have from Genesis.

Maybe you guys can remember this It's obscure. It's buried right in there in Genesis 47

Pharaoh comes up to Jacob and he says hey, how old are you? Sometimes I think

God leaves these nuggets in us for in Scripture just for things like this one Jacob said to Pharaoh The days of my years and pilgrimage are all like only a hundred and thirty

Few and evil have been the days of the years of my life And they have not attained to the days of the years of the life of my father's in the days of their pilgrimage

Then he died at a hundred and forty seven. Well, no one's living that old anymore So why is there this decay curve that sharply declines after the flood?

Well, it's actually has a statistical trend to it It's called the power law curve and what this phenomenon?

Mathematically has the likelihood of occurring of less than one chance in a quadrillion

In other words, this statistical estimate is able to track these lifespans that go down from Noah They don't just fall off like a brick.

They don't fall off way down here They begin exponentially and slowly declining and decreasing over time to the point where we have the lifespans today

But it's statistically significant and there's something going on That's so profound and strong that we can actually use it for making

Predictions if we zoom in on some of these lifespans here and we say, okay Well, we're about ten generations from from from Noah there

We can predict that a person that's ten generations after Noah should live 137 and 234 years and 15 generations after the brackets even tighter

This is statistics and math saying look, I don't know what's going on here But you've got some curve that's statistically predictable and statistically significant and as an a mathematician you pick this up going

There's no way this is some chance random occurrence Whoever was writing down these ages using a feather pen and parchment did not know advanced

Polynomial math did not know power law curves did not know exponential math somehow this writer

Writing down these age spans was able to fit these data Along a perfectly declining curve that no human could have it could have invented

So we have these lifespans and we've got this flood event that all of a sudden this Phenomenon happens that people begin living less and less, you know

Shorter and shorter lifespans. So here's the alternative you guys either These are reflecting real actual lifespans that are written down by an errant writer who is writing down and recording their actual lifespans or because you really only have two options somehow over 2 ,900 year period

Multiple authors were in cahoots together to somehow systematically decline the lifespan over a 2 ,900 yard your lifespan in a way that no one would really believe anyhow because if we only live 70 or 80 or 90 years

Now, why would we have it so that why would they want to say that people were living an average of 912 years?

So really really interesting you've either got a real statistical phenomenon on real data or somehow a whole bunch of writers in some kind of a

Multi -generational scam here coming out with declining lifespans this for me.

I think it's one of the most Evidential true truable things about Noah's flood in Scripture. So even

Jesus referred back to these Old Testament characters He referred of course to Adam and Eve and Cain and Abel Noah's Ark.

So now we have the credibility of Christ That's also anchored into these lifespans that lead back to Human serial number one even

Christ leaned into and referred to these people as real people So I would argue as does

Luke chapter 3 that the only reason that Christ could say he's the Redeemer of humanity is because he Created humanity and the

Bible talks about Adam the first man and Christ was the second man So we we can just take one chapter of Scripture Luke chapter 3

We can go back from Jesus Christ over 70 generations that are named in God's Word And we can go all the way back to the beginning