CrossPolitic on Revoice - You Need to Watch Their Interview (link in description)

CrossPolitic Interview on Revoice and the Revoice Conference

Well, all right, let's do a quick review actually not really a review just sort of a plug really for this cross-politic Video where they talk to pastor Greg Johnson. He's a PCA pastor and this is the church that's hosting the revoice conference that has been all over sort of the reformed world media and this is a conference that is hoping to sort of not normalize but but sort of normalize gay Christianity and Where as long as people aren't actually literally having sex.

They're they're cool with people being gay and being Christian at the same time. It's really more about the desire. So what they're saying is that the desire to have sex with a man isn't really sinful.

What what's sinful is if you act on that desire? And a lot of people have a problem with that. I have a problem with that. I don't think it's scriptural. But this is not really my area of speciality. This is not really the area that I've read a lot or focused on.

These brothers, however do a great job talking about it. So I highly recommend you watch this video. It's it's really it is it is amazing. It's a great video. It's a great example of the kind of conversations that I wish were having happening.

With the race and ethnicity issues in the church, but they aren't right now. So I'm Hoping that eventually we will have conversations like this in the in the woke church movement and actually this is all related the woke church is Absolutely following the same methodologies and strategies as this revoice thing, so it's all kind of related.

But anyway, there's two sections that I wanted to just comment on briefly and so I'll just play it. This is starting right around minute 42. Repent of being attracted.

Repentance, Desire, and the Created Order

That's how God made the world. We repent is being lustful over if I'm attracted to an animal that's. Immediately God make you to.

To find other other women sexually attractive, I don't know. We only know the fallenness of this world. No, no, but we have.

But we would look back at mark 10 Greg and we would say look God created the male and female. Therefore that's our orientation. That's natural. It's a natural orientation. Anybody who does not have that orientation needs to repent and pray to God that they would change and have that Orientation.

Yeah, if if if a person is what happens when that doesn't happen. You you go to Lord again.

You see a Toby scratch is that after that one that's what I want to talk about he says, you know anyone who. Has these orientations these desires these unnatural desires? Homosexual desires what he's talking about.

He needs to go to God and pray that God would change his heart would change his desires and then pastor Greg Johnson says what happens when it doesn't change and I gotta be honest. Like I Almost don't have words as I'm not even sure really what to say, but this is just so basic.

This is basic Christianity 101 this is low-level. Obvious stuff especially for a pastor with a PhD someone in the PCA. I mean, I respect the PCA very much. My brother's in the PCA and He doesn't know that he asks this question as if it's a very profound question.

So let's just reframe it for a second. What do I do if I have an attraction to a woman who's not my wife? And I go to God and I say God, please just take this attraction away from me a guy. I beg you to please I don't want to be attracted but I am and I just beg you to take this away from me and Then it doesn't go away right what do you do then that's what pastor Greg Johnson is asking as.

If it's a profound question, and I have to say it's it's just so it's mind-boggling that he thinks that this is. This is a tough question. This is not a tough question. There's a couple things that you do.

You continue to ask God you ask God until the day you die to take away these sinful desires. That's very clear. I mean, there's really I mean God is powerful. The Holy Spirit is absolutely in control.

And and so you beg and you plead with God to take these desires away from you. The second thing that you do is that you do everything in your power to kill it yourself. In other words, if you're attracted to a certain woman who's not your wife you avoid that woman if at all possible.

You do not put yourself in compromising positions with that woman. You don't God forbid. You don't share a room with that woman overnight, and I'm seeing people at this revoice concert conference supposedly.

Trying to kill this sin within them this desire within them. Well, they don't think the desire is sinful but but but trying to try to repent of their of their lost in other words. Talking about sharing rooms with each other talking about I mean, they're putting themselves in danger.

It doesn't seem like there's any desire to kill the the The attractions or anything like that. In fact, they're talking about openly these some of these guys are married to women and they're talking about how they're attracted to other men.

I mean, I can you imagine having a conference where or even. It doesn't have to be a conference. But just imagine if I got on this video and I told you about all the women that I'm attracted to besides my wife.

How do you think my wife would feel? What do you think my children would think when they grew up and all they hear about is how I'm attracted to all these women. But it's okay. I don't ever ever actually have sex with them.

Absolutely shocking. That's that's this is not this is this is basic Christianity 101. What do you do when you desire things that you know? You shouldn't Paul has a very clear answer for that pastor Greg Johnson seems to think that it's an open question I don't really get that.

Anyway, here's the next thing. I wanted to bring around minute 51.

Original Sin, Mortification, and Repentance

Jesus saw the hardness of heart of the Pharisees and it says that he was angry. So he healed the man with the withered hand. Right, there's a godly anger.

But but what I'm hearing is you. What I'm hearing is is you judging brothers for not. Repenting of something that can't be repented of. You can. See. That's the problem right there, you know, you can.

That's the problem. You know to say that you need to like because that's assuming it's volitional, you know.

It's not it's not it's not Greg because we again we're back to the original sin. Original sin is not volitional. We understand that original sin is in our bones and every one of us has it and yet we're still called to utterly Repudiate it to kill it to mortify it.

Yeah, and and and to repent. And we talk to everybody like this.

Say that again, I. A very costly obedience. They're paying more than a tithe to follow Jesus. They're doing it. Trying to honor God. They still have a term some of them. Some of them say it's same-sex attraction.

Some of them say it's it's an orientation. It's gay. They're not giving it equal billing with Christian.

Let me ask you this way. You said you're asking us to repent of something or asking them to repent of something that they can't repent of. What is that? That's it. What is that?

What can't they repent of an attraction? You can repent of a love. That's a choice. Why can't you an attraction? But why can't you if my attraction is to little kids, I better be repenting of that. Now what you do there is you.

You mortify that so you see this is this is the thing.

So Greg Johnson says that the attraction is something is unrepentable. You can't repent of an attraction or a desire. And that's just on the surface. Completely wrong. And in fact, he'd contradicted himself right there Chocolate Knox right there said well look, you know if I had a attraction to children and a desire for children well, I should.

What should I do with that and he says mortify that as if there's a distinction between repentance and mortification of sin. And there isn't. The reality is that this conference is treating homosexuality as if it's a special sin.

It's not like all the rest and so what I would normally do with any sin in my life as a Christian. Which is kill it repent of it avoid it if I flee from sexual immorality doesn't say share rooms with people.

You're sexually attracted to it says flee from sexual immorality. This is but not this one. This one's a special one. So every other kind of sin whether it's white supremacy whether it's you know whether it's pedophilia, whether it's Lust adultery, whatever it is Anger, you know, he even talks about angry and being nice and not gentle.

He even talks about overeating all those things you flee from but this was a special one. We can have a conference where the desire itself isn't sinful and you don't really have it's unrepentable. You can't even repent of it.

There's so much more in this video watch this video. It's absolutely shocking. This is how far we've come. This is in the PCA. This guy's ordained in the PCA. I don't see any reason why he should be for very long.

This is this is basic Christianity 101 that he is absolutely incorrect on. I honestly don't think that there's any reason why he should be in a position of ministry if he doesn't understand Christianity at this Very basic level he might have a PhD and he might be smarter than all all me and all of my followers combined.

But that being said this is a spiritual thing. This is a spiritual thing. He's doing I mean, I don't want to say irreparable because the Holy Spirit's stronger than Pastor Greg Johnson, but he's doing damage.

Damage to people who fight against this sin and it is a sin. It has to be mortified just like everything and I think you can see how easily People are telling people to repent of whiteness these days and white supremacy.

But not same-sex attraction. Doesn't make any sense at all. Anyway, I hope this was helpful. God bless That's right.

Your PhD, you know that mortify well to mortify something is you know, it's. It's the difference between Jesus says do not lead us into temptation and forgive us our debts. You ask forgiveness for sin for an action a word of thought a deed a choice.

These guys are way smarter than me.