December 16, 2016 Show with Ryan McGraw on “Knowing the Trinity: Practical Thought for Daily Life” AND “Christ’s Glory, Your Good: Salvation Planned, Promised, Accomplished & Applied”

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Chris Arnzen at gmail .com and please put Luncheon in the subject line when you send the email and Today, I am so thrilled to have on iron sharpens iron as our guest for the very first time Ryan McGraw he is on the faculty at Greenville Theological Presbyterian Seminary in South Carolina.

He's an author and we are going to be discussing his book Christ's glory your good salvation planned promised accomplished and applied and it's my honor and privilege to welcome You for the very first time to iron sharpens iron.

Ryan McGraw.

Thank you Chris, it's a joy to be with you and before we even go into.

The subject of this book of yours published by Reformation Heritage books. I would like to know something about your personal background the providential occurrences that the Lord brought about in your life to draw you to himself and Save you by his mercy.

Matic theology. Background. And to be central in him and so in that sense subject of the glory of Christ.

Nature that is mind-blowing. I had no idea that you knew Deckard and let alone were related to him and This is just totally mind-blowing. I had no idea and if I'd known that before I would have made an extra effort to have Deckard Co-host with me today.

Wow. That is something because I was actually going to ask you Before you just inform me of that interesting news. I was gonna ask you do you have to know Deckard Stevens? Because I knew of his connection with South Carolina.

Well, it's God is certainly a God of Providence, isn't he? But this is truly amazing and I will be sure to get Decker a recording of this program and Although I'm pretty sure that his co-pastor there Matt Purdy.

I.

At least perhaps even Deckard to perhaps. Got my email from yesterday because they at least Matt Purdy is on my email list. So Hopefully. And I know I think Deckard is as well. But he's so new in town that I don't know if I remember to include him on the local email list yet.

But anyway, and he's also a really gifted Speaker. I Was privileged to hear him speak to a men's gathering at the Carlisle Reformed Presbyterian Church not long ago and He's also I don't know if you knew he has been a guest on iron sharpens iron as well.

Okay.

Yeah, he talked about his struggle and victory over cancer and and How a devotional on Job that banner of truth published Was a great encouragement and blessing in his life during that period. But well, when did you realize that you had a call in your life?

To first enter the ministry and then Obviously enter into the scholastic arena the academic world as a professor.

Opportunities to do something when I was first come and then as of late. Well, please send my.

Sincere regards to dr. Joey Piper because he has been on my program a number of times and Wrote a very wonderful commendation for iron sharpens iron that is posted on our website. So I will do. I really appreciate him and his ministry and his mind very much and his heart as well.

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And before we even go into our topic of the specific book Christ's glory your good salvation plan promised Accomplished and applied. I do want to touch just a little bit so you can give our Listeners a little preview to whet their appetite about a new book coming out that the Alliance of confessing evangelicals is Publishing and knowing the Trinity practical thought for daily life.

And I promise those of you at the Alliance of confessing evangelicals who may be listening that I will get Our guests back on the program to speak specifically about that book for two hours after it's released.

But when after further thought These two topics are so deep and rich I think it would be better if we handled them both one at a time for two hours each rather than split up the The interview and have them both combined in one show.

But just so our listeners can have their appetites wet for this. Tell us about knowing the Trinity practical thought for daily life.

Yeah.

Great and so keep Keep your eyes open and your ears open for more details on the release of that book. What is it actually expected to be in print? Great and I know that you can go to Alliance net org for the website of the Alliance of confessing evangelicals Alliance net org and Of course, you could keep Emailing me for updates at Chris Arnzen at gmail .com.

Chris Arnzen at gmail .com and of course, we'll be giving out Contact information later for Ryan McGraw our guest today. Well, you've written this book that Reformation Heritage Books has brought into print.

Christ's glory. You're good. Salvation planned promised accomplished and applied.

That.

Accomplished and applied is reminiscent to me of I believe that was. Was that John Murray's book on the Atonement?

Yes, yes.

Well, tell us about the motivation behind writing this book.

Wow, you gotta explain that that's very interesting concept. What I mean by that?

Amen.

Including just all the others. So that's why I say there's a man.

Well, uh, the first subject I'd like you to Discuss is the eternal Christ. This seems to be an Area where the cults and those who claim to be Christian But are only a facade of biblical Christianity. This is seems to be where they depart from the Bible and the biblical Christ the true Christ that we Worship and honor and serve.

And the Christ who saved us by his blood because a lot of the cults and false Christian groups.

Will deny.

Even if not explicitly but they deny in the way that they inconsistently discuss and teach about his existence. They. They will say that really he very often they will say that he appeared on the scene in the manger in Bethlehem.

Or something like that. But he is an eternal Christ. And if you could tell us about that.

Well, we are going to our first break right now.

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We would obviously Not want to identify you by name, but we look forward to your emails. With questions for our guests at Chris Arnzen at gmail .com. Chris Arnzen at gmail .com. Don't go away we are going to be right back after these messages God willing with Ryan McGraw and More on Christ's glory.

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We have Harrison in Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania. Who said I as a Calvinist just like you? Experience a lot of opposition to both a limited atonement which you mentioned in your answer to the other listener as Well as unconditional election because it is very misunderstood by them they typically will say that God does a eeny meeny miny moe in his choice of Those he wants to elect as if it is just a purely arbitrary.

Choice.

Because of the fact that we believe it is unconditional. But those two things are not the same. Are they unconditional and arbitrary. If you could explain.

You know that I'm another oddball brother because that was the same thing with me As of God in him. And as soon as someone explained to me if Christ became sin on him together.

Yes, because you cannot be logically consistent and say that Christ died a substitutionary death and yet believe at the same time. That many if not, most of those he substituted for will be in hell. That doesn't make any sense.

Yeah, and so I'm very thankful to the Lord that my right it has nothing at all to do with their loveliness.

Or their attractiveness or their goodness innately at all. That would be the idea of Pelagian ism and all the false religions claiming to be Christian. But you're just saying that there is a reason it's just.

It's clear that it's not because we somehow merit or earn or deserve His grace, which would be oxymoronic. But that he has a reason that we will never know this side of heaven perhaps not even in eternity.

And I need to clarify something that I said before when I said I agreed with you that I.

Also came to embrace the system known as Calvinism first through limited atonement. I have to clarify that actually I first came to embrace This system which I militated against initially for a very brief period of time after my rebirth when a Christian a reformed Christian gave me the booklet George Whitfield's letter to John Wesley on election and I read that booklet and God used it to open up my eyes to see that it was true, but I hated it.

I hated that it was true, but the doctrine of limited atonement Was when I fell in love with these truths. Because it personalized my salvation like I had never understood my salvation before. It's interesting that a lot of reformed people They will say that they're they're coming to an understanding of reformed theology.

Made them appreciate more The the the corporate Love that God has for the church and so on which militated against modern Individualism, but with me even though I believe that that is a problem that people have in the modern evangelical world.

To me though It was my it was the the individual personalized beauty That Christ specifically died for me on that cross. Not for a nameless Faceless sea of humans and that when he died for me. He accomplished what he set out to do.

He was dying on that cross. Basically saying Chris Arnzen. I am Redeeming you and you will be in heaven with me one day and that just totally Revolutionized my understanding of the cross and of my salvation.

I don't know if you have any comments to that explanation that I have.

I think I think that's helpful right on.

Yeah, in fact, we'll move on to that when we return from the break. Didn't you. Weren't you involved in some? Aspect with banner of truths. Publishing of Bannerman's book the Church of Christ. Okay, great, but we're going to a break right now and Seth and Randleman, North Carolina if you could hold on.

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Oh great. Yeah, I'd like to get Ian Hamilton on the program as well. In fact, I wouldn't mind interviewing everybody on the faculty at Greenville Presbyterian Theological Seminary so you can spread the word about that.

Before we go into the next chapter of your book. We have Seth and Randleman, North Carolina that says sorry to ask another question on limited atonement. You never have to apologize for that. But how would you respond to those who say that Christ's death was sufficient for all but efficient only.

For those who believe and I think that may have been a phrase that Andrew Fuller made popular in his day. And he was a five-point Calvinist, but explained it that way. I believe. And if you have any comments, please Ryan.

Actually the phrase what does it can be found in Augusta? Okay, the first thing that because of it that's not because God. Hey, man. Hey, well, you are also getting a free copy of the book. We are discussing.

Christ's glory you're good. By Ryan M McGraw. So Seth in Randleman, North Carolina, if you could please give us your full Mailing address we will have that shipped out to you as soon as possible by our friends at cover one Valley Bible book service Cv bbs .com cv bbs .com and before we move on again to that next chapter In your book, so I think something needs to be clarified.

There are people the common misunderstanding about Calvinism and the common accusation that Arminians make against Calvinism, especially in regard to the atonement or it could be said against Unconditional election as well is that God is either choosing.

Or should I say God is either? neglecting to choose or bypassing people or not dying for people. Christ is not dying for people that otherwise would have had an opportunity to be saved. In other words Their view of free will their view that man in his sinful nature has enough Goodness in his heart that he can muster up within his dead lifeless soul Enough faith that will please God and save him.

They think that a Calvinist is saying That that person who otherwise would have freely come to Christ is somehow being blocked with a roadblock or something. In other words that that God is actually doing something miraculous in a negative way to to deflect a Person from coming to him and also Condemning someone to eternal damnation.

That otherwise would have Benefited from his blood. But this is not at all what what the Reformed faith has ever taught nor is it obviously with the scriptures teach correct and.

I think no one can know it. Amen, and he's not dying for neutral people either.

There are no morally neutral people which even when Arminians Would typically not say that it is very often the implication of what they are saying That how dare God Condemn someone who really doesn't deserve this because they're after all neutral and they could have Summoned up enough faith to to be saved if if he didn't If he didn't somehow put a roadblock to that.

But anyway. Well, let's move on to the the next chapter and I can already tell that this book or Although not very thick in size is going to require probably more than one program to discuss The Christ of Genesis 315 if you could.

Yeah Chapter 2 begins to framing of the house eternity, but was given to your seed as One and then at the end of the chat, so I think both things are not only use it to Genesis. If you look at this principle and then of course and if you could now move on to the incarnate Christ.

Okay Exalted Christ. And We have CJ from Lindenhurst, Long Island, New York.

Who says. I have heard differences of opinion from brethren who appear to be very faithful and theologically sound as to whether or not it's a heresy to reject the impeccability of Christ when he was living on this earth.

There are some Christians who say that to deny the impeccability of Christ May be wrong, but it is not serious. Not serious as seriousness. It is not serious enough. I'm sorry. There's not serious enough to be Condemned as a heresy to deny that.

There are others who who say that it is so serious. To say that there is a possibility Christ could have chosen to sin. What is your guest's opinion on this?

But the best place we're told in Hebrews and in Romans except for spine that with what I'd say it this way. So that's one thing that's important one thing that I note about. He not only does do you think that some of this?

Misunderstanding about the nature of Christ comes from. This comes from a misunderstanding of a of the word temptation or tempted. People today in the 21st century and even in the 20th century if someone if if you are Describing yourself as being tempted by something that typically means 99 of the time today.

You're saying wow, I think I would like to do that. That looks really good but I know I shouldn't but I really want to do that. And and I even heard. He's going to remain nameless. But a very well-known evangelical Christian media figure.

Who is universally? beloved. Crossing Denominational lines he is not theologically reformed. I'll at least say that but he said That Christ wanted to sin, but he never yielded to that temptation. But what he failed to recognize was wanting to commit sin is.

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