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Recorded at the Open Air Theology Conference 2024
All right, did everybody get a handout? Raise your hand if you didn't, because we have a number of them, and Brother Danny has the handouts. So thank you all for having me this evening, because eschatology matters.
And as you heard from Dr. Frost, there's a lot at stake here, and he mentioned a little bit of how I roped him back into this conversation. And so I serve as a pastor and elder at 12 -5 Church in Jonesboro, Arkansas.
That's a verse reference to Romans 12, verse five. That's about the church where we are one together in the body of Christ. And so we are a church plant in Northeast Jonesboro, Arkansas. And in this church plant, I wanted to do an apologetics ministry also.
So the apologetic dog, where we guard the deposit that's been entrusted to us. And so as I was doing more apologetics, mainly evangelizing the Church of Christ, I had a number of people starting to knock on my door and ask me more about eschatology.
I was kind of like,.
Oh, it's gonna all pan out in the end, right? We just trust God with it. That was my typical response. And then essentially in our backyard, there was a church plant that was preaching full preterism from the pulpit.
And this church plant was being started by some dear friends of mine who we started ministry together. And they were partnering with another Southern, they were partnering with the Southern Baptist Church who the preacher was starting to preach openly hyper-preterism.
And these things broke my heart because as I was studying apologetics, my pastor friends were starting to study eschatology. And they went from pre-meal to all meal to post meal. And they were right up on the edge of full preterism.
And I remember getting a phone call one day from my friend at the time. I'm just saying, Jeremiah, I think I'm a heretic.
And I was like, well, slow down.
Like, what in the world are you talking about? And he's like, I really think all of biblical prophecy happened at 70 AD and I don't see a way around it. And he said something at the time that was very encouraging.
He said, I think I'm gonna just back out of ministry altogether because I don't want to ruin people's lives. I know the word of God is inerrant. So the problem is with me. And I was just thinking, well, that's good.
Like, don't preach it.
I said, it's okay to struggle with things, but don't preach it. So anyway, I was encouraged a little bit by that conversation, but it wasn't just a couple more months where he just totally swung the other way.
And so I had people coming to me saying, Jeremiah, what is full preterism? I'm like, I don't know, but I know someone who does. And his name is Dr. Sam Frost. And so we have a mutual friend, Eli Aguila, who runs a YouTube channel called Revealed Apologetics.
And so he interviewed Dr. Frost probably two or three years ago on hyper-preterism. So that was my only knowledge. And so I had to call the big guns up and say, Dr. Frost, do you know these people? What's going on?
And so I remember you were just like, oh, Jeremiah, I don't want to get roped back into this. I'm like, I need help. And I know a lot of other people that need help as well. So I appreciate so much of Dr. Frost's help.
God has used him mightily in my life, and I hope he is a blessing to you. Definitely check out his books and support him. You're a blessing to the church.
So thank you.
So this, I just wanted to remind y 'all of all that because this heresy is personal. I've lost friends. I've seen those lives go down this path of, eschatology is no longer just having minor disagreements over coffee, but redefining Christianity altogether.
And so I want us to kind of take an exegetical approach. I want to show y 'all how we can know with certainty what our blessed hope is. As Christians, what we look forward to. And I want us to deal with some objections that full preterists will make.
And they will definitely ask you, and they definitely come out in social media where the apologetic dog lives. And I want to tell y 'all the things that I've discovered. But if you have your copy of God's word, please turn with me to Titus chapter two, where I want us to look at the time that the apostle Paul told us about our blessed hope.
Or if you have your handouts, I have the passage here as well. So here the apostle Paul says in Titus chapter two, starting in verse 11. He says, for the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people, training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives.
And make special note of this, in the present age, waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and savior, Jesus Christ, who gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works.
This is the Christian's blessed hope, right? You see the phrase here, he says that we are waiting for this blessed hope, the promise of the apocalypses, the revealing. He says here that it's the appearing of our great God and savior, Jesus Christ, right?
This is something that is meant to encourage Christians, amen. We look forward to this, right? The one who is going to restore all things. And so this is in Titus chapter two, meant to encourage one another in discipleship.
Older men, older women, encouraging younger men and women in the faith. And so this is referring to the second coming of Jesus Christ. And I also want to bring this up. Paul says, renounce ungodliness and worldly passions and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in the present age.
Now this is huge in the topic of eschatology. Something Dr. Frost and I talk about and warn people about is when you understand this two age model of this age and the age to come, the full preterist wants you to see that this age is back in the first century talking about the Jewish age, the Jewish mosaic aeon that terminated in 70 A .D.
Okay, well, you got to be careful because what's at the end of this age, according to Paul in the Olivet Discourse, well, it's the Parisian. Okay, and so, but Paul tells us, no, no, no, the present age is something that is filled with evil, sin and rebellion against God.
And the saint is called to be set apart, to live holy lives, to glorify God. And it's going to be a struggle. We are going to suffer in this present evil age. But we await and long for the age to come with the consummation of an eternal kingdom that Christ will establish at his parousia, at his second coming, okay?
And so, as I was thinking more about this, I talked with a lot of people in Johnsboro, Arkansas. They're like, Jeremiah, you're just being a little harsh. Right, and that's why I wanted to tackle verse 15 here in the passage about our blessed hope.
It's because Paul says, declare these things, exhort and rebuke with all authority, let no one disregard you. This is not a small matter. We are called to exhort and to rebuke. So we're going to continue to do that a little bit this evening.
We're going to have a little bit of exhortation, encouragement, we're also going to rebuke, right? Rebuke is essentially calling someone to repent because they are wrong, okay? And once again, this is crucial within discipleship, the older men, older women, encouraging these truths of our blessed hope, but also rebuking if they have it wrong.
This also goes hand-in-hand with the man of God back in Titus chapter one. The man of God is to hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also able to rebuke those who contradict it.
So our blessed hope, this is ever tethered with the gospel itself that we're going to see. And so we hold our blessed hope with a closed fist, something that we as Christians long and that we're awaiting and looking towards.
So on your handout, I kind of wanted to show three main points of our blessed hope, and these are the essentials of eschatology, right? We have the all millennial king in the building here, right? We can learn from the Keith Foskys, right?
About all millennialism. We can look to John MacArthur about pre-millennialism, and we can learn from Jeff Durbin, right? And James Watt about post-millennialism, and we can agree to disagree, but we all agree on these three major fundamental truths of eschatology, right?
So look with me at these. Number one, Jesus Christ's future bodily return. This is not up for grabs. This is one of those things that gives us hope.
And encouragement. I can't wait to see him face to face.
Number two, we're going to talk about the resurrection of the dead. This is also a part of our blessed hope. And lastly, number three, the restoration of all things that includes judgment. So we hold these things closed fisted.
This is not up for debate. And so Dr. Frost talked about Max King. I just want to tell you that the church for 2 ,000 years, of all the disagreement that the church has had, this is the thing that everyone has always agreed on for 2 ,000 years, until Church of Christ minister,.
Max King comes along and says,.
Oh, I have this new eschatology. And he called it essentially covenantal eschatology. That's a realized hope. Everything happened in the past. 70 AD, 70 AD, Flavius Josephus, 70 AD, right? That's full preterism in a nutshell.
And so this conference was almost about the dangers of the cult of the Church of Christ. And so I find it just absolutely mind-boggling that full preterism is barely 30 years old and finds its origin in the Church of Christ with Max King, okay?
So if you look at the top of your handout, what I put there is that all full preterism is essentially that all prophecies concerning end times have already been fulfilled in the past. This extreme view of eschatology redefines Christianity and is therefore called hyper-preterism, okay?
Everything is fulfilled in the past. And I wanna make a case that this absolutely undermines not only our blessed hope, but corrupts the gospel of grace that has been entrusted to us, amen. So if you have your copy of God's word, please turn with me to 1 Corinthians chapter 15.
I believe Paul systematically undoes and dismantles full preterism at the core, and he vindicates these three primary points of eschatology. And so like I said, this is the Achilles' heel. 1 Corinthians 15, where we know this as the great resurrection chapter.
And Paul begins by talking about the essentials of the gospel itself. And so look with me starting in verse 20. Like I said, it's also here in our handout. Paul begins where we're gonna start in verse 20.
He says, but in fact, Christ has been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. For as by a man came death, by a man has also come the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive, but each in his own order.
Christ the firstfruits, then at his parousia, his coming, those who belong to Christ. Then comes the end, when he delivers the kingdom to God, the Father, after destroying every rule and every authority and power.
For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet, and make special note of this, the last enemy to be destroyed is death, okay? What's so amazing about this passage of scripture is it spans all of redemptive history.
It brings up Adam, right? With his sin plunging the cosmos into death, but Jesus reverses the curse, right? We're talking about the second and better Adam that promises us resurrection life, right? The passage we just looked at, there's a whole context leading up to that.
We'll look at it a little bit, and everything afterwards is pointing us back to these central truths. And so Jesus's glorious return is at the end, we'll talk about that too, to restore all things with the consummation of his eternal kingdom, in eternal age, with a kingdom that cannot fail or perish, okay?
And so this has encouraged saints for 2 ,000 years. This is our blessed hope. So look with me back at major point number one. Paul is talking about Jesus Christ's future bodily return. Something I wanna emphasize in this context as we circle around the word death in verse 26.
What is death talking about?
Well, Paul's case is saying, well, look back to Jesus.
What kind of death did he have?
And we might ask, well, what kind of resurrection are believers gonna have? Look back to Jesus, what kind of resurrection did he have? And so verse 20, but in fact, Christ has been raised from the dead, meaning that Christ has been, this perfect tense, he has been raised from the dead and remains to this day as our risen Lord.
Understand this about Christ. He died bodily, which means physically, okay? We're not talking, he died merely a spiritual Gnostic death. No, it was bodily, right? The scriptures prophesied that he would be buried according to the scriptures, right?
A physical death. His resurrection was bodily also. In Acts chapter one, we see that he had a bodily ascension into heaven.
And the angels said, oh yeah,.
He's coming back that same way that you saw him leave. And understand Jesus is the God-man. He didn't lose his human nature, his human body didn't get dissolved like some of these full predators would say because they need to get rid of the body in their view.
Understand Jesus is the perfect high priest. He is the God-man that intercedes perfectly on our behalf. And all of this is showing us how he will return bodily as the God-man and glorify him. That's the context.
And so it's not hard to know that this has not happened yet. Look at with me at verse 23. Paul says, at his coming, those who belong to Christ, then comes the end. A lot of debate revolves around what is the end here?
Well, Paul has been developing in so many ways that the end is the end of this evil age, this perishing age. This assumes that there's going to be a last day. And so he's talking about the end of history, the end of this evil age where the apocalypses, the great revealing of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ will return to judge the world in righteousness.
You know what he's gonna do? He's going to crush the last enemy, death. And so a lot of our conversations revolve around what is the nature of death? Who do we look to? Jesus, what kind of death did he have?
Oh, that was physical. That wasn't a mere spiritual death. And so that is the number one timing indicator that we can say the last enemy, death, has not been destroyed. We see it all around us. My day job is a hospice chaplain.
Guess what?
I see a lot of death. Praise God, I get a lot of opportunities to share the gospel, but it hurts my soul when I hear people say that this was merely a spiritual death that happened at 70 AD, 70 AD, Flavius Josephus, 70 AD.
I'm not gonna, it's not gonna work on me because I see the corruption, I know you do too, of sin and evil that all results back in returning to the dust of the ground. So, the parousia has not happened.
How do we know? Not only is scripture clear, but we see death continuing day in and day out. Major point number two, the resurrection of the dead. Full preterists need at least two things with the resurrection of the dead.
They need this to merely be spiritual and fulfilled at 70 AD. Paul destroys this idea. Back in verse 20, he says, but in fact, Christ has been raised from the dead, the firstfruits, this is so important, Paul repeats it twice.
Jesus Christ is the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. So, to be the firstfruit is a picture of what is to come. It's the first crop harvest. If you looked at the firstfruits, everything else is going to fall in line with that.
That's why Paul is building his case, pointing back to King Jesus. And so, if you would, look with me at verses 21 and 22, where we see a double parallelism with Adam and Jesus Christ. For as by a man came death, and then, in your mind, draw a circle and think, okay, what kind of death related to Adam?
For as by a man came death, by a man has also come the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive. Remember everything that happened with Adam, he sinned and plunged the world into death, Jesus reverses the curse.
What Paul is communicating is that all humans are in Adam by nature and share in death, but all who are in Christ by faith alone shall be made alive. He's given us a promise that we will be resurrected unto glory and see him face to face one day.
So in verse 23, he says, but each in his own order, right? Remember, Christ is the firstfruits. His resurrection is first, and then all of his soldiers at the last day will be resurrected like him. He's first, and all who are in Christ will be like him.
Okay, so we understand that the resurrection of the dead will be like Christ's resurrection, bodily, not nearly spiritual. This is something we look for at his return, which we know has not happened. Major point number three, the restoration of all things.
So if you look with me at verse 24, Paul says, then comes the end, first wind clause, when he delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every rule and every authority and power. And in verse 28, we see the second wind clause and says, that God may be all in all.
What I'm stressing is all of history is his story of redemption. There's not gonna be any open ends. And correct me on this, but full Preterism says, everything that you see around us continues on into infinity.
That means the evil continues on with no end in sight, right? Because they don't want us to think about the end being the end of history. Well, God is not the author of confusion. All things will be restored and he will judge the world in righteousness.
So my point is, full Preterism has this story open ended and it never gets resolved. But God will restore all things. Christ will deliver the kingdom to God the Father. And it says, destroying, literally abolishing all those who do not submit to the Lordship of King Jesus.
This would include the resurrection unto judgment. Remember earlier, we see the resurrection of the dead. This is primarily referring to saints, right? For us, we've merely fallen asleep because we will be raised one day, right?
We will see a new dawn. We will see our Lord and Savior and be with him for all eternity. But for those that will receive judgment, they will be cast into the lake of fire. Ongoing death, ongoing alienation from God.
And so the Hebrew scriptures prophesied about the great and awesome day of the Lord and he will bring into fruition this consummation of a new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells eternally.
Now there's a lot of different views about the book of Revelation. But something we have to recognize is it gives us a foretaste of this consummated eternal kingdom that is not yet. No more sorrow, no more hurts, no more pain and death shall be no more.
The apostle John says, no longer will there be anything accursed, nothing touched by sin, but the throne of God and the land will be in it. And his servants will worship him. They will see his face and his name will be on their foreheads and night will be no more.
They will need no more light or lamp or sun for the Lord God will be their light. And make note of this, they will reign forever and ever. This is a kingdom that cannot perish and cannot fail. No more sin, no more evil, no more death, just eternal glory with our sweet savior.
And so as we begin to look more at the context of 1 Corinthians 15, look on the back with me of your handout because the full priors would say, well, you're wrong. The church has got it wrong for 2000 years.
You need us actually. We have some questions that show the faulty of you hyper-credalist out there, right? You need to get back to the Bible only, no creed but Christ. That's what they'll say. Like I said, it comes out of the Church of Christ restorationist movement that said no creed but Christ, which is a creed.
I just want to point out. And so they will bring out four objections here. And the common thing with all four objections is understanding the word death. So let's look at them. Objection number one, Adam only died spiritually the day he sinned.
This is actually a good question or a good point to be raised that I want to help equip you to be able to handle. And we're going to spend the most time on objection one because it's going to help us with the next three objections as well.
Number two, the quotation, the last enemy can't be physical death because everyone dies. Number three, the dead refers to the corporate body of Old Testament saints. This by far is the most odd and bizarre view that's imposed onto 1 Corinthians 15.
And lastly, number four, a quote from Hosea. Oh, death, where is your victory? The full predators would say, oh, that's just referring to spiritual death. If you don't know what the prophet Hosea says, then you can't understand the apostle Paul.
So you can see how everything kind of revolves around verse 26 in 1 Corinthians 15. The last enemy to be destroyed is death. Okay, remember the context, the first 25 verses, Paul is building his case saying death.
Oh, well, Jesus physically died, right? So this is what Paul has in mind. The full predators are going to front load the conversation like Dr. Frost was saying that, oh, it's spiritual. It's covenantal death, right?
They don't want us to think in these physical categories of returning to the dust of the ground. And so we look back to Jesus, not as the exception, but as the rule, as the first fruits, right? You can always have in mind Jesus Christ, what his resurrection, what his death looked like.
That's what's promised us. That's the context of the apostle Paul. Death in the Greek is thanatos, and it's perfectly defined for us, the termination of physical life. That's the context. And so our blessed hope revolves around Jesus restoring all things at the end of history when physical death is destroyed.
But I could already hear the full predators say, but Jeremiah, you conveniently left out Adam and the kind of death that he had in Genesis chapter three. Okay, does this make sense? They say, listen, Adam only died spiritually the day he sinned, not physically.
And this point is valid to at least raise and say, well, how do you account for this? Because look with me back in verses 21 and 22. Remember the parallelism, right? For as by a man came death, question mark, what kind of death?
By a man has come also the resurrection of the dead, for as in Adam all die, question mark, what kind of death is being talked about there? So also in Christ shall all be made alive. So sure, Paul wants us to go back to the beginning.
He even quotes from Genesis later here, first Corinthians 15, where the context there, we're familiar, that Adam was supposed to have dominion over all of God's creation and to subdue it. But Adam sinned and plunged the entire cosmos into death.
And so this is where the full predators comes in and say, Jeremiah, Adam only died spiritually the day he sinned, not physically. And so I believe there's a few assumptions in their objection here. And this is huge.
Dr. Frost has spent many hours talking about this first one. They are assuming a radical separation between physical death and spiritual death, as though they are almost unrelated and disconnected from each other.
As we're gonna see, scripture talks about the death. We can talk about it being two sides of the same coin, where yes, there is a spiritual death, a spiritual element to things, because we are human, we are both spiritual and physical.
And yes, that's inextricably linked with returning back to the dust of the ground, which is termination of physical life, thanatos, death. And so the other assumption is, well, day here in Hebrew is yom, and this must be referring to a 24-hour window in which Adam sinned and died.
And so I wanna challenge that. Is that being consistent to say that yom is merely referring to a 24-hour window? Or is it referring to a new yom, an evil day of death? I want us to consider these things.
So if you do wanna turn with me in your copy of God's Word to Genesis chapter two, I want us to look at when God spoke to Adam and talked about the day that he sins, ultimately he will die. Genesis chapter two, starting in verse 16, says, the Lord God commanded the man, Adam, saying, you may surely eat of every tree of the garden, but of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, you shall not eat.
For in the day, yom, that you eat of it, you shall surely die, okay? Now, we not only have objections from full preterists saying, see, he only merely spiritually died here, there was no physical death.
Even atheists will come in and say, well, if Adam didn't physically die in that 24-hour day, then Christianity is a sham. And so I just want us to be equipped to answer these objections and laser focus in on, for in the yom that you eat of the tree of knowledge and good and evil, you shall surely die.
Now, there's a semantic domain to the word yom, and so I just want us to kind of consider, too. Perhaps we can understand yom as a 24-hour window of evening and morning, but yom also is open-ended. It could be a reference to any number of days, any general specific time.
And so one good example of this is when we look back in Genesis chapter one, the debate rages on between young earth creationists and old earth creationists, and that's okay, but perhaps some good evidence for a 24-hour window of time is when we see the phrase evening and morning, okay?
So if you can just hear me for a moment, Genesis one, verse five, God called the light day, which is another usage for the word yom, and he called the darkness night, and there was evening, and there was morning, the first yom, okay?
So look at this as really good evidence for a 24-hour window of time. But in Genesis two, we see a shift in the word yom to some degree, because the seventh day, God rested, and we don't see that phrase evening and morning anymore, right, God didn't get tired, he didn't need a siesta, right, but he simply ceased from creation, right?
He entered into a day of rest, which is not a 24-hour window of time. In fact, the New Testament and the book of Hebrews says, if we want to enter into that same day of rest, we'll look to King Jesus.
He will save you from the evil day of death. And so when God says to Adam, for in the day that you eat of the knowledge of the tree of good and evil, you shall surely die, God is being clear to Adam. He is saying, the moment you sin against me, you will enter into a new day.
You will enter into the evil day of death, and everything that you were supposed to have dominion over, oh yeah, it's going with you. And then we see the next phrase, you shall surely die. We could easily understand this as dying, you shall die.
And so Ken Ham, with answers in Genesis, says this, the Hebrew is literally die, die, muth, muth, with the two different verb tenses, dying and die, which can be translated surely die or dying, you shall die.
This indicates the beginning of dying and ingressive sins, which finally culminates in physical termination. That's exactly what we see in Genesis chapter three. Adam sinned against God and entered into that day of death.
And then God cursed the ground because of man's sin and told Adam, by the sweat of your face, you shall eat bread, you will return to the ground for out of it you were taken, for you were dust, and to dust you shall return.
As I listen to Dr. Frost debates, we can't get a clearer definition of death, can we? The returning back to dust. This is not just merely spiritual. Adam entered into the state of dying with the absolute certainty that he would physically return to the dust of the ground.
And Genesis 5 .5 does highlight this, all the days that Adam lived were 930 years and he died. We see the death at work, meaning the death goes in through the power of sin, which is spiritual, but it guarantees us that we return back to the ground,.
Which is physical death.
And so just because we can distinguish aspects that are spiritual and physical, listen, physical death, spiritual death, two sides of the same coin. You don't get one without the other. This goes back earlier to Genesis 1 and 2, where God said, let us make man in our image.
For the Lord God formed the man of the dust of the ground, think physical, and he also breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, spiritual. This is man, he is a living creature. And so when Adam sinned, death necessarily touches all of what man is, spiritual, physical.
The prophet Isaiah says, there will be a day when the death, the one and only death, that touches all of man, that death will be swallowed up in victory. And that is what the apostle Paul has in mind when he quotes those prophets.
So the apostle Paul was a Hebrew of Hebrews. He was familiar with this yom, this evil day of death. And so he is warring against the flesh. In Romans chapter five, he brings this concept out. He says, therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, the death reigned through sin.
So death spread to all man because all sin. He goes on to say, as sin reigned in the death, grace also might reign through righteousness, leading to eternal life in Jesus Christ our Lord. Okay, so you're starting to see the connection between the Hebrew roots of Paul and the didactic clear teaching in the New Testament.
Paul was warring against the flesh because that's where the power of sin would rear its ugly head. In Romans, he says, it was sin producing death in me, for I know nothing good dwells in me that is my flesh.
Oh, wretched man that I am, who will deliver me from this body of death? The death, the one and only where the spiritual power of sin reigns and will certainly return man back to the dust of the ground.
And I think it's a valid question to ask, why did Adam live so long in the evil day of death? Adam had committed treason against the cosmic creator of the universe, who is holy, righteous, and good. God would have been perfectly just in terminating Adam's physical life because he sinned.
Fellowship had been lost. God's covenant with man to have life was broken and we understand the wages of sin is death. Valid question, why did Adam live so long in the evil day of death? There's mitigating circumstances, isn't that right?
But God, God wanted to show his grace and mercy and reveal more of himself to fallen man, to Adam and Eve. God was merciful and provided a substitutionary animal sacrifice, right? Animal skins to cover Adam and Eve's shame, their guilt.
They had sinned. In order for Adam and Eve to continue to live temporarily, a sacrifice had to be made. The book of Leviticus tells us that for the life of the flesh is in the blood. Make atonement for your souls for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life.
Physical death did happen in that 24 hour window when Adam sinned, right? For my Hebrew scholars out there, Hebrew, the Hebrew language really emphasizes the action and what I want you to understand is physical death did happen and it definitely should have been Adam and Eve, but God.
So what we're taking away from this is that physical death is a result of Adam's sin. That's the whole point in first Corinthians 15, physical death, which results from the sin of Adam. And here's the reality.
Adam was not the only one stuck in the evil day of death, but he plunged all of humanity into that same evil day. Paul being a Hebrew of Hebrews, he brings out this concept in Ephesians chapter six. He says, therefore take up the whole armor of God that you may be able to withstand in the evil day having done all to stand firm.
You hear that, the evil day? The evil day of death, this perishing age that will end at the end, the last day when the perishing happens. John Calvin weighs in on this and says, all the days are evil.
And he goes on to say that Satan has his way. We need God to redeem the times. And so I don't see Jeffrey Rice, but can I quote Johnny Mac at this conference? I love John MacArthur, by the way. And he has a wonderful quote here that I just want to share with you all.
He says, since the fall of man, every day has been evil, a condition that will persist until the Lord returns and establishes his own righteous kingdom on earth.
Amen.
First Corinthians 15, Paul quotes from Genesis. He says, thus it is written, the first man, Adam became a living being and he was from the earth, listen, a man of dust. In all of humanity, we have born the image of the man of dust.
And so in my study of this, the word image in Greek is icon, which we get the word image or icon. And so sometimes we think an image of something is just a mere representation. And so this is actually saying something that is drawn out.
Of the essence of.
We are made in the image of Adam who plunged all of us into the evil day of death. We are drawn from the man of dust. That's why we all die in Adam. When Adam sinned in the garden, it looks gloomy, but God, not all hope was lost because he gives us the promise of the gospel, the savior of humanity to save us from the evil day of death.
And if you're familiar with the Genesis chapter three, we get the Protoevangelium, right? The first promise of the gospel. We read that the woman's offspring, this savior, he will crush the serpent's head.
This goes hand in hand with those substitutionary sacrifices of the animal, right? Because Jesus Christ is the lamb slain before the foundation of the earth, amen, of the world. He is the lamb of God that takes away our sin, right?
He removes it from us as far as the east is from the west. There was mitigating circumstances that day. God wanted to put his glory on display. He wanted to show his grace, his mercy, and compassion. Friend, listen, he rescues us from the evil day of death by promising us resurrection unto life.
That's our blessed hope, okay? So we're just still in the first objection. Hopefully we can get through this in an hour. But I just want to remind you that first objection says, Adam only died spiritually the day he said.
Provided a substitutionary sacrifice of animals for Adam and Eve to temporarily live. Telling you, you wrap your mind around that, full preterist is not gonna catch you off guard. Hey, let's go back to Genesis.
Let's do it. Paul is not trying to invent something that's different from what happened from the beginning because God is all in all. Don't let the full preterist just say, well, it's just merely spiritual.
And that's something in our past. Let's go to Adam, who is spiritual and physical. And he returned to the dust of the ground. That's a result of the curse. That is a result of sin. Going back to our objections, look with me at number two.
Okay, this one's easy. But this objection comes from none other than Gary DeMar. I messaged him and said, I would like to know more of his view of 1 Corinthians 15, 26 about the last enemy to be destroyed is death.
I said, do you have some more from that? He goes, no, I stay away from that. But he said, Jeremiah, the last enemy can't be physical death because everyone dies. And he continued to tell me, how does believing in Jesus overcome physical death as the last enemy?
No, no, no, it's spiritual death that is the last enemy.
And so I thought, well, the answer is easy.
Yes, we all die as Christians, but we don't stay dead.
That's right, amen.
Okay, so when he says the last enemy can't be physical death because everyone dies, the point is we don't stay dead. By believing in Christ, we are promised a raised, glorious body for all eternity with our savior.
The pains of death will be loose for believers just like Jesus. And a little insight for our friend, when Jesus returns, the death will be no more. The apostle John once again says, I saw a new heaven and I saw a new earth for the first heaven and the first earth passed away.
Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man. When he will dwell with his people and we will be with him, God himself will be their God. He will wipe away every tear from their eyes and the death, thanatos, shall be no more.
Neither shall there be mourning, crying, pain, the former things have passed away. Listen, Paul Preter said that's all spiritual, okay? Hopefully you hear that and say, I hope not, right? Because we feel the effects of evil, sin, and death.
Obviously, Damar is just radically separating the death into being spiritual death and physical death, right? And we're saying, no, scripture says they're inextricably linked together. And when he says the last enemy can't be physical death because everyone dies, this is simply bad reasoning.
I was listening to one of Dr. White's debates.
With a Muslim.
They make the same type of objection with Jesus Christ being the Messiah. They will quote Psalm 91 that is messianic.
Listen to this.
So this is the reasoning of the Muslims and it's identical to what Gary Damar is saying. Psalm 91 says, the Most High will deliver you, the Messiah. No evil will befall you. I will protect you, the Most High says to the Messiah.
I will be with him in trouble. I will rescue him and I will show him my salvation. Listen, the Muslim will say, Jesus cannot be the Messiah because you think he died on a Roman cross. He was not protected according to you.
He was not rescued according to Psalm 91. He did not see salvation because he experienced death by dying on a Roman cross.
And the Christian says, of course he died.
The New Testament tells us that he might taste death for everyone. Yes, he did die on our behalf, but he tasted death. Jesus was not abandoned to death to stay there. He was delivered. He was protected, how?
By resurrecting from the dead.
And so it's just bad reasoning.
When we hear the last enemy can't be physical death because everyone dies, yes, all Christians will physically die. But we have been promised not to stay dead because we will be resurrected at the final day at the Parisia, at our Lord's return.
Amen, brother Danny.
That's what I'm talking about.
Objection number three. This one's a strange one. This is one that I think you said you endorsed this view for a time, Dr. Frost, right? The Old Testament corporate body view. This originates with Max Keene.
It's a strange one. So the objection is the dead refers to the corporate body of Old Testament saints. So he mentioned this earlier. Look with me at 1 Corinthians 15, 35. So the questions that Paul is raising, the objectioner is raising, how are the dead raised with what kind of body do they come?
So Max Keene is scratching his head thinking, okay, how can we get around this one? And he says, okay, the dead ones are those that are trapped in Hades, the body of Old Testament saints. And nowhere, nowhere in the context, nowhere do you get that unless you have this guiding hermeneutic of 70 AD, 70 AD, Flavius Josephus, destruction of the temple, 70 AD, right?
There needs to be a rescuing device. And so what we see is, well, body, earlier in 1 Corinthians could be referring to the body of the church, right? So this could be referring to a different corporate body.
And then they'll basically say,.
So you're telling me there's a chance.
And we're saying, no, there's nowhere in the context that's suggesting this spiritual corporate body that's trapped in Hades, is what James White would say. But he's not here to correct my Greek. Understand, they're having to shoehorn this rescuing device into the context of 1 Corinthians 15.
All prophecy must be fulfilled by 70 AD at all costs. And so when you engage with this type of like, why do you continue to read this? They'll say, well, Jesus was a Jew.
And he represented the Jewish people.
And so when he resurrected out of the dead, he is the exception showing us that this is a kind of spiritual resurrection. Yes, he resurrected bodily, but a spiritual resurrection was happening. And when I hear this, I say, yes, Jesus represents true Israel, ethnic Jews that were trusting in the promises of God apart from their works.
That would also include Gentile Christians trusting in Jesus Christ apart from their works. This doesn't work. Pope writers will say, well, Paul's quoting from the Old Testament. I'm like, what's your point?
Just quoting from Hosea and Isaiah doesn't mean that he's constructing this Old Testament corporate body view. I'm just saying like you're reaching first straws here.
And it's not working.
There's no context. There's continuity and discontinuity between the Old and New Testament. The New Testament fulfills the Old. Yes, of course, Paul is going to quote from the Old Testament scripture.
So we understand that more of the context that's going on in 1 Corinthians 15. These professing believers at Corinth, they are being heavily influenced by pagan philosophy, teaching that the resurrection of the dead is impossible.
And the reason why we know this is Corinth was a flowing metropolis, a very popular town that everybody knew was going in and out of. And just 50 miles down the road was the Areopagus where Paul went and preached at Mars Hill contending for the gospel of grace and preaching that the man, the God man, will judge the world in righteousness.
Oh yeah, just to mention he resurrected from the dead. And so the Epicurean Stoic philosophers, they mocked him thinking, yeah, right. This is the type of pagan philosophy that is corrupting the hearts and minds of Corinthian believers.
And so Paul is trying to point out this is absurd Corinthian believers that you're starting to question these things. So if you look with me at verse 12, Dr. Frost referenced this, Paul is pointing out the absurdity of what the believers of Corinth are toying with.
Now, if Christ is proclaimed as raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection from the dead? But if there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised.
Paul is saying, Corinthian believers, you not only know that resurrection is possible, you know it's reality, right? Because you received King Jesus in faith, unless you believed in vain, and since you received his resurrection, that's a package deal for us as well.
And so he's just saying, you can't go back questioning the resurrection because that undoes the gospel, Jesus Christ and his resurrection and his promises towards us. And so in that passage, he even mentions the phrase twice, the dead.
And guess what? It's not referring to corporate body of Old Testament saints who have only died spiritually. Paul goes on to say in verse 23, but all of those who belong to Christ, all believers who are Jew, not Jew only that's spiritual in Hades, but all believers who are Jew, Gentile, all saints before 70 AD, and all saints after 70 AD, all that belong to Christ.
So how are we doing on time? I forgot to hit this. I forgot to hit the timer, and I thought, well, can't start now. But we got one more objection to deal with here. Objection number four comes in verse 54 in 1 Corinthians 15.
That's a quotation. Death is swallowed up in victory, and the full prayers would say, well, this is quoting from Isaiah and Hosea that's only talking about spiritual death, okay? Paul is basically repeating the truth that he said in verse 26, right?
The last enemy to be destroyed is death, and now he's saying death is going to be swallowed up. And the full preterist would say, well, you can't understand Paul's argument unless you're familiar with Hosea chapter 13 from which he's quoting from.
And so I want to test that theory a little bit. You're welcome to turn with me to Hosea 13. I want us to look a little bit more into this fuller quote. Hosea says in Hosea 13, 14, I shall ransom them from the power of Sheol.
I shall redeem them from death. Oh, death, where are your plagues? Oh, Sheol, where is your sting? Compassion is hidden from my eyes. The full preterist would say, okay, well, now since I got you over here in Hosea, you actually got to look at the opening two verses to understand the kind of spiritual death only that Paul is referring to.
So opening verses say, when Ephraim spoke, there was trembling. He was exalted in Israel, but he incurred guilt, pay attention, through Baal and died. And now they sin more and more. So the full preterist says, gotcha.
See, Israel died spiritually because they kept on physically living. They died spiritually and covenantally by sinning and worshiping Baal. Well, once again, we can spot the fallacy of trying to radically separate spiritual death.
And physical death, okay?
So we already have that in mind. They're wrong. By Israel worshiping Baal, this severed their fellowship with God and have died, meaning their destination is Sheol or Hades. And here's the key, unless they repent, they will not be redeemed and brought to life at the resurrection.
They will remain in death, ongoing alienation from God, where one day death in Hades will be thrown into the lake of fire, eternal death, eternal conscious punishment. Israel always understood this fundamental truth.
So I'm about to make a crossover from the prophet Hosea to the prophet Ezekiel. All of Israel understood, thinking about Adam from the beginning, the soul that sins shall die. Listen to this parallel.
Because the prophet understood that spiritual and physical death, that's the death. There's no radical separation. He says, the soul that sins shall die. If he who is violent, a shedder of blood, defiles his neighbor's wife, oppresses the poor and needy, commits robbery, lifts up his eyes to idols, commits abomination, he shall not live.
He has done all these abominations. He shall surely die. His blood shall be upon himself. So when you hear that phrase, he shall surely die, where does that sound familiar? Back in the garden, right? Back to what God said to Adam.
And so some of these types of sins are gonna result in capital punishment, immediate death. But many of these sins will result in the natural death of returning back to the dust of the earth. And here's where I'm wanting to get at.
At the end of Ezekiel 18, the prophet commands Israel to repent, okay? Repent and turn from all of your transgressors, lest iniquity be your ruin. Why will you die?
Okay?
Death, the death.
Why will you die? By not trusting in the promises of God. Repent. For I have no pleasure in the death of anyone declares the Lord, so turn and live. Once again, the prophet is saying to die in your sins without forgiveness is eternal separation from God with no hope.
The psalmist says this is your ultimate destination if you do not repent. The psalmist in Psalm 49, death shall be their shepherd. Their form shall be consumed in Sheol with no place to dwell. Repent Israel or this will be your ultimate destination.
No hope of salvation. No hope of resurrection. No hope of eternal life. Another prophet, the prophet Isaiah says the death is like a veil that touches all people, right? Paul told us the power of death works through sin.
But Isaiah promises us this from the stump of Jesse that Adonai who sits upon the throne high and lifted up, the Lord of hosts, the righteous one, he will swallow up the death forever. And the Lord God will wipe away tears from all their faces and the reproach of his people will be taken away from the earth.
Your dead shall live. Your bodies shall rise. You will dwell in the dust, awake and sing for joy. That is what the apostle Paul had in mind when he quotes Isaiah and Hosea. Repent and look to Jesus Christ in faith and at his coming, you will receive resurrected eternal life.
And so friend, I just want to encourage you that as certain as we are that Jesus resurrected from the dead, we can also be certain that we too in the future will be resurrected from the pains of sin and death.
But in Arkansas land, Jonesboro where I'm from, I've been accused, Jeremiah, you're being a little harsh. Okay, why can't we just agree to disagree and just talk about eschatology, right? Full preterists just see things a little bit differently than you.
They're not denying a resurrection of the dead. They just disagree a little bit on the timing. Well, if you had your hand up, look with me at the bottom because like Dr. Frost quoting Paul, Paul would say you fool, right?
For those people that are questioning the things that we've been talking about our blessed hope. Remember what R .C. Sproul would say? He would say, what's wrong with you people? He would not put up with it either.
And so neither shall we and neither did the apostle Paul when he warned Timothy to beware of these false teachers. He said, Timothy, but avoid irreverent babble. Think about this pagan philosophy, right?
Epicurean and stoic philosophers that mocked that the resurrection of the dead was even possible. Avoid irreverent babble for it will lead people into more and more ungodliness for their teaching. Their talk will spread like gangrene or cancer.
Remember Dr. Frost says there's only one way to deal with gangrene, you cut it off, right? To be severed. And then Paul says among these false teachers are Hymenaeus and Philetus and look who have swerved or gone astray from the truth, right?
This is meaning you're not in the body of Christ. If you get the timing in the next verse of the resurrection wrong, if you say it's already happened in the past when it has not, well, you've swerved from the truth.
You are no longer in the body of Christ. This is anathema language. Hymenaeus and Philetus, they are teaching, those are those who have swerved and gone astray from the truth, saying that the resurrection, right?
The resurrection that the Hebrew scripture is prophesied about. They are talking about the, okay, they're talking about the timing of the resurrection, right? And here, this passage, it's not talking about the nature of resurrection.
Paul did that in 1 Corinthians 15. It's a bodily, by the way, how do we know that? Well, Jesus is the first fruits.
And so this is what I want you to understand.
The timing of the resurrection is not up for debate in the sense that we can agree to disagree, okay? Full preterists want to say it's just a minor disagreement. And I'm saying, look, since I disagree with you on the timing, you should not be trying to be my brother.
Now, they're parasitic. They want to infiltrate the church. They have to say it. But we look at them and we're saying, wait, you're saying it already happened in our past. Now, that will cause people to swerve from the truth.
And this teaching is upsetting the faith of some, okay? I want you to see the gravity of what Paul is warning Timothy to beware of this gangrene. Because the timing of the resurrection is inextricably linked with the second coming.
Of Jesus Christ.
Paul in Romans 6 says that this is a part of the gospel itself. We know that Christ, when he raised from the dead, will never die again, because death no longer has dominion over him. And he says, for if we have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a resurrection like his.
It's a package deal.
Every generation of saints have waited with great anticipation of our blessed hope, right? These three points that are non-negotiable. I believe this frees us to live boldly, proclaiming the gospel of grace, telling people that you can look forward to Jesus returning.
And that's why Paul, I believe, ends in 1 Corinthians 15. He says, as beloved brothers, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that your service for the Lord, your labor is never in vain.
No matter what happens, Christ secures us through all circumstances to the end, because he is a perfect Savior who cannot fail. And Paul got excited writing 1 Corinthians, and he gave, in chapter one, a little bit of taste of what he is building up, of how God is all in all.
He says, as you await for the apocalypses, the revealing of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, he will sustain you to the end, the day, the last day of our Lord, because God is faithful, by whom you are called into the fellowship of his Son, Jesus Christ, our Lord.
Thank you so much.