IVF Worker Discovers the Dark Side of IVF

The Ethics of Embryo Destruction in IVF

Most IVF labs will take those and if they're growing abnormal or the cells aren't multiplying in a timely manner or you know how they should or some are or bigger and smaller and not uniform like they should be those would be the abnormal ones and so most labs don't freeze those they destroy those.

So does.

Your lab do the same? As far as I know they freeze them as long as they look like they're still living and they haven't just stopped then they'll freeze all of them and they do grade them like it'll put in two and most of them only get one baby.

Once in a while we get twins, they'll both take. Most of the time we put two in and we just get one that takes but sometimes you'll put two in and one will divide and you'll get triplets. That doesn't happen very often but they can't.

That can happen but some of them usually if they're not a good grade they usually won't make it. Do you tell the mother say.

Hey this one is abnormal. Most likely this baby will either be a miscarriage or it will won't survive or it will have an abnormality like like what we had talked about. Abnormalities could be anywhere from slowness, missing maybe health issues or or Down syndrome or something like that.

Do the mothers say.

IVF as an Abortion Clinic

That's okay I still want that baby to be implanted? But they are but they are.

Children at conception so there is their decision. So now what we've turned that into is do you want the baby or not. If you don't we'll you know destroy or kill the baby. So in effect that IVF becomes an abortion clinic in that case and he.

Makes the people sign and he doesn't do anything unless they ask for it. So it's.

Their choice my my body my choice my human being my choice my property my choice. That's the problem you know. If you if you do that then you're you've.

Become an abortion clinic. In my way it's bringing spirits and people into this world that wouldn't have made it another way. Well you're not bringing them in.

Though God is so so you're all you're doing is is manually injecting the sperm in the egg so now there's conception and fertilization in the dish. You aren't creating or anything you're just bringing two already put things together and God's creating them so you're not doing it but if you are doing it but but what you are doing and not just you but I'll just say IVF so I'm not pointing a you but if IVF clinics are doing this they are the ones killing so God is making them but the IVF clinics are killing them right so that's where we have a really big problem.

The Problem of Killing Some for the Sake of Others

I know well so here's here's um here is kind of an overview of it right so it's kind of the same thing I I would say Planned Parenthood don't kill your children right IVF clinics don't kill your children so don't make 30 of them knowing that 90 of them are gonna die or intentionally or unintentionally don't do that but ethical isn't killing just a few or as little as possible it's it's not killing any.

The problem with.

These girls some of them they have PCOS they come in they have 30 eggs and they've given all these hormones that will release those eggs all out and if they don't get them all and they go and have intercourse they could get them all.

Right. They could.

Get them all but not fertilize them in the dish. Right. So they yeah so that that's what I'm saying. There is an option of that. There's a different option and you could actually for you could actually freeze the egg not being fertilized.

Right. If you have. If a doctor says look I can get I can almost guarantee that you're gonna have a baby but at this point where they're two weeks old we're gonna have to put them down. They can be asleep.

They won't know what's going on but we're gonna have to kill two ten of nine of them in order for you to have one. They're gonna say well I I'm not gonna kill my two-week old but at conception it's a baby the same under this state the same as at conception as they are 18 16 or two weeks.

Then you're doing the same thing under God under science under everything and under that lab. If they're killing them at five days old or five days in an embryo stage they're still considered and are the same as a two-week old so they are doing that.

But I'm talking about the problem is freezing them to get to the point of.

Freezing them is the problem or not or they die or they continue with the possible or or not survive the thought. Exactly. Well I don't I think they were I.

Think the embryos weren't as healthy as the other but the baby's just as great as any baby. Right. So we shouldn't we shouldn't create babies knowing that some of them will be bad or some of them won't make it.

You don't make. Oh yeah. You do. You do. Well you know because you know the percentage of what's happened through history how long we've been doing this and we know and and they even say it they say it's it can't be helped.

There's going to be 90 or more that aren't going to make it knowing that 90 are going to serve aren't going to survive and we have collect 30 20 even one. You're putting them in danger if you're going to freeze them or throw them away if they are there abnormal.

So that's the part the very beginning of it is what I'm talking about not the I mean the freezing and all of that is also a part of it. But having the babies having those children are or I want everybody to experience having kids.

I mean having kids and that's why this is such an emotional and hard topic is because we're talking about infertility. We're talking about starting a family. We're talking about people that have exhausted every option and this is like all they have left and they've and they're they're distraught about it.

This is this is like the the the last most expensive option. And now they're they're being told you can have a child. They're not being told that you're going to kill.

90 of your kids. For me I see these women who want a baby so bad and and they get to have one. Yeah and they get to bring the child in their life and they have multiple frozen they come back and they handle have a family they have three or four kids now and that's their dream and they got them here at house.

Would they get here. Right. It's it's that's right. That's the that's the part that that that is brought as like this is so wonderful. Well nobody's talking about the ones that die. I'm trying to keep it as like let's talk about the most ethical way.

I'm not talking about let's kill babies for eye color let's kill babies for gender let's kill babies because of whatever reasons. We just we're gonna we're you know this is like the most ethical way we're talking about IVF.

And so if we're talking about the most ethical way of IVF we've already discussed the 75 or more from your lab that doesn't survive and that's through human interaction and human process voluntary involuntary.

So that's the that's the part that we were talking about at the state convention and and with others anyway. That's that's the part I really would like to know more from your doctor. I doubt that he'll talk to me Woody.

I would love to talk to him about it and not not in a mean way. I'm not trying to be mean to people and that's that's the. The hard part is because people might think well you just.

Don't want that. Sure. Yeah. Well that's a part of it right. We. Good now we have it.

So we need to we have a lot right. So that's another thing is I'm gonna I'm gonna send you my contact.