February 12, 2021 Show with Dr. Jason M. Garwood on “Health for All of Life: A Medical Manifesto of Hope & Healing for the Nations” (Part 2)

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We have returning to the program, Dr. Jason M. Garwood, who is teaching pastor at

Cross and Crown Church in Northern Virginia.

And he's a writer, activist, and professor at Cross and Crown Seminary.

And we are going to be addressing today part two of a discussion on his book, Health for All of

Life, a medical manifesto of hope and healing for the nations.

And it's my honor and privilege, first of all, to welcome you back for the second time, Dr. Jason M. Garwood.

Thank you, Chris.

Happy to be here with you.

And we have joining us for the very first time on the program, as my co -host today, Bill

Evans, he's the creator of healthforalloflife .com.

He is also the founder of Kingdom Driven LLC.

And he is known as the truck driver theologian.

And I know actually, believe it or not, I know several truck driver theologians, men who are

involved in secular labors, but have brilliant theological

minds and are very biblically literate, and are very capable of writing books on

their own, actually.

And I know of one that is actually working on a book right now on eschatology.

In fact, eschatology that I think my guests would agree with today, because he's a post millennialist.

But it's my honor and privilege to welcome for the very first time ever, to Onion Shop and Zion Radio

serving as my co -host today, Bill Evans.

It's great to have you on the show today, Bill.

Well, before we go into a discussion on the book, if you could, especially for the sake of our listeners, Dr. Garwood,

who have not heard you before, tell our listeners about Crossing Crown Church in Northern Virginia.

Sure,

crossing

the size,

attractive,

hope -serving

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And Bill Evans, since you are a first -time guest on the program,

actually, you'll be our co -host today, featuring this book that you are heavily

involved in creating, or basically the brainchild behind

it for Dr. Garwood to create.

But tell our listeners something about your background, if you could, in a

summary fashion.

Tell our listeners something about your salvation testimony, what kind of religious

atmosphere you were raised in, and what kind of providential circumstances

our Lord raised up in your life that drew you to himself and saved you.

Since both you and I are going to be spending the majority of the program asking Dr.

Garwood questions, since he did write the book, I do want to ask the

first question of you to start with anyway, and Dr. Garwood can chime in also.

But Bill, I understand that this book was a work of providence, so tell our listeners how.

Well,

and

Jason,

do

you

have

anything

to

add

to

that,.

As far as the providential circumstances behind the writing of this book?

He tells the story.

I'd like to expand on these concepts.

I had preached a sermon on vaccines,

and tried to get my friend to earn

a salary, tuck myself away, really study this, learn from it, and write this.

And then, yeah, it was only within a few hours that Bill had sent me that message.

Well,

you know,

there

are people who,

from time to time on my program,.

Or should I say in the audience of my program, will say you should be

sticking more to gospel issues, Chris.

The side issues may be fascinating.

There are enough people out there doing side issues outside of the gospel.

And who knows, there might even be some saying, why is Chris talking about health and nutrition and all that on his show?

We like it when he's discussing theology.

So, Dr. Garwood, why is health a gospel issue?

Yeah, well, Bill referred to this early

on, Van

Til's influence

in his

image,

he created with him in holiness and righteousness.

Of course, we know sin entered into the world and corrupted that.

And so, fundamentally, the gospel is men, women, and children

needing to find hope and healing, and

become

spirit and the material.

We are Christians who believe that God created us to

determine what makes a person.

We are rational creatures, yes, but we are not to be rationalists.

We aren't just minds that think, which

wants to bring healing to the nation today.

I don't know how else to read Isaiah 6.

So that's why it's ultimately a gospel issue, because as Christ died, he purchased the nations with his blood.

He ascended and asked the Father for the nations.

I spend more in the first chapter explaining

that when we die

on earth now, so that we might be, and so that he might put

his enemies under.

And by

the way, Bill,

for

some

reason,.

You were a lot more distant the last time you spoke.

So I don't know what changed, but try to make sure that your volume is turned up or

your face is closer to your phone or however you're doing that.

Just so we make sure that it's clearly heard by everybody.

And also remember, since I can't see you, I can't see you waving your hand or any facial

expressions, when you see a lull in the conversation, just chime in like you just did

and answer any question you feel like answering or ask any question as well.

Would you say, since all three of us are Reformed, we might be different persuasions

of Reformed theology, but would you say that perhaps we who are Reformed are typically

among the most guilty about neglecting health as any kind of a gospel issue?

...teaching doctrine, and

at the

end

of Romans 11,

and at the end, he just sort of blurts out,

to God be glory forever.

Amen.

You know, from him and to him and through him are all things.

And so I think there has to be a balance of both.

And when we really overate other

things, like how we feel and our emotions,

hanging out in this decrepit body, and someday we'll get a new body.

Well, that's true.

We believe in resurrection.

But in the here and now, when you're sick, you're out of the fight.

Christ is risen.

He's undoing Adam's sin.

He's World Camp,

maybe.

I don't know that they're the most guilty.

In the Reformed church area,

languages, ethnology, and homiletics,

and

so

we

may

prefer

life

based

on...

Dr. Garwood, the book itself is uniquely laid out.

Why don't you tell us how it's laid out and why this is the case?

And then, of course, Ephesians is a lot laid out like that.

And then you have imperative, these commands, in light of this, how do you live?

And so as Bill and I were talking through this and trying to really come up with a game plan

to...

How do we take the website, the website that has a ton of great information from a lot of wonderful

doctors and naturopathic physicians and so on?

How do we take that stuff and we put it into a book form?

Like you said, what there happens...

And you're trying to...

Explanation of the landscape.

Mentioned it a second

ago, this building, a multi -million dollar

building.

And some people might be thinking, wow, this is not evidence, not

evidence at all.

We see the effects of sin, even if they're hidden behind.

What is going

on in the

medical forms now,

especially Instagram account?

Yeah, it's interesting to see an ally coming from the left of many conservatives who

are rallying together with concern over vaccines and other things.

Yeah, yeah, it is.

There's quite a lot of...

We want somebody to hear the gospel.

They want it.

We want them to know who Jesus is and why it matters.

He's a gospel.

And we have to go to our first break right now.

I think Bill was beginning to speak, but if you could hold your thought, Bill, and don't forget what you were going to say, because we'll take you when we come back from

the break.

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And we have now returned to our discussion today, our interview with Dr. Jason

M. Garwood, who is teaching pastor at Cross and Crown Church in Northern Virginia.

And he is a writer, activist, and professor at Cross and Crown Seminary.

We are discussing part two of a discussion we began back in January on Health

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This is a new book by Dr. Garwood, and it actually came into existence

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Are you there, Bill?

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Can you hear me?

Now I can.

Normal

life and fever,

dingy

fever.

Praise

God.

Well, Bill was mentioning some of this before the break, but Dr. Garwood,

what should the Christian attitude be towards the medical establishment today?

Obviously, it's not a monolith.

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that they're in.

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by the number of men and women who are licensed physicians

murdering children in the womb.

And we could go on and on and on.

But obviously, there's good and bad involved.

But what should the Christian attitude be?

Yeah, that's true.

There is good and bad.

But I know when you go for

nutrition, they tell you

these are the vaccines you're supposed to take.

I think there's just a lot of good, certainly.

But I think there's a lot of bad.

And I think a lot of it stems from Paul Seitz in the book,

came out, and it

really went

on America and really

John Hopkins into

the health industry.

And now today, we have you sit at home and maybe you watch a commercial and take this if you're feeling this way.

But just a reminder that if you take this drug, your

eyeballs

might pop in, you can make money and a ton of money.

And so I think there's just a ton of skepticism we should have, especially with regard to the government

response.

One thing we try to do in the

book in

chlorine dioxide

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Looking at medical mistakes of dollars of medical mistakes that happen.

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Disturbing and frightening actually.

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And you've got to raise your voice again, Bill.

I don't know if you can hear me.

Yeah, now I can hear you.

Can you hear me?

Now I can.

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Dr. Garwood, if you could inform us about something that

is news to me, new to me, I should say, what is the health triad

about?

Ah, interesting.

Yes, well,

that's

pairing

those that will neutrify nutrition,

meaning the mighty, the mighty 90,

the minerals, 16 vitamins, 12 essential amino acids,

food and water, in your water floor,

and this is

a connection with

cellular metabolism, your liver, your

kidney, sweating, sweating is key, breathing, that's why I said trouble with math,

breathing is a hugely important detoxification, of course, you need

a healthy immune system, and you're not clogged up, it's like,

and then the third

into mortifying,

you put sin to death, wherever

healthy nervous

system,

cooling of

the trinity,

he helping

him, and that's actually the,.

You mentioned this when you were talking about the health triad, Dr. Garwood, but

tell us a bit more about the importance of proper nutrition to feeding on Christ,

detoxing to mortifying the flesh and energizing one's life to the work of the Holy Spirit,

if we are going to be successful in our

efforts, and we're going to be persevering in our efforts, if we are going to be

joyful in our efforts and our labors in the kingdom of God, we should not be

plagued unnecessarily, obviously, there's always going to be sickness in a sin -cursed world, no matter how

often people exercise and eat correctly, I know a young man who is an athlete,

who ate properly and was never out of shape in his entire life, who died of a heart

attack in his early 30s, not long ago, but it's the same time,

we should be taking care of the vessels that God has given us so that we serve Him

more diligently and persevere in doing so.

If you could just give us a few more points on that.

Sure, sure.

Yeah, I think what Bill mentioned with the three -legged stool is important because it

can feed

on Christ,

convict us of sin, same issue here,

other things are compatible,

we dumb down the doctrine.

I think

today

we know and we believe

he's the one there, that's an appointment,

God and

what God

does,

at the end of the day, what's going

to be

tying it back to that.

We have to make sure we're in balance with, it's not just eating right

or

it's

not

just

supplies

every

day

and if you don't have...

All right, I want to read...

Am I getting it?

Go ahead, go ahead, Jason.

I was just going to add something really quickly, Chris, to Bill's point with regard to the trillions of cells that

your body is cycling through.

The human body itself is actually more of an issue of physics, so we're more of an

electrical cycle.

When in fact, that doesn't, that's not going to help your...

One of the commendations for this book because it's someone I have admired for many

years, in fact, I've interviewed him on this program a number of times and he always proves to be a

superb guest.

His name is Pastor George Grant of Parish Presbyterian Church in Franklin, Tennessee

and he says of this book, the scriptures repeatedly exhort us to exercise stewardship

over every aspect of our lives, not the least of which includes our physical health.

Our bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit after all.

We are not our own.

We have been brought up with a price.

In this helpful volume, you will find a compendium of

prudent and practical counsel to the end that you and I might take appropriate

steps toward an exercise of that essential stewardship.

Read, think, pray, live.

That was Pastor George Grant and you do have some excellent

commendations.

Several of the folks that have written commendations have actually been guests on this program and that

would even include Martin Selbretty who wrote the foreword.

Many of our listeners might recognize that name since he contributes to the Chalcedon Report

magazine but tell us about why is this important that

you do have people of a variety of backgrounds who have written wonderful endorsements

including a physician, at least one.

Yeah, actually a couple

on the cover of the book which

are assemblies that are trying

to push this idea of a comprehensive view of the...

I think the endorsements help reflect that idea that not only can pastors or doctors kind of

come together and say, hey, this is an important work

and

they provide suffering from the

weight of the...

I wanted to... and with

Bill's

perspective

on that regard too.

...meant to me was is that he looks at the back and

he said he'd been praying

very happy with

confidential opportunities...

...cannot help being...

Well, this is something that's probably going to be on the mind of a lot of people listening.

Your average person who wants tips on

fighting the flu the common cold, even COVID, obviously.

How do we boost our immune system and help fight off some of these things and other things that you may

come up with that I haven't thought of?

In the back of the book, we

have

control.

One of them is Dr. John Bergman and he actually says somewhat tongue -in -cheek that you don't actually catch a cold,

you earn a cold.

The idea of, oh, yes, yes, yes.

So many people,

they

don't

really have

any system,

system, yeah, the immoral system

to function properly so

that

it isn't

again.

Well, why is it flu season?

Well, in a lot of cases, more stress

is going to give you

the sun isn't out as much

and you need to make sure that my cells are

vitamin C, vitamin D, vitamin A,

zinc, all of these things we lay out.

...teaching elder and who is the one who can,

once I created it, I turned it over to him.

Your mention of elderberries transported my mind back to when

I was a teenager and I saw Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

When one of the knights was mocking somebody and said, your father smells of elderberries.

Yes.

Do elderberries smell bad?

What's the story with that?

They can, they can.

My wife will make it so you can buy them online and have

them shipped to them

with

Moringa

and

by other

people who

have bones,

tremendously effective, bringing healing.

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And we have the question right here, and I have to enlarge it because it's microscopic.

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And Pastor Runyon's first question is, would you comment on the idea at which I

heard from my local general physician years ago, that 80 of the ailments he saw

were either things that the body would heal on its own, or they were the result of mental

and emotional stress?

Yeah, probably the only comment I have is I don't

know ailments that can be used

in their synovial mission.

It may be something you had done.

And

the

media,

and it's gotten people beside themselves, make them

more susceptible.

Okay, Pastor Runyon's, excuse me, I've got a tickle on my throat.

Pastor Runyon's second question, I'm sure is going to stir up some controversy.

But he says, Deuteronomy 28 displays a pretty strong connection between

faithfulness to God and physical health under the old covenant.

Has that connection disappeared under the new covenant?

Yeah, interesting questions from Gordon.

I definitely talk about that in the book, in the second chapter,

I think somewhere in there.

And one of those is inflammation and fever and sickness.

And Jeremiah himself speaks,

we are

not alchemy,

just the things that are made in a lab and not, well, thank

goodness,

and all these diseases and the things that are taking, well, Lord, maybe we're,

maybe we should stop butchering children in the womb.

Maybe we need

covenant.

Well, thank you, Pastor Gordon Runyon.

And I hope to have you back on the show sometime in the near future.

We have Beebe in Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, who says, I was wondering if you could

separate fact from fiction regarding some things that we have heard

since we are children.

And I'm assuming that the vast majority of people have heard these things, such

as chicken soup is the best thing to have when you're suffering from a cold or flu.

And also the old adage, starve, feed a cold and

starve a fever.

Or is it the reverse?

I never seem to remember.

Well, there definitely is.

We talked about it in the system.

If I may, a brief antidote that you know and love.

Very quickly, Dr. Garwood, what do you hope this book will do for the future of Christendom?

It is the medical establishment today to stay on them and

keep people.

The medical establishment that really doesn't know how to cure you and just wants to continue to make

a dime off of you.

And so I'm hoping

that take it back.

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I want to thank both Dr. Garwood and Bill Evans for being on the program today.

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And I want you all to always remember for the rest of your lives that Jesus Christ is a far greater savior

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