Wednesday Night Bible Study - John 19

John 19 and the Historical Reality of Jesus’ Crucifixion

Now for those of you Unfamiliar with this this is actually hey, there's Rebecca all my friends are here. This is actually we're in John 19. Hold on. Let me say Venice. Venice, are you from Freeport baby?

Have I met you before? We're in John chapter 19, this is actually a continuation of a seven-year Verse-by-verse commentary. I shouldn't say verse-by-verse because that's not entirely true. I would say chapter by chapter.

Except when we got into I think was it Psalms. I was losing my mind. But yeah, it's it's a seven-year thing that we've written out. A commentary and for the last seven years and we're in the gospel John we start to know.

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Hold on. Let me think. All right, so We're all the way up in John chapter 19. John chapter 19. It's kind of a heinous chapter to be honest with you. It's funny when I read other Historical accounts about this time.

It's funny how Pliny and some of the other Roman historians they talk about Crucifixion and Almost as a matter of a fact. But even they who were in the midst of it. And by the way, the Romans did not invent Crucifixion and been around for a long time and it took very various forms the Romans did.

Like Henry Ford learn how to mass-produce it. But you know it was. It was interesting that even the people who were associated with it on such a industrial level if you will. Hey, Kimmy. Hey, Mark. Hey Tamra.

How are you? Hey Carlene? Hey verbal. It's amazing how they even thought how barbaric it was in fact one of the Was it tachydus or plan. I can't remember which one of them but they actually mentioned the followers of Christus.

And of course the Latin form of Christ but They were talking about how one of their pro councils that executed Jesus. I always find it amazing that people think that Jesus and the history is only found in Scripture.

That's that's not an accurate statement. No true historian who is Intellectually honest will doubt the validity of a man named Jesus. Remember Christ is not his name. That was his title. It's not Jesus like mr. Christ.

It's Jesus the Christ, which is the Greek form of Messiah or the anointed one, but anyways It's it's a heinous thing. It really is. Hey Jonathan. So hey, there's Hannah. Hey Hannah. So I'm gonna just go through this chapter 19.

I don't know how far we'll get tonight, but I'm just gonna go until I get tired. Y 'all get bored or I run out of battery power. So anyways, so John chapter 19 It says this then Pilate took Jesus and had him flogged the soldiers also twisted together a crown of thorns put it on his head and threw a purple robe around him and They repeatedly came up to him and said hail king of the Jews and were slapping him in the face.

Pilate went outside again and said to them look I'm bringing him outside to you to let you know I found no grounds for Charging him. All right. So let me explain something to you Night before Jesus is in the Garden of Gethsemane.

He's arrested and between about 2 a .m. And once again that that's subjective. We don't have a definitive thing but about from about 2 a .m. To about 10 o 'clock in the morning. Jesus has six trials and Only four of them were legal.

But the first one, of course, he went to Ananias who was the political Boss crump for you Memphis folks. He was the boss crump of Jerusalem even though his son-in-law Caiaphas was the high priest and Ananias really held all the power and there was definitely nepotism there with Caiaphas getting the high priest position.

But Jewish law claimed that you couldn't arrest anyone at night and as soon as you brought him to trial you had to have At the minimum two eyewitnesses to their crime for them to even be brought into trial.

Well, of course that didn't happen. Because this was a political move and we can tell from the last chapter that the fate of Christ was already sealed. I mean it was the decision had already been made.

They were going to kill this guy and It's funny because Caiaphas actually said isn't it better for one man to die than the people suffered now understand this. There are many sectarian groups in Jerusalem.

It's just like any Metropolitan city or area you have political factions. You have religious factions. You have all these different groups going on and Not everyone wanted to kill Jesus because he they thought he was blasphemous.

In fact, that was the the least thing they were really worried about. What the Jewish leaders were really worried about is two things number one they were worried about losing influence over their own people because they had seen the throngs of people that had Surrounded Christ and were listening to his teaching and they were very concerned.

They were gonna lose their own influence. Once again, it's human nature. Number two the other thing the Jews Both said what united all of them against Jesus or most of them I should say was the fact that they were concerned About a riot happening because you got to remember no one was really looking for Jesus to be hey Lisa no one was really looking for Jesus to be the Savior of the world.

Okay, what they were all excited about was the potential of restoring the Davidic Kingdom of restoring Even you go back only 160 years the Maccabean revolt and the pseudo independence that the Jews had had Under the old Alexander the Great regime to say includes.

So what they what they thought was going to happen is that this big group of Jewish people were going to follow around. Hey, Lisa, we're gonna follow Jesus and then those followers and Jesus we're going to revolt against the Roman government and so the Jews were like, hey, man, it's better for Jesus to die, even though we don't really have anything on him and Squelch this revolt before it starts because if it starts Rome's gonna come in here.

I mean you gotta remember Rome had a garrison. Here's the temple Mount right here. Here's the let's see. I don't know if I can do this backwards. But anyways, here's here's the temple Mount right here.

Here's the pool of Bethesda right here. Well, here was the fortress of Antonius right here. I mean right there for Tony it was right there and there was a Roman garrison Stationed right there. And so they knew hey Rina.

They knew that if the Jewish people there in Jerusalem Got froggy and they tried to throw out the Romans. It was going to be bad. It was going to be bad. And of course it wasn't but 40 years later that we know in 70 AD.

From 67 to 70 AD that the Jews did revolt they did revolt. Of course. This was after Jesus and it's ended to heaven and all that good stuff. But they did revolt in a course in 70 AD that revolt culminated in the destruction of Jerusalem.

Well, actually it went on a little bit longer than that. You have Masada and all that. But anyways. So anyways, it says here Pilate who was the pro-council? Oh, right. Wasn't that weren't they great brother Jeremiah brother hunter and brother Josiah were all they did a Roundtable discussion tonight for Wednesday night for the youth at 630.

I encourage you to go back and look at that. It was excellent. Oh, and by the way Saturday night our Q &A time is going to be on eschatology or millennial theology and remember guys There's a difference between doctrine and theology.

Okay, some of you grew up. It's steeped in great religious theology and there that's fine as long as it doesn't go against doctrine, but we're gonna be talking about what in times really are because you know I remember when President Barack Obama got elected all these little.

Like weirdo religious fruitcakes were running around saying he's the anti-christ. He's the anti-christ. It's just so stupid. And now everybody's saying well Trump's the anti-christ, this is the end time guys relax, okay.

Chill out. It'll be okay. It's he's not the anti-christ, even though he's a dork. Sometimes he's not the anti-christ. But anyways so Pilate was was the leader of that Roman and Pilate had already seen Jesus once and Basically Pilate said what's this guy done?

He's broken. No Roman law worthy of death. Y 'all take care of it your little religious stuff. This has nothing to do with the state. Okay Y 'all want to go over there and beat him up in your playground?

That's fine, but Rome is not gonna put this guy to death because he's done nothing wrong and That wasn't good enough for the Jews. They brought him back to Pilate and they were like, hey You got to do something man, because the people are about to revolt.

Well Pilate was just as scared as the Jewish leaders were scared because if there was a revolt in Judah Pilate was gonna lose his job and back then you didn't collect unemployment. You know a couple of guys named Vinnie and Guido.

You know took you up on a roof and you committed suicide by getting stabbed in the back 47 times a knife pick and throw yourself off the roof. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Right, so he didn't want it.

He didn't want all that stuff to happen either because Rome would fire him and he would be gone. So what Pilate did to try to appease the crowd is he scourged him now? I'm gonna go through. Hey Elena I'm gonna go through real quick and talk about scourging because it's definitely different than what You may think That there is flogging.

There is scourging. There is whipping. Okay, and those are three different words, but there's also three different connotations with them as well. Not up until a hundred and something years ago in the the navies of the world will all militaries.

But particularly the Navy's being whipped Was a common occurrence on most military ships. It was it was pretty brutal to be honest with you I mean it really was. But it compared nothing to the Roman understanding of scourging now what scourging is is this.

It was an art form. To the Romans who executed it, I mean it was just brutal in fact a lot of guys Died the debt scourging was usually a death penalty depending on who was on duty that day but basically it was Long strips of leather with lead weights tied to the end with pieces of bone and metal.

Sewn in all down throughout the strips and it was done one of two ways. You could just be laid across the back, you know with with force but there was another way in which was called the centurions block in which they would swing and the straps would actually wrap around to the front of the body and Some of them would grab that steel and those bones would grab flesh and then the centurion would set it like a fishhook.

And then pull back. And it was an art form. It really was. Hey Christy. It's brutal. I remember. What's the name of that movie the G? Oh the passion of the Christ? No. Yeah the passion of the Christ during that scene.

I think if someone started speaking Italian, I think I'd have jumped over a movie row and started knocking skulls. Of course, I felt the same way in Braveheart when the English guy killed, you know, mr. Bravehearts girlfriend there.

But anyways, it was brutal a lot of people. Well, there were some reports of actually people going insane from the beating because the pain was so immense now Roman crucifixion. You have to understand.

Began with a trial and during that trial you were beat up you were smacked around and whatever but from there you went to. If you were going to be crucified you were scourged and the idea was to go ahead and let that start the process of dehydration and blood loss and shock to speed up.

The death on the cross because remember crucifixion back then the the poles were already in the ground. Okay, what you carried? Most the time what you carried was just the cross beam and then you know, you were nailed to it tied to it and then that was Hoisted up and the cross wasn't 30 feet up in the air like you see and a lot of pictures I mean it was definitely above hand level, but you know, I mean their feet weren't three or four feet off the ground.

But they were fixed up there and that was basically for exposure both physically and for humiliation. So anyways, they scourged Jesus and then they put a crown of thorns upon his head. And then they put a purple robe around him.

Now purple has long been associated, but it started in This this area this purple signifies royalty. It's because that the dye used to make purple garments was so expensive. It was a type of shellfish.

That had to be cooked down and then crushed up and and the dye was extracted from then so it was it was an expensive fabric was like wearing a you know back in my day if little preppy boys wore the little Alligators and guys on horses and stuff like that, you know on their shirts kind of the same thing with purple.

So they bring Jesus out and they say this hail king of the Jews now once you understand. They mocked Jesus as a Messiah they mocked Jesus as king but in this sentence as well. They're also mocking the Jews.

Okay, when they say king of the Jews, you got to understand what the Romans. They had conquered the known world. They had absolutely conquered that. Hey Dennis and Robin. They had conquered the known world and so to sit there and say there was a king of the Jews was a little Sarcasm from the Romans part because you know, this is their king y 'all think y 'all are tough now.

Y 'all got a king. Well, let me show you what Roman power does to King? So they were mocking and slapping him and then in verse 4 It says that Pilate went and outside again and said to them look I'm bringing him outside to you to let you know.

I found no grounds in charging him. Now, you know why Pilate brought Jesus back out? To let the people in the general courtyard see is because he was trying to incite pity. You see Pilate did not want to kill Jesus.

And there's many reasons why but the reality is he did not want to crucify Jesus. And so what he was trying to incite from this bloody pulp after this scourging what he was trying to incite was pity. From the crowd because he was scared of the political ramifications but he was also scared of the populace as well and So he was trying to bring this lump of bloody flesh out there and say hey.

You know, I've done this to him. Is that good enough? Now if you sit there And read verse 5 then Jesus came out wearing the crown of thorns and the purple robe. Pilate said to them here is the man. Okay, here he is guys.

When the chief priest and temple police saw him they shouted crucify crucify. Now Pilate responded take him and crucify him yourselves for I find no grounds on charging him. Six different times both here and in Luke.

We have different accounts of Pilate coming out and saying now remember he is the chief magistrate the chief legal Judge if you will of this area the authority was under him given to him by Rome and six different times.

He tells the people he tells the Sadducees the Pharisees the temple peoples. He was sitting there telling them guys. This guy is not guilty of any crime. He he hadn't done nothing. Yeah, y 'all y 'all have your little code little religious code.

He hadn't done nothing worthy of a state execution. There's no capital crime. Y 'all are upset and inherited. I mean pilot knew pilot knew what was going on. They knew that he had been suckered in by the Pharisees and He wasn't a victim because he had the military power.

He was just he wasn't scared of the Jews in the courtyard. He wasn't scared of the Romans. He was scared of Rome. That's who he was scared of. He wasn't scared of the Pharisees. He was scared of Rome of losing his job.

Now, let me stop right here and say this. Have y 'all ever heard people refer to Jewish people as Jesus killers. I have that is probably one of the most intellectually vacant and Absolutely irresponsible and historically inaccurate thing you can say.

Okay now To understand this we have to we have to think just for a second and I want you and I know and I do this. Every time I preach about this, I know I'm gonna about to blow some of y 'all's brains.

Okay, and I know you're gonna freak out and send me emails a pastor. You're smoking crack. You don't know what you're talking about. But just stop and let's think for a second who killed Jesus who is Responsible for killing Jesus.

Now some people say it was the Jews. Some people say it's Romans. Other people sit there and say what was all of us because all of our sin killed Jesus. And and that is true. Okay. Who can kill God? Okay.

People understand this nobody took Jesus's life. Nobody. You're not gonna win that fight once again, there's this childish immature religious overtoned idea. That somehow Satan and God are fighting and good and evil.

Their little swords are flashing and you know, Satan has this sort of fire and God has dude stop smoking crack. Okay, for real and stop reading, you know, come out of your mama's basement and stop playing Dungeons and Dragons.

Okay, listen to me for a second. Nobody fights God. Okay, nobody fights God. He's God. Okay, no one's gonna kill God. He is sovereign. There's no exercise. There's no physical exertion that he has to make his will just his will.

I'm not even talking about his word. I'm not even talking about his actions. His will is sovereign. Okay so the idea that mankind took God and killed God against God's will is Absolutely a falsehood of Scripture.

Jesus said on more than one occasion. No one takes my life from me. I freely lay it down. You go back in Isaiah chapter 53 when it's talking about the sufferings of Christ. By the way, 700 years for it happened when it's talking about the sufferings of Christ.

It actually says it pleased God to crush the life out of Christ. It pleased God to crush Jesus. The only thing that would have killed Jesus is Jesus. Okay, he laid his life down. Nobody snatched it from him.

So when everybody's yelling crucify him crucify him. Jesus is like That's the plan. That's why he didn't have to talk that the will of God was already being played out now. Having said that I want you to understand something.

Okay, he did that for me and you. He laid down his life when he yelled out my God my God. Why have you forsaken me. God forsook him so he wouldn't have to forsake me. It's called vicarious atonement the rising of Christ is poured out on our lives because the Sin of my life was indebted or accredited to or imputed to Christ on that cross so Just something to be thinking about.

Okay, just something to be thinking about. Put away your talisman and your dreamcatchers and your wolf picture on the black velvet thing and all the other Superstition little things that you have. Okay, nobody killed Jesus.

Jesus let now is by their wicked hands by their wicked hands. I mean there is a copability to be sure but that copability long existed before Calvary it happened. Oh Right at the Garden of Gethsemane.

That's when man became sinful. So anyways It says here Take him and crucify him yourself in verse 7 now here. They try propitiation. There you go, my brother in verse 7. It says this now so they're saying crucify him pilots like why he hadn't done nothing in verse 7.

They're kind of having their their their law and order right here. They're sitting there going. We have a law the Jews replied to him and according to that law He must die because he has made himself The son of God for three and a half years not to watch this for three and a half years.

Jesus hadn't made it a secret. Okay, he hadn't made it a secret. All right. When pilot heard this statement he was more afraid than ever remember. Fear is a really poor source for making decisions. He was more afraid than ever in verse 9.

He went back into the headquarters and asked Jesus. Where are you from? Why do these people hate that's what he's trying to figure out but Jesus did not give him an answer. So now watch this verse 10.

So Pilate said to him You're not willing to know that I have the authority to release you and the authority to crucify you. Jesus sitting there and I mean he wasn't laughing but you know. Yeah, you little ant.

Yeah, you you have the authority to crucify me. Sure. Whatever make whatever gonna make you sleep good tonight, buddy. And then Jesus in verse 11 answers him now, here's a guy who's just been beaten Half to death literally and this guy's coming in and he's trying to find a way To cut Jesus some slack because he doesn't want this guilt on him and this is how Jesus answers, buddy.

You ain't got no authority over me at all. Man Jesus answered him if it hadn't been given to you from above. This is why the one who handed me over to you has the greater sin. So here's what Jesus is saying look bud.

You don't have any authority here. The only authority you think you have came from God. I know I have a great segment of my people. They're like pastor just Forget what Memphis and Tennessee and the federal government say let's go back to worshiping.

Well guys, I got some news for you. I had never quit. I didn't stop because remember the church it in a stupid building. That building can burn down. We're still here. Guys we can worship no matter where we are now, I'm ready for some fellowship definitely ready for that but.

The authority we have is the church has comes from the Holy Spirit inside of us making us one male female black white Publican Democrat all that garbage don't matter only two classes of people saved and unsaved anyways.

Pilate’s Fear, Political Pressure, and the Meaning of Jesus’ Silence

Verse 12 from the moment from that moment pilot made every effort to release him. But the Jew shouted if you release this man, you are not Caesars friend. So they're playing on his fears. They're sitting there going.

Yeah, well you release Jesus. Caesar will be hearing about this. You don't want him on your side. All right, you don't want him mad at you anyone makes himself a king opposes Caesar. So now they're playing into the politics game.

They want Jesus killed because he's taken away their influence. So what they're doing is now they're leveraging and you got to remember you have to understand Roman government back then was profound in worldwide at that time.

No more of us should say at that time, but at the reality is Caesar who sat on the throne was a totalitarian. There was a Roman Senate, but it was a Senate. In name only they didn't have the power Caesar Was the power so anyways Verse 13 when pilot heard these words, he brought Jesus outside.

He sat down on the judges bench. So now it's going to be official in a place called the stone pavement in Hebrew is called Gabbatha. It's where it was the preparation day for the Passover is about 6 in the morning.

Then he told the Jews here is your king, but they shouted take him away. Take him away crucify. Pilate said to them should I crucify your king? And this is what they said. We have no king but Caesar now.

Here's what's hilarious about these Jews they started a riot and a revolt one time because a Roman Legion marched through Jerusalem with a Picture an emblem of Caesar on their banners as they were walking, you know.

And the Jews went absolutely nuts because that was a graven image, you know, and they were like, uh. They violated and the holy ground of basically the same stuff you hear today, you know, everybody fights over land, but.

Yeah, like that's important. But anyways so They get a fight for this, but now they're being the biggest hypocrites in the world church. They're being the biggest hypocrites in the world because now they're using that same thing and they're saying we have no king except Caesar they're giving in and they're trying to expedite his death.

By now pledging allegiance to Caesar which was bad right, but anything to kill Jesus, so. So then because of them he handed him over to be crucified. Then they took we have a few more minutes and they took Jesus away carrying his own cross.

He went out to what is called the skull place in Hebrew. It's called Golgotha there. They crucified him and two others with him on either side with Jesus in the middle. Pilate also had a sign lettered and put on the cross and the inscription was Jesus the Nazarene King of the Jews.

All right. This was a common practice. This wasn't something special for Jesus. Usually the crimes of condemned people were written and hung on the cross so that as a warning. To the rest, but it's there was no Roman law.

There was no Roman law. He didn't say treason he didn't say leading a revolt. This was his kind of shot back across the bow where it kind of said this is Jesus. Neither is the king of the Jews. Many of the Jews read this sign.

Be because the place where Jesus was crucified was near the city and it was written in Hebrew Latin and Greek so the chief priests of the Jews said to Pilate don't write the king of the Jews. But Pilate answered back, you know what what I've written that's what it's gonna say verse 23 when the soldiers crucified Jesus.

They took his clothes divided them into four parts a part for each soldier. They took the tunic which was seamless woven in one piece from the top. So they said to one another let's not care it tear it.

But let's cast lots for it. See who gets they did fulfill the scripture. Said and courses Psalms 22 that great messianic Psalm. Psalm 22 they divided my clothes among themselves and they cast lots for my clothing and this is what the soldiers did.

So hey, Daryl Jennings, how you doing Baba? So anyways, so listen. They weren't dividing his some people get this wrong. They weren't dividing his clothes because they needed a new shirt to wear. Okay.

It's it's kind of like when Bonnie and Clyde were killed. Or anyone famous is killed. You had trophy hunters or mementos. What a little memento keepsakes. Whatever they were they were wanting a piece of this history.

Jesus was a very well-known Executed criminal within this area and and not just too long. They who would actually discuss this and John the Baptist in front of the Roman Senate in Rome a few years later, but anyways.

They were casting lots. Well, he had this woven tunic right and it didn't have any seams. It was literally woven in one piece and they didn't want to rip it up. So they said hey man, let's throw dice for it now.

Let me say this to some of you church folks out there and I'm only gonna mention this a short time. But I want to set you free from maybe some silliness for a second. This is one of the reasons I've heard church people not played Monopoly.

Because it has dice in it and it's like they would be the Roman soldiers. I Don't know what great links. You have to stretch that absurdity to to make that connection. But it's funny. Those are the same people that have a cross.

I Don't understand the difference. Guys playing Monopoly is not a sin, you know, take a break. Relax, chill out. Okay, I can find nowhere in Scripture that says do not play Monopoly or any other game with dice.

See, that's what I'm talking about. Religion walks in and tries to add to the Word of God as a sense of control. Remember guys the road to hell is paved in religion. It ain't guns and drugs that are Satan's greatest strategy.

It's religion, okay, it's just that stupid. All right so. Anyways, they cast lots for his clothes now verse 25 just a couple more and I'll be done. Standing by the cross of Jesus were his mother. His mother's sister Mary the wife of Clophas and Mary Magdalene now.

That's three chicks. I know it could read Differently but that's three different chicks. Okay. Now the thing about it is They're all named Mary. Okay, they're all named Mary. All right, and that gets it's kind of like Paul or John.

Or Titus or even Judas Jude Judas it gets confusing because remember back then. They used not last names. They used Jeff the son of Raymond or Gwen the daughter of Suzanne and that's how they told people apart or the region they were from if they were outside the Area, they would say Jesus of Nazareth or Jeff of Memphis.

So anyways When Jesus saw his mother and the disciple he loved standing there he said to his mother woman Here is your son then he said to disciple. Here is your mother now. The reason it says this is because John who's writing this is the disciple that it's talking about John's writing this and What what's really cool about John is is this what about Yahtzee?

Y 'all he's from Louisiana, so Anyways What's interesting about this is that John was the last of the original Twelve to live in fact John lived we think to about 104 or 106 AD. We believe he died in Ephesus.

Now if you go to Ephesus, which is in Turkey there is a small house there and It's it's tradition has told us that that is actually Mary's house when Jesus died and and and John was actually Exiled to the Isle of Patmos Mary John took Mary and was taken care of her just like Jesus asked her to and they moved to Ephesus and once he got released from Patmos John actually lived out his life there in Ephesus with Mary and well That's what we believe she died.

It's really interesting because some of the church early church writings talk about John. It's so awesome. They he was so old he was a hundred something years old, you know 101 102 103 something like that and They had to carry him around on this wooden pallet and of course, you know He was one of the original disciples.

So he was I mean he was it right? Judas is oh you're saying Judas Iscariot. Yes. Yeah. It's is something I can't spell either Darrell. Anyways, they would carry John around on this wooden Litter if you will and then they would set him down and they would worship and everything.

Well, sometimes people would Get in arguments and they'd come to John and they would say well John he said this and he who's right? And it says that John was so frail and old with age. He would lean up on his wooden pallet and kind of lean and roll over onto his elbow there and he'd say guys Can you just love each other and then he'd roll back over and go back to sleep.

In other words, even though he was physically bound still to this earth his heart and mind had already gone. And he was he was heaven-bound and he knew it and he didn't really care about whose casserole dish tasted better.

So anyways. So that's that and then verse 20 And I know I'm rushing through this but verse 28 after this when Jesus knew everything was now accomplished that the scripture might be Fulfilled he said I am thirsty a jar full of sour wine was sitting there.

So they fixed a sponge full of sour wine on hyssop and held it up to his mouth. And when Jesus received the sour wine, he said it is Finished then bowing his head. He gave up the spirit. It is finished.

Those are the three most beautiful words ever spoken because What it's really talking about Was all the way back in Genesis chapter 3 When God Sees Adam and Eve there and they've messed up and they've fallen in sin.

God didn't obliterate them. He banished them. He separated them from himself. But he still provided for him still made him clothes so they could cover. And then he says this one day. The seed of a woman will crush the head of Satan.

Oh He'll bruise. That seeds healed. But the seed of a woman will crush the head of Satan. You know, what's so cool about that? Let's just think about ninth grade biology. How much seed does a woman have?

Once again, we have some folks in Louisiana here. So I'm gonna help them out. Zero. They got eggs. Right man has the seed. What woman ever had? Seed a child without a male only one. That was Jesus. That perfected life could not have the corruption that's translated from Adam on down.

The imputed wrath and the nature of sin could not be in the physical body of Jesus so Jesus had no earthly father and that seed said finally after 33 some-odd years it is finished. But you see it was even before Genesis.

See God knew from the word go that we'd mess up and he provided away. You see it's so much more than a sermon or a little Bible study or a little Bible memory voice. Or whatever. It's more than just a stupid Baptist Church or some other religious.

It's not that There really is a creator of this world this universe. I've yet to have anyone explain to me a satisfactory answer that doesn't involve some sort of faith as. It's a said that I don't have enough faith to be an atheist, right?

The reality is that creator had a perfect plan. And that perfect plan all along knowing that man was going to fall man was going to falter man was going to fail. Because God had to give man a choice and knowing that man would choose wrong God had to come out with a plan.

Now no human mind could ever conceive that plan. It's just too Dynamic, it's way too intricate. I mean you think about a plan. Literally a plan that's been going on for 6 ,000 years. And on that day when Jesus said it is finished the plan of God for our redemption and reconciliation back to him.

Was finished. Now here's why that's so awesome. Religion is going to tell you you have to do this this and this. To be a Christian and sorry Baptist we have stupid things, too. You know I've heard Baptist say pray there's prayer, and you'll go to heaven.

Never saw anywhere in Scripture where a man prayed a prayer and went to heaven. Well you got to walk down this aisle you got to be baptized. You got to join the church here. You're offering envelopes.

You got to say Jesus. I just right you got to do this. You got to wear this. You got to talk like this. You got to look like this. Jesus said believe and you will be saved. See guys. We're still doing what the Jews tried to do back then see all humankind is the same no matter what it is.